----------------------- Page 1----------------------- 1971-72 HOUSE RESOURCES COMMITTEE TABLE OF CONTENTS 1972 INDEX 1972 MINUTES: 1/13/1972 - 5/3/1972 1972 BILL STATUS 1972 MEMOS AND REPORTS 1971-72 HRES MINLOG ----------------------- Page 2----------------------- ----------------------- Page 3----------------------- 1971-72 HOUSE RESOURCES COMMITTEE TABLE OF CONTENTS 1972 INDEX 1972 MINUTES: 1/13/1972 - 5/3/1972 1972 BILL STATUS 1972 MEMOS AND REPORTS 1971-72 HRES MINLOG ----------------------- Page 4----------------------- ----------------------- Page 5----------------------- HOUSE RESOUR CES COMMITTEE - ICf 1~ January 1 3 February 23 Considered: Passed Out: Considered: Passed Out: SB 203 SB 206 HB 155 SB 206 SB 218 February 24 Considered: Passed Out: January 18 HJR 113 HJR 113 Consldered: Passed Out: HCR 31 HCR 31 HB 455 SB 104 SB 104 SB 218 February 28 SB 203 Considered: Passed Out: SB 218 HB 230 January 20 March 3 Considered: Passed Out: Considered: Passed Out: CSSB 51 January 26 March 4 Considered: Passed Out: Considered: Passed Out: HJR 85 HJR 85 HB 618 HB 685 HB 685 January 31 Considered: Passed Out: March 7 HJR 81 HJR 81 Considered: Passed Out: HJR 91 HJR 91 HB 686 HB 124 HB 124 March 9 February 1 Considered: Passed Out: Considered: Passed Out: HB 36 HJR 89 HJR 89 March 14 Considered: Passed Out: February 4 HJR III HJR III Considered: Passed Out: HJR 119 HJR 119 HJR 90 HJR 90 SCR 5am SJR 53 February 8 Considered: Passed Out: March 17 HCR 6 HB 562 Considered: Passed Out: HB 562 HB 704 SJR 59am SB 355 February 15 SJR 59am Considered: Passed Out: HB 166 March 21 Considered: Passed Out: February 17 HB 532 HCR 6 Considered: Passed Out: HCR 6 HB 593 HB 593 March 22 February 22 Considered: Passed Out: Considered: Pa§sed Out: HB 155 HB 560 SB 313 ~1 - ----------------------- Page 6----------------------- HOUSE RESOURCES COMMITTEE (cont.) I C1'1 'Jv March 27 April 20 Considered: Passed Out: Considered: Passed Out: HB 500 SCR 10 SCR 10 CSSB 281 CSSB 281 March 30 HCR 63 SCR 31 Considered: Passed Out: SCR 31 HB 718 HB 718 April 21 March 31 Considered: Passed Out: Considered: Passed Out: HB 747 HB 747 HB 167 HB 749 HB 749 HB 622 April 3 April 24 Considered: Passed Out: Considered: Passed Out: HB 565 HB 614 HB 614 HB 687 HB 729 HCR 63 April 4 Considered: Passed Out: April 25 HB 687 HB 687 Considered: Passed Out: SB 413 SB 413 April 5 SJR 67 HB 622 Considered: Passed Out: HB 783 HB 155 HB 622 April 6 Considered: Passed Out: HB 618 HB 618 April 13 Considered: Passed Out: HB 155 April 14 Considered: Passed Out: HCR 43 HCR 43 HB 634 HB 634 HB 532 HB 532 SB 311am SB 311am April 18 Considered: Passed Out: HB 569 HB 569 HB 769 HB 769 HB 770 HB 770 April 19 Considered: Passed Out: HB 726 HB 726 SCR 5am SCR 5am HB 617 CSHB 155 CSHB 155 -2- ----------------------- Page 7----------------------- ----------------------- Page 8----------------------- RESOURCES COMMITTEE January 13, 1972 Marty Farrell, Chairman Committee was called to order by chairman Farrell at 10:30 AM. The chairman introduced Representative Flynn to all committee members and staff. In response to a question from Mr. Swanson, the chairman in- dicated that while it would be his general policy to take up on the request of any member, any measure before the committee, he intended to reserve ultimate authority in such matters. SENATE BILL 206 relating to: FEES FOR DUPLICATE SPORT FISHING AND HUNTING LICENSES Commissioner Noerenberg from the Department of Fish and Game testified that this agency had no objection to the proposed legislation. Mr. Kimlinger, representing the Department of Revenue, also speaking for the administration, indicated no objection. He suggested, however, vildt an immediate effective date clause be added. Representative Tillion moved and unanimous consent was obtained for a Do Pass recommendation with the suggested amendment. SENATE BILL 218 am providing for: THE TAKING OF FISH AND GAME IN CLOSED AREAS IN CASES OF DIRE EMERGENCY Commissioner Noerenberg briefly outlined the background con- cerning this bill and stated that his department was in favor of its passage. Mr. Swanson questioned whether in certain cases a strict in- ternretation of the language of the bill and of the regulations which would be enforced under it might result in a hardship to individuals who may have killed a big game in self defence many miles from transportation facilities and who would be re- quired under the present regulations to pack out the animal's hide in order to comply with the requirement that it be turned over to Fish and Game officials. Commissioner Noerenberg as- mitted that this would be true but suggested that enforcement tempered woth common sense would take such cinditions into account. Mr. Mark Jenson, registered guide, testified that his experience as an expert witness in criminal cases brought under these regulations indicated to ~jm that there were no statewide stan- dards for the enforcement of the regulations concerning the emergency taking of fish and game. Mr. Naughton 6bserved that this bill would extend rather than restrict the citizens l right ----------------------- Page 9----------------------- January 13, 1972 to take animals under extraordinary circumstances since the reference to food is eliminated and the words "dire emergencyll substitutea. Commissioner Noerenberg suggested that the Department of Fish and Game staff could come up with a revised regulation which would give a person subject to these unusual circumstances an "out". It was the concensus of the committee that the mat- ter should be held over until the Fish and Game staff had an opportunity to do this. SENATE BILL 203 providing for: THE ELIMINATION OF THE 25¢ FISHING AND HUNTING LICENSE Commissioner Noerenberg briefly described the circumstances leading up to the introduction of this legislation and in- dicated that while his department had no objections to its passage, niether did it favor it. There was discussion among several committee members as to whether or not the 25¢ license was actually utilized by the people in the bush or whether benefits were primarily going to urban residents of Anchorage and Fairbanks. Mr. Kiminger from the Department of Revenue said that he would try to obtain for the committee a breakdown regarding who ob- tained such licenses and from where. Several members noted that persons holding this type of license had often been known to sell their fish or game in violation of the law. Among several suggestions advanced was the proposal that per- sons whose economic circumstances could not permit them to obtain licenses under the regular fee schedule be allowed to obtain them through the Department of Health and Social Services. It was decided to postpone further consideration of this bill until the statistics from the Department of Revenue were available. ----------------------- Page 10----------------------- RESOURCES COMMITTEE January 18, 1972 Marty Farrell, Chairman The meeting was called to order by Chairman Farrell at 10:30 AM in the House Conference Room. HOUSE BILL 455 providing for: THE GRANTING OF STATE LANDS TO PERSONS WHO HAVE FULFILLED FEDERAL LAND LAW REQUIREMENTS Commissioner Herbert appeared to testify on this bill. It was his view that this bill would merely formalize the existing authority of the State Division of Lands to grant land rights to individuals who had made entry on federal lands which were subsequently selected by the state and whose rights to the land under federal law had been compromised by administrative error or other technicality. Herbert pointed out, however, that sub- paragraphcC beginning on line 19 actually inposes additional restrictions on the authority now exercised by the division of lands in such cases. Questions from the chairman and various other committee members revealed that no one could think of a specific instance where this particular legislation would relieve a hardship that could not already be relieved under existing authority. Commissioner Herbert observed that while he saw nothing wrong with the bill it had not been drafted in his office nor at his departments' request, and that he was at a loss to explain why it was needed. The chairman suggested that it may have something to do with Native land rights but determined that the committee would hold over further considerations of the bill until someone from the attorney general's office knowledgeable in regard to the need for this bill comes down and testifies in its behalf. SENATE BILL 104 providing for: THE OFFICE OF STATE GEOLOGIST AND A DIVISION OF GEOLOGICAL AND GEOPHYSICAL SURVEYS IN THE DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES Commissioner Herbert briefly described his administrative prob- lem in finding the appropriate person to staff this administra- tive position under the tat her restrictive requirements under existing legislation. For the moment at least the Department of Natural Resources has circumvented this legislation by appoint- ing an assistant commissioner for mineral resources to fulfill these responsibilities. This legislation was submitted at the request of the Governor in order to rectify the situation and to make the decision on who was to be appointed to the position more a matter of administrative discretion. In the ensuing discussion it was pointed out that the matter had come before the committee in the previous year and that a ----------------------- Page 11----------------------- good deal of correspondance had been received with regard to it. Mr. Huber moved, asked and received unanimous consent to a proposed amendment changing the effectve date to July 1, 1972. On a show of hands a majority of the committee supported Mr. Tillion 1 smotion to report the legislation with no recommendation. (Note: Chief Clerks office informed the staff that changes of this nature are normally made by the clerk rather than by amend- ment.) SENATE BILL 203 providing for: THE ELIMINATION OF THE 25¢ FISHING AND HUNTING LICENSES The material subnitted by Mr. Kimlinger was noted and Mr. Tillion observed that the information contained therein was not sufficient to clearly answer the committee ':s questions. COMMITTEE BUSINESS Mr. Swanson requested that consideration of his resolution, HJR 81, be postponed until approximately February 10th so that the persons interested in the measure could have sufficient time to; prepare testimony. The chairman announced that the committee would meet Thursday at 10:30 AM to take up the CSSB 51 relating to the Critical Habitat Areas. Also announced was the Joint meeting with the Senate Resources Committee at 3:30 PM Thursday. The chairman adjourned the meeting at 11:40 AM. -2- ----------------------- Page 12----------------------- RESOURCES COMMITTEE January 20, 1972 Marty Farrell, Chairman The chairman called the meeting to order at 10:30 am in the House Conference Room. CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 51 relating to: CLASSIFICATION OF PUBLIC LANDS Joe Blum, Chief of Habitat Development in the Department of Fish and Game, gave a brief description of the areas this legislation proposed to identify as Critical Habitat Areas. He explained that the intent of this legislation is not to close the specified areas to other types of use, but only to identify them as Critical Habitat Areas, with perhaps more stringent regulations than those already established by the Department of Fish and Game. The question was raised as to how Native Land selections would af- fect the maintenance of these areas as Critical Habitat Areas and again it was emphasized that this legislation was for identification purposes only. Mr. Blum stated that if any portion of this land was subsequently selected as a result of the Land Claims Act, an attempt would be made to work with Native associations to keep the area earmarked. Commissioner Herbert stated that he had no objection to the establish- ment of the refuges, but objected to the establishment of the Critical Habitat Areas to the exclusion of "noncompatible" uses. He felt that these areas should be managed by administrative agreement. Pro- posed land uses submitted to the administration should be subject to joint Departmental approval as well as approval by the Joint State- Federal Natural Resources Land Use Planning Commission. Jack Hession, Alaska representative for the Sierra Club, stated that he supports the bill with reservation. He said this measure assumes that multiple land use can be applied, a concept he disagrees with because a choice would eventually have to be made between preservation and development. He stated he prefers single agency management. He pointed out that there was no account of the Department of Environ- mental Conservation and stated that he would like to see the eventual recognition of these areas as game preserves. Mr. Hession suggested two amendments: 1. The recognition of the De- partment of Environmental Conservation, giving the Commissioner the opportunity to review proposed land uses; 2. An addition to Sec. 16. 20. 230 asking the Commissioner(s) to recommend to the legislature areas of national and international interest to be preserved. Jim Kross, Director of the Alaska Center for the Environment, tes- tified in favor of the bill. He described the uniqueness of these areas and stated that they would become more significant to the preservation of certain species in ensuing years. -1- ----------------------- Page 13----------------------- RESOURCES COMMITTEE Critical Habitat Areas Mr. Kross suggested that these areas be under the joint jurisdiction of the Department of Environmental Conservation, the Department of Natural Resources and the Department of Fish and Game. Roscoe Bell stated that naming each area specifically was a good approach rather than using a "broad area" classification. He stated that, under Sec. 16.20.230, it would be "highly desirable" to give an opportunity for concurrence between the three departments and the Joint State-Federal Land Use Planning Commission. There being no further testimony, Chairman Farrell announced that another hearing would be scheduled at a later date. The meeting was adjourned at 12:00pm. -2- ----------------------- Page 14----------------------- RESOURCES COMMITTEE January 26, 1972 Marty Farrell, Chairman The meeting was called to order by Chairman Farrell at 10:15 AM in the House Conference Room . HJR 85 relating to: DELIMITATION OF TERRITORIAL WATERS - - - Representative Ferguson presented a letter from the Deputy Legal Advisor to the Cha irman explaining existing boundaries. There being no further testimony, Mr. Naughton moved, asked, and received unanimous consent to pass the Resolution out of Committee with a Do Pass recommendation. The chairman adjourned the meeting at 10:25 AM . ----------------------- Page 15----------------------- RESOURCES COMMITTEE January 31 , 1972 Marty Farrell, Chairman HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION 91 Commending Captain William P. Allen The changes proposed by the staff were adopted in addition to an amendment requesting the Resolution to be sent to the 17th Coast Guard district and an amendment requesting that the Res- olution contain a request that a copy be included in the Cap- tain's personnel file. The Resolution was reported out of com~ mittee with the recommendation that it be replaced with Committee Substitute for HJR 91. HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION 81 relating to: THE CLOSURE OF MT, McKINLEY NATIONAL PARK TO PRIVATE VEHICLES Representaive Swanson briefly discussed the Resolution, indicating that reaction from his constituents was. in favor of the resolution. Representative Specking objected to the Resolution citing an in- terview in U,S. News and World Report with the Chief of Park Service, Mr. Hartzog, during which Mr. Hartzog proposed the use of a "mini- bus" service due to the fact that present road conditions and facilities are not capable of handling additional autos .. Represen- tative Holman stated that he was not in favor of the use of buses as people would rather see the park alone. He suggested an amend- ment requesting the Department of Highways to improve facilities to accomodate the increase of people and autos. Mr. Hession, representing the Sierra Club, stated that conservation interests opposed the Resolution. He felt that it was premature. Representative Naughton asked for unanimous consent for adoption. Representative Specking objected, suggesting line 16 be amended, deleting the words: :" and none is expected in the foreseeable future." The amendment was adopted without objection. It was also suggested that the paragraph starting on line 20 be amended to include "group tours and autos~ However, this suggestion was rejected by the Committee. Huber asked that the Committee report the Resolution out of Committee as amended. There was one objection. HOUSE BILL 124 relating to: THE USE OF FIREARMS IN DESIGNATED STATE PARKS Chairman Farrell briefly described the proposed amendments. The chairman recommended the bill be replaced with Committee Substitute for HB 124 and passed out of Committee. Six members concurred. ----------------------- Page 16----------------------- RESOURCES COMMITTEE February 1, 1972 Marty Farrell, Chairman The meeting was called to order by the Chairman at 11:10 AM in the House Conference Room. HOUSE BILL 36 establishing: AN ARCTIC CLOSED AREA TO THE TAKING OF GAME AND FUR ANIMALS Commissioner Noerenberg testified briefly indicating that a portion of the wildlife population which would be protected by passage of this bill is already covered by recent closures by Fish and Game Board regulations. He indicated, however, some concern about the vagueness of the legal description of the area to be closed. Mr. Swanson indieated that he had, last year, sent an improved description to Noerenberg. Swanson indicated that he would attempt to find a copy of this description in his file. There was some general discussion concerning the effectiveness of resolutions as tools to influence Fish and Game policy. Mr. Swanson queried Mr. Noerenberg concerning the Department's wil- lingness to follow suggestions embodied in resolutions. Mr. Noerenberg responded by pointing out that such regulations are made by the Board of Fish and Game not the Department and that he has no way of predicting with any certainty the action of the Board in such matters. He did indicate, however, that the De- partment does have limited emergency powers and that these would be invQked if the Department felt there was a"need for immediate protection. Representative Barber asked and received the privilage of the floor to voice his doubts about the advisability of going the "resolution route", He alledged that the resolution concerning antlerless moose that was passed by the legislature last year had failed to elicit any regulatory response from the Board of Fish and Game. Noerenberg replied (after Mr. Barber's departur,e) to the effect that first, the resolution was not before the Board at its April meeting and second, that in most cases the advisory boards in the areas concerned had agreed to the allowed hunts. Representative Swanson indicated that he would have the measure redrafted as a resolution and bring it back to the Committee in that form. -1- ----------------------- Page 17----------------------- February 1, 1972 HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION NO, 89 urging: STATE PARTICIPATION IN AN ADVISORY CAPACITY TO THE LAW OF THE SEA CONFERENCE IN 1973 Noerenberg briefly discussed tha need for this type of represen~ tation. Representative Naughton suggested that the Director of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration be included in the distribution list of the resolution and his sug- gestion was adopted as an ammendment. Unanimous consent was asked and received to pass the measure out as ammended. -2- ----------------------- Page 18----------------------- RESOURCES COMMITTEE February 4, 1972 Marty Farrell, Chairman The chairman called the meeting to order at 10:20 am in the House Conference Room. HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION 90 relating to: FULL IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ALASKA STATEHOOD ACT Chairman Farrell explained the changes he had made for a Committee Substitute for HJR 90. He felt that much of the language in the original Resolution was tlinflammatory and irresponsible". Specifi'~ cally, Representative Farrell asked for the deletion of the paragraph starting on line 14, stating that one session of the legislature cannot resolve to commit future legislative sessions to any action. A brief discussion ensued on the constitutionality of this particu- lar clause and the committee generally agreed to the Chairman's reasoning. Representative Naughton moved, asked and received unanimous consent to report the Resolution out of committee, recommending a Committee Substitute for HJR 90. The meeting was adjourned at 11:00 am. ----------------------- Page 19----------------------- RESOURCES COMMITTEE February 8, 1972 Marty Farrell, Chairman Vice Chairman McGill called the meeting to order at 3:30 pm in the House Conference Room. HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION 6 relating to: THE RECYCLING OF SOLID WASTES Although the Committee was generally in favor of the concept of recycling solid waste, many felt that since the Resolution was requesting only a "feasibility study", the passage of this Res~ olution would only duplicate other studies now in progress. Representative Specking suggested that line 25 on page 1 be amend- ed, changing the words: "conduct a feasibility study" to "coordinate existing studies." The committee reacted favorably to Representative Specking's suggestion but decided to hold further consideration pending testimony from the Department of Environmental Conservation. HOUSE BILL 562 relating to: STATE PARKS The sponsor of the bill, Representative Mike Rose, appeared to testify. He explained the reasons for the Governor's veto of a similar bill. He said the Governor's main objection was that the previous bill did not allow the Department of Fish and Game author- ity in stream management within the park, but that this and additi.on~ al changes had been incorporated into the bill. Other changes are the addition of a small portion of land to the park and a section was added to allow parcels within the State Park to be subject to selection by the Alaska Native Land Claims. Representative Naughton asked that line 7 on page 3 be amended to include section 14 of the Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act. The amendment was unanimously adopted. Representative Naughton moved passage of the bill and asked for unanimous consent. A mQjority concurred in passing the bill out of committee as~amended. The meeting was adjourned at 4:40 pm. ----------------------- Page 20----------------------- RESOURCES COMMITTEE February 15, 1972 Marty Farrell, Chairman The chairman called the meeting to order at 9:30 am in the House Conference Room. HOUSE BILL 166 creating: SEPARATE BOARDS OF FISH AND GAME FOR WESTERN AND SOUTHEASTERN ALASKA Representative Peratrovich, sponsor of the bill, felt that the establishment of two boards would eliminate the criticizm that the present board is not responsive to fl area related fl problems. Ronald John, representing the Alaska Vessel Owners Association, tes- tified in favor of the bill. He said presently there is not adequate representation on the Board from areas of the state that are affected by Board decisions and felt that two boards would allow for members of each board to be more familiar with local problems. Several members commented that perhaps the two boards would affect each other adversely and questioned whether or not the provisions of the bill were adequate to arbitrate differences. It was sug- gested that there be area boards established with representation on a statewide board that would reconcile differences. in the interest of the state. Representative Tillion observed that two five-member boards would be unfair representation as the Western Alaska board would have a much larger area under its jurisdiction than would Southeastern. He suggested a five-member board for Southeastern Alaska and a ten- member board for Western Alaska. In response to Mr. Tillions comment, Representative Huber suggested the possibility of three boards, representing Southeastern, Western, and Northern Alaska. Mr. Huizer appeared before the commitee to testify, stating he was not authorized to speak for the board and was representing only the Department's point of view. Although he sympathized with the idea that two boards would provide fl area knowledgeable fl people, he felt a two board system was devisive in nature, creating a jurisdictional problem. He stated that two boards would duplicate efforts and that this would place an additional administrative burden on the Depart- ment since the board does not have its own staff. He briefly gave a history of the various proposals to alter the board and said that as a result of considering these proposals the present board does have flexibility. Representative Huber felt that the reluctance on the part of the Department to have two boards was a negative reaction to "informing the public." Mr. Specking said he would be in favor of separating the board in -1- ----------------------- Page 21----------------------- Resources Committee Fish and Game Board February 15, 1972 relation to subject rather than geographically. Senator Hammond stated that there is not enough distinction be- tween Board and Departmental responsibilities. He further stated that splitting the Board is contrary to the objectives of a board system. He mentioned that the Regional Board concept would allow for participation at the grass roots level. Representative Peratrovich suggested legislative review of the problems and programs relating to Fish and Game. The committee decided to hold further consideration of HB 166 until representatives from the Board of Fish and Game could appear to testify. Further hearings were temporarily scheduled for March 8, 1972. The chairman adjourned the meeting at 11:45 am. -2- ----------------------- Page 22----------------------- RESOURCES COMMITTEE February 22, 1972 Marty Farrell, Chairman HOUSE BILL 560 SENATE BILL 313 relating to: Right-of-Way Leasing Commissioner Charles Herbert, Division of Lands Director Joe Keenan, and Division of Oil and Gas Director Homer Burrell ap- peared on behalf of the Department of Natural Resources. The witnesses made the following points: 1. It was suggested that both bills are probably too encompassing, and that many pipelines running very short distances, particularly product lines, are included. 2. The five year term specified in the Administration measure (SB 313) was questioned by the witnesses, and a general preference was indicated for the Pipeline Committee form which would allow the granting of a ten year release which would be renewable for an additional ten year term. Mr. Burrell suggested that in the case of pipelines serving the Prudhoe Bay field a twenty five to thirty year term might be required to obtain fi- nancing. Mr. Keenan suggested that in his experience financial institutions would not lend money on a project unless the lease- hold was for a term at least ten years in excess of the expected payout period of the loan. Mr Olof Helen from the Attorney General's office testified on behalf of the Department of Law, and pointed out the general similarity in language and intent between the two bills. Mr. Helen also suggested that an amendment might be appropriate to narrow the scope of the bill. Mr. Helen also proposed that the legislation be amended to spe- cifically allow or require the imposition of environmental stan- dards in the lease. It was Mr. Helen's position that such a pro- vision might facilitate the recovery by the state of additional environmental protection costs imposed by the necessity of moni- toring or inspecting pipeline construction. After some discussion between Mr. Helen and Mr. Farrell, it was determined that the Administration had erred in setting the per foot minimum lease rental charges in that a zero had been dropped in the figures. For instance, the indicated charge of 80~ per foot should read $8.00 per foot. This would bring the minimum charge imposed by the Governor's bill more closely into line with that suggested by the Pipeline Committee, Senator Croft testified extensively on the bill, presenting the Pipeline Committee's position. Particulary notable was his dis- cussion of the existing permits under which oil companies now ob- tain right-of-ways; these permits are revolkable without notice, but this provision has apparently not prevented the pipeline com- panies from obtaining financing. Croft also pointed out the dif- ferences in incidence as between increases in severance taxes ----------------------- Page 23----------------------- and increases in lease payments. Briefly discussed was the re- lationship between ICC and State Regulations, but Senator Croft largely deferred consideration of this subject until Dr. Wither- spoon's appearance. Croft agreed with earlier suggestions concerning the possible desirablilty of making an undivided interest pipeline impermis- sable. -2- ----------------------- Page 24----------------------- RESOURCES COMMITTEE February 23, 1972 Marty Farrell, Chairman HOUSE BILL 155 pertaining to: FISHERIES PROCESSING TAXES Representative Carl Moses, prime sponsor of this measure spoke briefly concerning the inequities of the present tax structure on fish processing. The intent of 155 is to eliminate the differences in tax treatment of freezers and canners. Mr. T. S. Park, Director of the Collection Division in the Depart- ment of Revenue presented a memo (dated February 11, 1971) analyzing the impact of the proposed legislation on the Department of Revenue. The memorandum suggested two possible amendments, and indicated that total collections under the new tax would be slightly greater than those under the existing structure. Mr. Park was generally in favor of the legislation. After some considerable discussion, Mr. Park was requested to supply additional information concerning the expected incidence of the pro- posed tax on the various regions of the State. Further consideration of the bill was postponed until this information,is available. ----------------------- Page 25----------------------- RESOURCES COMMITTEE February 24, 1972 Marty Farrell ~ Cha,ir;na,n The chairman called the meeting to order at 10:30 am in the House Conference Room. HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION 113 relating to: THE UPGRADING OF ROAD FACILITIES IN MT. McKINLEY NATIONAL PARK Representative Swanson, prime sponsor of the Resolution, stated that it had not been his intention to request funds for the con- struction of additional roads and therefore asked for and received unanimous consent to strike the further resolve clause on line 27, page 1. Representative Peratrovich moved, asked and received unanimous consent to pass the resolution out of committee as amended. HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION 31 relating to: AN ARCTIC CLOSED AREA TO THE TAKING OF GAME AND FUR ANIMALS Representative Swanson stated that, although the Department of Fish and Game was opposed to a similar measure introduced last session, Commissioner Noerenberg felt that House Concurrent Res- olution 36 was "acceptable" and would use it as a guide, Line 9, page 1 was amended, substituting the words "Yukon River" for "Livengood", On a show of hands the Resolution was passed out of committee as amended. The meeting was adjourned at 10:55 am. ----------------------- Page 26----------------------- RESOURCES COMMITTEE March 1, 1972 Marty Farrell, Chairman The meeting was called to order at 8:15 am in the House Conference Room. Meeting times were discussed briefly and it was determined that the committee would endeavor to meet at 8:00 am on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays for the rest of the session. HOUSE BILL 230 relating to: FISH MARKETING The chairman noted the presense of Mr. Lauber representing the can salmon industry, Mr. Huizer from the Department of Fish and Game and Representative Whittaker. The chairman asked these gentlemen if they had any further testimony and all responded negatively. There was general discussion of the need for institutional efforts to assist fishermen in marketing their products. Mr. Specking and several others took the position that the major problem in Alaska's fisheries is the need flor limited entry. Mr. Specking suggested, however, that a marketing entity like the Alaska King Crab marketing board might be appropriate. The committee adjourned at 8:40 in order to make the room available for the House Labor and Management Committee. The chairman indicated that HB 230 would be held over indefinitely. ----------------------- Page 27----------------------- RESOURCES COMMITTEE March 3, 1972 Marty Farrell, Chairman The chairman called the meeting to order at 9:00 am in the House Conference Room. House Bill 618 relating to: EXEMPTIONS FROM SPORT FISHING, HUNTING AND TRAPPING LICENSES Representative Gene Miller spoke briefly in favor of this measure. Mr. Hilliker from the Department of Fish and Game, Protection Division, suggested that licenses were necessary in order to assist field enforcement officers. Mr. Hilliker suggested that licenses to persons qualifying under HB 618 be given free of charge. The chairman raised the question of this measure's constitutionality, specifically with reference to its residence requirement. Mr. Miller admitted that there might be a problem. The chairman stated that this bill would be held over pending an Attorney General's report on the constitutionality. HOUSE BILL 685 relating to: CRUELTY TO ANIMALS Mr. Mike Miller introduced two constiuents from Juneau who spoke briefly in favor of the bill. Mr. Naughton questioned whether this measure would cause problems with respect to the requirement regarding shelter of "domestic animals". Mr. Tillion raised simi- lar questions. Mr. Huber suggested that the word "care" be substituted for the word ffshelter" on line 20. Unanimous consent was asked and received for this amendment. Mr. Tillion suggested the removal of the words "or kills" on line 18. Unanimous consent was asked and received. ----------------------- Page 28----------------------- RESOURCES COMMITTEE Marty Farrell, Chairman March 10, 1972 TESTIMONY on the LIVENGOOD TO YUKON RIVER ROAD OPENING Chairman Farrell: How much will it take to maintain the road, what coordination have you had with the Department of Fish and Game and Environmental Conservation inrespect to the opening of this road to what might be considered heavier traffic and what is Fish and Game going to do in the way of protection? Have you advised them? Have they suggested that they will look into the area of game and fish along the road? What negotiations have been made? Commissioner Campbell: The road between the Yukon River and Livengood was constructed by TAPS and Alyeska in late 1969 to 1970. It remained in Alyeska's ownership until August of '71. In June of'71 we negotiated with Alyeska for the eventual takeover of that read and the eventual takeover of the road thats not yet built between the Yukon River and Prudhoe Bay. The agreement basically said this: (copies of the agreement can be made available) Alyeska will construct the road, fhat Alyeska will turn it over ot us to maintain at such time as the road is completed. We will make an inspection at that point and if they've got everything done that we feel should be done according to plans we'll take it over for maintenance. They will reimburse us our maintenance costs until such time as oil actually flows in the line. We will probably be maintaining the road during some time of the construction period, perhaps most of the construction period. Chairman Farrell: You mean the whole length of the road, not only -1- ----------------------- Page 29----------------------- Livengood to ... Commissioner Campbell: We're talking about the section from Yukon River north. On this particular section, from the Yukon River north, we will take it over as soon as the construction is completed. Chairman Farrell: Is this completed, are you taking it over in stages or will you take the whole thing over when its complete? Commissioner Campbell: We've got an open end to the agreement. We may take large segments. Its our determination what we take. If we what to take a piece, we can. The advantage of this agreement is that it will give us a chance to get moving into the area, get men and equipment in there, to get to know the area, get set up at their cost, since they are reimbursing us. And they will reimburse us ... all our costs until such time as oil flows on the line, be it one In year or be it five years.~Another part of this agreement we indicated that we would take over the segment between Livengood and the Yukon River as soon as that was up to snuff. This contract was signed, I believe, June Ilth.of '71. And they had a contract going with construction on that particular segment of the road at that time to seed some slopes, replace some culverts, and do various re- pair work on the road, That was completed some time in late August. IMXXMMX~XMMXXMMXXM~M~ We inspected it and took over the road in August. When the road was constructed between Livengood and the Yukon River, we did have a Fish and Game man pretty much predominantly in camp at the time. We cooperate with Fish and Game in any respect we can. We are not patrolmen, in other words, we are not authorized Fish and Game agents. We in the highway Department can't make arrests -2- ----------------------- Page 30----------------------- in this area. But we cooperate with their people and advise them of any wrong doing. Chairman Farrell: What are your projected maintenance costs from Livengood to the Yukon River for fiscal year 1973? Commissioner Campbell: About $1500 a mile. We don't intend to maintain it in the winter. Chairman Farrell: What ramifications will this opening have upon the Department of Fish and Game's general interest? Campbell: I don't believe there are any caribou, Youve got moose, as long as the camps are there you have black bear. The only fishing stream out there is ? creek, to my knowledge, and thats not what I would call spectacular fishing. Chairman Farrell: Then you don't think this will have any significant effect on the Department? Will there be heavy public traffic during the summer? Commissioner Campbell: Yes, I expect there will an increase in traffic out there. Probably not much of an increase over last year but by the very fact that we have a road in there,tourists will now go down this. Chairman Farrell: In whose ownership will you consider the road? Commissioner Campbell: The road will be in state ownership. -3- ----------------------- Page 31----------------------- Chairman Farrell: What is the Department of Highway's role in the Lost River area? Commissioner Campbell: We got into the game very early in as much as the old piece of road that went from the shore right up to the mine area was on the state highway system. It was one of those roads that was maintained during the old Alaska Road Commission days and Statehood came and it just kind of stayed on the system. We have worked closely with Economic Development, Natural Resources, to some degree with Max Brewer concerning the development of this and our role in this primarily is this: There was,session before last, these monies passed for mineral development roads that the law stated would be allocated by Natural Resources. In other words, they would deter- wheft mine the monies went. And highways would actually take care of the -t construction and supervise the contract. We worked with the owners of Lost River and Natural Resources to extend these funds. One of the very big plusses on the development of that mine was the fact that they're going to have an ore boat which can haul freight on a back haul thats empty in the right direction. If they can make arrange- ments where we can bring freight back into the dock at Lost River, C>~ a1'l4 a "back haul" basis so its inexpensive freight; if we can get a road connection from the Lost River mine to Teller to hook up to the road system, then we've done something for the mining company to make their project more feasible, plus the fact that we've decreas~the freight rate substantially on the whole Seward Penninsula which is a great economic advantage to all the people in that area. Right now we're doing a study on the cost of the road from Lost River to Teller. -4- ----------------------- Page 32----------------------- Representative Swanson: Are we going to maintain that road once its built all during the construction of the pipeline? Commissioner Campbell: When the permit has been issued and all the law suits settled, at that point, Alyeska intends to award the pipe- line contract south of the Yukon and they intend, at the same time, to award the road contracts north of the Yukon. So that during the first year th&ir pipeline construction spreads will be working be- tween essentially the Yukon River and Valdez. And the road spreads will be working from the Yukon River to Prudhoe Bay. Hopefully, the pipeline will be constructed from the Yukon River to Valdez at the end of year one. Those spreads then will move north by the road that was completed during that same year and finish the pipeline work the next year going north. Our agreement with Alyeska says that such time as they finish road to our satisfaction, essentially, we will take over the maintenance. In answer to your question, yes, probably during the construction of that period we probably will be maintaining the road. But two advantages accrue to the state here. 1. That opens up a public road to some kind of use by all the truck- ing industry. It puts some more dollars into the economy. Our trucking industry can go to the oil companies and offer to do the hauling, as opposed to them going to a stateside supplier. 2. It gets us in there where we can learn the country, we can get our maintenance camp set up, get our equipment in there, get our people trained at Alyeska's expense. And a third point I'd like to make is that the tourist pressure on there is going to be one of the largest drawing cards in the state. We want to have good maintenance, good communication along the highway. End of Commissioner Campbell's testimony. -5- ----------------------- Page 33----------------------- Questions directed to Commissioner Noerenberg of the Department of Fish and Game: Chairman Farrell: What effect is the road opening going to have on the Department of Fish and Game, the protection officers, your need for increased enforcement protection during the summer, etc? Commissioner Noerenberg: We have two protection officers at Fair- banks, two at Bettles, one at Prudhoe Bay, and one at Kotzebue. At the moment we have six positions. We're sitting in fairly good shape from the point of view of enforcement I believe. A brief discussion ensued on the protection officer system. Chairman Farrell: Do you realize any extra cost to the Department from the opening of me Livengood to Yukon River portion of the road, the increased traffic its going to bring ... ? Commissioner Noerenberg: Primarily in the field of the running of state vehicles on patrol. Chairman Farrell: What's your Department's involvement in the Lost River mining project? Commissioner Noerenberg: We have attended a meeting or two and determined that there needn't be any great involvement on our part in view of the activity pattern there ...apparently there is no great problem to Fish and Game. The fish and wildlife is rated there as very minimal. Chairman Farrell: Were you involved with any discussions with -6- ----------------------- Page 34----------------------- the Administration or the Department of Highways prior to the state entering into that agreement with Alyeska? Commissioner Noerenberg: We've been actively engaged all the way along as a general thing in most activities. End of Commissioner Noerenberg's testimony. Questions directed to Mr. Livingston, Director of land use planning and Urban development in the Department of Environmental Conservation: Chairman Farrell: What is your involvement in the Lost River Mine Project? Mr. Livingston: Three of the head people of the Lost River Mine came and spent over three hours going over their programs with us. We also attended a meeting that they held in Commissioner Ryan's office. Basically, they have put together a very good program, they are in the process of putting together an environmental im- pact statement. They look for about 450 employees up there when they get going and they are basically very much opposed to • company housing. They've been dealing with the state and variouo/departments to see what they can do to set up a village there or a community which they have nothing what so ever to do with. Chairman Farrell: Do you have any written report or summary of the activity to date? What effect is it going to have on the environment in that area? -7- ----------------------- Page 35----------------------- Mr. Livingston: We have not put together any thing; we're waiting until such time as they submit their environmental impact statement. which they will probably have done within the next six months. Chairman Farrell: What kind of Departmental approval do they have to get to continue development in'the area or is it strictly a cooperation project? Mr. Livingston: Its cooperation. As long as they take care of their water and sewage and have their plans for disposal of their waste meet with our approval then all they need is our approval to go a- head and do the work. End of Mr. Livingston's testimony relating to the Lost River Mine Project. Other subjects were pursued briefly. Primarily, the discu ssion cen- tered around the Departments' standards for sewer systems and water. ~8- ----------------------- Page 36----------------------- RESOURCES COMMITTEE March 14, 1972 Marty Farrell, Chairman The meeting was called to order at 10:30 am in the House Conference Room. HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION III relating to: THE RENEWAL OF THE GOLD MINING INDUSTRY IN THE UNITED STATES After a brief discussion the bill was passed out of committee with a Do Pass recomendation. HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION 119 relating to: BLAIR LAKES BOMBING RANGE Representative Huber pointed out to the committee the area in- cluded in the Blair Lakes bombing range. Discussion centered around the construction of a new route in the range and the fact that this activity was being held from the public. Mr. Huber felt that the military should be responsible for clarifying the need for the new route and for any additional improvements to the range. Frank Jones, acting Director of the Game Division, offered statis- tical information to the committee. He stated that a new airstrip has been built on the range and that this would affect civilian air traffic. He also stated that, to his knowledge s the military has, to date, been exempt from providing environmental impact statements in areas of development. Mr. Huizer stated that the Department of Fish and Game supports the resolution. Three amendments were proposed. Representative Huber stated that the new route follows the Alaska Railroad survey line, not the Bonnefield Trail and asked that the resolution be amended to that effect. Mr. Tillion proposed the deletion of the words "Bonnefield Trail" on line 29 so that the resolution would include the cessation of all road construction to the range. The third amendment offered was to add Mr. Russell Train of the Environmental Protection Agency to the list of those designated to receive copies of the resolution. On a show of hands the resolution was passed out of committee with the recomendation that it be replaced with committee substitute for HJR 119. -1- ----------------------- Page 37----------------------- SENATE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION 5 urging: INCREASED RESTRICTION OF BROWN-GRIZZLY BEAR HUNTING Mr. Frank Jones of the Department of Fish and Game stated that, although he was in favor of decreasing the bag limit to one bear every five years, he felt that the resolution did not allow the Department enough flexibility. Further consideration of the resolution was postponed pending ad- ditional testimony. ($ee mlfu4.t"es ~cr( A-pn·(." ~I')y) SENATE JOINT RESOLUTION 53 relating to: STATE PARTICIPATION IN THE LAW OF SEAS CONFERENCE IN 1973 The committee decided to withhold consideration of the resolution until the Senate took action on a similar resolution introduced by the House. The meeting was adjourned at 11:45. -2- ----------------------- Page 38----------------------- RESOURCES COMMITTEE March 17, 1972 Marty Farrell~ Chairman The chairman called the joint meeting of the House and Senate Resources Committees to order at 8:00 am in the House Confer- ence Room. HOUSE BILL 704 SENATE BILL 355 relating to: CHUGACH STATE PARK Commissioner Herbert testified briefly, stating that,subsequent to the drafting of the bills, eight townships had been withdrawn by Native land selection, including Lake George. Ted Smith, Director of the Division of Parks, informed the committee members of a BLM land use study of the Campbell Creek area now in progress. He felt that until this study was complete, action to include this area in the park would be premature. He said the land has been declared excess by the Military, and feels that BLM's rec- commendation will be to include Campbell airstrip in the park. The inclusion of this area would allow access to the rest of the park, providing a natural corridor for the possible development of a snow mobile trail. In answer to a question raised by one of the members, Mr. Smith ex- plained that, in any event, the Commissioner could exercise his authority to delete up to 20% of the park if necessary, but this was subject to legisiative approval. Chairman Farrell felt that any decision regarding the park should be subject to public hearings. Commissioner Campbell stated that one area, if included, would give the park unmanageable boundaries. He would like to see a natural boundary such as the center of the creek. He also felt that any decision determining the use of large blocks of land should be sub- ject to review by the city and borough governments. He stated that, at this moment, no roads are being considered for the Campbell Creek area, but future plans could include that area since it was the only direction the city could grow. He did point out a corner section where a proposed highway would intersect the park. Commissioner Brewer said this area was critical to the Anchorage water supply, but that the park concept was compatible with water use. He felt that any decisions made for this area should anticipate future needs of the city and that local citizens should have an im- put in the decision making. Mrs. Rita Hendrickson and Mr. Roland Delpias of the Park and Recre- ation Council presented slides of the Campbell Creek area showing the various ways the area could be enjoyed as a park. They stated they had met with BLM officials who felt the land should be classified ----------------------- Page 39----------------------- Resources Committee Chugach State Park March 17, 1972 for "park and public purposes tl as they would be apprehensive about releasing the land without a proposed plan. In conclusion, they submitted a letter from Lieutenant Governor Boucher and letters from various organizations in Anchorage in favor of the bill. Carolyn Guess testified in favor of the bill and stated there was a need for cooperation between the Division of Lands and local units of government to plan park programs. Jack Hession, Alaska representative of the Sierra Club was in favor of the bill, but felt no legislative action should be taken until the BLM land use study is finished. He also felt that, in addition the BLM land use study, the state should also conduct a land use study. The chairman adjourned the meeting at 9:25 am. -2- ----------------------- Page 40----------------------- RESOURCES COMMITTEE March 22, 1972 Marty Farrell, Chairman The chairman called the meeting to order at 8:15 in the House Conference Room. HOUSE BILL 155 relating to: FISHERIES TAXES Mr. Parke, Director of the Collection Division of the Depart - ment of Revenue, appeared before the committee and r ev iewed two memorandums he had submitted to the committee. He stated that, if this bill were to become law, all fisheries products would be taxed at 4% . He explained that the tax percentage is determined in relation to the value of all fisheries products to the fisherman. He concluded by saying that this bill would repeal many antiquated law s . The new bill would eliminate the distinction between licenses; one license would then include all areas of fishing and production. Also, the bill would place a tax on all salmon eggs, where the existing law made it possible to collect only on a portion of the eggs . Due to a conflict in the scheduled use of the Conference Room, the meeting was adjourned at 9:15. Further consideration of HB 155 was he l d until March 23. ----------------------- Page 41----------------------- RESOURCES COMMITTEE March 30, 1972 Marty Farrell, Chairman The chairman called the meeting to order at 10:30 am in the House Conference Room. HOUSE BILL 718 creating: THE COMMISSION ON THE CONFERENCE OF THE LAW OF THE SEA Speaker of the House Gene Guess appeared before the committee to explain the purpose of establishing the Commission. He indicated concern that Alaska does not have a clear cut policy to present to the Law of the Sea Conference in Geneva and stated that it is vitally important for Alaska as a coastline state to present a "learned" position. He said that it is also important for Alaska to work with other coast~l zone states to present a unified policy. He further stated that the State Department's position is established on a military basis and that the state should develop a position deal- ing with the protection and/or development of coastal resources. Representative Peratrovich stated that the Commission could be in conflict with the Fisheries Division and urged support for HJR 89, a measure that allows for state participation at the Conference in an advisory capacity. In response to Mr. Peratrovich, Representative Farrell stated that Harold Hansen, Director of Internation Fisheries, indicated that the state should take action that compels a definite position at the Conference rather than attend in an advisory capacity, and Representa- tive Guess stated that the intent of the bill is to provide a vehicle in state government that will enable the establishment of such a position. He felt that the bill was not in conflict with HJR 89 but would serve to strenghten Alaska's position. A brief discussion ensued on the membership of the Commission. Many members felt that legislative representation should not be confined to the respective chairmans of the House and Senate Resources Com- mittees since other members of both Houses are perhaps more knowledgeable and could devote more time to the Commission. Representative Colletta suggested deleting lines 23 through 26 on page 1 and substituting "(1) a member of the House of Representatives appointed by the Speaker; (2) a member of the Senate appointed by the President;fI. Representative Huber suggested that a member of each Resources Commit- tee be appointed to the Commission since the subjects relating to the Conference are within the Committees' responsibility. Other members suggested that the Commissioner of the Department of Fish and Game and the Commissioner of the Department of Natural Resources be on the Commission. Representative Colletta stated that he opposed the addition of the Commissioners to the Commission. He felt that the Commission should include members who could serve full time. -1- ----------------------- Page 42----------------------- RESOURCES COMMITTEE Law of the Sea Conference March 30, 1972 In response to a question raised by one of the members, Commissioner Noer e nber g stated that the Department of Fish and Game has established some "stable principles" but does not have an all inclusive position. There bein g no further comments , Representative Colletta moved and aske d unanimouseonsent for the adoption of his proposed amendment. Nine memb e r s c oncurred. Representative Colletta moved and asked unanimous consent to report the bill out of committee with a Do Pass recommendation as amended. Seven members concurred. The meeting was adjourned at 11:55 am. -: - 2 - ----------------------- Page 43----------------------- RESOURCES COMMITTEE April 6, 1972 Marty Farrell, Chairman The chairman called the meeting to order at 8:00 am in the House Conference Room. HOUSE BILL 618 relating to: EXEMPTIONS FOR SPORT HUNTING FISHING AND TRAPPING LICENSES After a brief discussion and a review of the rather ambiguous letter from the Attorney General's office relating to the constitutionality of this measure, the committee decided to give it an unanimous Do Pass recommendation. FISH AND GAME BUDGET Mr. Vern Roberts, Director of the Division of Administration in the Department of Fish and Game appeared before the committee to discuss his organization's budget requests. In the course of the discussion the committee indicated that it was particularly concerned with cuts in two areas: (1) Most importantly, the $1.5 million cut from the capital budget which would have been utilized to construct a building in Anchorage within which all southcentral Fish and Game functions could have been brought under one roof. (2) A small but important cut was noted in the information and education budget as a consequence of the Governor's budget review committee requiring that a $5,000.00 deduction be applied to this request to take account of expected vacancies in turnover. Mr. Roberts indicated that since all positions in this particular section are now filled and since there appears little likelihood of personnel changes, that he felt such a deduction was unwarranted. If the expected vacancy in turnover does not material- ize the Department will find it necessary to reduce expenditures in other areas in order to meet salary and other continuing obligations. In addition to these matters the committee also questioned Mr. Roberts with regard to the legislation introduced at the request of Mr. Naughton which would provide for the acquisition of another resolution class to be used primarily for enforcement duties in the area west of Kodiak. The chairman indicated that this measure would be considered at a later date. ----------------------- Page 44----------------------- RESOURCES COMMITTEE April 7, 1972 Marty Farrell, Chairman The chairman called the meeting to order at 8:00 am in the House Conference Room. HOUSE BILL 614 relating to: BALD EAGLE HABITAT AREAS Mr. Skip Wallen showed a set of slides which depicted the Bald Eagle Habitat area in the vicinity of Haines, and pointed out the need for protection of this area. Mr. Specking observed that while the pressures imposed on this area by tourists and other visitors are not yet great, it is probable that they will soon develop along much the same pattern as has been observed at the McNeil River area on the Alaska Penninsula where hundreds of people now congregate to photograph the bears feeding on some spawning salmon. Mr. Wallen answered a number of questions from committee members with regard to the habitat area. Mr. Fred Robards of the United States Fish and Wildlife Service dis- cussed the original description of the Critical Habitat area and pointed out that had this proposal been adopted it would have pre- vented or at least sharply restricted access to a number of private parcels and would have encompassed the Klukwan community. The new description does not cross the highway, does not restrict access to private property, and is generally acceptable to the residents of the area. The new boundaries still encompass the most important salmon spawning areas and it is these that provide the critical Eagle habitat. Mr. Fred Eastaugh representing mining interests in the area indicated that his clients were originally opposed to the proposal but are now satisfied if the new description is adhered to. In response to a question from Mr. Holm, Morgan Reed, Representative from Haines, stated that the only change in existing use of the area resulting from the critical habitat designation would be a restriction on off the road vehicle use during October, November, December and January. The chairman indicated that he would direct the drafting of a committee substitute and bring this back for further consideration some time next week. The committee adjourned at 9:00am. ----------------------- Page 45----------------------- RESOURCES COMMITTEE April 14, 1972 Marty Farrell, Chairman The chairman called the meeting to order at 8:30 am in the House Conference Room. HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION 43 requesting: THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL TO STUDY LIMITED ENTRY FOR COMMERCIAL FISHERIES HCR 43 was reported out of committee with a unanimous Do Pass recom- mendation. HOUSE BILL 634 relating to: THE SALE OF CERTAIN STATE LANDS FOR AGRICULTURAL PURPOSES Representative Mcgill moved, asked and received unanimous consent to amend line 22 by inserting the words "each of" before the words "the 10 years following the purchase,", Representative McGill moved and asked unanimous consent to report HB 634 out of committee with a Do Pass recommendation. Nine members concurred. SENATE BILL 311am relating to: THE ISSUANCE OF COMMERCIAL FISHING LICENSES Representative Naughton moved and asked unanimous consent to report SB 311am out of committee with a Do Pass recommendation. Eight members concurred. HOUSE BILL 532 relating to: THE ISSUANCE OF COMMERCIAL FISHING LICENSES Unanimous consent was received for the adoption of the following amend- ments: Line 11, insert the word "gear" between the words "a license"; Line 12, reinsert the words [IN PERSON]; insert an effective date clause. Representative Huber moved, asked and received unanimous consent to report HB 532 out of committee with a Do Pass recommendation. ----------------------- Page 46----------------------- RESOURCES COMMITTEE April 18, 1972 Marty Farrell, Chairman The meeting was called to order at 8:30 am in the House Conference Room. HOUSE BILL 569 establishing: THE TRANSALASKA AUTHORITY AS A PUBLIC CORPORATION OF THE STATE Representative Swanson moved and asked unanimous consent for the adoption of the amendments submitted by the Attorney General's of- fice. Nine members voted in favor of the motion. Representative Swanson moved and asked unanimous consent to report CS for HB 569 out of committee with a Do Pass recommendation. The following members voted in favor of the motion: Representatives Farrell, Moore, Swanson, Peratrovich, Huber, Naughton, Flynn, and Reed. HOUSE BILL 769 relating to: THE PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION Representative Swanson moved and asked unanimous consent to report HB 769 out of committee with a Do Pass recommendation. The following members voted in favor of the motion: Representatives Farrell, McGill, Moore, Swanson, Huber, Peratrovich, Naughton, Flynn, and Reed. HOUSE BILL 770 relating to: LEASE OF RIGHTS-OF-WAY OVER STATE LAND FOR THE TRANSPORTATION OF OIL AND GAS WITHIN THE STATE Representative Swanson moved and asked unanimous consent to report HB 770 out of committee with a Do Pass recommendation. The following members concurred: Representatives Farrell, Swanson, Reed, Flynn, Huber, Naughton, and Peratrovich. ----------------------- Page 47----------------------- RESOURCES COMMITTEE April 19, 1972 Marty Farrell, Chairman The chairman called the meeting to order at 8:30 am in the House Conference Room. CS FOR HOUSE BILL 726 relating to: LEASING OF STATE LAND FOR THE PURPOSES OF OIL & GAS PIPELINE CONSTRUCTION & OPERATION & OIL & GAS EXPLORATION & PRODUC'l'ION Mr. Av Gross, special counsel for the Alaska Oil and Gas Association, stated that he favored the Committee Substitute for HB 726 over the original measure, reiterating, however, his belief that the concept of resident hire is unconstitutional. He felt that the bill was now "constitutionally sound" although the stipula.tions for resident hire outlined in the bill are at the "highest constitutional level". He stated that the bill is now more "positive and active". Representative Colletta pointed out that the bill refers only to the "major employer of the next few years", the oil industry, and suggested that the resident hire laws be expanded to include all employment re- lating to the development of natural resources. He stated that amending the bill to that effect would not interfere with the original intent of the measure. Mr. Roscoe Bell, representing BP Alaska, agreed with Mr. Colletta, stating that the incorporation of all natural resource development into the application of this measure would eliminate duplicate efforts in the future in regard to hiring practices. Representative Colletta drafted and proposed an amendment that would alter the specific reference to oil and gas development to include the development of all natural resources, i.e., on page 1, line 6, after the words "the leasing of state lands If, insert the words "for the purposes of Natural Resources development". Representative Col- letta moved the adoption of the proposed amendments, however, this motion was defeated. In response to a question raised by Representative Holm, Mr. Gross stated that the Department of Labor maintains a file on qualified Alaskan residents and that all potential employees should file with that Department. Representative Swanson moved to report CS for HB 726 out of committee with a Do Pass recommendation. Ten members concurred. ----------------------- Page 48----------------------- SENATE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION Sam urging: INCREASED RESTRICTION OF BROWN-GRIZZLY BEAR HUNTING Representative Specking stated that he was in favor of additional restrictions, particulary in Unit 9 (Alaska Pe;insula) where there is a high percentage of "mechanized hunting", He felt that the passage of th~s resolution would result in increased Fish and Game management efficiency. On a show of hands, the committee reported SCR Sam out of commit~ tee with a Do Pass recommendation. -2- ----------------------- Page 49----------------------- RESOURCES COMMITTEE April 21, 1972 Marty Farrell, Chairman The chairman called the meeting to order at 8:30 am in the House Conference Room. HOUSE BILL 747 relating to: THE WATER RESOURCES BOARD There being no questions regarding this measure, the committee passed the bill out of committee with a unanimous Do Pass recom- mendation. HOUSE BILL 749 relating to: THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION Commissioner Brewer and Mr. Anderegg, Director of the Division of Water and Air Quality Control, appeared before the committee to explain the purpose of amending statutes relating to the Department of Environmental Conservation. Mr. Anderegg stated that the main objective is to bring the state closer to federal requirements. Although the committee responded favorably to the bill, there were several amendments offered. Representative Holm made a motion to delete sec. 24, the definition of "industriA~l waste", on page 9. However, this motion was defeated. Representative Huber felt that the pollution factor of "50 parts per million" of oil residue was too high and moved to amend line 15, page 6 to read "15 parts per million" This motion was also defeated. The committee complied with a letter request from the Atto~ney Gen- eral's office by amending line 18 on page 6 to read "sec." rather than N secs .". The committee also amended lines 11 and 13 on page 9, changing the amount of time allowed, after receipt of a compliance order, for a person to apply for hearing to review that order from 10 days to 20 days. Representative Reed moved and asked unanimous consent to report HB 749 out of committee with a Do Pass recommendation. 11 members con- curred. HOUSE BILL 622 relating to: APPROVAL OF HIGHWAY CONSTRUCTION Commissioner Brewer testified in favor of the bill. He stated that the Department of Environmental Conservation is already reviewing some highway construction (not all due to lack of staff) through administrative agreement and th~the passage of this measure would solidify the agreement. ----------------------- Page 50----------------------- Representative Reed questioned whether this measure would be applicable to streets within cities and municipalities. Commissioner Brewer answered that his Department would review plans for the state highway system only. In response to another question, Commissioner Brewer stated that, if the bill is signed into law, additional funds would be needed to accomodate a staff increase of two persons. At Representative Huber!s suggestion, the committee decided to hold further consideration of HB 622 pending testimony from the Commissioner of the Department of Highways. The meeting was adjourned at 10:00 am. -2- ----------------------- Page 51----------------------- RESOURCES COMMITTEE April 24, 1972 Marty Farrell, Chairman The chairman called the meeting to order at 8:30 am in the House Conference Room. HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION 63 requesting; AN IMMEDIATE CHANGE IN THE METHOD OF ISSUANCE FOR SUBSISTENCE FISHING PERMITS FOR RED SALMON DIP NETTING/UPPER COPPER RIVER Mr. Ray Rickey, Director of the Division of Commercial Fisheries, stated that, by Board decision, the hours of operation at license check points would be from 8:00am to 5:00pm, June 1 through August 15. He said the offices would be flexible in accomodating people at odd hours. Representative Huber stated that extended operating hours does not relieve the burden to the fisherman of having to obtain permits in person. ;He suggested strongly that the Department work out a mailing system for the acquisition and return of permits. A short discussion ensued on the merits and problems of eliminating the present requirements. The committee decided to hold further consideration of HCR 63 pending additional testimony. HOUSE BILL 729 relating to: PARKS AND OPEN SPACE AREAS WITHIN CITIES, ORGANIZED BOROUGHS AND THE UNORGANIZED BOROUGH Commissioner Brewer testified in favor of the "concept" of the bill, but had reservations about the formula approach for extracting a percentage of land from a subdivision. He felt that requiring the establishment of a park within a certain distance from a subdivision might be a better approach and that another method should be used for determining size. Gregg Erickson, Administrative Assistant to the Resources Committee, offered to meet with the Department to work out a more viable formula for determining the amount of land needed for parks within a given area. During the discussion that followed Commissioner Brewer's testimony, Representative Tillion suggested that the owner of a subdivision be reimbursed for all land withdrawn for park purposes rather than for an amount exceeding 5%, as would be the case if the bill is enacted into law as presently written. The chairman suggested that further consideration of HB 729 be post- poned until Mr. Erickson had met with the Department of Environmentaj, -1- ----------------------- Page 52----------------------- Conservation. HOUSE BILL 614 relating to: THE CLASSIFICATION OF LANDS Chairman Farrell suggested that a committee substitute for HB 614 be drafted to include the new description of the Critical Habitat Area (presented to the committee on April 7). Unanimous consent was asked and received to adopt Committee Substitute for HB 614. Representative Specking then moved, asked and received unanimous consent to report HB 614 out of committee with the recom- mendation that it be replaced with CS for HB 614. The meeting was adjourned at 9:45 am. -2- ----------------------- Page 53----------------------- RESOURCES COMMITTEE April 25, 1972 Marty Farrell, Chairman The chairman called the meeting to order at 8:30 am in the House Conference Room. SENATE JOINT RESOLUTION 67 relating to: THE PROHIBITION OF CERTAIN FISHING VESSELS FROM AMERICAN WATERS Representative Huber pOinted! out that the Jones Act prohibits the commercial use of vessels weighing over 5 net tons and that most foreign vessels exceed this weight. He stated that the passage of this resolution would limit the "little guy" in obtaining new boats from Canada at lower prices than boats available in Alaska. He felt that a more appropriate measure would be one that prohibits outside fisherman from fishing in Alaskan waters. Representative Flynn stated that the purchasing of boats from Canada is expanding Alaska's fishing fleet, bringing down the fish per man ratio,. and felt that there should be additional restrictions. After a brief discussion on other problems relating to fishing, the committee moved the bill out of committee with no recommendation. The chairman announced that the committee would be considering SB 294 and SB 314, pipeline related legislation, sometime during the week of May 1 to May 5. The meeting was adjourned at 9:10 am. ----------------------- Page 54----------------------- RESOURCES COMMITTEE May 3, 1972 Marty Farrell, Chairman The chairman called the meeting to order at S:30 am in the House Conference Room. SENATE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION 37 relating to: THE DEPLETION OF GROUND WATERS Mr. Tillion, Representative from Homer, spoke briefly in favor of this measure since the Kenai Peninsula is specifically mentioned as an area of concern. Representative McGill moved, asked and received unanimous consent to report SCR 67 out of committee with a Do Pass recommendation. CS for SENATE BILL 51 relating to: CLASSIFICATION OF PUBLIC LANDS At Representative Holm's request, Vice Chairman McGill gave a brief description of the areas to be established as Critical Habitat Areas. Chairman Farrell made reference to the meeting of January 20, stating that several people testified in favor of the bill. Representative McGill moved and asked unanimous consent to report CSSB 51 out of committee with a Do Pass recommendation. Nine members concurred. HOUSE BILL S15 appropriating: TO THE DEPARTMENT OF LAW FOR A SPECIAL STUDY OF A LIMITED ENTRY FISHERY Chairman Farrell pointed out the change made for a Committee Substitute for HB S15. Whereas the original measure appropriates funds to the Department of Law for the purpose of flconducting" a study of limited entry fisheries, CSHB S15 substitutes the words "contracting for" a study of limited entry fisheries. -/- ----------------------- Page 55----------------------- CS FOR SENATE BILL 314 relating to: OIL AND GAS PIPELINES AND TO THE CREATION OF THE ALASKA PTPELINECOMMISSTON Representative Huber moved and asked unanimous consent for the adop- tion of House Committee Substitute for CS for Senate Bill 314. The following members voted in favor of the motion: Representatives Huber, Moore, Swanson, McGill, Farrell, Naughton, Tillion, Flynn, Specking, and Peratrovich. Those members opposed to the motion were Representatives Holm and Colletta. Representative Huber moved and asked unanimous consent to report HCS for CSSB 314 out of committee with a Do Pass recommendation. The record shows the vote to be the same as the vote taken on the previous motion. CS FOR SENATE BILL 294 relating to: LEASE OF RIGHTS-OF-WAY OVER STATE LAND FOR THE TRANSPORTATTON OF OIL AND GAS WITHIN THE STATE Representative Tillion moved and asked unanimous consent for the adop- tion of House Committee Substitute for CS for Senate Bill 294. The following members voted in favor of the motion: Representatives Huber, Moore, Swanson, McGill, Farrell, Naughton, Tillion, Flynn, Specking, and Peratrovich. Those members opposed to the motion were Representatives Holm and Colletta. Representative Naughton moved and asked unanimous consent to report HCS for CSSB 294 out of committee with a Do Pass recommendation. The record shows the vote to be the same as the vote taken on the previous motion. -2- ----------------------- Page 56----------------------- ----------------------- Page 57----------------------- April 28, 1972 RESOURCES COMMITTEE Page 1 of5 BILL NO. DATE PAGE TITLE SPONSOR FURTHER REFERRALS HOUSE BILLS HB 9 1/12 10 Plant Materials Center (Matanuska) Kerttula Finance HB 12 1/12' 11 Leasing Public Lands - Oil Kerttula Finance HB 13 1/12 11 Extension Oil and Gas-Lease Kerttula Finance HB 19 1/12 12 Dept. Environmental Affairs Bradner/4D Finance HB 23 1/12 13 Oil and Gas Product~?n Tax Kerttula Finance HB 28 1/12 14 Antlerless Moose Swnason/2D Judiciary HE 29 1/12 14 Poison Control Predatory Animals Swnason/2D Judiciary HB 33 t/12 14 Dept Agriculture Forestry & Parks Kerttula/lD,lR Finance HB 36 1/12 15 Arctic Animals - Closed Game Swanson Judiciary HB 74 4/14 846 Fish & Game, MV Resolution Rules/Gov. Recommitted HB 99 1/22 82 Snow Vehicles, Hunting Specking St. Affairs Judiciary HB 107 1/27 104 Dept Nat Res Appro Capt Cook Rec Fink Finance .l. ..__ 109 1/27 104 Hi2:-oric Preservation Rules/LC Finance HB 126 2/2 153 Hunting Areas/Highways :Specking Judiciary HB 146 2/8 186 Fish and Game Advisor~ Board Whittaker Judiciary HB l56 2/8 188 Fishery Development Corp Moses Finance HB 166 2/10 208 Fisn/Game Boards Separate Peratrovich Judiciary HB 169 2/10 209 Historical Sites Meland Finance HB 183 2/17 253 Litter Control Colletta Judiciary HB 190 2/18 263 Guide Licensing Degnan/4D Judiciary HB 203 2/19 273 Salmon Net Gear Licenses Whittaker Judiciary HB 230 3/1 323 Fisheries Development Ass't Whittaker Finance SSHB 233 4/15 856 Guiding Tillion/Req Judiciary HB 237 3/2 335 -Pub Land Law Review Comm Fink State Finance 1.>.. 241 3/3 345 Oil Pollution Damages M. Miller Judiciary HB 300 3/11 435 Commercial Fishing License Fee McGill HB 302 3/11 435 Guide Licensing Board Duties Huber/5D,lR HB 310 3/12 445 Req/Non-Resident Hunters McGill HB 325 3/18 505 _Right-of-Way Permits Fink Finance HB 327 3/18 506 Tax/Oil Via Certain Routes SVJanson Finance HB 331 3/19 518 Oil/Gas Production Tax Bowman Finance HB 333 3/22 533 Sale/Barter Fish Moore/ID HB 377 3/30 -621 -Tikchik State Park Farrell Finance ----------------------- Page 58----------------------- April 28,1972 RESOURCES COMMITTEE Page 2 of 5. FTLL NO. DATE PAGE TITLE SPONSOR FURTHER REFERRALS HOUSE BILLS Cont'd. HB 382 3/30 621 Fish ~nd Game Emergency Powers Huber Judiciary HB 386 3/31 635 Oil/Gas Pipeline Authority Swanson/1D State Affair Finance HB 392 4/5 681 Fisheries Marketing Division Whittaker Finance HE 419 4/13 822 Goethermal Resources Colletta/2D Finance of HB 420 4/13 823 Geothermal Resources!Act Colletta/2D Finance HB 421 4/13 823 Resources Education Service.1 Rules/Gov Finance HB 422 4/13 824 Resource Education/Appropriation Rules/Gov Finance HB 437 4/17 886 Disaster Relief Huber Finance HB 454 4/30 1092 Village Lands/Protection Rules/Gov HB 455 4/30 1093 Grant of State Lands Rules/Gov HB 500. '1/13 20 Fire Control/Dept Natural Res Ferguson/3D Finance HB 560 1/28 127 Alaska Leasing Board Rules/Pipeline Judiciary HB 567 2/1 150 State Housing Authority/Cons. Proj.Fink/1R State Affair HE 6~7 2/10/72 245 Oil/gas wells Rules/Pipeline HB 665 2/14/72 281 Dept. E~vironmental Cons./Appro. Naughton Finance HB 682 2/17/72 318 Right-of-Way Oil/Transportation Resources Comm Finance .~"_1iI~t.._§_§..9,,~?IJ:.Bl72 ..3 2 Q.~.~!]ima~ s, Cruelty HWE/Req Finance HB 703 2/25/72 385 Oil/Gas Transport1.ConUn Resources Comma Finance HB 704 2/25/72 385 Chugach Parf Resources/Req. / ~ HB 705 2/25/72 385 Fishing/Violations Resources/Req. Judiciary HB 714 3/1/72 422 Fish/License/Residency Rules/Req. Judiciary ,C'RB 729 3/9/72' 479 -·Parks in Cities State Affairs State Aff. ----------------------- Page 59----------------------- April 28,1972 RESOURCES COMMITTEE page 3 of 5 BILL NO. DATE PAGE TITLE SPONSOR FURTHER REFERRALS HOUSE BILLS con't. HB 754 3/22/72 56Q Fish & Game; Patrol Vessel Rules/Request Finance HB 762 3/27/72 600 Water/Sewer Systems Judiciary Finance , HB 766 3/29/72 617 Land Use Planning Ru1es/Req. Gov. HB 776 4/3/72 654 Marine Severance Tax Resources Finance HB 783 4/6/72 676 Oil/Gas properties Tax Ru1es/Req. Pipe- Finance line Committee HB 796 4/14/72 753 Land Use Plan. Comm. Supp. Rules/Req. Gov. Finance Appro. HB 797 4/14/72 754 land Use Plan. Comm. Appro. Ru1es/Req. Gov. Finance hJ...J 807 4/19/72 799 Game Preserves Resources/Req. HB 808 4/19/72 799 Antlerless Moose Ru1es/Req. Judiciary HB 815 4/24/72 860 Limited entry fish$ry Ru1es!Req. Gov. Finance HB 817 4/27/72 915 Oil/Gas Properties Tax Ru1es/Req. Gov. Finance ·HB 818 4/27/72 915 Camm. taking of Herring Resources ----------------------- Page 60----------------------- April ~r8 ,197 2 RESOURSES COMMITTEE page 4 of 5 BILL NO. . DATE PAGE TITLE SPONSOR FURTHER REFERRALS HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTIONS ::T-q ,31 2/23/71 296 Amending Constitution/Fish Rose/22D,7R Judiciary HJR 115 2/14/72 274 Amend1.Alaska Constitution Huber/lD,lR ' Finance ,. i HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTTONS {CR 33 2/14/72 273 Dev. Alaska's Mineral Resources Fischer/2D 1:CR 63 4/14/72 153 Fishing Permits/Copper River Resources ----------------------- Page 61----------------------- April 28, 1972 RESOURCES COMMITTEE page 5 of 5 BILL NO. DATE PAGE TITLE SPONSOR FURTHER REFERRALS SENATE BILLS <- .... 50am 3/22/71 531 Fish and Game Board Resources State Affairs CSSB .51 3/2/71 331 Public Lands Classification Resources Finance SB 203 4/14/71 839 Fish and Game Fees Finance CSSB243 2/14/72 265 Sale-of -State Lands' Resources am CSSB 294 4/20/72 814 Transportation of Oil & Gas Resources Finance am • CSSB 314 4/20/72 814 Alaska Pipeline-Commission Commerce Finance am CSSB 359 4/27/72 912 Fish and Game Inspection Resources/Req.-- am CSSB §~f 4/26/72 880 Joint St-Fed. Land Use Plan. Resources/Req.-- am Comm. SB 402 4/25/72 872 Protection of Fish and Game Resources/Req.Judiciary am SENATE JOINT RESOLUTIONS SJR 53 2/18/72 324 Law of Sea Conference Merdes/5D3R SJR 62 3/23/72 572 - Commending Military Fbnks. LG Committee am SJ rt 67 4/21/72 822 Fishing Vessels Prohibited . 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