ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE  HOUSE STATE AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE  March 3, 2026 3:18 p.m. DRAFT MEMBERS PRESENT Representative Ashley Carrick, Chair Representative Andi Story, Vice Chair Representative Rebecca Himschoot Representative Ky Holland Representative Sarah Vance Representative Kevin McCabe Representative Steve St. Clair MEMBERS ABSENT  All members present COMMITTEE CALENDAR  HOUSE BILL NO. 130 "An Act relating to flexible time credit for classified employees in the executive branch who are not eligible for overtime compensation." - MOVED CSHB 130(STA) OUT OF COMMITTEE HOUSE BILL NO. 250 "An Act establishing the crime of wearing a mask in public while acting as a peace officer; and providing for an effective date." - HEARD & HELD HOUSE BILL NO. 290 "An Act relating to delivery of resolutions by the governor." - MOVED HB 290 OUT OF COMMITTEE HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 10 Proposing an amendment to the Uniform Rules of the Alaska State Legislature relating to resolutions. - MOVED HCR 10 OUT OF COMMITTEE PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION  BILL: HB 130 SHORT TITLE: STATE EMPLOYEES: FLEXIBLE TIME CREDIT SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) JOSEPHSON 03/10/25 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS 03/10/25 (H) STA, FIN 02/10/26 (H) STA AT 3:15 PM GRUENBERG 120 02/10/26 (H) Heard & Held 02/10/26 (H) MINUTE(STA) 02/17/26 (H) STA AT 3:15 PM GRUENBERG 120 02/17/26 (H) Scheduled but Not Heard 02/24/26 (H) STA AT 3:15 PM GRUENBERG 120 02/24/26 (H) Heard & Held 02/24/26 (H) MINUTE(STA) 03/03/26 (H) STA AT 3:15 PM GRUENBERG 120 BILL: HB 250 SHORT TITLE: LAW ENFORCEMENT; CONCEALING ONE'S FACE SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) HANNAN 01/20/26 (H) PREFILE RELEASED 1/9/26 01/20/26 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS 01/20/26 (H) STA, JUD 02/10/26 (H) STA AT 3:15 PM GRUENBERG 120 02/10/26 (H) Heard & Held 02/10/26 (H) MINUTE(STA) 02/17/26 (H) STA AT 3:15 PM GRUENBERG 120 02/17/26 (H) Heard & Held 02/17/26 (H) MINUTE(STA) 02/24/26 (H) STA AT 3:15 PM GRUENBERG 120 02/24/26 (H) 03/03/26 (H) STA AT 3:15 PM GRUENBERG 120 BILL: HB 290 SHORT TITLE: DELIVERY OF RESOLUTIONS SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) HOLLAND 02/04/26 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS 02/04/26 (H) STA 02/21/26 (H) STA AT 3:15 PM GRUENBERG 120 02/21/26 (H) Heard & Held 02/21/26 (H) MINUTE(STA) 02/24/26 (H) STA AT 3:15 PM GRUENBERG 120 02/24/26 (H) Heard & Held 02/24/26 (H) MINUTE(STA) 03/03/26 (H) STA AT 3:15 PM GRUENBERG 120 BILL: HCR 10 SHORT TITLE: UNIFORM RULES: RESOLUTION DISTRIBUTION SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) HOLLAND 02/04/26 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS 02/04/26 (H) STA 02/21/26 (H) STA AT 3:15 PM GRUENBERG 120 02/21/26 (H) Heard & Held 02/21/26 (H) MINUTE(STA) 02/24/26 (H) STA AT 3:15 PM GRUENBERG 120 02/24/26 (H) Heard & Held 02/24/26 (H) MINUTE(STA) 03/03/26 (H) STA AT 3:15 PM GRUENBERG 120 WITNESS REGISTER REPRESENTATIVE ANDY JOSEPHSON Alaska State Legislature Juneau, Alaska POSITION STATEMENT: As prime sponsor, commented on the proposed amendments to HB 130. KEN ALPER, Staff Representative Andy Josephson Alaska State Legislature Juneau, Alaska POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions regarding proposed amendments to HB 130 on behalf of Representative Josephson, prime sponsor. REPRESENTATIVE SARA HANNAN Alaska State Legislature Juneau, Alaska POSITION STATEMENT: As prime sponsor, answered questions on HB 250, Version I. SARAH HIEB, Administrative Investigator Alaska Police Standards Council Juneau, Alaska POSITION STATEMENT: Provided testimony on HB250. AYDEN NICHOL, Staff Representative Ky Holland Alaska State Legislature Juneau, Alaska POSITION STATEMENT: Provided answers to committee questions from a previous hearing on HB 290 and HCR 10 on behalf of the prime sponsor, Representative Holland. ACTION NARRATIVE 3:18:35 PM CHAIR ASHLEY CARRICK called the House State Affairs Standing Committee meeting to order at 3:18 p.m. Representatives St. Clair, McCabe, Vance, Holland, Himschoot, Story, and Carrick were present at the call to order. HB 130-STATE EMPLOYEES: FLEXIBLE TIME CREDIT  3:20:11 PM CHAIR CARRICK announced the first order of business would be HOUSE BILL NO. 130, "An Act relating to flexible time credit for classified employees in the executive branch who are not eligible for overtime compensation." 3:20:28 PM REPRESENTATIVE ANDY JOSEPHSON, Alaska State Legislature, as prime sponsor of HB 130, said he reviewed the amendments in the committee file and found the first two helpful in "framing the bill itself." The third one was objectionable in that it would position people in the cohort in a worse position and, potentially, that without preapproval, flexible ("flex") time would not come at all. He deferred to his staff for further comment. 3:22:05 PM CHAIR CARRICK announced the committee would entertain amendments. 3:22:16 PM REPRESENTATIVE ST. CLAIR move to adopt Amendment 1 to HB 130, labeled 34-LS0582\N.1, A. Radford, 2/26/26, which read as follows: Page 2, line 9: Delete ", including a method of resolving disputes," Page 2, line 9, following "employee.": Insert "The policy or collective bargaining agreement may include a method of resolving disputes related to the accrual and use of flexible time credits and a process for a supervisor to approve or deny a request to use flexible time credits." CHAIR CARRICK objected for the purpose of discussion. REPRESENTATIVE ST. CLAIR spoke to Amendment 1. The intent is to let the supervisor approve or deny requests for flex time. 3:23:00 PM KEN ALPER, Staff, Representative Andy Josephson, Alaska State Legislature, on behalf of Representative Josephson, prime sponsor of HB 130, echoed the previous comment of the sponsor that Amendment 1 is clarifying. He advised that both the general government union and the supervisors' union have specific provisions stating that use of flexible time is subject to supervisor approval. He said Representative Josephson is "fine with the amendment." 3:24:00 PM CHAIR CARRICK removed her objection. There being no further objection, Amendment 1 was adopted. 3:24:19 PM REPRESENTATIVE HOLLAND moved to adopt Amendment 2 to HB 130, as amended, labeled 34-LS0582\N.2, A. Radford, 3/2/26, which read as follows: Page 5, line 11: Delete "methods" Insert "rules" Page 5, line 12, following "compensation": Insert ", including establishing a cap on the  amount of flexible time credit an employee may accrue  to ensure that the accrual of flexible time credit  does not impair the efficient provision of state  services or necessitate the hiring of additional  staff" CHAIR CARRICK objected for the purpose of discussion. REPRESENTATIVE HOLLAND said Amendment 2 would provide for a cap on the amount of flex time allowed. He said his research taught him that bargaining units generally do have rules regarding compensatory time. 3:26:06 PM MR. ALPER expressed that Amendment 2 is a fundamentally clarifying amendment. He confirmed that both union contracts have the same 200-hour cap, with approval subject to the supervisor. He noted that the bill sponsor has no issue with Amendment 2. CHAIR CARRICK removed her objection. There being no further objection, Amendment 2 was adopted. 3:27:01 PM REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE moved to adopt Amendment 3 to HB 130, as amended, labeled 34-LS0582\N.3, A. Radford, 3/2/26, which read as follows: Page 1, line 12, following "of": Insert "45 hours in" Page 2, line 6: Delete "." Insert "; (5) accrual of flexible time credit must be preapproved by the employee's direct supervisor, and the approval must be documented; (6) accrual of flexible time credit is limited to 120 hours for each fiscal year; unused flexible time credit may not be carried over to the next fiscal year, except under exceptional circumstances and by approval of the director of the division employing the employee; (7) use of flexible time credits requires advanced approval from the director of the division employing the employee, or by a person designated by the director to approve the requests; use of flexible time credits may be denied during a peak operation period, as defined in the division's policy, or if the employee's absence would impair division operations or the efficient provision of services." Page 2, line 9, following "employee.": Insert "However, a collective bargaining agreement may not reduce any management right provided in this section. (c) The Department of Administration shall track flexible time credit usage and prepare an annual report on any fiscal or operational effects of flexible time credit usage. On or before the first day of each regular session of the legislature, the department shall deliver the report to the senate secretary and chief clerk of the house of representatives and notify the legislature that the report is available." Page 5, line 11: Delete "methods" Insert "rules" Page 5, line 12, following "compensation": Insert ", including a method for collecting  information on the use of flexible time credits by  employees and any fiscal or operational effects of  flexible time credit usage.  * Sec. 3. The uncodified law of the State of Alaska is amended by adding a new section to read: REPORT TO THE LEGISLATURE. On or before the first day of the Second Regular Session of the Thirty-Fifth Alaska State Legislature, the Department of Administration shall deliver the first annual report required under AS 39.20.355(c), enacted by sec. 1 of this Act, to the senate secretary and the chief clerk of the house of representatives and notify the legislature that the report is available." Renumber the following bill section accordingly. CHAIR CARRICK objected for the purpose of discussion. REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE spoke to Amendment 3. He said HB 130 creates a new type of time off in statute; it requires clear structure and accountability. Flex time only occurs after 45 hours per week. The work needs to be more than expected a salaried worker. The amendment requires pre-approval and documentation before flex time can occur. The amendment puts a cap of 120 hours per fiscal year. He gave examples of people using multi-months of flex time. The collective bargaining agreement (CBA) has caps, and this may not be in the CBA as it is negotiated every three to five years. Division directors may have the ability to deny flex time when absences could impair services. Finally, the amendment requires reporting to the legislature on the impact of flex time. If the legislature creates a new benefit, then it should be able to measure its costs and benefits. It puts in guardrails for flex time. 3:31:15 PM MR. ALPER said Representative Josephson is opposed to Amendment 3. A lot of guardrails are already in a CBA. The intent of the bill was to put a minimum standard for CBAs. Amendment 3 puts in a ceiling and puts in more requirements than the current contracts. This sets a 120-hour cap instead of 200 hours. There are concerns about not carrying hours over the fiscal year. The bill requires the division director to approve flex time use instead of the supervisor. The next generation of CBAs would be stricter on the use of comp time than in current CBAs. 3:34:44 PM MR. ALPER, in response to a question from Chair Carrick, confirmed that flex time has no cash value; therefore, it cannot be "cashed out" at the end of service. 3:35:25 PM REPRESENTATIVE ST. CLAIR said he did not see Amendment 3 as being unreasonable, particularly regarding flex time "resets" at the end of the year. He said flex time is a non-monetary benefit. He said, "I see this as a management issue and not necessarily a legislative issue." 3:36:12 PM REPRESENTATIVE HOLLAND said that he had written an amendment very similar to this one to provide structure. He said it was difficult especially with the cross between the world of the non-exempt and exempt employees. He dialed it back down and leaves it up to the units to work out the details. This amendment was getting into more detail and awareness of a particular situation. He can't support this level of detail and the reporting time that is involved; it would add an administrative cost. He said he would not support Amendment 3, but he supports the intent behind some of its ideas. 3:38:57 PM REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE stated when a person goes to a supervisor position, an employee is expected to work more. A supervisor has a different level of use than management. If a director doesn't know who his supervisors are then that's a different issue. He said that by not carrying it into the next year, state employees will use it or lose it. An employee could accrue leave, and a manager is supposed to manage that. The CBA can be rewritten. He is very concerned that this flex time should be up to the supervisor and the legislature shouldn't be dabbling in this area. 3:41:46 PM CHAIR CARRICK said she is fundamentally opposed to Amendment 3. It sets a ceiling instead of a floor. This amendment has a reporting requirement. She is going to maintain her objection. REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE gave an example of United, whose pilots flew enough open time each month that the pilots could have the last three months of the year off. He said sometimes a cap is good. 3:43:24 PM REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT said she would assume Representative McCabe would support a cap for correctional officers, too. REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE answered, "I always have." 3:43:38 PM MR. ALPER clarified that 200 hours per year can't be exceeded. REPRESENTATIVE ST. CLAIR stated that the comparison of the Department of Corrections (DOC) and other agencies is comparing apples [to] oranges because DOC must be operational 24 hours a day. REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE said contracts can be rewritten easily to remove something established by the legislature; therefore, he advised that "if the legislature is going to dabble, then the legislature needs to do it right." 3:45:30 PM CHAIR CARRICK maintained her objection to the motion to adopt Amendment 3. A roll call vote was taken. Representatives Vance, McCabe, and St. Clair voted in favor of Amendment 3 to HB 130. Representatives Himschoot, Holland, Story, and Carrick voted against it. Therefore, Amendment 3 failed to be adopted by a vote of 3-4. REPRESENTATIVE ST. CLAIR asked to see the documents offered before the committee took further action. CHAIR CARRICK asked Mr. Alper to send the documents he referenced to the committee. 3:47:08 PM REPRESENTATIVE STORY moved to report HB 130, as amended, out of committee with individual recommendations and the accompanying fiscal notes and authorizing Legislative Legal Services to make any necessary technical and conforming changes. REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE objected. 3:47:50 PM A roll call vote was taken. Representatives Story, Himschoot, Holland, and Carrick voted in favor of the motion to report HB 130, as amended, out of committee with individual recommendations and the accompanying fiscal notes. Representatives Vance, McCabe, and St. Clair voted against it. Therefore, CSHB 130(STA) was reported out of the House State Affairs Standing Committee by a vote of 4-3. 3:48:35 PM The committee took an at-ease from 3:48 p.m. to 3:51 p.m. HB 250-LAW ENFORCEMENT; CONCEALING ONE'S FACE  3:51:07 PM CHAIR CARRICK announced that the next order of business would be HOUSE BILL NO. 250, "An Act establishing the crime of wearing a mask in public while acting as a peace officer; and providing for an effective date." [Before the committee, adopted as a working document on 2/10/26, was the proposed CS for HB 250, Version 34-LS1284\I, C. Radford, 1/21/26, ("Version I").] CHAIR CARRICK welcomed Sarah Hieb with the Alaska Police Standards Council. Chief Case was invited to join today, but he was not available. 3:52:40 PM REPRESENTATIVE ST. CLAIR stated that the Anchorage police chief opposed this legislation. California legislation has been used as an example and only includes federal agencies. The Los Angeles Police Department is not enforcing [this legislation]. He said anyone can ask an officer for their badge number and the officer should comply. He is opposed to this legislation. CHAIR CARRICK said she is hesitant to put it into statute. Five years ago, body-worm cameras ("body cams") were not standard and were opposed by law enforcement agencies and now law enforcement are very supportive of this tool to help avoid misinterpretation. 3:54:55 PM REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE noted the committee had considered right to privacy in another meeting but are not concerned about the rights of privacy of law officers. At times, the public has wanted body cams and not wanted them other times. He is concerned about the safety of Alaska law enforcement officers and their families. He expressed concerns about making a video or doing anything with voices. Officers are trying to protect themselves. Officers didn't sign up for people to go to their homes and dox them. A person can lift an officer's likeness in film doing something. For now, he is concerned about protecting those officers. 3:57:46 PM REPRESENTATIVE SARA HANNAN, Alaska State Legislature, as prime sponsor of HB 250, Version I answered questions. There was opposition from the police of chief in Anchorage and two other police unions opposed. There were no references to doxing. This is not a practice of Alaska law enforcement. Frequently, Alaska sees federal standards coming to the states. If Alaska has a standard that Alaska police departments use, then this won't be an issue. She talked to the need for deescalation or a community police officer having a mental health crisis. This bill affirms the standards that peace officers train in Alaska and currently uses. 4:00:30 PM REPRESENTATIVE ST. CLAIR stated that he obviously opposes this legislation. He said he has asked, how often officers have been seen masked in the manner described, and no one can tell him. In some example protests, the protestors are masked. The law enforcement said this legislation is not needed, and he supports them. REPRESENTATIVE VANCE stated that Representative Hannan wants to establish a clear standard for peace officers. She said instead of having it as a standard, HB 250 would make wearing a mask a crime. She asked Representative Hannan to explain her approach. 4:02:20 PM REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN replied that the Alaska Police Council does not set standards for all levels of law enforcement in Alaska. She wants to make sure all levels from Village Public Safety Officers (VPSOs) to federal officers follow this law. REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE said that the committee is talking about Minneapolis and a couple deaths. If the Minneapolis police were there to protect the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers, it likely wouldn't have happened. A federal ICE officer would come to Alaska with the support of local officers. He said that Alaska needs to protect Alaska officers. He is opposed to this bill. 4:04:40 PM REPRESENTATIVE STORY said she wished that Alaska didn't need this piece of legislation. She is trying to prevent something that may happen in Alaska. Peace officers should be working together at all different levels. CHAIR CARRICK said she appreciates the discussion and she noted that Representative St. Clair is a former police officer. This legislation is very preventive and becoming a widespread issue in other states. She said kudos to Alaska's law enforcement and the committee for addressing an area where the state can prevent an issue. 4:07:30 PM SARAH HIEB, Administrative Investigator, Alaska Police Standards Council, provided testimony on HB 250. She said the standards council doesn't have a position on this legislation at this time. 4:07:50 PM REPRESENTATIVE VANCE offered her understanding that the bill sponsor wanted "to take action in response to what happened" and thought it "would prevent what is happening across the nation." She stated that it was an accidental death. She asked how preventing peace officers from wearing masks would prevent accidental deaths. CHAIR CARRICK said that not masking is a way to prevent escalation. A lot is lost with mask, and she wishes that protestors would not mask as well. Law enforcement officers are acting as public figures and agents of the law. 4:10:50 PM REPRESENTATIVE VANCE asked if there is data showing a direct correlation of escalation resulting from masking. She pointed out that during the COVID years, masking was required by the government. She has a concern about the impact on recruitment and retention of public safety, which is a nationwide problem. Retirements from 2019-2022 are up 30 percent and resignations are up 47 percent too! Public perception is a factor in recruiting and retention. There are law enforcements agencies saying that HB 250 is not needed. It won't prevent an unfortunate death but make it a crime for a police officer to wear a mask when the officer feels it was necessary to wear one. REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN said the bill was drafted before the death occurred. She reemphasized how quickly things escalate when people are not identifiable. She wants to preserve the standards of officers in Alaska. She said body cams are not required in Alaska but are good for law enforcement to have verification of their interactions with the public. She noted she has an additional amendment pertaining to Special Weapons and Tactics (SWAT). 4:18:25 PM REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT stated that yesterday's hearing was about federal overreach. She shared about a family in Minneapolis trying to get food for a family who got pepper sprayed. She asked, what is the standard for an identification of an officer? MS. HIEB replied that the Alaska Police Standards Council do not have any standards in this area. REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT asked why peace officers wear nametags. MS. HIEB said generally so officers can be identified. REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT asked how the council sets its standards. MS. HIEB replied that the council sets minimum hiring and training standards. There are regulations on how a person could fall below those standards and lose their certificate. 4:21:22 PM REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT asked whether an officer holds a license. MS. HIEB replied that officers have a certificate after working for a full year and meeting all the requirements. REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT asked whether there is a code of ethics. MS. HIEB replied yes, there is a code of ethics. REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT asked who writes the code of ethics. MS. HIEB answered that it is in the regulations and adopted by council members. 4:22:57 PM REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE stated regardless of when the bill was written; the Minnesota event happened because politics got involved. He asked, "Are we doing the same thing?" Badging and name tags fall to the departments not the statewide council. MS. HIEB replied that it is a departmental thing how officers respond. REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE stated legislators make a mistake when they get into police department business. CHAIR CARRICK said she heard a lot of different perspectives and appreciated the discussion. 4:25:25 PM REPRESENTATIVE STORY stated that one thing that happened during the COVID pandemic was a lot of retirements not limited to police officers. Public servants interact with others. She doesn't think that politicians involved in the Minnesota influenced what happened. She said it is a shame that the federal government felt officers had to mask. REPRESENTATIVE VANCE said while she disagrees with it being a crime for a police officer to mask; she appreciates the bill sponsor trying to find a workable solution. 4:28:34 PM REPRESENTATIVE VANCE asked if the changes by the bill sponsor would be made through amendments. If committee members could see the amendments then they wouldn't be duplicated. 4:29:30 PM REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN said an amendment has been distributed to some offices. REPRESENTATIVE ST. CLAIR said tomorrow as a deadline is short notice considering the sponsor's amendment. CHAIR CARRICK said if committee members don't have them back by the deadline let office know. REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE asked if someone from the Department of Law would be available for the amendment process. 4:31:35 PM CHAIR CARRICK announced that HB 250 was held over. HB 290-DELIVERY OF RESOLUTIONS  HCR 10-UNIFORM RULES: RESOLUTION DISTRIBUTION  4:32:03 PM CO-CHAIR CARRICK announced that the final order of business would be HOUSE BILL NO. 290, "An Act relating to delivery of resolutions by the governor" and HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 10, Proposing an amendment to the Uniform Rules of the Alaska State Legislature relating to resolutions. CHAIR CARRICK noted that no amendments were received. 4:32:28 PM REPRESENTATIVE HOLLAND, as prime sponsor of HB 290 and HCR 10, presented and answered questions. He said HCR 10 makes a change to the Uniform Rules on how resolutions are distributed, and HB 290 sets a deadline. There is a fair amount of variable time that it takes the legislation to get distributed. He shared an example of a wildfire resolution that didn't get to the designated recipients until October. This is an important tool, and these changes are to look critically at the process. AYDEN NICHOL, Staff, Representative Ky Holland, Alaska State Legislature, on behalf of Representative Holland, prime sponsor of HB 290 and HCR 10, gave answers to questions asked by the committee during a previous hearing on both pieces of legislation. He shared a research memo in conversations with Representative Vance and the Office of the Lieutenant Governor. The record shows the most recent overhaul of Uniform Rules in 1963 was a frenzied process without any justification for this rule. In 15 other states, the resolutions are not signed by the governor. In another eight states, there is a timeline for the governor to sign resolution, and it is the extension of the bill. 4:38:14 PM REPRESENTATIVE VANCE stated on line 6 of the legislation, all resolutions will be permanently filed with the Office of the Lieutenant Governor. The Clerk or Secretary shall send the resolutions to the distribution list. She asked then, "How do resolutions get to the Office of the Lieutenant Governor?" MR. NICHOL replied through the Governor's office, the resolutions get sent to the Office of the Lieutenant Governor. 4:41:26 PM REPRESENTATIVE STORY moved to report HB 290 out of committee, with individual recommendations and the accompanying fiscal notes. REPRESENTATIVE ST. CLAIR objected. He observed all the references say "joint resolution" but nowhere in the bill does it say joint resolution. MR. NICHOL replied that only joint resolutions are subject to the governor's signature. REPRESENTATIVE ST. CLAIR read proposed language in Section 1 of HB 290, beginning on page 1, line 8, which read as follows: If a resolution is transmitted to the governor while  the legislature is in session, the governor shall  return the resolution within 15 days, Sundays excepted. If a resolution is transmitted to the  governor while the legislature is not in session, the  governor shall return the resolution within 20 days,  Sundays excepted. REPRESENTATIVE ST. CLAIR then reiterated his concern. CHAIR CARRICK replied only joint resolutions are under this transmittal process. MR. NICHOL answered agreed. CHAIR CARRICK said that it should be reviewed to see if clarification is needed. REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE said that he will amend it on the floor. CHAIR CARRICK said she was personally not opposed to the amendment. REPRESENTATIVE VANCE stated if there are still questions about the bills, then it is the responsibility of the committee to clarify. Both bodies are hesitant to open Uniform Rules. CHAIR CARRICK noted that there was ample time to put in amendments to address concerns. If there are concerns about the timeline for amendments, please let her office know. 4:47:30 PM REPRESENTATIVE HOLLAND said this will help us prepare for the next step in the journey of this legislation. This has been reviewed and discussed by Legislative Legal Services, The Office of the Lieutenant Governor, the Chief Clerk's Office and the Senate Secretary's Office. REPRESENTATIVE ST. CLAIR said he apologized that it just came to him at the last minute. He didn't get his amendment back. He said he still maintains his objection for clarity. 4:49:11 PM REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE said he is excited to open the Uniform Rules and is comfortable doing that on the House floor. 4:49:48 PM CHAIR CARRICK said that last minute concerns can come up and the committee reacts to them. The House State Affairs Standing Committee is often the first committee of referral, so it doesn't need to put out a polished bill. The committee makes a lot of amendments, and it has done due diligence. REPRESENTATIVE ST. CLAIR maintained his objection. 4:51:20 PM A roll call vote was taken. Representatives Story, Himschoot, Holland, and Carrick voted in favor of the motion to report HB 290 out of committee, with individual recommendations and the accompanying fiscal notes. Representatives St. Clair, Vance, and McCabe voted against it. Therefore, HB 290 was reported out of the House State Affairs Standing Committee by a vote of 4-3. 4:52:16 PM REPRESENTATIVE STORY move to report HCR 10 out of committee with individual recommendations and the accompanying fiscal notes. REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE objected. He remarked that he saw no legal memorandums drafted. He said he would like to see any legal memos that any committee member has had drafted put into the committee file. 4:53:13 PM The committee took an at-ease from 4:53 p.m. to 4:55 p.m. 4:55:13 PM CHAIR CARRICK noted that there were no legal memos to HCR 10 sent to her office. She requested members send all future memos to her office and the memos will be uploaded. REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE maintained his objection. 4:55:54 PM A roll call vote was taken. Representatives Story, Himschoot, Holland, and Carrick voted in favor of the motion to report HCR 10 out of committee with individual recommendations and the accompanying fiscal notes. Representatives McCabe, St. Clair, and Vance voted against it. Therefore, HCR 10 was reported out of the House State Affairs Standing Committee by a vote of 4-3. 4:57:14 PM ADJOURNMENT  There being no further business before the committee, the House State Affairs Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 4:57 p.m.