ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
          SENATE LABOR AND COMMERCE STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                        
                         March 29, 2021                                                                                         
                           1:30 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Mia Costello, Chair                                                                                                     
Senator Roger Holland, Vice Chair                                                                                               
Senator Joshua Revak                                                                                                            
Senator Gary Stevens                                                                                                            
Senator Elvi Gray-Jackson                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Alaska Labor Relations Agency                                                                                                 
Tyler Andrews - Anchorage                                                                                                       
Dennis DeWitt - Juneau                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Alaska Workers' Compensation Board                                                                                            
Anthony Ladd - Anchorage                                                                                                        
Jason Motyka - Anchorage                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Board of Social Work Examiners                                                                                                
Mindy Swisher - Palmer                                                                                                          
Sharon Woodward - Juneau                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATIONS ADVANCED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Board of Dental Examiners                                                                                                     
Gregory Johnson - Fairbanks                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION ADVANCED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Board of Professional Counselors                                                                                              
Dorene "Dori" Hagen - Homer                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION ADVANCED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Board of Veterinary Examiners                                                                                                 
Denise Albert - Denali Park                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION ADVANCED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Marijuana Control Board                                                                                                       
Nicholas "Nick" Miller - Anchorage                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION ADVANCED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Board of Registration for Architects, Engineers, & Land                                                                       
Surveyors                                                                                                                     
Loren Leman - Anchorage                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION ADVANCED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Board of Marital & Family Therapy                                                                                             
Joy Collins - Anchorage                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION ADVANCED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 40                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to veterans' benefits services and veterans'                                                                   
benefits appeal services."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED SB 40 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB  40                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: VETERANS' BENEFITS SERVICES; DISCLOSURE                                                                            
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) REVAK                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
01/25/21       (S)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/15/21                                                                               
01/25/21       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/25/21       (S)       STA, L&C                                                                                               
03/04/21       (S)       STA AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
03/04/21       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/04/21       (S)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
03/11/21       (S)       STA AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
03/11/21       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/11/21       (S)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
03/18/21       (S)       STA AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
03/18/21       (S)       Moved SB 40 Out of Committee                                                                           
03/18/21       (S)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
03/19/21       (S)       STA RPT 4DP                                                                                            
03/19/21       (S)       DP: SHOWER, HOLLAND, COSTELLO, REINBOLD                                                                
03/19/21       (S)       OBJECTION  (REGARDING  REPORTING OUT  OF                                                               
                         COMMITTEE PROCESS)                                                                                     
03/19/21       (S)       POSTPONE QUESTION  TO MARCH  24   Y14 N2                                                               
                         E3 A1                                                                                                  
03/22/21       (S)       OBJECTION      WITHDRAWN      (REGARDING                                                               
                         REPORTING OUT OF COMMITTEE PROCESS)                                                                    
03/29/21       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
TYLER ANDREWS, Appointee                                                                                                        
Alaska Labor Relations Agency                                                                                                   
Department of Labor and Workforce Development (DOLWD)                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT: Testified  for reappointment  to the  Alaska                                                             
Labor Relations Agency.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DENNIS DEWITT, Appointee                                                                                                        
Alaska Labor Relations Agency                                                                                                   
Department of Labor and Workforce Development (DOLWD)                                                                           
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified as  appointee to the  Alaska Labor                                                             
Relations Agency.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
ANTHONY LADD, Appointee                                                                                                         
Alaska Workers' Compensation Board                                                                                              
Department of Labor and Workforce Development (DOLWD)                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified  as  appointee  to   the  Alaska                                                             
Workers' Compensation Board.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JASON MOTYKA, Appointee                                                                                                         
Alaska Workers' Compensation Board                                                                                              
Department of Labor and Workforce Development (DOLWD)                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified  as  appointee  to   the  Alaska                                                             
Workers' Compensation Board.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MINDY SWISHER, Appointee                                                                                                        
Board of Social Work Examiners                                                                                                  
Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development                                                                      
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Testified  as  appointee to  the  Board  of                                                             
Social Work Examiners.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SHARON WOODWARD, Appointee                                                                                                      
Board of Social Work Examiners                                                                                                  
Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development                                                                      
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified for reappointment to  the Board of                                                             
Social Work Examiners.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
GREGORY JOHNSON, Appointee                                                                                                      
Board of Dental Examiners                                                                                                       
Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development                                                                      
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Testified  as  appointee to  the  Board  of                                                             
Dental Examiners.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
DORENE "DORI" HAGEN, Appointee                                                                                                  
Board of Professional Counselors                                                                                                
Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development                                                                      
Homer, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Testified  as  appointee to  the  Board  of                                                             
Professional Counselors.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DR. DENISE ALBERT, Appointee                                                                                                    
Board of Veterinary Examiners                                                                                                   
Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development                                                                      
Denali Park, Alaska                                                                                                             
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Testified  as  appointee to  the  Board  of                                                             
Veterinary Examiners.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
NICHOLAS "NICK" MILLER, Appointee                                                                                               
Marijuana Control Board                                                                                                         
Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development                                                                      
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified for  reappointment to the Marijuana                                                             
Control Board.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHERYL BOWIE, representing self                                                                                                 
Colorado                                                                                                                        
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to  reappointing the                                                             
same members to the Marijuana Control Board.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LACY WILCOX, President                                                                                                          
Alaska Marijuana Industry Association (AMIA)                                                                                    
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on  behalf of  AMIA in  support of                                                             
Nick Miller's reappointment to the Marijuana Control Board.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
RYAN TUNSETH, representing self                                                                                                 
Kenai, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of the reappointment of                                                              
Nick Miller to the board.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
LOREN LEMAN, Appointee                                                                                                          
Board of Registration for Architects, Engineers & Land Surveyors                                                                
Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development                                                                      
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified as appointee to the Board of                                                                    
Registration for Architects, Engineers, and Land Surveyors.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JOY COLLINS, Appointee                                                                                                          
Board of Marital and Family Therapy                                                                                             
Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development                                                                      
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified as appointee to the Board of                                                                    
Marital and Family Therapy.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SETH DUGGAN, Staff                                                                                                              
Senator Josh Revak                                                                                                              
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: introduced SB 40 on behalf of the sponsor                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
VERDIE BOWEN, Administrative Director of Veterans Affairs                                                                       
Office of Veterans Affairs                                                                                                      
Department of Military & Veterans Affairs (DMVA)                                                                                
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided supporting testimony for SB 40.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
1:30:34 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MIA COSTELLO called the  Senate Labor and Commerce Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 1:30  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order were  Senators Gray-Jackson,  Revak, Stevens,  Holland, and                                                               
Chair Costello.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
She reviewed the agenda.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)                                                                                                        
                    CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)                                                                                 
                 Alaska Labor Relations Agency                                                                              
               Alaska Workers' Compensation Board                                                                           
                 Board of Social Work Examiners                                                                             
                   Board of Dental Examiners                                                                                
                Board of Professional Counselors                                                                            
                 Board of Veterinary Examiners                                                                              
                    Marijuana Control Board                                                                                 
 Board of Registration for Architects, Engineers & Land Surveyors                                                           
               Board of Marital & Family Therapy                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:31:48 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   COSTELLO   announced   the  consideration   of   Governor                                                               
Appointees to  Boards and Commissions. She  explained the process                                                               
to the appointees.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO asked Tyler Andrews  to introduce himself, provide                                                               
a  brief background,  and share  his interest  in serving  on the                                                               
Alaska Labor Relations Agency.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:33:02 PM                                                                                                                    
TYLER   ANDREWS,  Appointee,   Alaska  Labor   Relations  Agency,                                                               
Department   of   Labor   and  Workforce   Development   (DOLWD),                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska,  related that he was  seeking reappointment to                                                               
a  management seat  on this  board. He  serves because  it is  an                                                               
opportunity to  give back  to the state.  He has  enjoyed serving                                                               
and  learning different  aspects of  his profession.  He said  he                                                               
looks forward to  continuing to serve and he  believes the system                                                               
is functioning such that adjudications are quick and proper.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO noted  that his experience includes  work in labor                                                               
relations  with the  Chugach Electric  Board for  nine years  and                                                               
more than  ten collective bargaining agreements  representing the                                                               
state. She found  no questions and thanked him  for being willing                                                               
to serve the state in this capacity.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:34:46 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  COSTELLO opened  public testimony  on  the appointment  of                                                               
Tyler  Andrews  to the  Alaska  Labor  Relations Agency;  finding                                                               
none, she closed public testimony.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO asked Dennis DeWitt  to introduce himself, provide                                                               
a  brief background,  and share  his interest  in serving  on the                                                               
Alaska Labor Relations Agency.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:35:27 PM                                                                                                                    
DENNIS   DEWITT,  Appointee,   Alaska  Labor   Relations  Agency,                                                               
Department of  Labor and  Workforce Development  (DOLWD), Juneau,                                                               
Alaska, stated that he and his  wife live and raised their family                                                               
in Juneau. He  arrived initially in 1980. He related  that he has                                                               
worked  in  and  around  government   for  most  of  his  career,                                                               
including as  the director of  the Division of  Pioneer Benefits,                                                               
special assistant to Governor Murkowski,  and staff for the House                                                               
Finance Committee  where he worked  on labor relation  issues. He                                                               
opined that  his background prepared him  well to be a  member of                                                               
the   Alaska   Labor   Relations   Agency.   He   recounted   the                                                               
responsibilities  to   listen,  review  pertinent   statutes  and                                                               
previous board decisions,  and render fair decisions.  He said he                                                               
believes that  serving on  this board  is another  opportunity to                                                               
serve the state.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS disclosed  that Mr. DeWitt had been  a friend for                                                               
many years.  He asked,  as a long-time  Rotarian, how  service on                                                               
this  board fits  with  the principal  Rotary  motto of  "Service                                                               
Above Self."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DEWITT replied  this service  does fit  with the  concept of                                                               
Service Above Self.  He said he believes that it  is important to                                                               
see that  people who come  before the  board can be  assured that                                                               
the members will listen and make  fair judgements. He has time to                                                               
contribute and this is part of what Rotarians do, he said.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:38:39 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  COSTELLO opened  public testimony  on  the appointment  of                                                               
Dennis  DeWitt  to the  Alaska  Labor  Relations Agency;  finding                                                               
none, she closed public testimony.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO  asked Anthony Ladd to  introduce himself, provide                                                               
a  brief background,  and share  his interest  in serving  on the                                                               
Alaska Workers' Compensation Board.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:39:05 PM                                                                                                                    
ANTHONY  LADD,  Appointee,  Alaska Workers'  Compensation  Board,                                                               
Department   of   Labor   and  Workforce   Development   (DOLWD),                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska,  stated that he  is a lifelong Alaskan  who is                                                               
currently  residing  in Anchorage  and  working  as the  business                                                               
manager  for the  Iron  Workers  Local 751.  He  related that  he                                                               
currently sits  on the Alaska  Workforce Investment Board  and is                                                               
chair  for  the  Assessment  and  Evaluation  Committee.  He  has                                                               
attended  two  workers'  compensation   board  meetings  and  has                                                               
participated as  an observer  on two  cases. He  understands that                                                               
this  is a  working  board and  he looks  forward  to serving  if                                                               
confirmed. He related that his interest  in this board is to be a                                                               
voice for the workers to  navigate workers' compensation and find                                                               
ways  to reduce  costs of  workers' compensation  through safety,                                                               
training, and reducing medical costs.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:40:24 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  COSTELLO opened  public testimony  on  the appointment  of                                                               
Anthony Ladd  to the Alaska Workers'  Compensation Board; finding                                                               
none, she closed public testimony.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO  asked Jason Motyka to  introduce himself, provide                                                               
a  brief background,  and share  his interest  in serving  on the                                                               
Alaska Workers' Compensation Board.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:40:52 PM                                                                                                                    
JASON  MOTYKA,  Appointee,  Alaska Workers'  Compensation  Board,                                                               
Department   of   Labor   and  Workforce   Development   (DOLWD),                                                               
Anchorage,  Alaska, stated  that  he is  a  lifelong Alaskan  who                                                               
started  his  first business  at  age  25  and now  has  multiple                                                               
tourism and  hospitality businesses in both  Anchorage and Denali                                                               
National Park. He said he  believes he would bring unique insight                                                               
into the  challenges facing small  business owners in  the state.                                                               
He hopes to  be part of developing a better  system, helping make                                                               
the state a better place  to do business, and ensuring protection                                                               
and fair treatment for workers.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO noted that his  resume indicates he was the Alaska                                                               
Small Business Person of the Year  twice. She thanked him for his                                                               
service to the state.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:43:21 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  COSTELLO opened  public testimony  on  the appointment  of                                                               
Jason Motyka  to the Alaska Workers'  Compensation Board; finding                                                               
none, she closed public testimony.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COSTELLO  invited  Mindy  Swisher  to  introduce  herself,                                                               
provide a brief background, and  share her interest in serving on                                                               
the Board of Social Work Examiners.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:43:43 PM                                                                                                                    
MINDY  SWISHER,  Appointee,  Board   of  Social  Work  Examiners,                                                               
Department  of  Commerce,  Community  and  Economic  Development,                                                               
Palmer, Alaska, stated  that she is a lifelong  Alaskan who holds                                                               
a master's degree  and is a licensed clinical  social worker. She                                                               
advised that  she is seeking  reappointment and  currently serves                                                               
as chair. She  related that for the past 14  years she has worked                                                               
as manager of  the Office of Children's Services.  Her reason for                                                               
serving on this board is to  make sure that the social work field                                                               
is  protected and  fairly regulated.  She said  she enjoys  being                                                               
part of  formulating regulations  and COVID-19 provided  a unique                                                               
opportunity  to look  at  statutes and  regulations  with an  eye                                                               
toward better  service to  Alaskan families.  She said  she would                                                               
like to continue to serve on the  board; she enjoys this as a way                                                               
to give back to the state.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO  asked what she  sees as the number  one challenge                                                               
facing the board after the COVID-19 pandemic.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.   SWISHER   answered  that   the   board   has  had   ongoing                                                               
conversations about  the need for  additional social  workers and                                                               
how to bridge  the gap with licensure and  applications. She said                                                               
she  looks  forward  to  having  a full  board  and  looking  for                                                               
solutions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COSTELLO asked  what it  costs  to receive  a Bachelor  of                                                               
Social Work degree and a Master of Social Work degree.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SWISHER replied  it  was affordable  when  she received  her                                                               
bachelor's degree from  UAF many years ago  because she qualified                                                               
for in-state tuition.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:46:49 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  COSTELLO opened  public testimony  on  the appointment  of                                                               
Mindy  Swisher to  the Board  of Social  Work Examiners;  finding                                                               
none, she closed public testimony.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COSTELLO  asked  Sharon  Woodward  to  introduce  herself,                                                               
provide a brief background, and  share her interest in serving on                                                               
the Board of Social Work Examiners.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:47:10 PM                                                                                                                    
SHARON  WOODWARD,  Appointee,  Board of  Social  Work  Examiners,                                                               
Department  of  Commerce,  Community  and  Economic  Development,                                                               
Juneau, Alaska, stated  that she has been a social  worker for 14                                                               
years, primarily  working with the elder  population. She related                                                               
that  she has  worked as  an investigator  with Elder  Protective                                                               
Services  and as  the director  of social  services in  long-term                                                               
care in  both Nevada and Alaska.  She said long-term care  is her                                                               
passion and she would like to  serve on this board to support and                                                               
encourage   the  professionals   who   advocate  for   vulnerable                                                               
populations.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COSTELLO  expressed  appreciation   for  her  interest  in                                                               
supporting  the elderly  population  because  that population  is                                                               
growing rapidly and elder abuse is a concern.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:48:19 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  COSTELLO opened  public testimony  on  the appointment  of                                                               
Sharon Woodward  to the Board  of Social Work  Examiners; finding                                                               
none, she closed public testimony.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO  asked Dr. Gregory  Johnson to  introduce himself,                                                               
provide a brief background, and  share his interest in serving on                                                               
the Board of Dental Examiners.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:48:43 PM                                                                                                                    
DR.  GREGORY  JOHNSON,  Appointee,  Board  of  Dental  Examiners,                                                               
Department  of  Commerce,  Community  and  Economic  Development,                                                               
Fairbanks, Alaska,  stated that he  became licensed in  Alaska in                                                               
1986 and  started practice as  a pediatric dentist  the following                                                               
year. He would  like to serve the state once  again after serving                                                               
on  the   Medical  Care  Advisory  Committee   and  the  Interior                                                               
Community Health  Center. He said  he believes that his  work and                                                               
volunteer  experience  would  be  valuable  to  this  board.  His                                                               
application  demonstrates his  willingness  to give  back to  his                                                               
community and state.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO noted  that his resume indicates he  served in the                                                               
Army  National Guard  and she  thanked  him for  serving in  that                                                               
capacity.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:50:14 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COSTELLO opened public testimony  on the appointment of Dr.                                                               
Gregory Johnson to  the Board of Dental  Examiners; finding none,                                                               
she closed public testimony.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COSTELLO  invited  Dorene   Hagen  to  introduce  herself,                                                               
provide a brief background, and  share her interest in serving on                                                               
the Board of Professional Counselors.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:50:35 PM                                                                                                                    
DORENE   "DORI"   HAGEN,   Appointee,   Board   of   Professional                                                               
Counselors,  Department  of   Commerce,  Community  and  Economic                                                               
Development, Homer, Alaska,  stated that she has  lived in Alaska                                                               
off and on for 30 years  and currently resides in Homer. She said                                                               
she pursued  professional counseling as  an adult with  a passion                                                               
to help individuals  who have found life difficult.  She has been                                                               
serving as  a counselor for about  5 years. She said  she applied                                                               
to  be  a member  of  this  board  to  ensure that  ethical  best                                                               
practices  are employed  for the  clients that  counselors serve.                                                               
She  said she  has not  served on  a board  before and  she looks                                                               
forward to working with this team.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO  noted that  her resume reflects  a wide  range of                                                               
experience.  She asked  if she  wanted to  share any  experiences                                                               
from  her time  spent as  a  missionary in  Lebanon doing  trauma                                                               
counseling.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HAGEN replied  that she  continues to  grow and  learn about                                                               
trauma and  how it affects  a person's perception of  their life.                                                               
She said  it was  an honor to  be invited to  the Middle  East to                                                               
serve Syrian  refugees coming  out of  the battlefield  and offer                                                               
practical tools to  help children, moms, dads,  and families cope                                                               
and start moving forward.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:53:37 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  COSTELLO opened  public testimony  on  the appointment  of                                                               
Dorene  "Dori" Hagen  to the  Board  of Professional  Counselors;                                                               
finding none, she closed public testimony.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COSTELLO asked  Dr. Denise  Albert  to introduce  herself,                                                               
provide a brief background, and  share her interest in serving on                                                               
the Board of Veterinary Examiners.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:54:10 PM                                                                                                                    
DENISE  ALBERT, DVM;  Appointee, Board  of Veterinary  Examiners,                                                               
Department  of  Commerce,  Community  and  Economic  Development,                                                               
Denali Park, Alaska, stated that  she began serving on this board                                                               
a year ago,  just before COVID-19 hit. She has  been a practicing                                                               
veterinarian for 35  years who first came to  Alaska to volunteer                                                               
as a trail  vet for the Iditarod race 26  years ago and continued                                                               
to do so  for the next 15  years. She has lived  and practiced in                                                               
Alaska  for the  last 20  years. She  is now  semi-retired and  a                                                               
colleague suggested she  apply to serve on this  board. She noted                                                               
that her resume  indicates she has served  in multiple capacities                                                               
of the profession in numerous  locations nationwide. She said her                                                               
broad view of the field and  attention to detail would be helpful                                                               
to the board.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DR.  ALBERT said  she has  learned a  great deal  serving on  the                                                               
board  this last  year and  looks forward  to continuing  in this                                                               
capacity.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS said he appreciates  her resume and sees that her                                                               
semi-retired life is not very semi.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   HOLLAND  commended   her  for   receiving  the   Golden                                                               
Stethoscope Award  from the Iditarod  Finishers Club in  1997 and                                                               
2009.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:58:15 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COSTELLO opened public testimony  on the appointment of Dr.                                                               
Denise  Albert  to the  Board  of  Veterinary Examiners;  finding                                                               
none, she closed public testimony.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO thanked her for her service.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO asked Nick Miller  to introduce himself, provide a                                                               
brief  background,  and share  his  interest  in serving  on  the                                                               
Marijuana Control Board.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:58:45 PM                                                                                                                    
NICHOLAS  "NICK"  MILLER,  Appointee,  Marijuana  Control  Board,                                                               
Department  of  Commerce,  Community  and  Economic  Development,                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska,  stated that  he is  currently serving  in the                                                               
industry seat. He would like to  continue this service to work on                                                               
improving  the  regulations in  this  maturing  industry for  the                                                               
public and  the industry  as a  whole. He noted  that he  and his                                                               
wife own multiple licenses in the cannabis industry.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS  asked  for  a description  of  the  changes  he                                                               
envisions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. MILLER  replied most  of the  changes relate  to transporting                                                               
product  from  one  location  to  another.  This  can  take  time                                                               
depending  on the  route and  road conditions  and there  are not                                                               
many options to  overnight when driving from  Fairbanks to Kenai,                                                               
for example.  This puts transporters  in a difficult  position if                                                               
they have to drive that far on bad roads, he said.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:00:31 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  COSTELLO opened  public testimony  on  the appointment  of                                                               
Nicholas "Nick" Miller to the Marijuana Control Board.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:00:46 PM                                                                                                                    
CHERYL BOWIE, representing  self, Colorado, stated that  she is a                                                               
medical marijuana user and a  licensed medical marijuana employee                                                               
who relocated  to Colorado from Alaska  so she could work  in the                                                               
medical  marijuana  field.  She  said  she  opposes  reconfirming                                                               
members to this  board, particularly for the  industry and public                                                               
seats.  She voiced  support for  diversity and  pointed out  that                                                               
there  are  many  aspects  of   the  marijuana  industry  besides                                                               
recreational.  She highlighted  that  the members  of this  board                                                               
have  done  nothing  to  increase access  in  Alaska  to  medical                                                               
marijuana.  She  said  patients  are  priced  out  of  the  legal                                                               
industry, putting  them at risk. She  cited progressive movements                                                               
in the USDA and other states  and advocated for creating seats on                                                               
this  board   to  represent   medical  marijuana   patients,  and                                                               
agriculture.  Doing so  would prevent  people  like herself  from                                                               
leaving  Alaska to  work in  the  medical marijuana  area of  the                                                               
industry.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:04:58 PM                                                                                                                    
LACY  WILCOX, President,  Alaska  Marijuana Industry  Association                                                               
(AMIA),  Juneau,  Alaska,  advised  that the  AMIA  is  the  only                                                               
statewide cannabis  industry trade group.  It has the  mission to                                                               
promote  and  advocate for  a  vibrant  and reasonably  regulated                                                               
Alaska-based  marijuana  industry. On  behalf  of  the AMIA,  she                                                               
stated  support for  the reappointment  and confirmation  of Nick                                                               
Miller to the  industry seat on the Marijuana  Control Board. She                                                               
said he  holds multiple cannabis  industry licenses and  he meets                                                               
the  statutory  qualifications of  the  industry  seat. He  is  a                                                               
founder  of the  Anchorage  Cannabis Business  Association and  a                                                               
member of  the AMIA board.  He provides sensible guidance  to the                                                               
board and understands both the urban and rural markets.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Addressing  the prior  speaker's  concern  about staying  current                                                               
with what  is happening in  the industry nationally, she  said it                                                               
is the  duty of the  AMIA to  stay current on  national standards                                                               
and Mr.  Miller's work with  the association helps in  the effort                                                               
move forward on national issues.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:08:03 PM                                                                                                                    
RYAN TUNSETH,  representing self, Kenai, Alaska,  advised that he                                                               
owns a retail  marijuana business in Kenai and he  is speaking in                                                               
support  of the  reappointment of  Nick Miller  to the  Marijuana                                                               
Control Board.  He said  Mr. Miller  has gone out  of his  way to                                                               
include all people  in the industry and to disrupt  the makeup of                                                               
the board at this time would put licensees at a disadvantage.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:10:03 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  COSTELLO closed  public testimony  on  the appointment  of                                                               
Nick Miller to the Marijuana Control Board.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO asked Loren Leman  to introduce himself, provide a                                                               
brief background, and share his  interest in serving on the Board                                                               
of Registration for Architects, Engineers, and Land Surveyors.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:10:37 PM                                                                                                                    
LOREN  LEMAN, Appointee,  Board of  Registration for  Architects,                                                               
Engineers  &  Land  Surveyors  (AELS),  Department  of  Commerce,                                                               
Community  and Economic  Development,  Anchorage, Alaska,  stated                                                               
that he  was appointed  in March  2020 to fill  one of  the civil                                                               
engineer seats on  the AELS Board. He said he  realizes that many                                                               
on the committee  are more familiar with him as  a former elected                                                               
official  than his  47 years  providing  civil and  environmental                                                               
engineering services  in every region  of Alaska. When  he agreed                                                               
to apply  for the  position, he  said he  did not  appreciate the                                                               
work commitment. The  board meets for two days four  times a year                                                               
and  has work  assignments between  meetings. He  said the  board                                                               
functions well  but has  thoughts on  improvements and  may bring                                                               
those  proposals to  the  legislature next  session.  He said  he                                                               
views  this  and  his  other   service  as  giving  back  to  the                                                               
engineering profession  and the state  that has provided  so much                                                               
for his family and himself.  He asked for the committee's support                                                               
for himself and all the AELS Board nominees.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO  said it has always  been a pleasure to  work with                                                               
you.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR REVAK  expressed appreciation for his  continuing service                                                               
to the community and state.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS  commented that Kodiak continues  to consider him                                                               
a Kodiak descendent.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:15:48 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  COSTELLO opened  public testimony  on  the appointment  of                                                               
Loren  Leman  to  the  Board   of  Registration  for  Architects,                                                               
Engineers  and Land  Surveyors; finding  none, she  closed public                                                               
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO asked Joy Collins  to introduce herself, provide a                                                               
brief background, and share her  interest in serving on the Board                                                               
of Marital and Family Therapy.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:16:24 PM                                                                                                                    
JOY  COLLINS, Appointee,  Board  of Marital  and Family  Therapy,                                                               
Department  of  Commerce,  Community  and  Economic  Development,                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska,  stated that  she is  a lifelong  Alaskan. She                                                               
received a master's degree in  psychology and marriage and family                                                               
therapy  in  2000  and  received   her  license  in  2003.  As  a                                                               
registered  play therapist,  she  said she  works primarily  with                                                               
children  and  their  families   struggling  with  a  variety  of                                                               
clinical issues. She relayed her interest  in this board is to be                                                               
a voice for her colleagues  and help them understand policies the                                                               
board implements. She  said she considers herself  to have strong                                                               
ethics and integrity and she  has the ability to look objectively                                                               
at  all  sides of  issues  from  both  the client  and  therapist                                                               
perspectives.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON asked what a play therapist does.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. COLLINS explained  that there are many types  of play therapy                                                               
but  generally, it  is either  directive  or nondirective.  Young                                                               
people often cannot  verbalize their feelings of  the trauma they                                                               
have experienced,  but they use  play to work through  the trauma                                                               
and this reduces  their symptoms. Using puppets,  sand trays, and                                                               
art,  the therapist  helps the  child play  out and  work through                                                               
what they  experienced. These types  of therapy are  also helpful                                                               
as  the child  gets older  because they  don't need  to look  the                                                               
therapist in  the eye as  they share difficult issues  or traumas                                                               
they've experienced.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:19:29 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COSTELLO opened public testimony  on the appointment of Joy                                                               
Collins  to the  Board  of Marital  and  Family Therapy;  finding                                                               
none, she closed public testimony.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COSTELLO expressed  appreciation  that she  stepped up  to                                                               
serve the state.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:19:55 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HOLLAND stated that in  accordance with AS 39.05.080, the                                                               
Senate  Labor  and  Commerce   Standing  Committee  reviewed  the                                                               
following  and  recommends the  appointments  be  forwarded to  a                                                               
joint session for consideration:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Alaska Labor Relations Agency                                                                                                 
Tyler Andrews - Anchorage                                                                                                       
Dennis DeWitt - Juneau                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Alaska Workers' Compensation Board                                                                                            
Anthony Ladd - Anchorage                                                                                                        
Jason Motyka - Anchorage                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Board of Social Work Examiners                                                                                                
Mindy Swisher - Palmer                                                                                                          
Sharon Woodward - Juneau                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Board of Dental Examiners                                                                                                     
Gregory Johnson - Fairbanks                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Board of Professional Counselors                                                                                              
Dorene "Dori" Hagen - Homer                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Board of Veterinary Examiners                                                                                                 
Denise Albert - Denali Park                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Marijuana Control Board                                                                                                       
Nicholas "Nick" Miller - Anchorage                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Board of Registration for Architects, Engineers & Land Surveyors                                                              
Loren Leman - Anchorage                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Board of Marital & Family Therapy                                                                                             
Joy Collins - Anchorage                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Signing  the   reports  regarding  appointments  to   boards  and                                                               
commissions in  no way reflects  individual members'  approval or                                                               
disapproval  of  the  appointees;   the  nominations  are  merely                                                               
forwarded to the full legislature for confirmation or rejection.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO found no objection and the names were forwarded.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
         SB 40-VETERANS' BENEFITS SERVICES; DISCLOSURE                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:21:04 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COSTELLO announced the consideration  of SENATE BILL NO. 40                                                               
"An  Act relating  to veterans'  benefits services  and veterans'                                                               
benefits appeal services."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
She said  this is  the first  hearing in  this committee  and the                                                               
intention is  to hear the  introduction, take invited  and public                                                               
testimony, and look to the will of the committee.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:21:39 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR REVAK,  speaking as  sponsor of SB  40, stated  that this                                                               
legislation  addresses the  issue  that  some for-profit  veteran                                                               
service  providers are  preying on  veterans who  find they  need                                                               
legal, medical,  and other  services and  are unaware  that these                                                               
services  are available  at  no  cost to  the  veteran through  a                                                               
Veteran  Service Organization  (VSO).  Some for-profit  providers                                                               
are taking  a good  portion of a  veteran's benefits  in exchange                                                               
for filling out an application to receive needed services.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SB  40 essentially  says that  these  for-profit businesses  must                                                               
disclose to the veteran that  their services may be obtained free                                                               
of charge from a VSO.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:23:34 PM                                                                                                                    
SETH   DUGGAN,   Staff,   Senator  Josh   Revak,   Alaska   State                                                               
Legislature,   Juneau,  Alaska,   read   the  following   sponsor                                                               
statement into the record:                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     When  a  veteran  needs legal  representation,  medical                                                                    
     supplies, or other services, many  are not aware that a                                                                    
     Veteran  Service   Organization  (VSO)   provides  many                                                                    
     services free  of charge. Instead, they  pay hefty fees                                                                    
     to  other  providers and  take  on  debt without  being                                                                    
     fully informed about their free options.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:23:57 PM                                                                                                                    
     SB  40   seeks  to  stop  veterans   from  being  taken                                                                    
     advantage  of   by  requiring  these   individuals  and                                                                    
     businesses who  offer compensated veterans  services to                                                                    
     provide veterans a written  disclosure form listing the                                                                    
     free alternatives prior to taking  them on as a client.                                                                    
     Additionally,  any  advertisement for  veteran  benefit                                                                    
     services will be required to  include a disclosure that                                                                    
     indicates  that a  Veteran Service  Organization offers                                                                    
     these services  free of charge. Should  the veteran not                                                                    
     receive  the  disclosure,  the individual  or  business                                                                    
     responsible  can  be  fined  $1,000  dollars  for  each                                                                    
     violation.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Currently,  there are  18 Veteran  Service Officers  in                                                                    
     Alaska  who  work  under   organizations  such  as  the                                                                    
     Veterans  of  Foreign   Wars  (VFW),  American  Legion,                                                                    
     Disabled American Veterans  (DAV), the Vietnam Veterans                                                                    
     of  America   (VVA),  and  the  Director   of  Veterans                                                                    
     Affairs.  These   organizations  are   responsible  for                                                                    
     aiding and advising veterans free of charge.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     The passage  of SB 40  ensures that veterans  and their                                                                    
     families who  are looking for assistance  with veterans                                                                    
     benefit  services are  fully  informed  about the  free                                                                    
     services  offered  by   Veteran  Service  Organizations                                                                    
     before they  pay for assistance.  After making  so many                                                                    
     sacrifices  to serve  our country,  veterans are  being                                                                    
     taken advantage  ofSB  40 seeks to  change this reality                                                                    
     and help  connect veterans  to the  affordable services                                                                    
     they deserve.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:25:37 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COSTELLO asked if it was intentional that the legislation                                                                 
has no effective date.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUGGAN deferred the question to Director Bowen.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS asked  for examples  of how  veterans are  taken                                                               
advantage  of   and  if  the   for-profit  providers   should  be                                                               
prohibited altogether.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR REVAK cited  the example of a law firm  helping a veteran                                                               
with a  claim. The firm enters  into a contract with  the veteran                                                               
to file  the claim in exchange  for a percentage of  the benefit.                                                               
Sometimes the  percentage is high  and the veteran does  not know                                                               
that  a  VSO   offers  the  same  service  free   of  charge.  He                                                               
acknowledged  that   some  veterans   may  choose   a  for-profit                                                               
business, but the  bill ensures that they know  about the no-cost                                                               
alternative.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS  asked  if  the   for-profit  providers  fill  a                                                               
valuable niche.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  REVAK replied  we  wouldn't  want to  do  away with  the                                                               
services provided free  of charge to veterans, many  of which are                                                               
nonprofits  working in  conjunction  with the  state through  the                                                               
Division  of  Veterans Affairs.  He  described  it as  a  public-                                                               
private partnership.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:27:56 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HOLLAND  added  that  many   good  faith  providers  are                                                               
probably  veterans.   This  bill  is  to   ensure  that  veterans                                                               
understand   that  there   is  an   alternative  to   paying  for                                                               
representation. He acknowledged that  it sometimes would be worth                                                               
paying for the service if an expert in the field is needed.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  REVAK related  that he  received wonderful  service from                                                               
disabled  veteran  organizations  when he  was  reintegrating  to                                                               
become  a veteran.  However, he  has learned  about veterans  who                                                               
were offered services  for up to 30 percent of  the benefits they                                                               
would receive.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO  invited Verdie Bowen  to provide  information and                                                               
state the administration's position on the bill.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:29:32 PM                                                                                                                    
VERDIE  BOWEN,  Administrative   Director  of  Veterans  Affairs,                                                               
Office  of Veterans  Affairs, Department  of Military  & Veterans                                                               
Affairs  (DMVA), Anchorage,  Alaska, said  he had  not asked  the                                                               
governor  for his  position  on SB  40 but  he  thought he  would                                                               
support it. He  related that a number of  veterans have forgotten                                                               
that they signed  paperwork with a law firm in  another state and                                                               
are very  surprised when  the benefit  they receive  is up  to 40                                                               
percent less than what they  expected. The law says that entities                                                               
serving at cost  are paid before the veteran. He  said his office                                                               
sees one or two  of these veterans a month and  the shame is that                                                               
they did not know that they  could have received the same service                                                               
free of charge.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Responding to  Senator Stevens' question, Mr.  Bowen said private                                                               
sector  attorneys serve  a purpose  when a  certain expertise  is                                                               
needed and some serve pro bono for veterans.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS asked  if  he had  any idea  of  the numbers  of                                                               
veterans that have been affected.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:32:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BOWEN replied the average is  probably 50 veterans a year. He                                                               
explained that  prior to  the 2017  Appeals Modernization  Act it                                                               
was not  legal for  for-profit law firms  to charge  veterans for                                                               
these  services.  He said  his  office  is seeing  more  veterans                                                               
caught in this legal loophole every month.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:33:18 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  COSTELLO   opened  public   testimony  on  SB   40;  after                                                               
determining  no   one  wished  to  testify,   she  closed  public                                                               
testimony on SB 40. She noted  the letters of support in the bill                                                               
packets.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:33:38 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:34:02 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COSTELLO reconvened the meeting and solicited a motion.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:34:06 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HOLLAND  moved to report  SB 40, work  order 32-LS0231\A,                                                               
from  committee  with  individual  recommendations  and  attached                                                               
fiscal note(s).                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO  found no  objection and SB  40 was  reported from                                                               
the Senate Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:34:35 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair Costello  adjourned the Senate Labor  and Commerce Standing                                                               
Committee meeting at 2:34 p.m.