ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         March 16, 2009                                                                                         
                           1:39 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hollis French, Chair                                                                                                    
Senator Bill Wielechowski, Vice Chair                                                                                           
Senator Lesil McGuire                                                                                                           
Senator Gene Therriault                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kim Elton                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 52                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to scheduling  Salvia divinorum and Salvinorin A                                                               
as controlled substances."                                                                                                      
     MOVED SB 52 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 51                                                                                                              
"An  Act  relating  to  the installation  of  window  tinting  in                                                               
automobiles."                                                                                                                   
     MOVED CSSB 51(TRA) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 96                                                                                                              
"An  Act relating  to nonpayment  of child  support; relating  to                                                               
certain judicial  and administrative  orders for  medical support                                                               
of a child;  relating to periodic review and  adjustment of child                                                               
support  orders; relating  to  relief  from administrative  child                                                               
support orders;  relating to  child support  arrearages; relating                                                               
to  medical support  of  a  child and  the  Alaska Native  family                                                               
assistance  program; amending  Rule 90.3,  Alaska Rules  of Civil                                                               
Procedure; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                
     MOVED CSSB 96 (HSS) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 10                                                                                                  
Urging  the  United   States  Congress  to  adopt   S.  371,  the                                                               
Respecting States  Rights and Concealed Carry  Reciprocity Act of                                                               
2009.                                                                                                                           
     MOVED SJR 10 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 17(JUD)                                                                                       
Urging the United States Congress to reject H.R. 45, the Blair                                                                  
Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009.                                                                        
     MOVED SCS CSHJR(JUD) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB  52                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: SALVIA DIVINORUM AS CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE                                                                           
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) THERRIAULT                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
01/21/09       (S)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/9/09                                                                                
01/21/09       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/21/09       (S)       HSS, JUD, FIN                                                                                          
02/11/09       (S)       HSS AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
02/11/09       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/11/09       (S)       MINUTE(HSS)                                                                                            
02/23/09       (S)       HSS AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
02/23/09       (S)       Moved SB 52 Out of Committee                                                                           
02/23/09       (S)       MINUTE(HSS)                                                                                            
02/25/09       (S)       HSS RPT   1DP 3NR 1AM                                                                                  
02/25/09       (S)       DP: DYSON                                                                                              
02/25/09       (S)       NR: DAVIS, ELLIS, PASKVAN                                                                              
02/25/09       (S)       AM: THOMAS                                                                                             
03/02/09       (S)       JUD AT 2:00 PM BELTZ 211                                                                               
03/02/09       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/02/09       (S)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
03/13/09       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 211                                                                               
03/13/09       (S)       Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled                                                                       
03/16/09       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 211                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB  51                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: MOTOR VEHICLE WINDOW TINTING                                                                                       
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) FRENCH                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
01/21/09       (S)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/9/09                                                                                
01/21/09       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/21/09       (S)       TRA, JUD                                                                                               
02/24/09       (S)       TRA AT 1:00 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
02/24/09       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/24/09       (S)       MINUTE(TRA)                                                                                            
03/03/09       (S)       TRA AT 1:00 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
03/03/09       (S)       Moved CSSB  51(TRA) Out of Committee                                                                   
03/03/09       (S)       MINUTE(TRA)                                                                                            
03/05/09       (S)       TRA RPT CS  1DP 1NR 2AM  SAME TITLE                                                                    
03/05/09       (S)       DP: KOOKESH                                                                                            
03/05/09       (S)       NR: MEYER                                                                                              
03/05/09       (S)       AM: DAVIS, PASKVAN                                                                                     
03/09/09       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 211                                                                               
03/09/09       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/09/09       (S)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
03/16/09       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 211                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB  96                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: CHILD SUPPORT/ CASH MEDICAL SUPPORT                                                                                
SPONSOR(s): HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
02/04/09       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/04/09       (S)       HSS, JUD, FIN                                                                                          
02/25/09       (S)       HSS AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
02/25/09       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/25/09       (S)       MINUTE(HSS)                                                                                            
03/02/09       (S)       HSS AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
03/02/09       (S)       Moved CSSB  96(HSS) Out of Committee                                                                   
03/02/09       (S)       MINUTE(HSS)                                                                                            
03/03/09       (S)       HSS RPT CS  2DP 2NR      NEW TITLE                                                                     
03/03/09       (S)       DP: DAVIS, PASKVAN                                                                                     
03/03/09       (S)       NR: THOMAS, ELLIS                                                                                      
03/11/09       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 211                                                                               
03/11/09       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/11/09       (S)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
03/16/09       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 211                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SJR 10                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: ADOPT S. 371 IN CONGRESS                                                                                           
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) THOMAS                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
02/27/09       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/27/09       (S)       JUD                                                                                                    
03/13/09       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 211                                                                               
03/13/09       (S)       SALVIA    DIVINORUM     AS    CONTROLLED                                                               
                         SUBSTANCE                                                                                              
03/16/09       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 211                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HJR 17                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: OPPOSE H.R. 45 IN CONGRESS                                                                                         
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) HARRIS                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
02/11/09       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/11/09       (H)       JUD                                                                                                    
02/16/09       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
02/16/09       (H)       Moved CSHJR 17(JUD) Out of Committee                                                                   
02/16/09       (H)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
02/18/09       (H)       JUD RPT CS(JUD) 6DP                                                                                    
02/18/09       (H)       DP: GRUENBERG, LYNN, COGHILL, HOLMES,                                                                  
                         GATTO, RAMRAS                                                                                          
02/25/09       (H)       TRANSMITTED TO (S)                                                                                     
02/25/09       (H)       VERSION: CSHJR 17(JUD)                                                                                 
02/27/09       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/27/09       (S)       JUD                                                                                                    
03/16/09       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 211                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR JOE THOMAS                                                                                                              
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau AK                                                                                                                       
POSITION STATEMENT:  Sponsor of SJR 10.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
PETE FELLMAN, Staff                                                                                                             
  to Representative John Harris                                                                                                 
Alaska Capitol Building                                                                                                         
Juneau AK                                                                                                                       
POSITION STATEMENT:  Introduced HJR 17 on behalf of the sponsor.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:39:46 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  HOLLIS   FRENCH  called  the  Senate   Judiciary  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 1:39  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order  were  Senators  Therriault, McGuire  and  French.  Senator                                                               
Wielechowski arrived soon thereafter.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
        SB  52-SALVIA DIVINORUM AS CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:40:17 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR FRENCH announced the consideration  of SB 52. The committee                                                               
heard the bill last week and public testimony was taken.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:40:28 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR THERRIAULT,  speaking as  sponsor, said someone  from the                                                               
Interior contacted him  and suggested it would  be appropriate to                                                               
assess a  fine and  place an age  limit on use  of the  drug. But                                                               
when he  looked at the drugs  on the current schedule  he decided                                                               
that  adopting that  stance would  likely  result in  subsequent.                                                               
legislation to remove  drugs from the schedule.  He doesn't sense                                                               
that the  public wants to do  that so he is  comfortable with the                                                               
bill as proposed.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THERRIAULT moved  to report  SB 52  from committee  with                                                               
individual  recommendations and  attached  fiscal note(s).  There                                                               
being  no  objection,  SB  52 moved  from  the  Senate  Judiciary                                                               
Standing Committee.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
At ease at 1:41:44 pm.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
              SB  51-MOTOR VEHICLE WINDOW TINTING                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:42:38 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR FRENCH announced the consideration  of SB 51 and noted that                                                               
the transportation committee substitute  is before the committee.                                                               
Public testimony and committee discussion was taken previously.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:43:04 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI moved to report  CS for SB 51 from committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and attached  fiscal  note(s).                                                               
There  being no  objection, CSSB  51(TRA) moved  from the  Senate                                                               
Judiciary Standing Committee.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
At ease at 1:43:39 pm.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
           SB  96-CHILD SUPPORT/ CASH MEDICAL SUPPORT                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:44:18 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR FRENCH  announced the consideration  of SB 96.  [Before the                                                               
committee was  CSSB 96(HSS).]  The bill  was presented  last week                                                               
including  the   definitions  and  an  explanation   of  the  new                                                               
statutory sections.  He said it  seems to be  a good idea  to add                                                               
cash medical  support order,  when necessary,  to give  the state                                                               
flexibility  when  disbursing  child   support  to  the  obligee.                                                               
Finding no committee discussion, he asked for a motion.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:45:08 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI moved to report  CS for SB 96 from committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and attached  fiscal  note(s).                                                               
There  being no  objection, CSSB  96(HSS) moved  from the  Senate                                                               
Judiciary Standing Committee.                                                                                                   
At ease at 1:45:21 pm.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                SJR 10-ADOPT S. 371 IN CONGRESS                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:46:52 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR FRENCH announced the consideration of SJR 10.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR JOE  THOMAS, Alaska State Legislature,  sponsor, said the                                                               
right to  keep and  bear arms  is cherished  by Alaskans.  SJR 10                                                               
calls for  passage of federal  legislation that  protects Alaskan                                                               
traditions.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Passage  of the  federal Respecting  States Rights  and Concealed                                                               
Carry  Reciprocity Act  will establish  a nationwide  reciprocity                                                               
agreement  for carrying  concealed  firearms. This  will allow  a                                                               
citizen who  is permitted to  carry a concealed firearm  in their                                                               
home state  to do  so in  states with similar  laws. Laws  of the                                                               
host state  must be followed  including laws  concerning specific                                                               
locations  where  firearms may  not  be  carried. Any  individual                                                               
prohibited by federal  law from carrying a  firearm will continue                                                               
to be prohibited under the bill.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Many states  currently offer reciprocity  to states  with similar                                                               
laws,  but these  agreements can  change or  lapse. For  example,                                                               
North Dakota  recently phased out training  requirements from the                                                               
concealed carry licensing process and  that resulted in the lapse                                                               
of  several reciprocity  agreements with  other states.  Shifting                                                               
agreements  can make  it difficult  for a  bearer of  a concealed                                                               
firearm  to  keep  track  of   which  states  offer  reciprocity.                                                               
Provisions  of  the  law  ensure that  residents  of  Alaska  and                                                               
Vermont,  which  have  unique   concealed  carry  laws,  are  not                                                               
prohibited from  enjoying the same  rights as the  residents from                                                               
states having more common conceal and carry laws.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:48:44 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR FRENCH asked for clarification  that there is not a uniform                                                               
rule with respect  to carrying a concealed firearm  from state to                                                               
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THOMAS  said  that's  the case  now,  but  this  federal                                                               
legislation would make a uniform rule.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH asked  if the federal legislation intends  to set up                                                               
an interstate concealed  carry compact to which  each state would                                                               
belong.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THOMAS  said  yes.  It's  the  same  concept  of  mutual                                                               
reciprocity  that  makes your  driver's  license  valid in  other                                                               
states.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH  noted that this  probably would have no  bearing on                                                               
the  relationship between  Alaska and  Canada; carrying  firearms                                                               
from Alaska  through Canada  to Washington  will remain  a fairly                                                               
major impediment.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THOMAS said that's correct.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:50:34 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  FRENCH noted  the letters  of  support from  the two  U.S.                                                               
Senators. Finding no  questions or anyone who  wanted to testify,                                                               
he closed public testimony and asked for a motion.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI moved  to report SJR 10  from committee with                                                               
individual  recommendations  and  attached zero  fiscal  note(s).                                                               
There being no  objection, SJR 10 move from  the Senate Judiciary                                                               
Standing Committee.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
At ease at 1:51:55 PM.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
               HJR 17-OPPOSE H.R. 45 IN CONGRESS                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:52:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR FRENCH announced  the consideration of HJR  17. [Before the                                                               
committee  was  CSHJR 17(JUD).]  He  noted  the companion  Senate                                                               
resolution in the bill packet.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
PETE FELLMAN,  Staff to  Representative John  Harris said  HJR 17                                                               
urges Congress  to reject H.R.  45, which  is known as  the Blair                                                               
Holt's  Firearm Licensing  and Record  of Sale  Act of  2009. The                                                               
sponsor  feels  the  federal  legislation is  out  of  step  with                                                               
Alaskan values.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The resolution is self defining,  he said, and offered to provide                                                               
a brief summary or answer questions.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH found  no questions  from the  committee. He  noted                                                               
that his  office reviewed  the resolution  and he  believes there                                                               
was  an agreement  with the  sponsor to  change one  word of  the                                                               
resolution.  On  page 2,  line  4,  the second  "Whereas"  clause                                                               
currently states  that "under H.R.  45, a firearm owner  could be                                                               
charged with a federal felony based  on the actions of a juvenile                                                               
who might  gain access to  the firearm;" and his  office believes                                                               
it will be a misdemeanor.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH moved Amendment 1 as follows:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                          AMENDMENT 1                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 4 following "charged with a":                                                                                 
          Delete "felony"                                                                                                       
          Insert "misdemeanor"                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Finding no objection, he announced that Amendment 1 carries.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:55:47 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR THERRIAULT asked Mr. Fellman what modifications were                                                                    
made in the House Judiciary Committee.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. FELLMAN explained that the second "WHEREAS" was inserted on                                                                 
page 1, lines 6-8.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH closed public testimony.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THERRIAULT moved  to report  the committee's  substitute                                                               
for  HJR 17  from committee  with individual  recommendations and                                                               
attached  fiscal  note.  There  being  no  objection,  SCS  CSHJR                                                               
17(JUD) moved from the Senate Judiciary Standing Committee.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:57:21 PM                                                                                                                    
There being no further business to come before the committee,                                                                   
Chair French adjourned the meeting at 1:57 pm.