Legislature(1995 - 1996)

04/24/1995 03:38 PM RES

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                   SENATE RESOURCES COMMITTEE                                  
                         April 24, 1995                                        
                           3:38 p.m.                                           
                                                                               
 MEMBERS PRESENT                                                               
                                                                               
 Senator Loren Leman, Chairman                                                 
 Senator Steve Frank                                                           
 Senator Rick Halford                                                          
 Senator Robin Taylor                                                          
 Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                         
                                                                               
  COMMITTEE MEMBERS ABSENT                                                     
                                                                               
 Senator Drue Pearce, Vice Chairman                                            
 Senator Georgianna Lincoln                                                    
                                                                               
  COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                           
                                                                               
 CS FOR HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 23(FSH)                                     
 Relating to the North Pacific Fishery Management Council's                    
 inshore/offshore allocations and the Western Alaska Community                 
 Development Quota Program.                                                    
                                                                               
 CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 225(RES)                                                
 "An Act authorizing the commissioner of fish and game to issue                
 permits to possess, import, or export elephants; and providing for            
 an effective date."                                                           
                                                                               
 CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 208(FSH)                                                
 "An Act relating to seafood processing permits and hazard analysis            
 critical control point plans; relating to seafood processing plans            
 of operation and quality assurance plans; and providing for an                
 effective date."                                                              
                                                                               
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 HB 197 (MINERAL EXPLORATION INCENTIVE CREDITS) was scheduled, but             
 not taken up on this date.                                                    
                                                                               
  PREVIOUS SENATE COMMITTEE   ACTION                                           
                                                                               
 HJR 23 - No previous senate committee action.                                 
                                                                               
 HB 225 - No previous senate committee action.                                 
                                                                               
 HB 208 - No previous senate committee action.                                 
                                                                               
  WITNESS REGISTER                                                             
                                                                               
 Representative Alan Austerman                                                 
 State Capitol, Juneau, Alaska, 99801-1182¶465-2487                            
   POSITION STATEMENT: prime sponsor of HJR 23                                 
                                                                               
 Kim Metcalfe-Helmar, Special Assistant to the Commissioner                    
 Department of Community & Regional Affairs                                    
 P.O. Box 112100, Juneau, AK 99811-2100¶465-4898                               
   POSITION STATEMENT: supports HJR 23                                         
                                                                               
 Kristie Leaf, Aide to Representative Kohring                                  
 State Capitol, Juneau, Alaska, 99801-1182¶465-2186                            
   POSITION STATEMENT: prime sponsor of HB 225                                 
                                                                               
 Geron Bruce, Legislative Liaison                                              
 Department of Fish & Game                                                     
 P.O. Box 25526, Juneau, AK 99802-5526¶465-6143                                
   POSITION STATEMENT: supports HB 225                                         
                                                                               
 Ed Grasser                                                                    
 Alaska Outdoor Council                                                        
 Box 22394, Juneau, AK 99802¶463-3830                                          
   POSITION STATEMENT: testified on HB 225                                     
                                                                               
 Cheryl Sutton, Aide to Representative Moses                                   
 State Capitol, Juneau, Alaska, 99801-1182¶465-6848                            
   POSITION STATEMENT: prime sponsor of HB 208                                 
                                                                               
 Janice Adair, Regional Administrator                                          
 Department of Environmental Conservation                                      
 3601 C St., Ste. 1334, Anchorage, AK 99503-5948¶563-6529                      
   POSITION STATEMENT: supports HB 208                                         
                                                                               
 Doug Donegan, Vice President                                                  
 Trident Seafood Corporation                                                   
 5011 Jewel Lake Road, Anchorage, AK ¶243-3166                                 
 POSITION STATEMENT: supports HB 208 (testified from Yakutat)                  
                                                                               
 Greg Favretto                                                                 
 FAVCO                                                                         
 P.O. Box 190968, Anchorage, AK 99519¶278-1525                                 
   POSITION STATEMENT: supports HB 208                                         
                                                                               
 Herb Eckmanns                                                                 
 Alaska Sausage Co.                                                            
 2914 Arctic Blvd., Anchorage, AK 99503¶562-3636                               
   POSITION STATEMENT: supports HB 208                                         
                                                                               
 Harold Thompson, President                                                    
 Sitka Sound Seafoods                                                          
 329 Katlian St., Sitka, AK 99835¶747-6662                                     
   POSITION STATEMENT: supports HB 208                                         
                                                                               
 Dick Stockard                                                                 
 Tyson Seafood                                                                 
 P.O. Box 646, Kodiak, AK 99615¶486-3266                                       
   POSITION STATEMENT: supports HB 208                                         
                                                                               
 Hap Symmonds, OBSI                                                            
 P.O. Box 548, Cordova, AK 99574¶424-7171                                      
   POSITION STATEMENT: supports HB 208                                         
                                                                               
 Kit Ballentine, Section Chief                                                 
 Environmental Sanitation Development Section                                  
 Department of Environmental Conservation                                      
 410 Willoughby Ave., Rm. 105, Juneau, AK 99801-1795¶465-5280                  
   POSITION STATEMENT: testified on HB 208                                     
                                                                               
 Colin Bramhall                                                                
 Norquest                                                                      
 P.O. Box 260, Cordova, AK 99574¶424-5390                                      
   POSITION STATEMENT: supports HB 208                                         
                                                                               
 Sylvia Lang                                                                   
 Cannery Row                                                                   
 P.O. Box 120, Cordova, AK 99574¶424-5920                                      
   POSITION STATEMENT: supports HB 208                                         
                                                                               
 Gerald Masolini                                                               
 Eyak Packing                                                                  
 P.O. Box 1131, Cordova, AK 99574¶424-5300                                     
   POSITION STATEMENT: supports HB 208                                         
                                                                               
  ACTION NARRATIVE                                                             
                                                                               
 TAPE 95-48, SIDE A                                                            
  Number 001                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN LEMAN  called the Senate Resources Committee meeting to             
 order at 3:38 p.m.                                                            
                                                                               
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         HJR 23 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FISHING QUOTAS                         
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN brought up HJR 23 as the first order of business               
 before the Senate Resources Committee.  The chairman called the               
 prime sponsor to testify.                                                     
                                                                               
 Number 015                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE ALAN AUSTERMAN, prime sponsor of HJR 23, relayed               
 information contained in the sponsor statement.  HJR 23 supports              
 the reauthorization of the in-shore/off-shore Community Development           
 Quota (CDQ) program.                                                          
                                                                               
 Number 090                                                                    
                                                                               
 KIM METCALFE-HELMAR, Special Assistant to the Commissioner,                   
 Department of Community & Regional Affairs, stated the department             
 supports HJR 23.  The CDQ program has been an enormous success in             
 Western Alaska.  Ms. Metcalfe-Helmar provided committee members               
 with copies of a draft report by DC&RA, Economic Impacts of the              
 Pollack CDQ Program.                                                         
                                                                               
 Number 125                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN asked Ms. Metcalfe-Helmar if there has been any                
 opposition to the CDQ program.                                                
                                                                               
 Number 130                                                                    
                                                                               
 MS. METCALFE-HELMAR responded that the only opposition she is aware           
 of relates directly to the crab allocation.  She knows some people            
 are unhappy with the CDQ program, but they haven't heard any                  
 opposition in testimony.                                                      
                                                                               
 Number 178                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN announced that HJR 23 would be set aside until the             
 committee got a quorum.                                                       
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                    HB 225 ELEPHANT PERMIT                                   
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN brought up HB 225 as the next order of business                
 before the Senate Resources Committee.  The chairman called the               
 sponsor's representative to testify.                                          
                                                                               
 Number 187                                                                    
                                                                               
 KRISTIE LEAF, Aide to Representative Kohring, prime sponsor of HB
 225, relayed information contained in the sponsor statement.  HB
 225 would allow for permitting of elephants for entertainment and             
 exhibition.  The Department of Fish & Game is supportive of the               
 bill, and it has a zero fiscal note.                                          
                                                                               
 Number 221                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN asked how the elephants at the Alaska Zoo in                   
 Anchorage are permitted.  Are they permitted under an education               
 permit?                                                                       
                                                                               
 MS. LEAF replied they are permitted under an annually renewed                 
 education permit.  The Board of Game has directed ADF&G to set up             
 a temporary commercial permit, so that circus elephants temporarily           
 in the state can get commercial permits, which are more applicable            
 to that situation than educational permits.  Ms. Leaf thinks zoo              
 elephants could be permitted under an education or a commercial               
 permit.  That would be up to the department.  Currently there are             
 three elephants in the state of which Ms. Leaf is aware.                      
                                                                               
 Number 240                                                                    
                                                                               
 GERON BRUCE, Legislative Liaison, Department of Fish & Game, stated           
 ADF&G does support the bill and has worked with the sponsor in                
 drafting the bill.                                                            
                                                                               
 Number 250                                                                    
                                                                               
 EDDIE GRASSER, former member of the Board of Game, stated that when           
 he was on the board, the board hoped the legislature would deal               
 with the lack of a permitting process regarding the situation which           
 was the impetus for HB 225.  This bill solves one problem, but the            
 board supported giving the commissioner greater discretion in a new           
 permitting process, so that the board would not have to get                   
 enmeshed in these aimless battles.  These types of problems are               
 time consuming and unproductive, as far as the general purpose of             
 the board is concerned.  Mr. Grasser asserted that at the time he             
 was on the Board of Game, that was the viewpoint of most members.             
                                                                               
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN announced that HB 225 would be set aside until the             
 committee got a quorum.                                                       
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             HB 208 SEAFOOD PROCESSING STANDARDS                             
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN brought up HB 208 as the next order of business                
 before the Senate Resources Committee.  The chairman called the               
 sponsor's representative to testify.                                          
                                                                               
 Number 267                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHERYL SUTTON, Aide to Representative Moses, prime sponsor of HB
 208, relayed information contained in the sponsor statement.  HB
 208 will coordinate state regulations with federally mandated FDA             
 (Food & Drug Administration) regulations for plans of operation for           
 seafood processing facilities.  Ms. Sutton submitted a partial list           
 of supporters of HB 208 to the committee.  HB 208 has a zero fiscal           
 note.  Ms. Sutton informed the committee that she has received                
 unanimous support on the bill from everyone who has contacted her             
 about it.                                                                     
                                                                               
 Number 322                                                                    
                                                                               
 JANICE ADAIR, Department of Environmental Conservation, testifying            
 from Anchorage, stated the department worked with the sponsor of HB
 208 on drafting the bill.  DEC supports HB 208.                               
                                                                               
 Number 335                                                                    
                                                                               
 DOUG DONEGAN, Vice President of Trident Seafoods, testifying from             
 Yakutat, stated Trident Seafoods strongly supports HB 208.                    
 [Teleconference transmission is poor during Mr. Donegan's                     
 testimony.]                                                                   
                                                                               
 Number 353                                                                    
                                                                               
 GREG FAVRETTO, FAVCO, testifying from Anchorage, stated he supports           
 HB 208.  Mr. Favretto thinks HB 208 will be helpful to the seafood            
 industry.                                                                     
                                                                               
 Number 360                                                                    
                                                                               
 HERB ECKMANNS, Alaska Sausage Co., testifying from Anchorage,                 
 stated he supports HB 208.                                                    
                                                                               
 HAROLD THOMPSON, President of Sitka Sound Seafoods, testifying from           
 Sitka, stated SSS supports HB 208.                                            
                                                                               
 DICK STOCKARD, Regional Manager for Tyson Seafoods, testifying from           
 Kodiak, stated Tyson Seafoods supports HB 208.                                
                                                                               
 Number 370                                                                    
                                                                               
 HAP SYMMONDS, OBSI, testifying from Cordova, states OBSI supports             
 HB 208.  He thinks it is good to see the state recognize that                 
 simplification of regulations is needed.                                      
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN asked Ms. Adair if DEC will be monitoring when                 
 federal regulations will go into effect, so the state can implement           
 concurrent regulations.                                                       
                                                                               
 Number 380                                                                    
                                                                               
 MS. ADAIR responded that DEC is in almost daily contact with the              
 FDA, and will be monitoring federal implementation of regulations.            
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN asked when HB 208 will go into effect.                         
                                                                               
 MS. ADAIR replied it will not be in effect for this summer's                  
 fishing season.  It is expected that the regulations will be                  
 published approximately by the end of this calendar year, and the             
 implementation process will take about a year.                                
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN asked how that time frame will affect state                    
 implementation.                                                               
                                                                               
 MS. ADAIR responded the state will have to adopt the federal                  
 regulations by referencing.  It is DEC's intent to do so as quickly           
 as possible.                                                                  
                                                                               
 Number 394                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR asked if Alaska is going to a lower level, or a                
 different standard, to be more compatible with what the rest of the           
 world is doing.                                                               
                                                                               
 Number 399                                                                    
                                                                               
 MS. ADAIR responded that the department does not see HB 208 as a              
 roll-back of the requirements, but as a change in focus.  HB 208              
 will be a proactive tool in ensuring safe seafood products.                   
                                                                               
 Number 420                                                                    
                                                                               
 KIT BALLENTINE, Section Chief, Environmental Sanitation Development           
 Section, Department of Environmental Conservation, clarified that             
 the existing plan of operation focuses on food safety, sanitation,            
 and economic fraud.  HB 208 would separate critical control points            
 in seafood processing.  Processors will still have to keep a clean            
 plant, but they will not have to provide written plans to DEC.  It            
 is not a diminution of standards; it will streamline the process              
 for processors.                                                               
                                                                               
 Number 437                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR is troubled to hear that Alaska's standards will be            
 higher than those of the FDA.                                                 
                                                                               
 MS. BALLENTINE responded that our standards will be exactly the               
 same.                                                                         
                                                                               
 Number 453                                                                    
                                                                               
 COLIN BRAMHALL, Norquest Seafoods, testifying from Cordova, stated            
 Norquest supports HB 208.                                                     
                                                                               
 Number 457                                                                    
                                                                               
 SYLVIA LANG, Owner of Cannery Row, testifying from Cordova, stated            
 she supports HB 208.  The present process is overwhelming and                 
 onerous.                                                                      
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN asked Ms. Lang what volume of seafood her company              
 processed last year.                                                          
                                                                               
 Number 468                                                                    
                                                                               
 MS. LANG replied that her company processed almost 3 million pounds           
 last year.                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN noted that the committee just passed a bill out of             
 committee Friday which would help companies that process under                
 30,000 pounds per year.                                                       
                                                                               
 MS. LANG responded that her company also encourages direct                    
 marketing of seafood by fishermen.                                            
                                                                               
 Number 481                                                                    
                                                                               
 GERALD MASOLINI, Owner of Eyak Packing Co., testifying from                   
 Cordova, stated he supports HB 208.  He has been canning salmon               
 since 1983, and every year there is more paperwork.  It seems now             
 as though he spends a good deal of his time doing paperwork, before           
 he can begin to do the real work.                                             
                                                                               
 Number 492                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR noted that he has yet to hear someone who is not             
 complaining about the amount of paperwork.  He thinks we should go            
 further than HB 208 to reduce the burden placed on the seafood                
 processing industry.                                                          
                                                                               
 Number 519                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR FRANK wishes there was more support for the regulatory                
 problems the mining industry faces.                                           
                                                                               
 Number 547                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN called an at ease at 4:21 p.m., so the committee can           
 get a quorum.                                                                 
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN called the Senate Resources Committee back to order            
 at 4:35 p.m.                                                                  
                                                                               
 SENATOR HALFORD made a motion to discharge HB 208 from the Senate             
 Resources Committee with individual recommendations.                          
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN, hearing no objection, stated HB 208 was discharged            
 from committee with individual recommendations.                               
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 Number 555                                                                    
                                                                               
                    HB 225 ELEPHANT PERMIT                                   
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN brought HB 225 back before the Senate Resources                
 Committee.                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR HALFORD made a motion to discharge HB 225 from the Senate             
 Resources Committee with individual recommendations.                          
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN, hearing no objection, stated HB 225 was discharged            
 from committee with individual recommendations.                               
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 Number 558                                                                    
                                                                               
         HJR 23 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FISHING QUOTAS                         
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN brought HJR 23 back before the Senate Resources                
 Committee.                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR HALFORD made a motion to discharge HJR 23 from the Senate             
 Resources Committee with individual recommendations.                          
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN, hearing no objection, stated HJR 23 was discharged            
 from committee with individual recommendations.                               
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN adjourned the Senate Resources Committee meeting at            
 4:37 p.m.                                                                     
                                                                               

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