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02/24/2025 01:30 PM Senate LABOR & COMMERCE

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+= SB 39 LOANS UNDER $25,000; PAYDAY LOANS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 39(L&C) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony <Time Limit May Be Set> --
*+ SB 24 TOBACCO/NICOTINE/E-CIG AGE; E-CIG TAX TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
            SB  39-LOANS UNDER $25,000; PAYDAY LOANS                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:32:06 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN announced  the consideration of SB  39 SENATE BILL                                                               
NO.  39 "An  Act relating  to loans  in an  amount of  $25,000 or                                                               
less; relating to the Nationwide  Multistate Licensing System and                                                               
Registry; relating  to deferred  deposit advances;  and providing                                                               
for an effective date."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BJORKMAN  announced that the committee  adopted Amendment 1                                                               
on  February  19,  2025.  SB  39,  as  amended,  was  before  the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:32:46 PM                                                                                                                    
RACHEL  LEVY,   Staff,  Senator  Forrest  Dunbar,   Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, provided  the sectional analysis for                                                               
SB 39 as follows:                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                       SECTIONAL ANALYSIS                                                                                     
            SB 39: LOANS UNDER $25,000; PAYDAY LOANS                                                                            
                           Version A                                                                                            
                           2.12.2025                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
      "An Act relating to loans in an amount of $25,000 or                                                                      
     less; relating to the Nationwide Multistate Licensing                                                                      
       System and Registry; relating to deferred deposit                                                                        
        advances; and providing for an effective date."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
       Section 1  Amends AS 06.01.020(a) to remove payday                                                                     
     lenders from the list of financial institutions exempt                                                                     
     from federal financing limitations.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
       Section 2  Amends AS 06.01.050(3) to remove payday                                                                     
     lenders from the definition of "financial institution"                                                                     
     under state law.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3  Adds new sections to AS 06.20.010:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
            (c) Expands the definition of a lender to close                                                                     
             loopholes and prevent businesses from evading                                                                      
             small loan regulations.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
            (d)  Clarifies  that  a loan  is  considered  to                                                                    
            originate in Alaska  if the borrower  resides in                                                                    
            the state  and completes  the transaction  while                                                                    
            physically present.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:33:35 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. LEVY continued the sectional analysis of SB 39.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4   Amends AS  06.20 to allow the Department of                                                                  
     Commerce,   Community  and   Economic  Development   to                                                                    
     utilize the Nationwide  Multistate Licensing System and                                                                    
     Registry,  manage the  registration process,  and adopt                                                                    
     regulations for implementation.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section   5      Amends  AS   06.20.030(a)  to   enable                                                                  
     applicants  to pay  investigation expenses  through the                                                                    
     registry.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section   6      Amends  AS   06.20.030(b)  to   enable                                                                  
     applicants  to  pay   licensing  expenses  through  the                                                                    
     registry.  Makes  a   licensing  change  that  requires                                                                    
     applicants to  pay $500 per branch,  website, or mobile                                                                    
     app location,  instead of a single  office license, and                                                                    
     $2000  for  a company  license  instead  of a  multiple                                                                    
     office license.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section 7    Repeals and  Reenacts AS 06.20.090  to (a)                                                                  
     require applicants to  submit separate applications for                                                                    
     each business location and (b)  allow the department to                                                                    
     set    application   requirements,    procedures,   and                                                                    
     licensing periods.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 8   Amends AS  06.20.170 to have the department                                                                  
     conduct period examinations as  needed instead of every                                                                    
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     Section  9     Amends  AS  06.20.230  to  simplify  the                                                                  
     previous tiered  interest rate structure for  (a) loans                                                                    
     under  $25,000 and  (b)  open-ended  loans, creating  a                                                                    
     uniform  rate of  3 percent  per  month. Adds  language                                                                    
     that  requires  interest  rate calculations  on  payday                                                                    
     loans  to  consider  only the  relevant  charged  fees,                                                                    
     costs, and premiums as  detailed in AS 06.20.260(a)(1)-                                                                    
     (5).                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:35:24 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. LEVY continued the sectional analysis of SB 39.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section  10    Amends  AS  06.20.310  to render  payday                                                                  
     loans with  interest rates greater  than 3  percent per                                                                    
     month invalid.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 11    Amends AS 06.20 to  add section 06.20.325                                                                  
     to   prohibit  payday   lenders  from   threatening  to                                                                    
     prosecute borrowers in the event of defaults.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section 12  - Amends AS 06.20.900  to define "registry"                                                                  
     as  the  Nationwide  Multistate  Licensing  System  and                                                                    
     Registry.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section  13    Amends  AS 08.76.500  to subject  payday                                                                  
     lenders  to   the  same   regulations  as   small  loan                                                                    
     companies.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section 14    Amends  AS 45.45.020 to  mandate interest                                                                  
     calculations include  all service  charges paid  by the                                                                    
     borrower   to    ensure   transparency    in   interest                                                                    
     calculations.  "Service  charge"  is  defined  as  fees                                                                    
     charged by the lender  but doesn't include fees related                                                                    
     to delinquency.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section  15 -  Repeals  AS 06.20.330  to eliminate  the                                                                  
     exemption that allows pawnbrokers  and loan shops where                                                                    
     separate and  individual loans do  not exceed  $750 and                                                                    
     $500  respectively to  charge interest  rates exceeding                                                                    
     the  maximum  rate  established by  AS  06.20.230,  and                                                                    
     repeals  regulations  applying  to lenders  which  have                                                                    
     operated under that exemption.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 16 - provides for  an effective date of July 1,                                                                  
     2025.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LEVY stated  that the  sponsor proposed  an amended  version                                                               
[Amendment 1,  adopted February  19, 2025] of  SB 39  that passed                                                               
through the  House Finance Committee  last session  and addresses                                                               
the concerns of financial institutions.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:37:47 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN opened public testimony on SB 39.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:38:41 PM                                                                                                                    
PATRICK  BRENNER, President,  Southwest Public  Policy Institute,                                                               
Rio Rancho, New  Mexico, testified in opposition to SB  39 and he                                                               
warned the committee that rate  caps like New Mexico's 36 percent                                                               
limit have  failed and SB  39 will do  the same in  Alaska. After                                                               
New Mexico's cap,  banks and credit unions didn't  fill the void,                                                               
causing  more   people  to  lose   credit  and  turn   to  costly                                                               
alternatives.  He  said  that  he tested  15  credit  unions  and                                                               
several  banks,   finding  86  percent  denied   loans  or  added                                                               
burdensome  conditions,  with only  one  approval  from a  credit                                                               
union  due to  prior  membership. This  system  doesn't help  the                                                               
unbanked or underbanked most affected  by such caps. Alaska needs                                                               
balanced  regulations  that  protect consumers  while  preserving                                                               
credit access and responsible lending.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:41:55 PM                                                                                                                    
EDWARD D'ALESSIO,  Executive Director, INFiN,  Financial Services                                                               
Alliance, Washington, D.C., testified in  opposition to SB 39 and                                                               
stated that SB 39 would  eliminate access to regulated short-term                                                               
small-dollar loans from licensed  Alaska lenders. These loans are                                                               
transparent,  legal, and  offer essential  liquidity with  strong                                                               
consumer  protections like  $500 loan  limits, renewal  caps, and                                                               
extended   payment  plans.   He   said   borrowers  report   high                                                               
satisfaction  and  few complaints  under  current  laws. SB  39's                                                               
arbitrary rate cap would force  lenders to exit, removing a vital                                                               
credit  option.  Similar  laws  in other  states  led  to  lender                                                               
shutdowns, with banks and credit  unions failing to fill the gap,                                                               
leaving borrowers to risky, unregulated alternatives.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:44:27 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MERRICK  asked  how  many   of  the  INFiN  members  are                                                               
physically located in Alaska.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:44:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  D'ALESSIO  answered  that the  INFiN  members  operating  in                                                               
Alaska are operating online.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:44:58 PM                                                                                                                    
CORT  WALKER,  Vice  President, Product  and  Risk,  Check  City,                                                               
Provo, Utah,  testified in opposition to  SB 39 and stated  SB 39                                                               
claims to lower costs but  would effectively ban short-term loans                                                               
in  Alaska.  History  shows  bans  don't  work  because  licensed                                                               
lenders  leave,  and  unregulated  offshore  lenders  take  over,                                                               
creating  more  risk.  He  said  Check  City  loans  are  already                                                               
regulated, capped  at $500, short-term,  and based on  ability to                                                               
repay.  If borrowers  default,  they take  the  loss, so  they're                                                               
motivated  to  help  borrowers  succeed. He  said  in  2024,  the                                                               
Consumer  Financial Protection  Bureau (CFPB)  received just  one                                                               
complaint about an Alaska licensed  lender. This shows the system                                                               
works.  He said  Alaska's laws  have been  effective for  20 plus                                                               
years.  He  stated that  SB  39  wasn't  data driven  and  didn't                                                               
include  all  stakeholders.  He  said  reform  should  strengthen                                                               
protections without eliminating access.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:48:24 PM                                                                                                                    
ERIN  DAY, Economic  Justice  Organizer,  Alaska Public  Interest                                                               
Research Group, Anchorage, Alaska, testified  in support of SB 39                                                               
and stated  that she  helped lead  House Bill  145 to  cap payday                                                               
loan  rates in  Alaska at  36 percent,  calling it  a fair  limit                                                               
backed by credit  union alternatives. She said  with average APRs                                                               
of  435 percent;  payday loans  are predatory  and unsustainable.                                                               
She  stated  that Alaska's  Division  of  Banking reports  payday                                                               
lending drains  $20 million  annually from  vulnerable residents.                                                               
Pay day lending use has declined  in the last 5 years but remains                                                               
a problem with  70 percent of loans online,  affecting both rural                                                               
and urban  areas. She  stated that  statewide the  relief project                                                               
showed borrowers  are trapped by high-interest  online loans. She                                                               
said  lenders claiming  to help  often just  roll over  debt with                                                               
more fees. This  widespread issue needs real  reform, not defense                                                               
of harmful lending.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:51:43 PM                                                                                                                    
JOSEPH  RUBIN, Vice  President,  Opportunity Financial,  Chicago,                                                               
Illinois,  testified  with concerns  on  SB  39 and  stated  that                                                               
consumers need  access to short-term  loans, and SB 39  would cut                                                               
off this vital  support. He said about 60  million Americans lack                                                               
credit and savings. According to  the federal reserve nearly half                                                               
of  the loans  were denied  in  2024, especially  those with  low                                                               
scores.  He   stated  that   in  Alaska,   Opportunity  Financial                                                               
facilitated 2,000  loans annually  in 2023  and 2024,  mostly for                                                               
credit  union members,  but fewer  than 1  percent were  approved                                                               
when routed  to banks  at 36  percent. Alternatives  like working                                                               
extra  hours or  borrowing  from family  aren't practical  during                                                               
emergencies,  and  SB 39  even  raises  pawn shop  rates,  making                                                               
options  more  costly.  He said  while  protecting  consumers  is                                                               
important, a 36 percent cap  would leave many without credit when                                                               
they need it most.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:55:13 PM                                                                                                                    
DANIELLE  ARLOWE,  Senior   Vice  President,  American  Financial                                                               
Services Association,  Washington, D.C., testified  with concerns                                                               
on  SB 39  and  stated  that SB  39  creates confusion,  disrupts                                                               
commercial lending,  and risks cutting  off access to  credit for                                                               
those who need it most.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:58:41 PM                                                                                                                    
ANDREW  DUKE,  CEO,  Online Lenders  Alliance  (OLA),  Arlington,                                                               
Virginia, testified  in opposition to  SB 39 and stated  that OLA                                                               
supports  expanding  credit  access  and  choice,  especially  in                                                               
Alaska where  one-third of residents  are credit  constrained and                                                               
carry  the nation's  highest  credit  card debt.  He  said SB  39                                                               
assumes  lenders can  offer small  loans at  very low  rates, but                                                               
that's  not  feasible;  lenders  won't  cover  costs,  so  credit                                                               
options will  vanish. In  Illinois, similar  laws led  to reduced                                                               
credit  access and  more financial  hardship. He  said banks  and                                                               
credit unions  aren't meeting demand,  so many rely on  the loans                                                               
SB 39  would eliminate. SB 39  would only limit credit  for those                                                               
who need it most.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:02:32 PM                                                                                                                    
NOWEL LOWE,  Owner, Alaska Fast Cash,  Wasilla, Alaska, testified                                                               
in opposition to  SB 39 and stated that his  company is no longer                                                               
involved with payday loans and  wanted to correct some inaccurate                                                               
claims made  earlier. He  said these loans  don't charge  $80 per                                                               
month for  a year,  and borrowers  can only  extend a  loan twice                                                               
before they must pay it off  in full. If eligible, they can apply                                                               
for  a  new loan  after  repayment.  He  stated that  Alaska  law                                                               
requires lenders  to offer  a six-month,  interest-free repayment                                                               
plan if the  borrower can't pay, and  interest stops accumulating                                                               
at  default.  This protection  isn't  offered  by banks  or  most                                                               
online lenders.  He said the  high fees reflect the  high default                                                               
risk,  making this  an unprofitable  business  for small  lenders                                                               
like him. He stated that he  left the market because state audits                                                               
cost   more  than   the  earnings   and  auditors   review  every                                                               
transaction, and  if an  error was made,  the lender  must refund                                                               
the borrower. He said rural  Alaskans now turn to online lenders,                                                               
often draining borrowers' accounts completely.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:05:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN closed public testimony on SB 39.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:06:03 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR stated  that the  amendment first  came from  the                                                               
House  Finance Committee  at Global  Credit  Union's request.  He                                                               
said  both  Global Credit  Unit  and  Wells Fargo  already  offer                                                               
short-term loans  at 36 percent  APR, suggesting  Alaska's market                                                               
may differ  from states like New  Mexico. He said a  South Dakota                                                               
study shows  credit unions do  meet consumer needs, and  the bill                                                               
includes a  non-evasion clause to help  regulators address online                                                               
predatory  lenders. Similar  policies  exist in  19 other  states                                                               
without  major issues.  He said  that concerns  about definitions                                                               
are new  to his  office, but  he is open  to working  on language                                                               
changes in future committees if needed.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:09:05 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN solicited the will of the committee.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:09:08 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MERRICK moved to report  SB 39, work order 34-LS0357\A as                                                               
amended,  from  committee  with  individual  recommendations  and                                                               
attached fiscal note(s).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:09:23 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN found  no objection and CSSB  39(L&C) was reported                                                               
from the Senate Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                          

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SB24 Sponsor Statement 01.25.pdf SFIN 4/1/2025 9:00:00 AM
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SB24 Sectional Analysis ver N.pdf SL&C 2/24/2025 1:30:00 PM
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SB24 Supporting Documents-Research - Headlines - BBC News 02.21.25.pdf SFIN 4/1/2025 9:00:00 AM
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SB24 Supporting Documents-Research - Online Samples 02.20.25.pdf SFIN 4/1/2025 9:00:00 AM
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SB24 Public Testimony-Letter-Alex McDonald 02.21.25.pdf SL&C 2/24/2025 1:30:00 PM
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SB24 Public Testimony-Letter-CAA 02.21.25.pdf SL&C 2/24/2025 1:30:00 PM
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SB39 Public Testimony-Letter-INFiN 02.19.25.pdf SL&C 2/24/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 39
SB39 Public Testimony-Letter-OLA 02.18.25.pdf SL&C 2/24/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 39
SB39 Public Testimony-Letter-AKPIRG 02.19.25.pdf SL&C 2/24/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 39
SB39 Public Testimony-Letter-ILPA 02.18.25.pdf SL&C 2/24/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 39
SB24 Fiscal Note-DPS-AST 02.21.25.pdf SL&C 2/24/2025 1:30:00 PM
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SB24 Fiscal Note-LAW-CJL 02.21.25.pdf SL&C 2/24/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 24
SB24 Fiscal Note-JUD-ACS 01.28.25.pdf SL&C 2/24/2025 1:30:00 PM
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SB24 Fiscal Note-DCCED-CBPL 02.21.25.pdf SL&C 2/24/2025 1:30:00 PM
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SB24 Fiscal Note-DOA-OPA 02.21.25.pdf SL&C 2/24/2025 1:30:00 PM
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SB24 Fiscal Note-DOA-PDA 02.21.25.pdf SL&C 2/24/2025 1:30:00 PM
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SB24 Fiscal Note-DOH-CDHP 02.21.25.pdf SL&C 2/24/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 24
SB24 Fiscal Note-DOR-TAX 02.21.25.pdf SL&C 2/24/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 24
SB24 Public Testimony-Letter-SFATA 02.22.25.pdf SL&C 2/24/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 24
SB39 Public Testimony-Letter-AARP 02.20.25.pdf SL&C 2/24/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 39
SB39 Public Testimony-Letter-AFSA 02.24.25.pdf SL&C 2/24/2025 1:30:00 PM
SB 39
SB39 Public Testimony-Email-Southwest Public Policy Institute 02.23.25.pdf SL&C 2/24/2025 1:30:00 PM
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SB24 Public Testimony-Letter-Shaun D'Sylva 02.22.25.pdf SL&C 2/24/2025 1:30:00 PM
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