ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
          SENATE LABOR AND COMMERCE STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                        
                       February 16, 2024                                                                                        
                           1:33 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Jesse Bjorkman, Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Click Bishop, Vice Chair                                                                                                
Senator Kelly Merrick, via teleconference                                                                                       
Senator Forrest Dunbar                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elvi Gray-Jackson                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 134                                                                                                             
"An Act relating to insurance data security; amending Rule 26,                                                                  
Alaska Rules of Civil Procedure, and Rules 402 and 501, Alaska                                                                  
Rules of Evidence; and providing for an effective date."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSSB 134(L&C) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 166                                                                                                             
"An Act establishing the Alaska mental health and psychedelic                                                                   
medicine task force; and providing for an effective date."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSSB 166(L&C) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 191                                                                                                             
"An Act relating to the power of the Alaska Housing Finance                                                                     
Corporation to make or purchase mortgage loans."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - BILL HEARING CANCELED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 134                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: INS. DATA SECURITY; INFO. SECURITY PRGRMS                                                                          
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) KAUFMAN                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
04/21/23       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/21/23       (S)       L&C, JUD, FIN                                                                                          
02/05/24       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
02/05/24       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/05/24       (S)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
02/16/24       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 166                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: MENTAL HEALTH/PSYCHEDELIC MED. TASK FORCE                                                                          
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) DUNBAR                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
01/16/24       (S)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/8/24                                                                                
01/16/24       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/16/24       (S)       L&C, JUD                                                                                               
02/05/24       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
02/05/24       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/05/24       (S)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
02/16/24       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR JAMES KAUFMAN, District F                                                                                               
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Sponsor of SB 134.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
LORI WING-HEIER, Director                                                                                                       
Division of Insurance                                                                                                           
Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development                                                                      
(DCCED)                                                                                                                         
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions on SB 134.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
KONRAD JACKSON, Staff                                                                                                           
Senator Jesse Bjorkman                                                                                                          
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Explained the summary of changes for SB 134.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SETH TIGARIAN, Staff                                                                                                            
Senator Forrest Dunbar                                                                                                          
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided a correction during the hearing on                                                               
SB 166.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MICAELA FOWLER, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                             
Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development                                                                      
(DCCED)                                                                                                                         
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided an overview  of the fiscal  note for                                                            
SB 166.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:33:14 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  JESSE  BJORKMAN  called   the  Senate  Labor  and  Commerce                                                            
Standing Committee  meeting to order  at 1:33 p.m. Present  at the                                                              
call  to  order   were  Senators  Merrick   (via  teleconference),                                                              
Dunbar, Bishop and Chair Bjorkman.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
        SB 134-INS. DATA SECURITY; INFO. SECURITY PRGRMS                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:34:35 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN announced  the consideration  of  SENATE BILL  NO.                                                              
134, "An  Act relating to  insurance data security;  amending Rule                                                              
26,  Alaska Rules  of  Civil Procedure,  and  Rules  402 and  501,                                                              
Alaska Rules of Evidence; and providing for an effective date."                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:35:07 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  JAMES  KAUFMAN,  District F,  Alaska  State  Legislature,                                                              
Juneau, Alaska,  sponsor of  SB 134. He  gave a brief  overview of                                                              
SB  134,  explaining  that  this   legislation  would  update  and                                                              
upgrade  data security  within the  insurance  industry by  adding                                                              
additional   requirements.   He   surmised  that   many   Alaskans                                                              
understand and share data security concerns.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:36:50 PM                                                                                                                    
LORI WING-HEIER,  Director, Division  of Insurance,  Department of                                                              
Commerce,  Community  and Economic  Development  (DCCED),  Juneau,                                                              
Alaska, answered questions on SB 134.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:36:59 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR asked  how difficult  it  would be  to enforce  SB                                                              
134.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:37:12 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. WING-HEIER  shared her  understanding  that most agencies  and                                                              
insurance  companies  already  have the  corporate  governance  in                                                              
place to  address the changes made  by SB 134. She  explained that                                                              
currently,  there is  no channel  for companies  to report  cyber-                                                              
events to her - and to ensure that consumers are notified.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:37:33 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR  asked if the  sponsor is considering  an amendment                                                              
to add this.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:37:48 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAUFMAN replied that this is included in SB 134.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:37:56 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR referred  to the  fiscal note  and asked if  these                                                              
changes could be made with current division staff.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:38:20 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. WING-HEIER replied yes.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:38:24 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR  asked if there  would be any potential  unforeseen                                                              
consequences as a result of these changes.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:38:40 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. WING-HEIER  replied no. She  explained that SB 134  includes a                                                              
timeframe for compliance  and indicated that it would  be a smooth                                                              
transition. She  shared her belief  that the legislation  is well-                                                              
written and noted  that it was vetted at the  National Association                                                              
of Insurance Commissioners (NAIC).                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:39:10 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:39:40 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN reconvened the meeting.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:39:49 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN  opened public testimony  on SB 134;  finding none,                                                              
he closed public testimony.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:40:08 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN solicited a motion.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:40:13 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BISHOP  moved to adopt  the committee substitute  (CS) for                                                              
SB 134, work order 33-LS0253\S, as the working document.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:40:26 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN objected for purposes of discussion.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:40:35 PM                                                                                                                    
KONRAD  JACKSON,  Staff,  Senator  Jesse  Bjorkman,  Alaska  State                                                              
Legislature,  Juneau, Alaska,  explained  the  summary of  changes                                                              
for SB  134. He  explained that  the committee substitute  changes                                                              
the effective dates by moving each ahead by one year.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:41:13 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN  removed  his  objection.   He  found  no  further                                                              
objection and CS for SB 134 was adopted as the working document.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:41:19 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN invited discussion.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:41:45 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BISHOP  asked  if  there   is  a  timeline  for  the  new                                                              
regulations.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:41:53 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. WING-HEIER  replied that the  regulations would likely  take 6                                                              
months.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:42:19 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN solicited the will of the committee.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:42:22 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BISHOP  moved to report  committee substitute (CS)  for SB                                                              
134,  work  order  33-LS0253\S,  from  committee  with  individual                                                              
recommendations and attached fiscal note(s).                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:42:48 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN  found no further  objection and CSSB  134(L&C) was                                                              
reported from the Senate Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
        SB 166-MENTAL HEALTH/PSYCHEDELIC MED. TASK FORCE                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:43:12 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN announced  the consideration  of  SENATE BILL  NO.                                                              
166,  "An   Act  establishing   the  Alaska   mental  health   and                                                              
psychedelic medicine  task force;  and providing for  an effective                                                              
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:43:33 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:45:17 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN reconvened the meeting.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:45:37 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR,  speaking as sponsor  of SB 166, noted  that there                                                              
is a  proposed committee  substitute (CS)  and explained  that the                                                              
CS -  which changes  the nature  of the task  force -  was drafted                                                              
with input from  the department as well as the  sponsor of similar                                                              
legislation in the  House. He said that the overriding  purpose of                                                              
the task  force remains to prepare  Alaska for the  likely federal                                                              
legalization  of  certain  psychedelic  substances  in  a  medical                                                              
context.  One  major change  is  to  move  the staffing  from  the                                                              
Department  of  Commerce,  Community,   and  Economic  Development                                                              
(DCCED)  to the  legislature -  thus creating  a legislative  task                                                              
force. He  noted that  these changes, along  with others  later in                                                              
the document, resulted in a zero fiscal note.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:46:53 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN solicited a motion.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:47:00 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BISHOP  moved to adopt  the committee substitute  (CS) for                                                              
SB 166, work order 33-LS1062\Y, as the working document.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[SENATOR BJORKMAN objected for purposes of discussion.]                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:47:16 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR explained  the summary  of changes  for CSSB  166,                                                              
work  order  33-LS1062\Y.   He  paraphrased  from   the  following                                                              
summary of changes:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                       SUMMARY OF CHANGES                                                                                     
      CSSB 166: MENTAL HEALTH/PSYCHEDELIC MED. TASK FORCE                                                                       
                     Version S to Version Y                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1 (a):                                                                                                           
        • The task force has been moved from the Department                                                                     
          of Commerce, Community, and Economic Development                                                                      
          to the Legislature.                                                                                                   
        • Language is added to clarify that the purpose of                                                                      
          the task  force is to ensure the state  is prepared                                                                   
          if the  federal government authorizes  prescription                                                                   
          of psychedelic  medicines, not  to advocate  for or                                                                   
          against the medicalization of psychedelics.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1  (a)(4): Language  is updated to clarify  that                                                                 
     the purpose of  the task force is to consider  legal and                                                                   
     regulatory  changes that may  be necessary upon  federal                                                                   
     medical approval of psychedelics.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1  (b)(5): The language  "one of whom must  be a                                                                 
     recognized  ethnoherbalist,"  is  deleted, to  give  the                                                                   
     Alaska  Native  Health  Board more  latitude  to  choose                                                                   
     their representatives to the task force.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section  1  (b)(8):  A  new  subsection  adds  a  member                                                                 
     representing  psychiatric nurse practitioners,  selected                                                                   
     by  the   Alaska  Advanced  Practice   Registered  Nurse                                                                   
     Alliance.  This change  recognizes  that  nurses may  be                                                                   
     involved   in   the   administration    of   psychedelic                                                                   
     medicines.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section  1  (b)(9):  A  new  subsection  adds  a  member                                                                 
     representing   licensed   therapists   and   counselors,                                                                   
     selected   by   the   Alaska   Addiction   Professionals                                                                   
     Association. This  change recognizes that  therapists or                                                                   
     counselors  would be involved  in the administration  of                                                                   
     psychedelic  medicines.  Subsequent sections  have  been                                                                   
     renumbered.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section   1   (e):   Language   providing   for   travel                                                                 
     reimbursement and per diem is removed.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1  (f)(2): Language is deleted  which instructed                                                                 
     the   task  force   to   make  members   available   for                                                                   
     legislative hearings,  as the task force  will terminate                                                                   
     before the next legislative session.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1  (g): The termination  date of the  task force                                                                 
     is  corrected  to  the convening  of  the  Thirty-Fourth                                                                   
     Alaska   Legislature,  rather   than  the   Thirty-Fifth                                                                   
     Alaska   Legislature.  This   change  aligns  with   the                                                                   
     existing  task force  report  due date  of December  31,                                                                   
     2024                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:49:51 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN found no further objection and CSSB 166 was                                                                      
adopted as the working document.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:50:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SETH  TIGARIAN,  Staff,  Senator   Forrest  Dunbar,  Alaska  State                                                              
Legislature,  Juneau, Alaska,  provided  a  correction during  the                                                              
hearing on  SB 166. He clarified  that work order  33-LS1062\Y was                                                              
before the committee.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:50:40 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:51:28 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN reconvened the meeting.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:52:02 PM                                                                                                                    
MICAELA  FOWLER,  Deputy  Commissioner,  Department  of  Commerce,                                                              
Community  and  Economic  Development   (DCCED),  Juneau,  Alaska,                                                              
provided  an  overview  of  the   fiscal  note  for  SB  166.  She                                                              
explained  that   the  CS  places   the  task  force   within  the                                                              
legislative branch  and thus removes all costs  to the department.                                                              
She noted  that the department would  maintain a seat on  the task                                                              
force; however, this would not result in any additional costs.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:52:36 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR   BISHOP   noted  that   the   CS  includes   DCCED   (the                                                              
commissioner  or  their  designee)  in  the  list  of  task  force                                                              
members and asked  if the department plans to  participate in this                                                              
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:53:00 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. FOWLER  replied yes.  She said  that the  designee may  be the                                                              
director   of  the   Division  of   Corporations,  Business,   and                                                              
Professional Licensing (CBPL).                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:53:44 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN solicited the will of the committee.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:53:49 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BISHOP moved  to report CSSB 166, work  order 33-LS1062\Y,                                                              
from  committee  with  individual   recommendations  and  attached                                                              
fiscal note(s).                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:54:17 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN found  no objection and CSSB 166(L&C)  was reported                                                              
from the House Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:54:42 PM                                                                                                                    
There  being no  further business  to come  before the  committee,                                                              
Chair Bjorkman  adjourned the Senate  Labor and Commerce  Standing                                                              
Committee meeting at 1:54 p.m.