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                                HOUSE JOURNAL                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                          ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                          THIRTY-FOURTH LEGISLATURE                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                FIRST SESSION                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Juneau, Alaska                     Saturday                   May 10, 2025                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                            One Hundred Tenth Day                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Pursuant to adjournment the House was called to order by Speaker                                                                
Edgmon at 10:08 a.m.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Roll call showed 38 members present.  Representatives Nelson and                                                                
Rauscher had been excused from a call of the House today.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The invocation was offered by the Chaplain, Representative Kopp.                                                                
Representative Story moved and asked unanimous consent that the                                                                 
invocation be spread on the journal.  There being no objection, it was                                                          
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Dear Lord,                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Please give every member of this body the wisdom to know                                                                   
     the truth and the grace to put service before self-interest.                                                               
     Teach us to be humble and merciful and to act with courage.                                                                
     Remind us that it is in giving that one receives, it is in self-                                                           
     forgetting that one finds, it is in forgiving that one is forgiven,                                                        
     it is in dying that one awakens to eternal life. In Jesus’ name                                                            
     we pray. Amen.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Representative Dibert.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                        CERTIFICATION OF THE JOURNAL                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kopp moved and asked unanimous consent that the                                                                  
journal for the 109th legislative day be approved as certified by the                                                           
Chief Clerk.  There being no objection, it was so ordered.                                                                      

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                         MESSAGES FROM THE GOVERNOR                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
A Supplemental General Fund Authorization Request dated May 1 and                                                               
accompanying letter dated May 9, regarding fire suppression activity,                                                           
were received. The request and letter were coped to the Finance                                                                 
Committee Co-Chairs and are on file in the Chief Clerk's Office.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                          MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
HJR 5                                                                                                                         
A message dated May 9 was read stating the Senate passed HJR 5 with                                                             
the following amendment, and it is transmitted for consideration:                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 5 am S                                                                                          
     Urging the United States Congress and the President of the United                                                          
     States to reinstate the Secure Rural Schools and Community Self-                                                           
     Determination Act of 2000 and make the funding mechanism in                                                                
     the Act permanent.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
HJR 5 is under Unfinished Business.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HJR 15                                                                                                                        
A message dated May 9 was read stating the Senate passed                                                                        
CSHJR 15(CRA) with the following amendment, and it is transmitted                                                               
for consideration:                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
               CS FOR HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 15(CRA) am S                                                                  
     Urging the Governor, the Department of Natural Resources,                                                                  
     division of forestry and fire protection, the Department of Public                                                         
     Safety, municipalities of the state and relevant wildfire planning                                                         
     and response agencies, and the Alaska delegation in Congress to                                                            
     prepare for the 2025 wildfire season.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CSHJR 15(CRA) is under Unfinished Business.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
A message dated May 9 was read stating the Senate passed the                                                                    
following, and they are transmitted for consideration:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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                         FIRST READING AND REFERENCE                                                                         
                            OF SENATE RESOLUTIONS                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SJR 8                                                                                                                         
SENATE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 8 by Senator Gray-Jackson:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
       Relating to strengthening international relations with Taiwan.                                                          
                                                                                                                                
was read the first time and referred to the Resources Committee.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SJR 15                                                                                                                        
CS FOR SENATE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 15(HSS) by the Senate                                                                        
Health and Social Services Committee:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Calling on the state's congressional delegation to oppose cuts to                                                          
     federal spending on Medicaid.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
was read the first time and referred to the Health & Social Services                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                         FIRST READING AND REFERENCE                                                                         
                               OF SENATE BILLS                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SB 152                                                                                                                        
SENATE BILL NO. 152 by Senators Cronk and Olson, entitled:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act renaming Ruby Airport as Harold Esmailka Airport; and                                                              
     providing for an effective date."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
was read the first time and referred to the Rules Committee.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                       REPORTS OF STANDING COMMITTEES                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HJR 10                                                                                                                        
The Judiciary Committee considered:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 10                                                                                              
     Proposing amendments to the Constitution of the State of Alaska                                                            
     relating to the Alaska permanent fund and to appropriations from                                                           
     the Alaska permanent fund.                                                                                                 

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The report was signed by Representative Gray, Chair, with the                                                                   
following individual recommendations:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Do pass (4):  Kopp, Eischeid, Mina, Gray                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Amend (2):  Vance, Underwood                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The following fiscal note(s) apply:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1. Zero, Office of the Governor                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
HJR 10 was referred to the Finance Committee.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SB 57                                                                                                                         
The Finance Committee considered:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 57(FIN)                                                                                             
     "An Act making appropriations, including capital appropriations                                                            
     and other appropriations; making reappropriations; making                                                                  
     appropriations to capitalize funds; and providing for an effective                                                         
     date."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
and recommends it be replaced with:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     HOUSE CS FOR CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 57(FIN)                                                                                
     "An Act making appropriations, including capital appropriations,                                                           
     supplemental appropriations, reappropriations, and other                                                                   
     appropriations; amending appropriations; making appropriations                                                             
     to capitalize funds; repealing appropriations; and providing for an                                                        
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     (HCR 7 – title change resolution)                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The report was signed by Representatives Schrage, Josephson, and                                                                
Foster, Co-chairs, with the following individual recommendations:                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Do pass (6):  Jimmie, Galvin, Hannan, Schrage, Josephson, Foster                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Do not pass (2):  Tomaszewski, Johnson                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                

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No recommendation (2):  Stapp, Bynum                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CSSB 57(FIN) is on today’s calendar.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                          INTRODUCTION OF CITATIONS                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The following citations were introduced and referred to the Rules                                                               
Committee for placement on the calendar:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Honoring - University of Alaska Anchorage Wendy Williamson                                                                      
Auditorium, 50th Anniversary                                                                                                    
By Representative Schrage                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Honoring - Service High School Baseball, 2024 Cook Inlet                                                                        
Conference and ASAA State Champions                                                                                             
By Representative Schrage                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                 INTRODUCTION, FIRST READING, AND REFERENCE                                                                  
                            OF HOUSE RESOLUTIONS                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HCR 7                                                                                                                         
HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 7 by the House                                                                                  
Finance Committee:                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Suspending Rules 24(c), 35, 41(b), and 42(e), Uniform Rules of                                                             
     the Alaska State Legislature, concerning Senate Bill No. 57,                                                               
     making appropriations, including capital appropriations and other                                                          
     appropriations; making reappropriations; and making                                                                        
     appropriations to capitalize funds.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
was read the first time.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                 INTRODUCTION, FIRST READING, AND REFERENCE                                                                  
                               OF HOUSE BILLS                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HB 224                                                                                                                        
HOUSE BILL NO. 224 by Representative Josephson, entitled:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to volunteer labor compliance officers; and                                                               
     providing for an effective date."                                                                                          

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was read the first time and referred to the Labor & Commerce and                                                                
Finance Committees.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HB 225                                                                                                                        
HOUSE BILL NO. 225 by Representative Allard, entitled:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to prescription fluoride supplements; relating to                                                         
     the practice of pharmacy; and relating to fluoride in public water                                                         
     systems."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
was read the first time and referred to the Health & Social Services                                                            
and Labor & Commerce Committees.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                     CONSIDERATION OF THE DAILY CALENDAR                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                        SECOND READING OF HOUSE BILLS                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HB 13                                                                                                                         
The Speaker stated that, without objection, the following would be                                                              
moved to the bottom of the calendar:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     SPONSOR SUBSTITUTE FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 13                                                                                   
     "An Act relating to optional municipal property tax exemptions                                                             
     for certain long-term rental units, certain mobile home parks, real                                                        
     property rented to low-income families, real property owned and                                                            
     occupied as a permanent place of abode, and real property owned                                                            
     by first-time homebuyers."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
HB 78                                                                                                                         
The following was read the second time:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     HOUSE BILL NO. 78                                                                                                          
     "An Act relating to the Public Employees' Retirement System of                                                             
     Alaska and the teachers' retirement system; providing certain                                                              
     employees an opportunity to choose between the defined benefit                                                             
     and defined contribution plans of the Public Employees'                                                                    
     Retirement System of Alaska and the teachers' retirement system;                                                           
     and providing for an effective date."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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with the:                                                      Journal Page                                                     
                                                                                                                                
 FIN RPT CS(FIN) NEW TITLE 6DP 3DNP 2AM 1066                                                                                    
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 FN2: (ADM/VARIOUS DEPTS) 1066                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kopp moved and asked unanimous consent that the                                                                  
following committee substitute be adopted in lieu of the original bill:                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 78(FIN)                                                                                              
     "An Act relating to the public employees' retirement system and                                                            
     the teachers' retirement system; providing certain employees an                                                            
     opportunity to choose between the defined benefit and defined                                                              
     contribution plans of the public employees' retirement system and                                                          
     the teachers' retirement system; and providing for an effective                                                            
     date."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 1 was offered  by Representative Saddler:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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"* Sec. 44. AS 39.30.170(a) is amended to read:                                                                               
         (a)  An employer in the teachers' retirement system                                                                
     (AS 14.25) or the Public Employees' Retirement System of                                                               
     Alaska (AS 39.35) that does not participate in the federal                                                             
     social security system may become a participating employer in                                                          
     the employee benefits program under AS 39.30.150 - 39.30.180;                                                          
     however, an employee who is a member of the teachers'                                                                  
     retirement system may choose not to participate in the                                                                 
     employee benefits program under AS 39.30.150 - 39.30.180 [,                                                            
     IF                                                                                                                         
              (1)  THE EMPLOYER PARTICIPATES AS AN                                                                              
     EMPLOYER IN THE PUBLIC EMPLOYEES' RETIREMENT                                                                               
     SYSTEM UNDER AS 39.35; AND                                                                                                 
              (2)  THE EMPLOYER                                                                                                 

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                   (A)  IS ELIGIBLE FOR MEMBERSHIP IN BUT                                                                       
         HAS NEVER ELECTED TO BECOME A MEMBER OF                                                                                
                   THE FEDERAL SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM; OR                                                                      
                   (B)  WITHDRAWS FROM MEMBERSHIP IN THE                                                                        
         FEDERAL SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM].                                                                                       
   * Sec. 45. AS 39.30.180(3) is amended to read:                                                                             
              (3)  "participating employer" means                                                                               
                   (A)  the State of Alaska; [AND]                                                                              
                   (B)  an employer who                                                                                     
                       (i)  [WHO] is an employer as defined in                                                                  
              AS 14.25.220, 14.25.590, AS 39.35.680, or 39.35.990;                                                      
              and                                                                                                           
                       (ii)  does not participate [WHO HAS NEVER                                                            
              PARTICIPATED IN OR HAS WITHDRAWN FROM                                                                             
              PARTICIPATION] in the federal social security system [;                                                           
              AND                                                                                                               
                       (iii)  WHOSE PARTICIPATION IN THE                                                                        
              SUPPLEMENTAL EMPLOYEE BENEFIT PROGRAM                                                                             
              HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE COMMISSIONER]."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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Representative Saddler moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                   
Amendment No. 1 be adopted.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kopp objected.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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Representative Kopp moved and asked unanimous consent to abstain                                                                
from voting because of a conflict of interest.  Objection was heard, and                                                        
he was required to vote.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
The question being:  "Shall Amendment No. 1 be adopted?"  The roll                                                              
was taken with the following result:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 78(FIN)                                                                                                                    
Second Reading                                                                                                                  
Amendment No. 1                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:  17   NAYS:  21   EXCUSED:  2   ABSENT:  0                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Yeas:  Allard, Bynum, Costello, Coulombe, Elam, Johnson, McCabe,                                                                
Moore, Prax, Ruffridge, Saddler, Schwanke, Stapp, Tilton,                                                                       
Tomaszewski, Underwood, Vance                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Nays:  Burke, Carrick, Dibert, Edgmon, Eischeid, Fields, Foster,                                                                
Galvin, Gray, Hall, Hannan, Himschoot, Holland, Jimmie, Josephson,                                                              
Kopp, Mears, Mina, Schrage, Story, Stutes                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Excused:  Nelson, Rauscher                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
And so, Amendment No. 1 was not adopted.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 2 was offered  by Representative Josephson:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
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Representative Josephson moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                 
Amendment No. 2 be adopted.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative McCabe objected.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Costello moved and asked unanimous consent to divide                                                             
the question.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kopp objected.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The question being:  "Shall Amendment No. 2 be divided?" The roll                                                               
was taken with the following result:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 78(FIN)                                                                                                                    
Second Reading                                                                                                                  
Amendment No. 2                                                                                                                 
Divide the Question                                                                                                             

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YEAS:  15   NAYS:  23   EXCUSED:  2   ABSENT:  0                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Yeas:  Bynum, Costello, Coulombe, Elam, Johnson, McCabe, Moore,                                                                 
Prax, Ruffridge, Saddler, Stapp, Tilton, Tomaszewski, Underwood,                                                                
Vance                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Nays:  Allard, Burke, Carrick, Dibert, Edgmon, Eischeid, Fields,                                                                
Foster, Galvin, Gray, Hall, Hannan, Himschoot, Holland, Jimmie,                                                                 
Josephson, Kopp, Mears, Mina, Schrage, Schwanke, Story, Stutes                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Excused:  Nelson, Rauscher                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
And so, the motion failed.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 1 to Amendment No. 2 was offered  by                                                                               
Representatives Kopp and Josephson:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
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         "(1) is at least 50 years of age and has at least 20 years of                                                          
           membership service as a peace officer or firefighter;""                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kopp moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                      
Amendment No. 1 to Amendment No. 2 be adopted.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Objection was heard and withdrawn. There being no further objection,                                                            
Amendment No. 1 to Amendment No. 2 was adopted.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative McCabe rose to a point of order regarding conflicts of                                                           
interest.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The Speaker stated that the conflict of interest had been disclosed,                                                            
objections heard, and no further action was needed.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
The question being:  "Shall Amendment No. 2 as amended be                                                                       
adopted?"  The roll was taken with the following result:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 78(FIN)                                                                                                                    
Second Reading                                                                                                                  
Amendment No. 2 as amended                                                                                                      

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YEAS:  21   NAYS:  17   EXCUSED:  2   ABSENT:  0                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Yeas:  Burke, Carrick, Dibert, Edgmon, Eischeid, Fields, Foster,                                                                
Galvin, Gray, Hall, Hannan, Himschoot, Holland, Jimmie, Josephson,                                                              
Kopp, Mears, Mina, Schrage, Story, Stutes                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Nays:  Allard, Bynum, Costello, Coulombe, Elam, Johnson, McCabe,                                                                
Moore, Prax, Ruffridge, Saddler, Schwanke, Stapp, Tilton,                                                                       
Tomaszewski, Underwood, Vance                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Excused:  Nelson, Rauscher                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
And so, Amendment No. 2 as amended was adopted.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 3 was offered  by Representative Ruffridge:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
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Representative Ruffridge moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                 
Amendment No. 3 be adopted.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
There was objection.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
The question being:  "Shall Amendment No. 3 be adopted?"  The roll                                                              
was taken with the following result:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 78(FIN) am                                                                                                                 
Second Reading                                                                                                                  
Amendment No. 3                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:  16   NAYS:  22   EXCUSED:  2   ABSENT:  0                                                                              
                                                                                                                                

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Yeas:  Bynum, Costello, Coulombe, Elam, Johnson, McCabe, Moore,                                                                 
Prax, Ruffridge, Saddler, Schwanke, Stapp, Tilton, Tomaszewski,                                                                 
Underwood, Vance                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Nays:  Allard, Burke, Carrick, Dibert, Edgmon, Eischeid, Fields,                                                                
Foster, Galvin, Gray, Hall, Hannan, Himschoot, Holland, Jimmie,                                                                 
Josephson, Kopp, Mears, Mina, Schrage, Story, Stutes                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Excused:  Nelson, Rauscher                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
And so, Amendment No. 3 was not adopted.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 4 was offered  by Representative Ruffridge:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
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     Insert "10"                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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     Insert "10"                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ruffridge moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                 
Amendment No. 4 be adopted.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
There was objection.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
The question being:  "Shall Amendment No. 4 be adopted?"  The roll                                                              
was taken with the following result:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 78(FIN) am                                                                                                                 
Second Reading                                                                                                                  
Amendment No. 4                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:  16   NAYS:  22   EXCUSED:  2   ABSENT:  0                                                                              
                                                                                                                                

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Yeas:  Bynum, Costello, Coulombe, Elam, Johnson, McCabe, Moore,                                                                 
Prax, Ruffridge, Saddler, Schwanke, Stapp, Tilton, Tomaszewski,                                                                 
Underwood, Vance                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Nays:  Allard, Burke, Carrick, Dibert, Edgmon, Eischeid, Fields,                                                                
Foster, Galvin, Gray, Hall, Hannan, Himschoot, Holland, Jimmie,                                                                 
Josephson, Kopp, Mears, Mina, Schrage, Story, Stutes                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Excused:  Nelson, Rauscher                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
And so, Amendment No. 4 was not adopted.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 5 was offered  by Representative Ruffridge:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Page 51, line 31, following "subsection.":                                                                                      
     Insert "However, regardless of how many members of the defined                                                             
contribution retirement plan timely elect to participate in the defined                                                         
benefit retirement plan under this subsection, the administrator of the                                                         
teachers' retirement system may not transfer more than 25 percent of                                                            
eligible members from the defined contribution retirement plan to the                                                           
defined benefit retirement plan in a fiscal year. The administrator shall                                                       
prioritize transfers based on seniority as determined by date of hire."                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Page 52, line 12, following "subsection.":                                                                                      
     Insert "However, regardless of how many members of the defined                                                             
contribution retirement plan timely elect to participate in the defined                                                         
benefit retirement plan under this subsection, the administrator of the                                                         
public employees' retirement system under AS 39.35 may not transfer                                                             
more than 25 percent of eligible members from the defined                                                                       
contribution retirement plan to the defined benefit retirement plan in a                                                        
fiscal year. The administrator shall prioritize transfers based on                                                              
seniority as determined by date of hire."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ruffridge moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                 
Amendment No. 5 be adopted.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kopp objected.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The question being:  "Shall Amendment No. 5 be adopted?"  The roll                                                              
was taken with the following result:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                

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CSHB 78(FIN) am                                                                                                                 
Second Reading                                                                                                                  
Amendment No. 5                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:  13   NAYS:  25   EXCUSED:  2   ABSENT:  0                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Yeas:  Coulombe, Elam, Johnson, McCabe, Moore, Prax, Ruffridge,                                                                 
Saddler, Schwanke, Stapp, Tomaszewski, Underwood, Vance                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Nays:  Allard, Burke, Bynum, Carrick, Costello, Dibert, Edgmon,                                                                 
Eischeid, Fields, Foster, Galvin, Gray, Hall, Hannan, Himschoot,                                                                
Holland, Jimmie, Josephson, Kopp, Mears, Mina, Schrage, Story,                                                                  
Stutes, Tilton                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Excused:  Nelson, Rauscher                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
And so, Amendment No. 5 was not adopted.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 6 was offered  by Representative Stapp:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Page 9, line 6, following "employer":                                                                                           
     Insert ", except as provided in (j) of this section,"                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete "a new subsection"                                                                                                  
     Insert "new subsections"                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete the second occurrence of "contribution"                                                                             
     Insert "contributions"                                                                                                     
     Following "(a)":                                                                                                           
         Insert "and (j)"                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
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     Insert a new subsection to read:                                                                                           
         "(j)  In addition to a contribution an employer may be                                                                 
     required to make under (a) of this section for employees who                                                               
     became members of the system before July 1, 2025, each                                                                     
     employer that employs employees who first became members of                                                                
     the plan after June 30, 2025, shall contribute to the system every                                                         
     payroll period an amount calculated by applying a rate established                                                         
     by the board under AS 37.10.220 to the total of all base salaries                                                          
     paid by the employer to active members of the system. The rate                                                             

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     must be sufficient to pay the actuarially determined employer                                                              
     normal cost, all contributions required under AS 39.30.370 and                                                             
     AS 39.35.750, and past service costs for members of the system.                                                            
     This subsection does not apply to the state as an employer."                                                               
                                                                                                                                
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     Insert "and (k)"                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete "a new subsection"                                                                                                  
     Insert "new subsections"                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete the second occurrence of "contribution"                                                                             
     Insert "contributions"                                                                                                     
     Following "(a)":                                                                                                           
         Insert "and (k)"                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Page 40, following line 20:                                                                                                     
     Insert a new subsection to read:                                                                                           
         "(k)  In addition to a contribution an employer may be                                                                 
     required to make under (a) of this section for employees who                                                               
     became members of the system before July 1, 2025, each                                                                     
     employer that employs employees who first became members of                                                                
     the plan after June 30, 2025, shall contribute to the system every                                                         
     payroll period an amount calculated by applying a rate established                                                         
     by the board under AS 37.10.220 to the total of all base salaries                                                          
     paid by the employer to active members of the system. The rate                                                             
     must be sufficient to pay the actuarially determined employer                                                              
     normal cost, all contributions required under AS 39.30.370 and                                                             
     AS 39.35.750, and past service costs for members of the system.                                                            
     This subsection does not apply to the state as an employer."                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                     
Amendment No. 6 be adopted.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kopp objected.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Allard rose to a point of order regarding the                                                                    
germaneness of the debate.                                                                                                      

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The Speaker stated that the debate was germane and directed the                                                                 
member to continue.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
The question being:  "Shall Amendment No. 6 be adopted?"  The roll                                                              
was taken with the following result:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 78(FIN) am                                                                                                                 
Second Reading                                                                                                                  
Amendment No. 6                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:  17   NAYS:  21   EXCUSED:  2   ABSENT:  0                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Yeas:  Allard, Bynum, Costello, Coulombe, Elam, Johnson, McCabe,                                                                
Moore, Prax, Ruffridge, Saddler, Schwanke, Stapp, Tilton,                                                                       
Tomaszewski, Underwood, Vance                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Nays:  Burke, Carrick, Dibert, Edgmon, Eischeid, Fields, Foster,                                                                
Galvin, Gray, Hall, Hannan, Himschoot, Holland, Jimmie, Josephson,                                                              
Kopp, Mears, Mina, Schrage, Story, Stutes                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Excused:  Nelson, Rauscher                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
And so, Amendment No. 6 was not adopted.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 7 was offered  by Representative Stapp:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Page 8, lines 12 - 14:                                                                                                          
     Delete "The board may not increase the member contribution                                                                 
unless the board increases the employer contribution under                                                                      
AS 14.24.070(a)(2) by an equal amount."                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Page 38, lines 3 - 5:                                                                                                           
     Delete "The board may not increase the employee contribution                                                               
unless the board increases the employer contribution under                                                                      
AS 39.35.255(a)(2) by an equal amount."                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                     
Amendment No. 7 be adopted.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kopp objected.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp moved and asked unanimous consent to                                                                       
withdraw Amendment No. 7. There being no objection, it was so                                                                   
ordered.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                

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The Speaker stated that, without objection, the House would recess to                                                           
1:30 p.m.; and so, the House recessed at 1:00 p.m.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                AFTER RECESS                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The Speaker called the House back to order at 1:44 p.m.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                        SECOND READING OF HOUSE BILLS                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HB 78                                                                                                                         
The following was before the House in second reading:                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 78(FIN) am                                                                                           
     "An Act relating to the public employees' retirement system and                                                            
     the teachers' retirement system; providing certain employees an                                                            
     opportunity to choose between the defined benefit and defined                                                              
     contribution plans of the public employees' retirement system and                                                          
     the teachers' retirement system; and providing for an effective                                                            
     date."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 8 was not offered.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 9 was offered  by Representative Stapp:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete "12"                                                                                                                
     Insert "14"                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                     
Amendment No. 9 be adopted.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kopp objected.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The question being:  "Shall Amendment No. 9 be adopted?"  The roll                                                              
was taken with the following result:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                

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CSHB 78(FIN) am                                                                                                                 
Second Reading                                                                                                                  
Amendment No. 9                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:  17   NAYS:  21   EXCUSED:  2   ABSENT:  0                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Yeas:  Allard, Bynum, Costello, Coulombe, Elam, Johnson, McCabe,                                                                
Moore, Prax, Ruffridge, Saddler, Schwanke, Stapp, Tilton,                                                                       
Tomaszewski, Underwood, Vance                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Nays:  Burke, Carrick, Dibert, Edgmon, Eischeid, Fields, Foster,                                                                
Galvin, Gray, Hall, Hannan, Himschoot, Holland, Jimmie, Josephson,                                                              
Kopp, Mears, Mina, Schrage, Story, Stutes                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Excused:  Nelson, Rauscher                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
And so, Amendment No. 9 was not adopted.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 10 was offered  by Representative Bynum:                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
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     Insert "."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete all material.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Page 11, lines 8 - 9:                                                                                                           
     Delete ", when combined with the amount separately computed                                                                
for medical benefits under AS 14.25.087,"                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Page 11, lines 18 - 23:                                                                                                         
     Delete all material.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete all material.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                               

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     Delete all material.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Page 28, lines 30 - 31:                                                                                                         
     Delete "[DEFINED CONTRIBUTION PLAN OF THE]"                                                                                
     Insert "defined contribution plan of the"                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Page 28, line 31, through page 29, line 1:                                                                                      
     Delete "AS 14.25.009 - 14.25.590 [AS 14.25.310 - 14.25.590 ON                                                          
OR]"                                                                                                                            
     Insert "AS 14.25.310 - 14.25.590 [ON OR]"                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete "[OF THE DEFINED CONTRIBUTION PLAN] of the                                                                          
public employees' retirement system (AS 39.35) [PUBLIC                                                                      
EMPLOYEES' RETIREMENT SYSTEM UNDER AS 39.35.700 -                                                                               
39.35.990 ON OR]"                                                                                                               
     Insert "of the defined contribution plan [OF THE PUBLIC                                                                    
EMPLOYEES' RETIREMENT SYSTEM] under AS 39.35.700 -                                                                              
39.35.990 [ON OR]"                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete "Except as required under (b) of this section, for [FOR]"                                                       
     Insert "For"                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Page 29, line 23, following "plan":                                                                                             
     Insert "who is not an active member of the defined benefit                                                             
retirement plan established under AS 14.25.009 - 14.25.220 or an                                                            
active member of the defined benefit retirement plan established                                                            
under AS 39.35.095 - 39.35.680"                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete all material.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Reletter the following subsections accordingly.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete "AS 14.25.171"                                                                                                  
     Insert "AS 14.25.168"                                                                                                  

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     Delete "AS 39.35.537"                                                                                                  
     Insert "AS 39.35.535"                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete "AS 14.25.171"                                                                                                  
     Insert "AS 14.25.168"                                                                                                  
     Delete "AS 39.35.537"                                                                                                  
     Insert "AS 39.35.535"                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete "AS 14.25.171"                                                                                                  
     Insert "AS 14.25.168"                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete "AS 39.35.537"                                                                                                  
     Insert "AS 39.35.535"                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Page 31, following line 31:                                                                                                     
     Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                         
"* Sec. 50. AS 39.30.430(b) is amended to read:                                                                               
         (b)  Except as provided in AS 39.30.390, 39.30.400, and (a)                                                        
     of this section, the [THE] assets of the plan may not be used to                                                       
     pay premiums or contributions of the employer under another plan                                                           
     maintained by the employer."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete "AS 14.25.171"                                                                                                  
     Insert "AS 14.25.168"                                                                                                  
     Delete "AS 39.35.537"                                                                                                  
     Insert "AS 39.35.535"                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete "(1)"                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete "; and"                                                                                                             
     Insert "."                                                                                                                 

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Page 35, line 28, through page 36, line 2:                                                                                      
     Delete all material.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Page 40, lines 26 - 27:                                                                                                         
     Delete ", when combined with the amount separately computed                                                                
for medical benefits under AS 39.35.282,"                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Page 41, lines 3 - 17:                                                                                                          
     Delete all material.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete all material.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete all material.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete "38 and 39"                                                                                                         
     Insert "35 and 36"                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete "1 - 37 and 40 - 96"                                                                                                
     Insert "1 - 34 and 37 - 85"                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete "Section 97"                                                                                                        
     Insert "Section 86"                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete "sec. 98"                                                                                                           
     Insert "sec. 87"                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bynum moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                     
Amendment No. 10 be adopted.                                                                                                    

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Representative Stapp objected.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bynum moved and asked unanimous consent to                                                                       
withdraw Amendment No. 10. There being no objection, it was so                                                                  
ordered.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 11 was offered  by Representative Ruffridge:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Page 13, line 14:                                                                                                               
     Delete "(A)  two"                                                                                                      
     Insert "1.75"                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Page 13, lines 14 - 19:                                                                                                         
     Delete "through a total of 10 years; plus                                                                              
                   (B)  two and one-quarter percent of the years over                                                       
         10 years of total credited service through 20 years; plus                                                          
                   (C)  two and one-half percent of the years of                                                            
         credited service that are more than 20 years of total                                                              
         credited service"                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Page 42, following line 12:                                                                                                     
     Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                         
"* Sec. 75. AS 39.35.370(c) is amended to read:                                                                               
         (c)  The monthly amount of a retirement benefit for a peace                                                            
     officer or firefighter is two percent of the average monthly                                                               
     compensation times the years of credited service through 10 years,                                                         
     plus two and one-half percent of the average monthly                                                                       
     compensation times the years of service over 10 years. For all                                                             
     other employees it is                                                                                                      
              (1)  for employees first hired before July 1, 2006,                                                           
                   (A)  two percent of the average monthly                                                                  
         compensation times all years of service before July 1, 1986,                                                           
         and for years of service through a total of 10 years; plus                                                            
                   (B) [(2)]  two and one-quarter percent of the average                                                    
         monthly compensation times all years of service after June 30,                                                         
         1986, over 10 years of total service through 20 years; plus                                                            
                   (C) [(3)]  two and one-half percent of the average                                                       
         monthly compensation times all years of service after June 30,                                                         
         1986, over 20 years of total service; and                                                                          
              (2)  for employees first hired after June 30, 2006, 1.75                                                      
     percent of the average monthly compensation times all years                                                            
     of credited service."                                                                                                  

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Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete "40 - 96"                                                                                                           
     Insert "40 - 97"                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete "Section 97"                                                                                                        
     Insert "Section 98"                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete "sec. 98"                                                                                                           
     Insert "sec. 99"                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ruffridge moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                 
Amendment No. 11 be adopted.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kopp objected.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Allard rose to a point of order regarding confining                                                              
remarks to the amendment.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The Speaker ruled that the debate was germane and directed the                                                                  
member to continue.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
The question being:  "Shall Amendment No. 11 be adopted?"  The roll                                                             
was taken with the following result:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 78(FIN) am                                                                                                                 
Second Reading                                                                                                                  
Amendment No. 11                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:  16   NAYS:  22   EXCUSED:  2   ABSENT:  0                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Yeas:  Bynum, Costello, Coulombe, Elam, Johnson, McCabe, Moore,                                                                 
Prax, Ruffridge, Saddler, Schwanke, Stapp, Tilton, Tomaszewski,                                                                 
Underwood, Vance                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Nays:  Allard, Burke, Carrick, Dibert, Edgmon, Eischeid, Fields,                                                                
Foster, Galvin, Gray, Hall, Hannan, Himschoot, Holland, Jimmie,                                                                 
Josephson, Kopp, Mears, Mina, Schrage, Story, Stutes                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Excused:  Nelson, Rauscher                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                

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And so, Amendment No. 11 was not adopted.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 12 was offered  by Representative Stapp:                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Page 1, line 11, through page 2, line 11:                                                                                       
     Delete all material and insert:                                                                                            
"* Sec. 2. AS 14.25.040(a) is amended to read:                                                                                
         (a)  A teacher or member who elects under                                                                          
     AS 14.25.044(a) to participate in the defined benefit                                                                  
     retirement plan and who contracts for service with a                                                                   
     participating employer is subject to AS 14.25.009 - 14.25.220                                                          
     unless the [UNLESS A] teacher or member participates in a                                                              
     university retirement program under AS 14.40.661 - 14.40.799. A                                                        
     teacher or member who does not elect to participate in the                                                             
     defined benefit retirement plan and who contracts for service                                                          
     with a participating employer is not subject to AS 14.25.009 -                                                         
     14.25.220 if the teacher or member became a member after                                                               
     June 30, 2006, and before July 1, 2025, or has elected under                                                           
     former AS 14.25.540 to participate in the plan established in                                                          
     AS 14.25.310 - 14.25.590 [, A TEACHER OR MEMBER                                                                            
     CONTRACTING FOR SERVICE WITH A PARTICIPATING                                                                               
     EMPLOYER IS SUBJECT TO AS 14.25.009 - 14.25.220]."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete "reemployed"                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete all material and insert:                                                                                            
              "(1)  is first hired after June 30, 2025;                                                                         
              (2)  is an active member of the defined contribution plan                                                         
     under AS 14.25.310 - 14.25.590; or                                                                                         
              (3)  was first hired after June 30, 2006, and before July 1,                                                      
     2025, and, if not employed by an employer on July 1, 2025, is                                                              
     reemployed by an employer after July 1, 2025, and, before the                                                              
     date of reemployment,                                                                                                      
                   (A)  is not fully vested in the employer contributions                                                       
         made on the teacher's behalf under AS 14.25.390;"                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete "An"                                                                                                                
     Insert "Subject to (c) of this section, an"                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete "reemployment. A reemployed"                                                                                        
     Insert "employment or reemployment. Unless first hired after                                                               
June 30, 2025, a"                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Page 4, line 21, following "hire.":                                                                                             
     Insert "Notwithstanding (b) of this section, a teacher who fails                                                           
within 180 days after employment or reemployment to make an                                                                     
election under (a) of this section to participate in the plan under                                                             
AS 14.25.009 - 14.25.220 may later make an election under (a) of this                                                           
section to participate in that plan if the teacher is not fully vested in the                                                   
employer contributions made on the teacher's behalf under                                                                       
AS 14.25.390."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Page 4, line 22, following "teacher":                                                                                           
     Insert "first hired after June 30, 2006, and before July 1, 2025,"                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Page 33, line 2:                                                                                                                
     Delete "[: AS 39.35.095 - 39.35.680]"                                                                                      
     Insert ", who elect under AS 39.35.159 to participate in the                                                           
retirement plan under [:] AS 39.35.095 - 39.35.680"                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Page 33, line 30:                                                                                                               
     Delete "reemployed"                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Page 34, lines 1 - 3:                                                                                                           
     Delete "was first hired after June 30, 2006, and before July 1,                                                            
2025, and, if not employed by an employer on July 1, 2025, is                                                                   
reemployed by an employer after July 1, 2025, and, before the date of                                                           
reemployment,"                                                                                                                  
     Insert "(1)  is first hired after June 30, 2025;                                                                           
              (2)  became a member of the defined contribution                                                                  
     retirement plan under AS 39.35.700 - 39.35.990 after June 30,                                                              
     2006, and before July 1, 2025; or                                                                                          
              (3)  was first hired after June 30, 2006, and before July 1,                                                      
     2025, and, if not employed by an employer on July 1, 2025, is                                                              

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     reemployed by an employer after July 1, 2025, and, before the                                                              
     date of reemployment,                                                                                                      
                   (A)  is not fully vested in the employer contributions                                                       
         made on the teacher's behalf under AS 39.35.790;"                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Page 34, line 4:                                                                                                                
     Delete "(1)"                                                                                                               
     Insert "(B)"                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Page 34, line 7:                                                                                                                
     Delete "(2)"                                                                                                               
     Insert "(C)"                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Page 34, line 12:                                                                                                               
     Delete "An"                                                                                                                
     Insert "Subject to (c) of this section, an"                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Page 34, line 13:                                                                                                               
     Delete "reemployment. A reemployed"                                                                                        
     Insert "employment or reemployment. Unless first hired after                                                               
June 30, 2025, an"                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Page 34, line 28, following "hire.":                                                                                            
     Insert "Notwithstanding (b) of this section, an employee who fails                                                         
within 180 days after employment or reemployment to make an                                                                     
election under (a) of this section to participate in the plan under                                                             
AS 39.35.095 - 39.35.680 may later make an election under (a) of this                                                           
section to participate in that plan if the employee is not fully vested in                                                      
the employer contributions made on the employee's behalf under                                                                  
AS 39.35.790."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Page 34, line 29:                                                                                                               
     Following "employee":                                                                                                      
         Insert "first hired after June 30, 2006, and before July 1,                                                            
     2025,"                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                     
Amendment No. 12 be adopted.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kopp objected.                                                                                                   

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Representative Allard rose to a point of order regarding disparaging                                                            
comments.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The Speaker stated that the point was well taken and cautioned the                                                              
member to confine remarks to the amendment.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The question being:  "Shall Amendment No. 12 be adopted?"  The roll                                                             
was taken with the following result:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 78(FIN) am                                                                                                                 
Second Reading                                                                                                                  
Amendment No. 12                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:  17   NAYS:  21   EXCUSED:  2   ABSENT:  0                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Yeas:  Allard, Bynum, Costello, Coulombe, Elam, Johnson, McCabe,                                                                
Moore, Prax, Ruffridge, Saddler, Schwanke, Stapp, Tilton,                                                                       
Tomaszewski, Underwood, Vance                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Nays:  Burke, Carrick, Dibert, Edgmon, Eischeid, Fields, Foster,                                                                
Galvin, Gray, Hall, Hannan, Himschoot, Holland, Jimmie, Josephson,                                                              
Kopp, Mears, Mina, Schrage, Story, Stutes                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Excused:  Nelson, Rauscher                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
And so, Amendment No. 12 was not adopted.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 13 was not offered.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 14 was offered  by Representative Stapp:                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Page 8, following line 20:                                                                                                      
     Insert a new subsection to read:                                                                                           
         "(h)  The board may not increase the employer contribution                                                             
     under AS 14.25.070(a)(2) unless the board increases the member                                                             
     contribution under (e) of this section by an equal amount."                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Page 38, following line 10:                                                                                                     
     Insert a new subsection to read:                                                                                           
         "(h)  The board may not increase the employer contribution                                                             
     under AS 39.35.255(a)(2) unless the board increases the member                                                             
     contribution under (e) of this section by an equal amount."                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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Representative Stapp moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                     
Amendment No. 14 be adopted.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kopp objected.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 1 to Amendment No. 14 was offered  by                                                                              
Representative Kopp:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Page 1, line 4 of the amendment:                                                                                                
     Delete "AS 14.25.070(a)(2)"                                                                                                
     Insert "AS 14.25.070(a)"                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Page 1, line 5 of the amendment:                                                                                                
     Delete "equal"                                                                                                             
     Insert "comparable"                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Page 1, line 10 of the amendment:                                                                                               
     Delete "AS 39.35.255(a)(2)"                                                                                                
     Insert "AS 39.35.255(a)"                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Page 1, line 11 of the amendment:                                                                                               
     Delete "equal"                                                                                                             
     Insert "comparable"                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kopp moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                      
Amendment No. 1 to Amendment No. 14 be adopted.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Saddler objected and withdrew the objection. There                                                               
being no further objection, Amendment No. 1 to Amendment No. 14                                                                 
was adopted.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kopp withdrew his objection. There being no further                                                              
objection, Amendment No. 14 as amended was adopted.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 15 was offered  by Representative Ruffridge:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Page 5, line 15:                                                                                                                
     Delete "(1)"                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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Page 5, line 20:                                                                                                                
     Delete "; and"                                                                                                             
     Insert "."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Page 5, lines 21 - 27:                                                                                                          
     Delete all material.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Page 11, lines 8 - 9:                                                                                                           
     Delete ", when combined with the amount separately computed                                                                
for medical benefits under AS 14.25.087,"                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Page 11, lines 18 - 23:                                                                                                         
     Delete all material.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Page 14, line 26, through page 18, line 11:                                                                                     
     Delete all material.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Page 25, lines 5 - 6:                                                                                                           
     Delete "the health reimbursement arrangement plan under                                                                
AS 39.30.300 - 39.30.095,"                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Page 25, line 24, through page 32, line 18:                                                                                     
     Delete all material.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Page 35, line 22:                                                                                                               
     Delete "(1)"                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Page 35, line 27:                                                                                                               
     Delete "; and"                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Page 35, line 28, through page 36, line 2:                                                                                      
     Delete all material.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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Page 40, lines 26 - 27:                                                                                                         
     Delete ", when combined with the amount separately computed                                                                
for medical benefits under AS 39.35.282,"                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Page 41, line 3, through page 41, line 17:                                                                                      
     Delete all material.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Page 42, lines 13 - 17:                                                                                                         
     Delete all material.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Page 43, line 18, through page 48, line 6:                                                                                      
     Delete all material.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Page 52, line 16:                                                                                                               
     Delete "secs. 38 and 39"                                                                                                   
     Insert "secs. 35 and 36"                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Page 52, line 21:                                                                                                               
     Delete "secs. 1 - 37 and 40 - 96"                                                                                          
     Insert "secs. 1 - 34 and 37 - 68"                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Page 52, line 27:                                                                                                               
     Delete "Section 97"                                                                                                        
     Insert "Section 69"                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Page 52, line 28:                                                                                                               
     Delete "sec. 98"                                                                                                           
     Insert "sec. 70"                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ruffridge moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                 
Amendment No. 15 be adopted.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kopp objected.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                

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The question being:  "Shall Amendment No. 15 be adopted?"  The roll                                                             
was taken with the following result:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 78(FIN) am                                                                                                                 
Second Reading                                                                                                                  
Amendment No. 15                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:  15   NAYS:  23   EXCUSED:  2   ABSENT:  0                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Yeas:  Bynum, Costello, Coulombe, Elam, Johnson, McCabe, Moore,                                                                 
Prax, Ruffridge, Saddler, Schwanke, Tilton, Tomaszewski,                                                                        
Underwood, Vance                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Nays:  Allard, Burke, Carrick, Dibert, Edgmon, Eischeid, Fields,                                                                
Foster, Galvin, Gray, Hall, Hannan, Himschoot, Holland, Jimmie,                                                                 
Josephson, Kopp, Mears, Mina, Schrage, Stapp, Story, Stutes                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Excused:  Nelson, Rauscher                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
And so, Amendment No. 15 was not adopted.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kopp moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                      
CSHB 78(FIN) am be considered engrossed, advanced to third                                                                      
reading, and placed on final passage.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
There was objection.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 78(FIN) am will advance to third reading on the May 12                                                                     
calendar.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 173                                                                                                                        
The following was read the second time:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     HOUSE BILL NO. 173                                                                                                         
     "An Act relating to occupational therapist licensure; relating to                                                          
     occupational therapy assistant licensure; and relating to an                                                               
     occupational therapist licensure compact."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
with the:                                                      Journal Page                                                     
                                                                                                                                
 L&C RPT CS(L&C) 7DP                                                    1035                                                    
 FN1: ZERO(CED) 1035                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                

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Representative Kopp moved and asked unanimous consent that the                                                                  
following committee substitute be adopted in lieu of the original bill:                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 173(L&C)                                                                                             
     (same title)                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kopp moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                      
CSHB 173(L&C) be considered engrossed, advanced to third reading,                                                               
and placed on final passage.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There was objection.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 173(L&C) will advance to third reading on the May 12                                                                       
calendar.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 13                                                                                                                         
The following, which was moved to the bottom of the calendar                                                                    
(page 1090), was read the second time:                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     SPONSOR SUBSTITUTE FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 13                                                                                   
     "An Act relating to optional municipal property tax exemptions                                                             
     for certain long-term rental units, certain mobile home parks, real                                                        
     property rented to low-income families, real property owned and                                                            
     occupied as a permanent place of abode, and real property owned                                                            
     by first-time homebuyers."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
with the:                                                      Journal Page                                                     
                                                                                                                                
 CRA RPT CS(CRA) 4DP 2DNP                                                875                                                    
 FN1: ZERO(CED)                                                          875                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kopp moved and asked unanimous consent that the                                                                  
following committee substitute be adopted in lieu of the original bill:                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     CS FOR SPONSOR SUBSTITUTE FOR HOUSE BILL                                                                                   
     NO. 13(CRA)                                                                                                                
     (same title)                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                

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There being no objection, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 1 was offered  by Representative Ruffridge:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Page 1, line 7, following "ordinance":                                                                                          
     Insert "approved by the voters"                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Page 2, line 6, following "ordinance":                                                                                          
     Insert "approved by the voters"                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Page 2, line 9, following "ordinance":                                                                                          
     Insert "approved by the voters"                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Page 2, line 17, following "ordinance":                                                                                         
     Insert "approved by the voters"                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Page 2, line 20, following "ordinance":                                                                                         
     Insert "approved by the voters"                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ruffridge moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                 
Amendment No. 1 be adopted.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gray objected.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tilton moved and asked unanimous consent to abstain                                                              
from voting because of a conflict of interest.  Objection was heard, and                                                        
she was required to vote.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The question being:  "Shall Amendment No. 1 be adopted?"  The roll                                                              
was taken with the following result:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CSSSHB 13(CRA)                                                                                                                  
Second Reading                                                                                                                  
Amendment No. 1                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:  15   NAYS:  23   EXCUSED:  2   ABSENT:  0                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Yeas:  Allard, Coulombe, Elam, Johnson, McCabe, Moore, Prax,                                                                    
Ruffridge, Saddler, Schwanke, Stapp, Tilton, Tomaszewski,                                                                       
Underwood, Vance                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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Nays:  Burke, Bynum, Carrick, Costello, Dibert, Edgmon, Eischeid,                                                               
Fields, Foster, Galvin, Gray, Hall, Hannan, Himschoot, Holland,                                                                 
Jimmie, Josephson, Kopp, Mears, Mina, Schrage, Story, Stutes                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Excused:  Nelson, Rauscher                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
And so, Amendment No. 1 was not adopted.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 2 was offered  by Representative Ruffridge:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Page 2, following line 21:                                                                                                      
     Insert a new subsection to read:                                                                                           
         "(ff)  A municipality may only adopt an exemption under (aa)                                                           
     - (ee) of this section after conducting a fiscal impact study on how                                                       
     tax revenue lost under the proposed exemption would be                                                                     
     addressed without disproportionately burdening vulnerable                                                                  
     homeowners."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ruffridge moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                 
Amendment No. 2 be adopted.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gray objected.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The question being:  "Shall Amendment No. 2 be adopted?"  The roll                                                              
was taken with the following result:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CSSSHB 13(CRA)                                                                                                                  
Second Reading                                                                                                                  
Amendment No. 2                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:  15   NAYS:  23   EXCUSED:  2   ABSENT:  0                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Yeas:  Allard, Bynum, Coulombe, Elam, Johnson, McCabe, Moore,                                                                   
Prax, Ruffridge, Saddler, Schwanke, Stapp, Tomaszewski,                                                                         
Underwood, Vance                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Nays:  Burke, Carrick, Costello, Dibert, Edgmon, Eischeid, Fields,                                                              
Foster, Galvin, Gray, Hall, Hannan, Himschoot, Holland, Jimmie,                                                                 
Josephson, Kopp, Mears, Mina, Schrage, Story, Stutes, Tilton                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Excused:  Nelson, Rauscher                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
And so, Amendment No. 2 was not adopted.                                                                                        

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Amendment No. 3 was offered  by Representative Ruffridge:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Page 1, line 12:                                                                                                                
     Delete "31 consecutive days"                                                                                               
     Insert "one year"                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ruffridge moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                 
Amendment No. 3 be adopted.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gray objected.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representatives Johnson, Tomaszewski, Stapp, and Galvin moved and                                                               
asked unanimous consent to abstain from voting because of a conflict                                                            
of interest.  Objection was heard, and they were required to vote.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The question being:  "Shall Amendment No. 3 be adopted?"  The roll                                                              
was taken with the following result:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CSSSHB 13(CRA)                                                                                                                  
Second Reading                                                                                                                  
Amendment No. 3                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:  16   NAYS:  21   EXCUSED:  2   ABSENT:  1                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Yeas:  Allard, Costello, Coulombe, Elam, Johnson, McCabe, Moore,                                                                
Prax, Ruffridge, Saddler, Schwanke, Stapp, Tilton, Tomaszewski,                                                                 
Underwood, Vance                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Nays:  Burke, Bynum, Carrick, Dibert, Edgmon, Eischeid, Fields,                                                                 
Foster, Galvin, Gray, Hall, Hannan, Himschoot, Holland, Jimmie,                                                                 
Josephson, Kopp, Mears, Mina, Story, Stutes                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Excused:  Nelson, Rauscher                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Absent:  Schrage                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
And so, Amendment No. 3 was not adopted.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 4 was offered  by Representative Coulombe:                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Page 1, lines 1 - 4 (title amendment):                                                                                          
     Delete "for certain long-term rental units, certain mobile home                                                          
parks, real property rented to low-income families, real property                                                             

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owned and occupied as a permanent place of abode, and real                                                                    
property owned by first-time homebuyers"                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Page 1, line 6, through page 2, line 21:                                                                                        
     Delete all material and insert:                                                                                            
"* Section 1. AS 29.35.050(d) is amended to read:                                                                             
         (d)  A municipality that owns or operates a landfill or                                                                
     dumping area for the disposal of waste material may, by                                                                    
     ordinance, partially or totally exempt from a fee for the use of the                                                       
     landfill or dumping area the disposal of waste material generated                                                          
     from the substantial rehabilitation, renovation, demolition,                                                               
     removal, or replacement of a structure on deteriorated property.                                                           
     The exemption may apply to some or all types of deteriorated                                                               
     property, as provided in the ordinance. An ordinance adopted                                                               
     under this subsection must include specific eligibility                                                                    
     requirements and require a written application for the fee                                                                 
     exemption. In this subsection, "deteriorated property" means real                                                      
     property that, either at the time of application for exemption                                                         
     or deferral or at the time of completion of the project for                                                            
     which an exemption or deferral is requested, is                                                                        
              (1)  residential property located in a deteriorating or                                                       
     deteriorated area with boundaries that have been determined                                                            
     by the municipality, if the property is owned by an entity that                                                        
     owns at least two residential properties and eight or more                                                             
     residential units among those properties in that deteriorating                                                         
     or deteriorated area; or                                                                                               
              (2)  commercial property not used for residential                                                             
     purposes or that is multi-unit residential property with at least                                                      
     eight residential units, and that meets one of the following                                                           
     requirements:                                                                                                          
                   (A)  within the last five years, has been the subject                                                    
         of an order by a government agency requiring                                                                       
         environmental remediation of the property or requiring                                                             
         the property to be vacated, condemned, or demolished by                                                            
         reason of noncompliance with laws, ordinances, or                                                                  
         regulations;                                                                                                       
                   (B)  has a structure on the property that is not less                                                    
         than 15 years old and that has not undergone substantial                                                           
         rehabilitation, renovation, demolition, removal, or                                                                
         replacement, subject to any conditions prescribed in the                                                           

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         ordinance; or                                                                                                      
                   (C)  is located in a deteriorating or deteriorated                                                       
         area with boundaries that have been determined by the                                                              
         municipality [HAS THE MEANING GIVEN IN                                                                             
         AS 29.45.050].                                                                                                         
   * Sec. 2. AS 29.45.050(a) is amended to read:                                                                              
         (a)  A municipality may classify and exclude or exempt or                                                          
     partially exempt real [RESIDENTIAL] property from taxation by                                                          
     ordinance [RATIFIED BY THE VOTERS AT AN ELECTION].                                                                         
     An exclusion or exemption authorized by this subsection                                                                    
         (1)  may be applied with respect to taxes levied in a service                                                      
     area to fund the special services;                                                                                     
         (2)  must be approved by the voters if the exclusion or                                                            
     exemption exceeds $75,000 for a property. [AN EXCLUSION                                                                
     OR EXEMPTION AUTHORIZED BY THIS SUBSECTION                                                                                 
     MAY NOT EXCEED THE ASSESSED VALUE OF $75,000                                                                               
     FOR ANY ONE RESIDENCE EXCEPT THAT A                                                                                        
     MUNICIPALITY MAY, BY ORDINANCE, ANNUALLY                                                                                   
     ADJUST THE MUNICIPALITY'S VOTER-AUTHORIZED                                                                                 
     EXEMPTION BY THE AMOUNT CALCULATED BY THE                                                                                  
     STATE ASSESSOR TO REFLECT THE INCREASE, IF ANY,                                                                            
     IN THE ANNUAL AVERAGE COST OF LIVING, USING THE                                                                            
     UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF LABOR CONSUMER                                                                                 
     PRICE INDEX FOR URBAN ALASKA.]                                                                                             
   * Sec. 3. AS 29.45.055(a) is amended to read:                                                                              
         (a)  A municipality may by ordinance classify as to type and                                                       
     totally exempt some or all types of personal property from ad                                                          
     valorem taxes and levy a flat tax on the exempted personal                                                         
     property [THAT HAS BEEN TOTALLY EXEMPTED FROM                                                                              
     AD VALOREM TAXES UNDER AS 29.45.050(b)]. A                                                                                 
     municipality that levies a flat tax may classify the property as to                                                        
     type based on any characteristic and tax each item of property of                                                          
     the same type at a specific amount. A flat tax may be levied on all                                                        
     or on only some types of personal property. The flat tax ordinance                                                         
     must include a procedure under which the taxpayer may appeal                                                               
     the determination of ownership or classification of property                                                               
     subject to the tax. The municipality may establish procedures                                                              
     necessary to collect the tax.                                                                                              
   * Sec. 4. AS 29.45.050(b), 29.45.050(c), 29.45.050(d), 29.45.050(e),                                                       
29.45.050(f), 29.45.050(g), 29.45.050(h), 29.45.050(i), 29.45.050(j),                                                           

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29.45.050(k), 29.45.050(l), 29.45.050(m), 29.45.050(n), 29.45.050(o),                                                           
29.45.050(p), 29.45.050(q), 29.45.050(r), 29.45.050(s), 29.45.050(t),                                                           
29.45.050(u), 29.45.050(v), 29.45.050(w), 29.45.050(x), 29.45.050(y),                                                           
and 29.45.050(z) are repealed."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                  
Amendment No. 4 be adopted.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gray objected.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The question being:  "Shall Amendment No. 4 be adopted?"  The roll                                                              
was taken with the following result:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CSSSHB 13(CRA)                                                                                                                  
Second Reading                                                                                                                  
Amendment No. 4                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:  15   NAYS:  23   EXCUSED:  2   ABSENT:  0                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Yeas:  Bynum, Costello, Coulombe, Elam, McCabe, Moore, Prax,                                                                    
Ruffridge, Saddler, Schwanke, Stapp, Tilton, Tomaszewski,                                                                       
Underwood, Vance                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Nays:  Allard, Burke, Carrick, Dibert, Edgmon, Eischeid, Fields,                                                                
Foster, Galvin, Gray, Hall, Hannan, Himschoot, Holland, Jimmie,                                                                 
Johnson, Josephson, Kopp, Mears, Mina, Schrage, Story, Stutes                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Excused:  Nelson, Rauscher                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
And so, Amendment No. 4 was not adopted.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 5 was offered  by Representative Stapp:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
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Representative Stapp moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                     
Amendment No. 5 be adopted.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gray objected.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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The question being:  "Shall Amendment No. 5 be adopted?"  The roll                                                              
was taken with the following result:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CSSSHB 13(CRA)                                                                                                                  
Second Reading                                                                                                                  
Amendment No. 5                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:  17   NAYS:  21   EXCUSED:  2   ABSENT:  0                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Yeas:  Allard, Bynum, Costello, Coulombe, Elam, Johnson, McCabe,                                                                
Moore, Prax, Ruffridge, Saddler, Schwanke, Stapp, Tilton,                                                                       
Tomaszewski, Underwood, Vance                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Nays:  Burke, Carrick, Dibert, Edgmon, Eischeid, Fields, Foster,                                                                
Galvin, Gray, Hall, Hannan, Himschoot, Holland, Jimmie, Josephson,                                                              
Kopp, Mears, Mina, Schrage, Story, Stutes                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Excused:  Nelson, Rauscher                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
And so, Amendment No. 5 was not adopted.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kopp moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                      
CSSSHB 13(CRA) be considered engrossed, advanced to third                                                                       
reading, and placed on final passage.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
There was objection.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CSSSHB 13(CRA) will advance to third reading on the May 12                                                                      
calendar.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                       SECOND READING OF SENATE BILLS                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SB 57                                                                                                                         
The following was read the second time:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 57(FIN)                                                                                             
     "An Act making appropriations, including capital appropriations                                                            
     and other appropriations; making reappropriations; making                                                                  
     appropriations to capitalize funds; and providing for an effective                                                         
     date."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
with the:                                                      Journal Page                                                     
                                                                                                                                
 FIN RPT CS(FIN) 6DP 2DNP 2NR                                           1088                                                    

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Representative Kopp moved and asked unanimous consent that the                                                                  
following committee substitute be adopted in lieu of the original bill:                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     HOUSE CS FOR CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 57(FIN)                                                                                
     "An Act making appropriations, including capital appropriations,                                                           
     supplemental appropriations, reappropriations, and other                                                                   
     appropriations; amending appropriations; making appropriations                                                             
     to capitalize funds; repealing appropriations; and providing for an                                                        
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     (HCR 7 – title change resolution)                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The Speaker stated that, without objection, HCS CSSB 57(FIN) would                                                              
be held in second reading to the May 12 calendar.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                        THIRD READING OF SENATE BILLS                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SB 183                                                                                                                        
The following, which was advanced to third reading from the May 9                                                               
calendar (page 1076), was read the third time:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     SENATE BILL NO. 183                                                                                                        
     "An Act relating to hindering the Legislative Budget and Audit                                                             
     Committee; relating to the powers of the Legislative Budget and                                                            
     Audit Committee and the legislative audit division; and providing                                                          
     for an effective date."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The question being:  "Shall SB 183 pass the House?"  The roll was                                                               
taken with the following result:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SB 183                                                                                                                          
Third Reading                                                                                                                   
Final Passage                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:  31   NAYS:  7   EXCUSED:  2   ABSENT:  0                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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Yeas:  Burke, Bynum, Carrick, Costello, Coulombe, Dibert, Edgmon,                                                               
Eischeid, Elam, Fields, Foster, Galvin, Gray, Hall, Hannan,                                                                     
Himschoot, Holland, Jimmie, Johnson, Josephson, Kopp, Mears,                                                                    
Mina, Prax, Ruffridge, Saddler, Schrage, Stapp, Story, Stutes,                                                                  
Tomaszewski                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Nays:  Allard, McCabe, Moore, Schwanke, Tilton, Underwood, Vance                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Excused:  Nelson, Rauscher                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
And so, SB 183 passed the House.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kopp moved and asked unanimous consent that the roll                                                             
call on the passage of the bill be considered the roll call on the                                                              
effective date clause.  There being no objection, it was so ordered.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Costello gave notice of reconsideration of the vote on                                                           
SB 183.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                     HOUSE RESOLUTIONS IN SECOND READING                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HCR 6                                                                                                                         
The following, which was held in second reading from the May 9                                                                  
calendar (page 1078), was before the House:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     CS FOR HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 6(MLV)                                                                              
     Commemorating the 250th birthday of the United States Marine                                                               
     Corps.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The question being:  "Shall CSHCR 6(MLV) pass the House?"  The                                                                  
roll was taken with the following result:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CSHCR 6(MLV)                                                                                                                    
Second Reading                                                                                                                  
Final Passage                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:  38   NAYS:  0   EXCUSED:  2   ABSENT:  0                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Yeas:  Allard, Burke, Bynum, Carrick, Costello, Coulombe, Dibert,                                                               
Edgmon, Eischeid, Elam, Fields, Foster, Galvin, Gray, Hall, Hannan,                                                             
Himschoot, Holland, Jimmie, Johnson, Josephson, Kopp, McCabe,                                                                   
Mears, Mina, Moore, Prax, Ruffridge, Saddler, Schrage, Schwanke,                                                                
Stapp, Story, Stutes, Tilton, Tomaszewski, Underwood, Vance                                                                     

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Excused:  Nelson, Rauscher                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
And so, CSHCR 6(MLV) passed the House and was referred to the                                                                   
Chief Clerk for engrossment.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                             UNFINISHED BUSINESS                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HCR 6                                                                                                                         
Representative Kopp added as a cosponsor to:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     CS FOR HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 6(MLV)                                                                              
     Commemorating the 250th birthday of the United States Marine                                                               
     Corps.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HB 13                                                                                                                         
Representatives Fields, Galvin, Josephson, and Mina added as                                                                    
cosponsors to:                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     CS FOR SPONSOR SUBSTITUTE FOR HOUSE BILL NO.                                                                               
     13(CRA)                                                                                                                    
     "An Act relating to optional municipal property tax exemptions                                                             
     for certain long-term rental units, certain mobile home parks, real                                                        
     property rented to low-income families, real property owned and                                                            
     occupied as a permanent place of abode, and real property owned                                                            
     by first-time homebuyers."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
HB 173                                                                                                                        
Representative Galvin added as a cosponsor to:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 173(L&C)                                                                                             
     "An Act relating to occupational therapist licensure; relating to                                                          
     occupational therapy assistant licensure; and relating to an                                                               
     occupational therapist licensure compact."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
HB 182                                                                                                                        
Representative Story added as a cosponsor to:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     HOUSE BILL NO. 182                                                                                                         
     "An Act relating to live music and entertainment at breweries,                                                             
     wineries, and distilleries."                                                                                               

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SJR 8                                                                                                                         
Representative Mina added as a cross sponsor to:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SENATE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 8                                                                                              
       Relating to strengthening international relations with Taiwan.                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                 ENGROSSMENT                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
HCR 6                                                                                                                         
CSHCR 6(MLV) was engrossed, signed by the Speaker and Chief                                                                     
Clerk, and transmitted to the Senate for consideration.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                ANNOUNCEMENTS                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
House committee schedules are published under separate cover.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The following meeting today was changed:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
State Affairs Committee                                        CANCELED                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                 ADJOURNMENT                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kopp moved and asked unanimous consent that the                                                                  
House adjourn until 10:30 a.m., May 12.  There being no objection,                                                              
the House adjourned at 4:42 p.m.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                               Crystaline Jones                                                                 
                                               Chief Clerk