ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                        January 30, 2017                                                                                        
                           3:30 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Cathy Giessel, Chair                                                                                                    
Senator John Coghill, Vice Chair                                                                                                
Senator Natasha von Imhof                                                                                                       
Senator Bert Stedman                                                                                                            
Senator Shelley Hughes                                                                                                          
Senator Kevin Meyer                                                                                                             
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
OIL PRODUCTION FORECAST METHODOLOGY OVERVIEW                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 30                                                                                                              
"An Act approving and ratifying the sale of royalty oil by the                                                                  
State of Alaska to Petro Star Inc.; and providing for an                                                                        
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED  SB 30 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB  30                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: APPROVAL: ROYALTY OIL SALE TO PETRO STAR                                                                           
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
01/20/17       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/20/17       (S)       RES, FIN                                                                                               
01/30/17       (S)       RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
JIM SHINE, Commercial Manager                                                                                                   
Division of Oil and Gas                                                                                                         
Department of Natural Resources (DNR)                                                                                           
Alaska Department of Natural Resources (DNR)                                                                                    
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided overview in support of SB 30.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ED KING, Special Assistant to the Commissioner                                                                                  
Alaska Department of Natural Resources (DNR)                                                                                    
POSITION STATEMENT:  Commented supportively  on SB 30  and helped                                                             
provide an overview of the oil production forecast methodology.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
DOUG CHAPADOS, President & CEO                                                                                                  
Petro Star, Inc.                                                                                                                
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported SB 30.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DAN STICKEL, Chief Economist                                                                                                    
Economic Research Group                                                                                                         
Alaska Department of Revenue (DOR)                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided an  overview of the  oil production                                                           
forecast methodology.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
PAUL DECKER, Petroleum Geologist and Manager                                                                                    
Resource Evaluation Section                                                                                                     
Division of Oil and Gas                                                                                                         
Alaska Department of Natural Resources (DNR)                                                                                    
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided an  overview of the  oil production                                                             
forecast methodology.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:30:22 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  CATHY   GIESSEL  called  the  Senate   Resources  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 3:30  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order   were  Senators   Stedman,  von   Imhof,  Hughes,   Meyer,                                                               
Wielechowski, and Chair Giessel.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        SB  30-APPROVAL: ROYALTY OIL SALE TO PETRO STAR                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:31:13 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL  announced SB  30 to be  up for  consideration. She                                                               
said  this  bill  cannot  be  amended since  it  is  ratifying  a                                                               
contract  for  royalty  oil  between  the  Alaska  Department  of                                                               
Natural  Resources (DNR)  and  Petro Star.  Last  year this  body                                                               
considered  and   ratified  the   contract  between   the  Alaska                                                               
Department of  Natural Resources  and Tesoro. She  explained that                                                               
Alaska's Constitution  mandates developing the resources  for the                                                               
maximum benefit of the people of  Alaska and when the state takes                                                               
its  royalty oil  in kind  (RIK)  it needs  to prove  that it  is                                                               
getting more money than it  otherwise would taking royalty in the                                                               
traditional means of in value (RIV).                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
JIM  SHINE,   Commercial  Manager,  Division  of   Oil  and  Gas,                                                               
Department  of  Natural  Resources (DNR),  Alaska  Department  of                                                               
Natural  Resources (DNR),  said he  would first  provide a  brief                                                               
overview  on the  contract ratification  process and  then review                                                               
the contract.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ED   KING,  Special   Assistant  to   the  Commissioner,   Alaska                                                               
Department of Natural Resources (DNR), introduced himself.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SHINE noted  that DNR  Deputy Commissioner  Mark Wiggin  was                                                               
available  on line  as well  as other  members of  the Commercial                                                               
Team who were involved in the negotiation with Petro Star.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He explained  that when the state  takes royalty it has  a choice                                                               
to receive it  in kind (RIK) - physical possession  - or in value                                                               
(RIV).  When it  elects  to  receive its  royalty  in value,  the                                                               
producers  ship, co-mingle,  and sell  the state's  royalty share                                                               
with  theirs and  remits the  state's  value to  it by  way of  a                                                               
check. When  the state elects  to receive RIK, the  state assumes                                                               
ownership over the  actual oil and the  DNR Commissioner disposes                                                               
of it  through sale  procedures described  in statute.  The state                                                               
has regularly sold  RIK to in-state refiners dating  back to 1979                                                               
with Mapco/Williams.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
The contract  that is before them  in SB 30 for  ratification has                                                               
gone  through  a thorough  public  review;  the preliminary  best                                                               
interest finding  (BIF) was out  for a 30-day public  comment and                                                               
no comments  were received.  A revised BIF  was presented  to the                                                               
Royalty Oil  and Gas Development  Advisory Board  (Royalty Board)                                                               
in August and  it considered the contract,  the presentation, and                                                               
the BIF and recommended unanimously  that the legislature approve                                                               
it.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:35:01 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SHINE  clarified that  there are two  contracts, and  the one                                                               
that is currently  in place is a one-year  contract commencing on                                                               
January 2017  for the sale  of royalty  oil to Petro  Star, which                                                               
does not require legislative  approval. Following the termination                                                               
of  that  contract  starting  in   January  2018,  the  four-year                                                               
contract  in SB  30  would  commence. The  state  will receive  a                                                               
combined  benefit from  the two  contracts of  $29 -  $37 million                                                               
more than  if it had  received the  same barrels over  those five                                                               
years in value.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL joined the committee.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL asked who is on the Royalty Board.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SHINE  replied that  the  Royalty  Board consists  of  eight                                                               
members:  three  commissioners  from the  Department  of  Natural                                                               
Resources (DNR)  who is  a non-voting  member, the  Department of                                                               
Revenue  (DOR), and  the Department  of  Commerce, Community  and                                                               
Economic  Development (DCCED),  as well  as five  public members:                                                               
Bruce  Anders  (Chair),  Dana   Pruhs,  Kathryn  Dodge,  Lawrence                                                               
Gaffaney, and Steve Selvaggio.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI asked  if  the lower  tariffs are  factored                                                               
into  the  $29  -  37  million  in  savings  from  the  increased                                                               
production in the  pipeline that would result in  more revenue to                                                               
the state.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHINE replied the $27 -  $37 million figure is spelled out in                                                               
the BIF.  The real benefit  is the difference between  the marine                                                               
transportation deduction,  which is present  in the RIV  net back                                                               
formula  versus  RIK net  back,  which  is an  in-state  location                                                               
differential, which he would describe later.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI asked  again if  that savings  figure takes                                                               
into  account the  lower  tariff that  would  result in  slightly                                                               
higher taxes to the state.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:38:12 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SHINE answered  that both RIK and RIV formulas  have a tariff                                                               
reduction  as  part of  the  net  back  formula. If  the  royalty                                                               
volumes  are coming  from Prudhoe  Bay, the  tariff is  from Pump                                                               
Station 1 to the Valdez  Marine Terminal. Tariffs from any fields                                                               
upstream  of Prudhoe  Bay would  include  transportation to  that                                                               
point.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:38:32 PM                                                                                                                    
However, before  taking RIK the  commissioner must find it  is in                                                               
the  state's best  interest. The  state  can dispose  of its  RIK                                                               
through  a   competitive  bid   process  or   a  non-competitive,                                                               
negotiated  sale  process.  The  DNR  issued  a  solicitation  of                                                               
interest  in  January  2015  to five  refineries  -  Petro  Star,                                                               
Tesoro, Flint  Hills, BP, and  ConocoPhillips - within  the state                                                               
to determine  market interest in  purchasing the  state's royalty                                                               
barrels.  The two  responses  it received  were  from Tesoro  and                                                               
Petro Star,  and last  year the  Tesoro negotiated  sale contract                                                               
was ratified. This  year the Petro Star  negotiated sale contract                                                               
is before them.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Based  on the  responses, it  was determined  that there  was not                                                               
enough competition  for a competitive  sale, Mr. Shine  said, and                                                               
while  Tesoro  agreed  immediately  to the  price  terms  in  the                                                               
solicitation,  Petro   Star  was  seeking  a   different  pricing                                                               
mechanism  that is  not as  advantageous  to the  state. At  that                                                               
point  the DNR  commissioner  determined that  a competitive  bid                                                               
sale was  not in the  state's interest and entered  into separate                                                               
negotiated sales.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
The first contract  in effect right now is less  than one year in                                                               
length  to relieve  market  conditions and  allow  Petro Star  to                                                               
secure its feed stock for refineries  in Valdez and North Pole in                                                               
the  near term  while also  negotiating a  long term  contract to                                                               
provide a  secure source  of supply for  the refineries  over the                                                               
next four years.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
He explained the reason for  having both contracts terminate near                                                               
the same  time in 2021  is because  at that point  the department                                                               
will have a  better sense of what royalty  volumes are available.                                                               
Historically, the state  has been able to enter  into 10-year RIK                                                               
sale contracts, but with declining  throughput and uncertainty of                                                               
what volumes would  be available, it's been  determined that five                                                               
year contracts are more accurate at this point.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:41:26 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SHINE said AS 38.05.183(e)  states that the commissioner must                                                               
sell the  state's royalty  oil to the  buyer who  offers "maximum                                                               
benefits  to the  citizens  of  the state,"  and  in making  this                                                               
determination, the commissioner must consider:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1. The cash value offered,                                                                                                      
2.  The projected  effects  of the  sale on  the  economy of  the                                                               
state,                                                                                                                          
3. The  projected benefits of  refining or processing the  oil in                                                               
state,                                                                                                                          
4.  The  ability of  the  prospective  buyer to  provide  refined                                                               
products for  distribution and  sale in the  state with  price or                                                               
supply benefits to the citizens of the state, and                                                                               
5. The eight  criteria listed in AS 38.06.070(a),  as reviewed by                                                               
the Royalty Board.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:42:08 PM                                                                                                                    
For approval  of an RIK  sale the DNR  must make a  Best Interest                                                               
Finding  (BIF)  in  support  of  the  sale.  In  this  case,  the                                                               
preliminary BIF was issued in July  2016 and the final was issued                                                               
in  September  2016.  DNR  presented the  proposed  sale  to  the                                                               
Royalty Board  on August  31, 2016, and  it unanimously  voted in                                                               
Resolution 2016-2  that the proposed  disposition of  ANS royalty                                                               
oil to Petro  Star meets the requirements of  AS 38.06.070. Prior                                                               
to finalizing the RIK contract,  the legislature must pass a bill                                                               
ratifying the contract with Petro Star (HB 70; SB 30).                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:42:58 PM                                                                                                                    
The  Royalty Board's  decision criteria  was listed  on slide  6.                                                               
Slide 7 had the actual contract terms:                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1-year contract:                                                                                                                
from 18,800 bpd to 23,500 bpd for Jan. 2017 -Dec. 2017                                                                          
4-year contract:                                                                                                                
     from 16,400 bpd to 20,500 bpd for Jan. 2018 -Dec. 2018                                                                     
     from 13,200 bpd to 16,500 bpd for Jan. 2019 -Dec. 2019                                                                     
     from 10,800 bpd to 13,500 bpd for Jan. 2020 -Dec. 2020                                                                     
     from 8,400 bpd to 10,500 bpd for Jan. 2021 -Dec. 2021                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHINE  explained that the  range is a minimum  nomination per                                                               
day  and  the high  number  would  be  the maximum.  The  numbers                                                               
decline over  the next  five years,  whereas the  Tesoro contract                                                               
last year had a static number of 20,000-25,000 barrels per day.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The Petro  Star contract is  meant to  give them as  much royalty                                                               
volume as  the state can project  to not exceed in  the next four                                                               
years.  Typically they  don't nominate  more than  95 percent  of                                                               
expected  royalty volumes  and so  the  Tesoro contract  combined                                                               
with  the Petro  Star contract  is about  95 percent  of expected                                                               
royalty  volumes  under contract  to  local  refiners within  the                                                               
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The net back formula provides a  higher revenue to the state over                                                               
RIV  that  uses  a  marine  transportation  deduction,  which  is                                                               
basically the  price to ship a  barrel of oil from  Valdez to its                                                               
destination   on   the   West  Coast.   The   in-state   location                                                               
differential  is a  deduction in  the net  back formula  meant to                                                               
represent the cost of a barrel of oil within the state.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:45:26 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  SHINE explained  that the  flexibility of  quantity provides                                                               
for a  three-month consecutive turnaround clause  in which either                                                               
refinery  may  nominate  below  its  minimum  range  for  planned                                                               
service  interruptions  for factory  upgrades,  de-bottlenecking,                                                               
and  efficiencies, which  is customary  in the  refining and  the                                                               
upstream oil and gas industry.  The reason the state doesn't want                                                               
to keep 5  percent of expected royalty oil is  to keep markers on                                                               
what the  marine transportation deductions  are and what  the net                                                               
back formulas look  like to ensure the department  is meeting its                                                               
statutory mandate to meet or exceed  royalty in value when the it                                                               
elects to  sell the state's royalty  in kind. If more  royalty is                                                               
available than  projected, additional volumes will  be offered to                                                               
both Petro  Star and  Tesoro on equal  terms consistent  with the                                                               
pricing mechanisms in each contract.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
He said that Petro Star has  filed a $46 million surety bond with                                                               
the state  as provided in the  one-year contract in the  event an                                                               
in-state refiner  or royalty purchaser defaults  (or denominates)                                                               
on  its  obligations  to  pay   the  state  for  royalty  already                                                               
delivered.  Both  contracts   encourage  commercially  reasonable                                                               
efforts  to manufacture  refined  products within  the state  and                                                               
promote  local  hire of  Alaska  residents  and contractors.  All                                                               
communications with Petro  Star have indicated that  they have no                                                               
intent to  do anything but  refine the products within  the state                                                               
for  local use  as jet  fuel,  home heating  fuel, and  ultra-low                                                               
sulphur diesel, to name a few.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:48:31 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SHINE  said the  RIK net  back formula is:  ANS Spot  Price -                                                               
$1.95 -Tariff Allowance +/-Quality Bank Adjustments -Line Loss.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
He explained that the ANS spot  price is a monthly average of the                                                               
daily average of the two  reporting agencies, Platts and Reuters.                                                               
The in-state  location differential  is deducted from  that $1.95                                                               
as well as the TAPS and  upstream tariffs to Pump Station 1. Then                                                               
there  are Quality  Bank adjustments  and a  small percentage  of                                                               
line  loss.  Line  loss  is   a  .09  percent,  industry-standard                                                               
deduction  from net  back  formulas that  is  meant to  represent                                                               
small  differences in  measurement  between  meters upstream  and                                                               
downstream as  well as  any loss in  product due  to evaporation,                                                               
friction,  ice  build-up, or  paraffin  as  is  the case  in  the                                                               
TransAlaska Pipeline System (TAPS).                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:50:00 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI said if you  take 20,000 barrels out of TAPS                                                               
he understands that  the tariff will go up  slightly for everyone                                                               
else who put  oil in the pipeline.  Then that in turn  is able to                                                               
be deducted from the production taxes  that are paid to the State                                                               
of Alaska,  which ultimately causes  a small loss for  the state.                                                               
He asked if that is factored into this.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:50:44 PM                                                                                                                    
ED  KING,   Special  Assistant,  Alaska  Department   of  Natural                                                               
Resources (DNR) answered that the  oil that is being delivered to                                                               
Tesoro  is presumed  to have  already been  produced and  shipped                                                               
through  TAPS  through  the  Petro Star  refinery,  so  it  would                                                               
already be calculated  into the tariff calculation.  If the state                                                               
weren't selling oil  to Tesoro the assumption is  that they would                                                               
be purchasing  the same volumes of  oil from someone else  and it                                                               
wouldn't have any net effect.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  said that  didn't answer his  question, but                                                               
they could discuss it afterwards.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL asked who puts  the calculation together and what                                                               
value that adjustment means at the end of the line.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SHINE answered  that the  Quality  Bank administrator  makes                                                               
those determinations,  which is  meant to measure  the difference                                                               
in value  of the  oil streams  into the  co-mingle point  and the                                                               
stream of oil  coming out in Valdez. So, adjustments  are made to                                                               
those entities who  are contributing a lower quality  of oil that                                                               
result in  a benefit to  the upstream  producer who has  a higher                                                               
quality product.  Those adjustments  can be made  as far  back as                                                               
eight years in this contract  when the Quality Bank administrator                                                               
or FERC makes a determination.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL  said that is interesting,  because this contract                                                               
has a huge variable.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHINE said that is the  reason for the eight-year tail in the                                                               
contract.  Even though  it is  a five-year  contract having  that                                                               
tail move  out eight years provides  the state with a  little bit                                                               
more  certainty that  if adjustments  were made  that they  would                                                               
benefit the state, too.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KING noted  that  the  Quality Bank  adjustment  is also  in                                                               
existence  if they  were to  take  RIV as  well as  RIK. So  this                                                               
contract has no actual effect on the value in that regard.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:53:36 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  SHINE continued  that  the  contract will  yield  $29 -  $37                                                               
million in  additional revenue  to the state  over what  it would                                                               
have received taking the same  barrels in value. The real benefit                                                               
between RIV and  RIK is really realized in  the in-state location                                                               
differential  and the  RIK net  back  formula as  opposed to  the                                                               
marine transportation deduction, which is  present in the RIV net                                                               
back  formula. The  marine transportation  deduction for  FY17 is                                                               
somewhere  in the  $3.30-$3.40/barrel  range and  is expected  to                                                               
move up  by about 10  cents per year until  2021 when it  will be                                                               
about  $3.70/barrel. The  static  $1.95 RIK  differential in  the                                                               
current  contract as  well as  the Tesoro  contract is  where the                                                               
state is getting  the most benefit from the sale  of royalty over                                                               
RIV.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
The value realized by the different contracts is:                                                                               
      1-year contract (Jan. -Dec. 2017): from $7.6 to $9.5                                                                      
     million                                                                                                                    
     4-year contract (Jan. 2018 -Dec. 2021): from $22.3 to                                                                      
     $27.9 million                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:55:04 PM                                                                                                                    
He explained that some of  the criteria that the commissioner and                                                               
the Royalty  Board consider  are the  impacts to  local economies                                                               
and local hire; and Petro Star  provides benefits to the state in                                                               
terms of employment, its in-state  refining capabilities, as well                                                               
as providing ultra-low  sulphur diesel, jet fuel,  and asphalt to                                                               
local economies. He presented a  comparison of the volumes of the                                                               
two contracts  on slide 10  and said  he was available  to answer                                                               
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL asked if he had any objections to this contract.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHINE  answered no and  no public comments were  received; no                                                               
adverse comments were presented at the Royalty Board.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:56:09 PM                                                                                                                    
DOUG  CHAPADOS, President  & CEO,  Petro  Star, Inc.,  Anchorage,                                                               
Alaska,  thanked  the DNR  Division  of  Oil  and Gas  for  their                                                               
efforts and past and present  commissioners for the work they had                                                               
done  in getting  this contract  in place.  These are  critically                                                               
important contracts  for their company, because  without oil they                                                               
are out  of business.  With the decline  of TAPS  throughput they                                                               
have found  it more and more  difficult to source crude  oil from                                                               
producers on the North Slope.  Being a consistent source of crude                                                               
in the  future, the state  has brought  Petro Star back  and they                                                               
look forward to refining this  oil and making products for Alaska                                                               
consumers.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL commented  that  the investment  Petro Star  had                                                               
made was immediately beneficial to the  North Pole area and he is                                                               
very grateful.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:57:59 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MEYER asked  if it matters to him or  the refinery if the                                                               
oil is heavy or light, or what the gravity or sulphur rate is.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. CHAPADOS said  they like to see higher quality  crude oil and                                                               
Petro Star refineries  are designed to process a  barrel of crude                                                               
in a very simple way. They  like to see lots of middle distillate                                                               
materials in  the crude:  kerosene, jet  fuel, and  diesel fuels.                                                               
That allows  them to retain  more from each barrel  they process.                                                               
Typically  they retain  25-30 percent  of each  barrel that  they                                                               
process and  the balance is  returned back to the  pipeline. That                                                               
is where  this Quality Bank  liability is generated,  because the                                                               
oil they  return is considered  to be  of lower quality  than the                                                               
balance  of the  oil that  is being  shipped through  TAPS. Crude                                                               
from the Alpine  Field is an example of a  lighter crude oil that                                                               
has a high concentration of jet fuel range material in it.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER asked if he gets to choose which oil he gets.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. CHAPADOS  answered he wished  he could, but they  are subject                                                               
to whatever is being shipped  through TAPS, which is a co-mingled                                                               
stream from  all the  fields. Over  time the  quality of  the oil                                                               
increases and decreases;  it's at a good point  now between those                                                               
that are coming on line and those that are declining.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:00:20 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MEYER  said he  had heard that  pipeline oil  is becoming                                                               
heavier, so  it is encouraging to  hear that CD-5 and  the Willow                                                               
discovery have high gravity rates.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. CHAPADOS responded  that he believes that the  new fields are                                                               
of reasonably good quality.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:01:13 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. CHAPADOS said Senator Wielechowski  questioned whether or not                                                               
the sale  of this royalty  oil to  Petro Star would  increase the                                                               
tariff rates  for the  remaining barrels  that are  being shipped                                                               
through TAPS,  and the  very quick  and simple  answer is  no. He                                                               
explained that  prior to the  state royalty oil  contracts, Petro                                                               
Star  was buying  oil from  another North  Slope producer.  Those                                                               
barrels were  being shipped  through TAPS  just as  these barrels                                                               
will be. So, at  the end of the day, it's really  a zero net gain                                                               
in terms of  how many barrels are being shipped  through TAPS and                                                               
where it's being shipped to.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:02:20 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL  opened public testimony, and  finding none, closed                                                               
it.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL moved to report  SB 30, labeled 30-GS1873\A, from                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations  and attached  fiscal                                                               
note(s). There were no objections and it was so ordered.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:03:05 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
^Oil Production Forecast Methodology Overview                                                                                   
          Oil Production Forecast Methodology Overview                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
4:05:32 PM                                                                                                                  
CHAIR GIESSEL called  the meeting back to order  and announced an                                                               
overview of the oil production  forecast methodology. Before them                                                               
is the fall forecast and  explained that the Revenue Sources Book                                                               
is like  a paper version of  the state's accounts and  check book                                                               
telling them how  much money is coming in to  pay for government.                                                               
For  petroleum the  state  forecasts  the price  of  oil and  the                                                               
production each  year. These two  inputs form a  calculation upon                                                               
which the budget is based. It is  a forecast and some would say a                                                               
guess,  but it  is based  on a  scientific method,  but it's  not                                                               
infallible. Over  the last 10 years  this calculation methodology                                                               
has changed  in an effort  to more accurately predict  the trends                                                               
of the  state's oil field activities,  and it is in  the interest                                                               
of  the  members  of  this   committee  and  the  legislature  to                                                               
understand this  methodology, its terms  and the changes  made to                                                               
it. She invited Mr. Stickel who  will explain how it works in the                                                               
context of the Revenue Sources Book.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DAN  STICKEL, Chief  Economist, Economic  Research Group,  Alaska                                                               
Department of  Revenue (DOR),  said he would  talk about  how the                                                               
production forecast  is used, some  of the recent history  of the                                                               
production  forecasting  process,  and  what  the  roles  of  the                                                               
Department of  Revenue (DOR) and Department  of Natural Resources                                                               
(DNR)  were in  this year's  production forecast.  He would  also                                                               
present the  forecast overview and then  hand it over to  DNR for                                                               
more of the technical discussion.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:07:54 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  STICKEL said  the  production  forecast is  one  of the  key                                                               
inputs into  the revenue forecast  along with oil price  and cost                                                               
of production - into the  production tax and royalty forecast, in                                                               
particular, but also  to a lesser extent to the  property tax and                                                               
corporate  income   tax  forecast.  This  is   important  because                                                               
petroleum  revenue  provided  72 percent  of  unrestricted  state                                                               
revenue in  FY16 and is forecast  to provide about 70  percent of                                                               
unrestricted  revenue  over  the   next  decade.  The  production                                                               
forecast  is also  a  key source  of  information the  department                                                               
provides to policy makers, industry, and the public.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:09:01 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  STICKEL said  for the  last 30  years the  DOR has  hired an                                                               
outside consultant  to produce its production  forecast, and that                                                               
was the case through 2016.  However, realizing that DOR forecasts                                                               
were being  over-optimistic a risk  factor was added in  the fall                                                               
2012  that   basically  included  only  a   portion  of  expected                                                               
production from  new fields. So,  a lot of  the work the  DNR has                                                               
done this  year built on  adding uncertainty to the  forecast. In                                                               
fall  2016,  the  over   $100,000/year  consultant  contract  had                                                               
expired and  the department decided  not to  renew it and  to use                                                               
in-house expertise instead.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:10:17 PM                                                                                                                    
In hopes  of providing better  information to policy  makers, the                                                               
department began  applying risk  factors in 2012  to new  oil and                                                               
new  fields that  only incorporated  a portion  of that  expected                                                               
production into the revenue forecast.  And from fall 2012 to 2015                                                               
the actual production came in a lot closer to their forecast.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:11:27 PM                                                                                                                    
The chart on slide 7 adds  the fall 2016 forecast to the previous                                                               
two charts. For the next several  years the fall 2016 forecast is                                                               
in the range  of where the production forecast  has been recently                                                               
but slightly  higher in  the out  years, which has  to do  with a                                                               
change  in the  risking methodology  (moving from  a single  risk                                                               
factor to evaluating risk on a project-specific basis).                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:12:05 PM                                                                                                                    
The chart on slide 8 addresses what  the roles of DOR and DNR are                                                               
in  the  forecast  process.  DNR has  done  everything  that  the                                                               
consultant  previously   did  for   the  DOR.  They   review  the                                                               
production surveys  and plans  of development  that come  in from                                                               
the companies and create the  forecasting model. And they deliver                                                               
to DOR  a forecast of  barrels of  oil per day  pool-by-pool. One                                                               
key  difference  this  year  is   that  that  forecast  was  done                                                               
probabilistically,  which  allows them  to  look  at a  range  of                                                               
possible  production  levels  and  outcomes  for  each  field  as                                                               
opposed  to   the  previous   consultant's  forecast   that  just                                                               
delivered a one-point estimate for oil production.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The DOR  actually publishes  the forecast  and creates  a revenue                                                               
forecast out of it. They  conduct the surveys and interviews with                                                               
the oil  companies and find out  what their plans are  and update                                                               
the  DOR tax  database system  that goes  back to  DNR as  one of                                                               
their  inputs  for their  forecast.  A  high  level view  of  the                                                               
production forecast is in the fall 2016 Revenue Sources Book.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:13:21 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL asked if the consultant was one person.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. STICKEL answered yes; he was  Frank Molly, an engineer out of                                                               
Colorado,  who had  developed proprietary  production forecasting                                                               
software.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL asked  what kinds of things his  software took into                                                               
account that differ from DOR's.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:14:45 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. STICKEL replied that his  forecasting methodology had several                                                               
differences that a DNR slide  compared side-by-side. He explained                                                               
that the first  slide was the familiar  production mountain chart                                                               
showing North  Slope peak production  in 1988 at about  2 million                                                               
barrels a  day. Since  then with a  couple small  exceptions, the                                                               
first  being the  start  of Alpine  in the  early  2000s and  the                                                               
second being last year, production  has been on a downward trend.                                                               
Last  week  it averaged  about  560,000  barrels per  day.  Their                                                               
forecast anticipates  modest 4 percent declines  through the next                                                               
decade  with the  majority of  oil  still coming  from the  major                                                               
fields of Prudhoe Bay, Kuparuk and Coleville River Units.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
In  putting   the  production  forecast  together,   Mr.  Stickel                                                               
explained  that the  DOR looks  at production  in four  different                                                               
categories:  currently producing  (CP)  (including an  assumption                                                               
for  some background  drilling work),  volumes under  development                                                               
(UD) (any  new fields expected  to come  on line within  the next                                                               
year as well as any work  in the existing fields above and beyond                                                               
the baseline  level of  development). An  example in  the current                                                               
forecast  category is  the continued  build  out of  CD-5 in  the                                                               
Coleville River  Unit. Then  there is  the under  evaluation (UE)                                                               
category (new  fields expected  to produce within  2 -  5 years);                                                               
some  examples  are  additional   developments  at  Oooguruk  and                                                               
Kuparuk, Mustang, and  Greater Moose's Tooth Unit  in the NPR-A).                                                               
Anything  that doesn't  fall into  those  three categories  falls                                                               
within the  fourth category (oil  with an expected start  date of                                                               
five  years or  greater or  with different  types of  uncertainty                                                               
regarding   financing,   permitting,    economics   or   resource                                                               
definition); some examples are Pikka,  Smith Bay, and Willow. The                                                               
official  forecast is  the sum  of those  categories. However  90                                                               
percent is in  the currently producing category, a  few are under                                                               
development  (about  5,000 barrels  a  day  in 2018),  and  about                                                               
30,000 barrels a day are under evaluation oil.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:17:50 PM                                                                                                                    
In developing the fall 2016  forecast model, Mr. Stickel said DNR                                                               
used a "probabilistic  analysis," which allows them  to examine a                                                               
range of  possible values. In  addition to giving DOR  a baseline                                                               
official forecast they  also give them a high  case (P-10), which                                                               
means  they  believe based  on  the  given  activity set  in  the                                                               
forecast there  is a 10  percent chance that oil  production will                                                               
come in at  that level or higher. They also  give them a low-case                                                               
(P-90) forecast,  which means  there's a  90 percent  chance that                                                               
oil production will come in at  that level or higher. These cases                                                               
are  based on  those fields  included in  the forecast  and don't                                                               
include the new fields.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:19:11 PM                                                                                                                    
Another chart  shows what the  official, low, and high  case look                                                               
like for the  fall forecast. The official one  has oil production                                                               
declining to about 331,000 barrels per  day by 2026; the P-10 and                                                               
P-90 range is plus or minus 40,000 barrels a day.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Slide 15 is  the same information in table format  and comes from                                                               
page 37  of the  Revenue Sources Book.  In addition  to providing                                                               
the raw numbers  behind that chart, it also  provides an estimate                                                               
of that production  that qualifies for the  gross value reduction                                                               
(GVR), which  is an  incentive under the  production tax  law for                                                               
qualifying new oil. He noticed  that the GVR-eligible oil goes to                                                               
zero by the  end of the forecast as it  changed from the previous                                                               
book, the reason being HB 247  passed in the last legislature and                                                               
it implemented phasing-out oil qualifying for that provision.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:19:58 PM                                                                                                                    
The chart on slide 16 was  a comparison of the fall 2016 forecast                                                               
to the previous spring 2016  forecast, the last forecast produced                                                               
by the previous  consultant, reduces production a  little bit for                                                               
the next several  years. The reasons are reduced  drilling in the                                                               
company plans  of development,  as well  as reduction  in company                                                               
spending.  Getting  into  the  long-term  2024  and  beyond,  the                                                               
production  forecast is  actually a  little bit  higher than  the                                                               
previous forecast.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:20:36 PM                                                                                                                    
On a  final note, DOR made  a seasonal adjustment to  the current                                                               
year  production  forecast  from information  DNR  provided.  The                                                               
department's  revenue models  are on  a monthly  basis. So,  they                                                               
created a  seasonally adjusted forecast  by taking the  total DNR                                                               
production forecasted for  FY17 and allocated that  out among the                                                               
months in  the fiscal year  based on what seasonality  has looked                                                               
like for the last several years.  When that was done there was no                                                               
change to the total numbers  in their forecast. In addition, when                                                               
they  put  their  revenue  forecast  together  in  September  and                                                               
October they actually  had two more months of  actual data, which                                                               
brought the forecast up a little bit.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GIESSEL  asked if  the  consultant  would have  taken  the                                                               
Willow and Pikka discoveries into account.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. STICKEL replied  that they would have left  them out, because                                                               
the  Willow   announcement  came  out  after   the  forecast  was                                                               
completed. Pikka was  left out of the spring  forecast because at                                                               
the  time it  didn't meet  the level  of certainty  needed to  be                                                               
included  in the  forecast yet.  Both will  be evaluated  for the                                                               
next forecast.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:23:29 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MEYER said  one of  the frustrations  they must  have in                                                               
trying  to predict  future production  is the  permitting process                                                               
that could take many years,  especially at the federal level, and                                                               
asked if that  is why they have  a high and a  low case scenario.                                                               
He gave the ConocoPhillips CD-5 project as an example.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. STICKEL said  he would let DNR speak to  how that uncertainty                                                               
is   incorporated  into   the   forecast,   but  permitting   has                                                               
contributed to  some of the  over-forecasting in years  past with                                                               
CD-5 being a great example.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER  remarked that President  Trump has  indicated that                                                               
he hopes to  expedite permits and eliminate  some regulations, so                                                               
maybe it will get better.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL  thanked them  and invited  the next  presenters to                                                               
come forward.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:25:03 PM                                                                                                                    
PAUL   DECKER,   Petroleum   Geologist  and   Manager,   Resource                                                               
Evaluation Section,  Division of  Oil and Gas,  Alaska Department                                                               
of Natural Resources  (DNR), said several members  of his section                                                               
worked  alongside  Jim Shine  and  his  section to  generate  the                                                               
forecast.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:25:34 PM                                                                                                                    
ED   KING,  Special   Assistant  to   the  Commissioner,   Alaska                                                               
Department of Natural Resources (DNR),  said prior to this job he                                                               
worked with the commercial group in  the Division of Oil and Gas.                                                               
Prior to  that in 2012/13 he  was a petroleum economist  with the                                                               
DOR; his primary task was to work on the production forecast.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:26:08 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  KING   said  DNR  took   over  the   production  forecasting                                                               
assignment this year  and that he kept his  DOR relationship very                                                               
close.  Now  production  forecasts   are  done  in-house  by  DNR                                                               
independent of  all prior  forecasts. This is  the first  time it                                                               
has been  done exclusively  by the  department. They  didn't take                                                               
last year's  forecast and make  adjustments to it;  they actually                                                               
took  data and  generated a  new independent  forecast, the  goal                                                               
being  to make  the most  accurate forecast  that they  could. In                                                               
reviewing some  of the  historical forecasts  that had  been made                                                               
and  his  experience  with  the  process, he  made  a  couple  of                                                               
adjustments.   They  also   wanted  to   make  sure   that  their                                                               
methodology  is scientifically  rigorous as  it could  be -  data                                                               
driven,  empirical,  and  defensible.  They do  not  believe  the                                                               
forecast is  conservative and there  was no  intent to be;  it is                                                               
realistic and it is based in real data.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:28:06 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. KING  acknowledged that there  is a difference  between their                                                               
forecast and  the last  one. There is  lower production  once the                                                               
available information was  put in. A lot of  the lower production                                                               
level  is  being  driven  by  the  producers'  reduced  plans  of                                                               
operations  (a change  in behavior  as  opposed to  methodology).                                                               
They also acknowledge a cross-over  point that is a by-product of                                                               
the  change  in methodology.  Whereas  the  previous method  used                                                               
increasing  and  escalating  decline  rates to  get  rid  of  new                                                               
production, he  used a probabilistic approach,  which spreads the                                                               
barrels out  instead of removing  them from the forecast.  So, in                                                               
future years  one sees less  of a  penalty on the  risking method                                                               
that was previously adopted.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL  said in  2016 there were  over 500,000  barrels of                                                               
production  a  day   and  asked  why  he  is   starting  FY18  so                                                               
precipitously below that.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING answered  to begin with, FY18 will begin  in this coming                                                               
summer,  but they  do have  six  months of  production for  FY17,                                                               
which isn't quite  on this graph, but on the  next one which gets                                                               
to her point that current  production is actually higher than the                                                               
forecast. And while the department  is really excited about that,                                                               
it doesn't want to be overly  optimistic because of the fact that                                                               
turnarounds still  have to happen in  the summertime, maintenance                                                               
is going  to take production off-line,  and the last year  or two                                                               
have had  less investment after  the price  of oil fell.  They do                                                               
expect  that oil  production is  going to  decrease and  that the                                                               
flattening will not continue.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
He also  pointed out that the  production forecast is due  to the                                                               
DOR  by  October,  which  means  DNR  instigated  the  production                                                               
forecasting process in  August and the last data they  had for it                                                               
was  from June.  The  data  that was  used  to  develop the  2017                                                               
forecast  didn't  use any  data  after  June  of 2016.  This  was                                                               
because data  needs to be  static in  order to do  the production                                                               
forecast, and if they were  continuing to update the forecast, it                                                               
would be like  starting over every month. June 30,  2016, was the                                                               
data cutoff  and then  the forecast was  released. They  now have                                                               
seven more months of data, and it does look promising.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEDMAN asked what the  final date was for actual figures                                                               
used in the spring forecast.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING  answered that  they are  currently in  discussions with                                                               
the  DOR  on how  the  spring  forecast  is  going to  look,  but                                                               
historically the  consultant has not instituted  another forecast                                                               
well-by-well using new data.   He replaced the forecast data from                                                               
June through March  with actual data and that is  the process DNR                                                               
will probably use  this spring. The next fall  forecast will take                                                               
into account  the new  data that  does exist as  well as  the new                                                               
discoveries that have recently been announced.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
He also  pointed out that  the 10,000-or-so barrels in  excess of                                                               
the 2017 forecast amount to $20-30 million more to the state.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:33:10 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. KING  hit the  highlights again saying  they developed  a new                                                               
forecast methodology  that is an  improvement over the  change in                                                               
methodology  that happened  in  2012 when  the  risk concept  was                                                               
introduced.  It uses  probabilistic approaches,  which honor  the                                                               
uncertainty, as well, that result  in a range of future scenarios                                                               
rather  than just  one.  He  also pointed  out  that the  10-year                                                               
forecast  is  about a  4  percent  decline and  historically  the                                                               
decline on the  North Slope has been about 5.5  percent. It's not                                                               
conservative.  Rather by  employing this  probabilistic approach,                                                               
the  DOR  can  run  different scenarios  through  its  model  and                                                               
generate different revenue  scenarios to get a  range of possible                                                               
outcomes  in  terms  of  revenue rather  than  just  a  one-point                                                               
estimate.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Finally, the price  dependency in the forecast  is very important                                                               
as an improvement  to the process as the  distribution around the                                                               
forecast  can be  used to  inform DNR's  model of  how production                                                               
will respond to the price  environment it is projecting. That has                                                               
never been done in the past.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:35:41 PM                                                                                                                    
In 2012, Mr. King said, when he  was at the DOR, one of his first                                                               
tasks in doing production forecasting  was looking at the history                                                               
of how  things had been  done in the past.  The chart on  slide 8                                                               
caught his  eye as something  that needed  to be fixed.  Said the                                                               
production  forecasts  back  in   the  early  2000s  were  overly                                                               
optimistic as the  decline rates are really flat,  but year after                                                               
year as  production forecasts  were updated  the laws  of physics                                                               
took precedence  over that  optimism. That is  not the  way super                                                               
giant oil fields produce; they tend to decline.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:36:44 PM                                                                                                                    
Using  a shooting  analogy  on  slide 9  he  explained the  first                                                               
column on the left represents all  of the forecasts one year into                                                               
the future and the "shot group"  or the cluster of data is pretty                                                               
good, which means there is not  a lot of volatility or deviation;                                                               
it's also  fairly close to target.  Moving to the right  one sees                                                               
years forward or  a farther-out target, and  when you're shooting                                                               
at a  farther target it's a  lot harder to get  consistency. Part                                                               
of  that is  because more  variables are  involved (price  of oil                                                               
changes  and  permitting  issues),  but   it  also  might  be  an                                                               
opportunity  to improve  the  technique  (breathing technique  in                                                               
shooting,  continuing the  analogy). Their  goal was  to both  to                                                               
make the aim more accurate and to fix their technique.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL  said that was  a pretty logical  conclusion, but                                                               
she still questioned his December  forecast that used actual data                                                               
up to June 2016 that is pretty far-off already.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING replied  even though it appears to be  a fairly sizeable                                                               
deviation, in reality  it is only about 2  percentage points off,                                                               
which  is pretty  good  for  forecasting. They  used  all of  the                                                               
available data and tried not to use any subjectivity.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. DECKER  pointed out  that their forecast  did not  attempt to                                                               
quantify  seasonality  effects. The  cause  of  the deviation  on                                                               
slide  5 is  because of  the production  increases in  the winter                                                               
months.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:41:40 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL said she appreciated those variables.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:42:00 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. KING  explained that a lot  of what they are  seeing over the                                                               
last  year and  into the  beginning of  this fiscal  year is  the                                                               
result of  investment that  happened in  2013/14 in  Shark Tooth,                                                               
Kuparuk,  and  CD-5,  and  Point Thompson  came  on  line.  Also,                                                               
maintenance issues  happened in Prudhoe  Bay the prior  year that                                                               
didn't have to happen this  summer, and those fixes actually were                                                               
very  productive.  What  is  being  seen now  is  the  result  of                                                               
investment that  occurred before the  price of oil fell  by half.                                                               
Since then,  investment level  has not  kept on  par, and  in the                                                               
next  coming months  and  years reduced  production  will be  the                                                               
result of  this lack of  investment. It  might happen as  soon as                                                               
this summer.  He said their 2017  forecast was based on  the full                                                               
fiscal year  of 2016 without  using any actual  production months                                                               
of fiscal  year 2017.   Moving forward  through the rest  of this                                                               
fiscal  year,  the expected  annual  average  of 550,000  barrels                                                               
probably won't be met.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:43:20 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL said the previous  methodology included a gathering                                                               
of  experts  and  producers  who  provided  them  information  on                                                               
investments  being  made.   She  asked  how  much   of  that  was                                                               
confidential and  included in  this forecast  and to  what extent                                                               
that process was followed this year.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KING replied  that DOR  was allowed  to continue  their past                                                               
process  by which  they met  with  the producers  and asked  them                                                               
specific  questions about  their  investments.  They then  shared                                                               
what  they could  of that  information  that wasn't  confidential                                                               
with DNR. Their forecast used  as much publicly available data as                                                               
possible  including  the plans  of  development  provided by  the                                                               
operators  and   Alaska  Oil  and  Gas   Conservation  Commission                                                               
(AOGCC)'s data for  actual production rates, very  similar to the                                                               
way  DOR's  consultant  had  done  in the  past  (using  his  own                                                               
subjective  assessments).   After  talking  to  Mr.   Molly,  the                                                               
consultant, DOR  would talk to  the producers and  ask clarifying                                                               
questions.  That introduced  a degree  of subjectivity  which the                                                               
state  wanted  to  remove. So,  the  operator's  information  was                                                               
definitely considered, but they didn't rely on it.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:45:20 PM                                                                                                                    
He said the very glaring reality  is that looking into the future                                                               
of a  development that is meant  to come into production  five or                                                               
more years  into the future  almost always resulted in  some form                                                               
of delay.  For example, in 1997  Liberty was supposed to  come on                                                               
line in  2002, but  that production still  has not  occurred, and                                                               
that field  has entered into and  out of the forecast  many times                                                               
over the  last 20 or 30  years. For that reason,  because so many                                                               
things  can change,  they elected  not to  include anything  that                                                               
wasn't anticipated  to come into production  within the five-year                                                               
window.  It  is considered  imprudent  to  include that  kind  of                                                               
development into the  revenue forecast right now  until it's more                                                               
certain.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:46:27 PM                                                                                                                    
In  2012, the  DOR started  introducing some  risk factors,  thus                                                               
reducing  some  production from  future  developments,  and if  a                                                               
development was forecast to come  into production five years from                                                               
now at 100,000  barrels, the DNR would hit it  with a risk factor                                                               
and  then  only  include  a  portion  of  those  barrels  in  the                                                               
forecast. This was an improvement  over prior methods that didn't                                                               
use any risking whatsoever.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING said he uses this  technique because it is quick, but it                                                               
is not  considered the best  practice in risk management  and the                                                               
department wants to  move to a Monte  Carlo simulation stochastic                                                               
approach this year.  That method will continue to  evolve as they                                                               
forecast method gets back-tested.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:47:42 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  DECKER continued  the presentation  (slide  15) and  started                                                               
with  the 2016  method  that had  three  tranches of  production:                                                               
currently  producing, under  development,  and under  evaluation.                                                               
The  important   take-away  being   that  this   new  forecasting                                                               
methodology  adjusted  the  time   frame  and  the  criteria  for                                                               
inclusion or  exclusion in the various  categories, in particular                                                               
in the under development and the under evaluation categories.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:48:28 PM                                                                                                                    
He said  slide 16 was  a table comparing the  current methodology                                                               
to some of the previous  consultants' methodologies. The two most                                                               
impactful things are at the top of the chart:                                                                                   
-limiting the inclusion to the first  oil window from 10 years to                                                               
1 year;                                                                                                                         
-shortening the under evaluation tranche  from 10 years to the 5-                                                               
year outlook  (anything expected beyond  five years out  has been                                                               
excluded).                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
There is  uncertainty throughout the process  and a probabilistic                                                               
method was  developed so  that Monte  Carlo simulations  based on                                                               
the ranges of many of the variables  could be used. That is a big                                                               
change, because things in the  past were deterministic: basically                                                               
scenarios  or single-point  estimates. Oil  price dependency  was                                                               
also incorporated,  so as the  model is run projects  are weighed                                                               
against the break-even price versus  the DOR's price forecast. If                                                               
a project was  under water, then it wouldn't be  brought into the                                                               
forecast.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:49:57 PM                                                                                                                    
In  general,   Mr.  Decker  said,   they  have  tried   to  apply                                                               
probabilistic risking throughout even  to the currently producing                                                               
tranche, so the decline-based analysis  has a probabilistic range                                                               
associated with  it rather than  a single slope of  decline. They                                                               
also applied  probabilistic pool-by-pool type wells  to represent                                                               
new production that can be added  in as they come in, making sure                                                               
that the well's type was appropriate  to that pool, and also gave                                                               
them  a  range.  Finally,  the forecast  level  uses  mostly  the                                                               
currently  producing/decline  analysis and  that  was  done on  a                                                               
pool-by-pool level  as opposed to  a well-by-well  level, another                                                               
distinction, although not the most impactful one.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:51:10 PM                                                                                                                    
He  recapped that  the currently  producing category  constitutes                                                               
more than  90 percent of  the total  forecast. They looked  at 34                                                               
individual North  Slope pools and  for Cook Inlet,  because those                                                               
fields  are  very  mature  and only  a  few  produce  significant                                                               
amounts of oil they were aggregated  into a single pool, with the                                                               
exception of the Cosmopolitan Field  which is still brand new and                                                               
has  a   different  development  style.   So,  it  has   its  own                                                               
characteristics in the  decline curve analysis. This  is based on                                                               
public Alaska  Oil and Gas  Conservation Commission  (AOGCC) data                                                               
that has a  two-month lag in availability.  Therefore, they chose                                                               
the date of cutoff as the end of last fiscal year.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DECKER also  pointed  out that  the  decline curve  analysis                                                               
forecasting,  when done  at the  pool level,  inherently includes                                                               
and accounts  for the background  ongoing investments  being made                                                               
to keep well stock alive  and keep projects moving. That actually                                                               
shaves some  out of the  under development category  and accounts                                                               
for it in the decline of the currently producing category.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He explained  that a decline  curve analysis looks  at historical                                                               
data for trends  of decline while asking what  part best predicts                                                               
the future.  Because they are  making an effort to  do everything                                                               
possible to  be probabilistic, they  worked with  Schlumberger to                                                               
develop a software  plug-in for oil field  manager software (OFM)                                                               
that actually  helps quantify various  decline rates in  terms of                                                               
the distribution of possible declines.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:53:12 PM                                                                                                                    
An example of  a probabilistic decline curve analysis  is for the                                                               
Tarn Pool (slide  19) in the Kuparuk River Field.  If one were to                                                               
just look  at the historical  points, some general trends  can be                                                               
seen, but  things vary greatly  from those as well.  The software                                                               
plug-in  for  this  project  helps   quantify  what  would  be  a                                                               
reasonable  low-side decline  and a  high-side decline.  This was                                                               
done for all the pools.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:53:49 PM                                                                                                                    
The time frame  for the under development  tranche was restricted                                                               
to first  oil by the  end of the  current fiscal year,  next June                                                               
30th. This  includes incremental wells added  in producing fields                                                               
that are in  excess of the background level. New  fields would be                                                               
included that  are intended to  start up within that  time frame,                                                               
but there aren't any this year.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DECKER  said  they  also  applied a  90  percent  chance  of                                                               
occurrence  for   each  of  the   under  development   and  under                                                               
evaluation wells  based on a  look-back at plans  of development:                                                               
if  they said  they were  going to  drill 10  wells, typically  9                                                               
would be drilled.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
The  price dependency  economic  risks are  applied  to both  the                                                               
under development and the under  evaluation categories. The under                                                               
evaluation  is  for first  production  expected  between June  1,                                                               
2017,  and the  end of  the 2021  fiscal year,  years 2-5  of the                                                               
forecast. Some of the criteria they  would apply to make sure the                                                               
production  is   in  this  category  would   be  having  detailed                                                               
development plans  in place, significant  sunk costs or  at least                                                               
sources  of funding  in place,  maybe inside  or outside  capital                                                               
committed and  secure, facilities or facility  sharing agreements                                                               
developing,  and the  National  Environmental  Policy Act  (NEPA)                                                               
analysis and  Environmental Impact  Statements (EIS) would  be in                                                               
progress or  completed. The same  chances of occurrence  in price                                                               
dependency are  used in the under  development category. Examples                                                               
in  the under  evaluation category  are Oooguruk  Unit, the  Nuna                                                               
Pool, the  Greater Mooses Tooth-1  Development (GMT-1)  in NPR-A,                                                               
the Mustang, the Kuparuk Field  Moraine Development, the 1-H News                                                               
in the West  Sak at Kuparuk, the Oooguruk  Nuiqsut Expansion, and                                                               
the Greater  Mooses Tooth-2 Development (a  separate reservoir in                                                               
the Greater Mooses Tooth Unit from GMT-1).                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:56:23 PM                                                                                                                    
The category  excluded from the  forecast because it  just didn't                                                               
meet  those criteria  were projects  that are  just a  little bit                                                               
less  defined than  those  that were  squeezed  into a  five-year                                                               
window. Yes, the environmental and  permitting challenges are one                                                               
of the key  variables and that is recognized  here. Examples here                                                               
would be  the Pikka,  Ugnu, Placer, Tofkat,  the major  gas sales                                                               
from  Point Thomson,  Liberty,  the Fjord  West,  and Smith  Bay,                                                               
Willow, and ANWR - in some cases, just looking at prospects.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:57:25 PM                                                                                                                    
The results  were on slide 25  in which the North  Slope makes up                                                               
most  of  the  production  mountain. Slide  26  showed  statewide                                                               
production  trends. Basically  one  could argue  from this  slide                                                               
that  if you  just look  back at  the last  10 years  and put  an                                                               
exponential fit to the data, you  would get an average decline of                                                               
about 5.3 percent and pretty  close to what the actual production                                                               
was.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:58:08 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. DECKER said slide 27  compared that history to the production                                                               
forecast and  that showed up in  a range of dots  moving into the                                                               
future. The mean  decline over 10 years is a  4 percent decline -                                                               
the historic  decline is around 5.3  percent - so, a  little more                                                               
optimistic overall than past history since 1988.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:59:20 PM                                                                                                                    
He said some "pot of gold"  scenarios were looked at: what things                                                               
were  not well  enough known  to include  them into  the forecast                                                               
being prepared for revenue generation  purposes. A total of eight                                                               
projects  were  looked at  including  Smith  Bay, Pikka,  Willow,                                                               
Liberty, etc. and excluded from the  forecast. If four or five of                                                               
the most likely of those projects  are brought on, a healthy bump                                                               
in production  would be seen,  but Alaska  will never go  back up                                                               
that  production mountain  to  "the  Glory Days  of  a couple  of                                                               
decades ago."  It's just not  likely to happen with  the excluded                                                               
projects. This will  be addressed in a report that  will come out                                                               
from the Division of Oil and Gas  as soon as it can be thoroughly                                                               
vetted.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING  added that slide  26 is a  classic example of  why it's                                                               
important  not  to  make  overly complex  models.  In  fact,  the                                                               
efforts that  were made by  consultants to include  everything to                                                               
make  the  model look  more  like  reality actually  injured  the                                                               
ability to forecast and using  a simpler approach relying on data                                                               
over the last decade would have provided much better results.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:01:46 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL  thanked everyone and  finding no  further business                                                               
to come before  the Senate Resources Committee  she adjourned the                                                               
meeting at 5:01 p.m.