Legislature(1995 - 1996)

04/13/1995 03:32 PM STA

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 SSTA - 4/13/95                                                                
           SB 142 HUMAN RESOURCE INVESTMENT COUNCIL                          
 CHAIRMAN SHARP calls the Senate State Affairs Committee to order at           
 3:32 p.m. and brings up SB 142 as the first order of business                 
 before the committee.  The chairman notes that the committee does             
 not yet have a quorum, but will begin by taking testimony.                    
 Chairman Sharp calls the first witness.                                       
 Number 020                                                                    
 BRAD PIERCE, Senior Policy Analyst, Office of Management & Budget,            
 reads a written statement consisting of information contained in              
 the transmittal letter from the governor.                                     
 Number 098                                                                    
 MR. PIERCE reads a sectional analysis for SB 142.                             
 Number 190                                                                    
 SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS expresses concern over the fiscal note,                
 which is for a larger sum than last year's fiscal note.                       
 CHAIRMAN SHARP asks Mr. Pierce to explain why, since funding is               
 being transferred from other sources, the fiscal note is not a zero           
 fiscal note.  The chairman notes that when he sees a fiscal note              
 with money on it, that means additional funding.                              
 MR. PIERCE states there is no additional funding.  This is                    
 transferring money from existing programs to the Governor's Office.           
 SENATOR DUNCAN adds that the fiscal note he has shows interagency             
 receipts.  The funding source does not show under general funds, so           
 he would assume the money is already in the budget, and is not a              
 new expenditure.                                                              
 MR. PIERCE responds that is a correct observance.  He states the              
 fiscal note shows how the money is being transferred.                         
 SENATOR DUNCAN asks if there is any new money, since there will be            
 one new position created by SB 142.                                           
 MR. PIERCE replies that the cost of the new position is being                 
 Number 222                                                                    
 SENATOR LEMAN comments that a four person staff for the council               
 seems like a large staff.  Also, he thinks a board of 23 to 26                
 members is very large, and may be unwieldy.  Senator Leman asks if            
 there will be a net savings from SB 142.                                      
 Number 235                                                                    
 MR. PIERCE responds that a net savings over time is anticipated.              
 At this time, there are three poorly-staffed councils.  What SB 142           
 will do is give us one adequately-staffed council.  However, the              
 primary reason for SB 142 is not as a cost-saving measure: it is to           
 increase effectiveness in job-training programs.                              
 SENATOR LEMAN would like to see larger fiscal savings, while still            
 increasing efficiency.                                                        
 SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS asks Mr. Pierce if he has a copy of last               
 year's fiscal note.                                                           
 MR. PIERCE responds he probably has one in his office.  He                    
 reiterates that the fiscal note is a zero fiscal note, and there              
 will be no new expenditures due to SB 142.                                    
 CHAIRMAN SHARP asks Mr. Pierce if the council will just serve in an           
 advisory capacity in relation to the private industry councils                
 MR. PIERCE replies that it will assume to functions of the Job                
 Training Coordinating Council, which currently oversees the pics.             
 Number 270                                                                    
 JERRY LEWIS, Executive Director, Governor's Council on Vocational             
 & Career Education, states the council supports SB 142.  He asks              
 that the committee consider including the School to Work Transition           
 Council under the umbrella of the Alaska Human Resource Investment            
 Council.  Mr. Lewis also suggests requiring that the chairperson of           
 the Alaska Human Resource Investment Council be from the private              
 sector.  He also suggests not requiring every member of every                 
 council to attend all meetings, because he did not think that would           
 be very workable.                                                             
 Number 311                                                                    
 SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS notes that his staff just looked up the                
 fiscal notes from last year: there were ten fiscal notes, and all             
 of them were zero.  He asks if there is a difference between last             
 year's bill and this year's bill.                                             
 MR. PEARCE responds that the bills are very similar; it is the same           
 zero fiscal note.  There are no new general fund monies.                      
 Number 319                                                                    
 CHAIRMAN SHARP asks Mr. Lewis about his recommendation that one of            
 the co-chairpersons be from the private sector.                               
 MR. LEWIS replies that the Governor's Council on Vocational &                 
 Career Education is recommending that, instead of co-chairs, the              
 new council have a chairperson and a vice-chairperson, with the               
 chairperson from the private sector.                                          
 Number 330                                                                    
 JAN TATLOW, Member, Private Industry Council, testifying from                 
 Matsu, states she is concerned with the composition of the council.           
 She recommends that the three private industry councils in the                
 state be given a seat on the new council to ensure a local linkage.           
 Number 350                                                                    
 DEBRA CALL, Chairperson, Alaska Job Training Council, testifying              
 from Anchorage, states she is a strong proponent of SB 142.  Ms.              
 Call thinks the current educational system is gearing students                
 toward college education, but in reality, only a small percentage             
 of students actually go to college.  She hopes this legislation               
 will help resolve the future for the students who do not go to                
 college.  Ms. Call also hopes SB 142 will help increase hiring and            
 employment opportunities for state residents.                                 
 MS. CALL states that consolidation of employment and training                 
 programs is also occurring on the national level and in other                 
 states.  We need a state council to set priorities based upon                 
 employment needs and opportunities within the state.  The existing            
 councils are only serving the requirements of the federal programs            
 which established the councils.  Ms. Call states also, that it is             
 her understanding that U.S. Senator Stevens is very supportive of             
 this legislation.                                                             
 Number 412                                                                    
 SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS asks Ms. Call if she has seen the fiscal               
 note for SB 142.                                                              
 MS. CALL responds she does not believe there is a fiscal note.                
 There will be no new general fund monies.                                     
 Number 417                                                                    
 SENATOR LEMAN asks Ms. Call if 23-26 members is necessary.                    
 MS. CALL replies the number of members reflects the recommendation            
 of the JTPA.                                                                  
 SENATOR LEMAN asks if that number is similar to the number                    
 specified in last year's bill.                                                
 MS. CALL thinks the number is similar.                                        
 MR. PIERCE adds that last year's bill did not consolidate the three           
 councils; it just created an additional council to oversee the                
 three existing councils.  The number of members does reflect the              
 requirements of JTPA.                                                         
 MS. CALL agrees that the size of the council could be cumbersome.             
 Number 451                                                                    
 MARY SHIELDS, testifying from Anchorage, informs the committee that           
 she runs a contract employment service.  Ms. Shields states she               
 supports SB 142.  She sees a lack of training opportunities for               
 people who are out of highschool or have dropped out of college.              
 She also sees a great many people returning to college for a second           
 degree because they are unable to get a job, even though they have            
 a college education.  In trying to help people find work, she                 
 understands how hard it is to be laid of from an industry in                  
 decline and have to be retrained for a different industry.  She has           
 seen these problems in both the oil and the logging industries.               
 Coordination of employment services will save time and money and              
 will be more efficient.                                                       
 Number 498                                                                    
 MS. SHIELDS informs the committee that U.S. Senator Stevens                   
 supports SB 142.                                                              
 Number 500                                                                    
 TEENY METCALF, Alaska Job Training Council, Department of Community           
 & Regional Affairs, testifying from Anchorage, states the                     
 department is in favor of SB 142.                                             
 CHAIRMAN SHARP notes that the legislation will be held over until             
 the next committee meeting.                                                   
 Number 510                                                                    
 SENATOR LEMAN asks what the language, "local public education"                
 MR. PIERCE responds that refers to K-12 education.  He believes               
 that is a JTPA requirement.                                                   
 Number 520                                                                    
 CHAIRMAN SHARP states it is his intention to move SB 142 out at the           
 next committee meeting.                                                       

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