ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
             HOUSE STATE AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                       February 13, 2025                                                                                        
                           3:17 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ashley Carrick, Chair                                                                                            
Representative Andi Story, Vice Chair                                                                                           
Representative Rebecca Himschoot                                                                                                
Representative Ky Holland                                                                                                       
Representative Sarah Vance                                                                                                      
Representative Kevin McCabe                                                                                                     
Representative Elexie Moore                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 10                                                                                                               
"An Act relating to the Board of Regents of the University of                                                                   
Alaska."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 21                                                                                                               
"An Act relating to voter  preregistration for minors at least 16                                                               
years  of   age;  and  relating   to  confidentiality   of  voter                                                               
registration and  preregistration records  of minors at  least 16                                                               
years of age."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 43                                                                                                               
"An Act relating to elections; relating to voters; relating to                                                                  
the crime of unlawful interference with voting; and providing                                                                   
for an effective date."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 10                                                                                                                   
SHORT TITLE: ADD FACULTY MEMBER UNIV BOARD OF REGENTS                                                                           
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) CARRICK                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
01/22/25       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/10/25                                                                               
01/22/25       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/22/25       (H)       STA, FIN                                                                                               
02/06/25       (H)       STA AT 3:15 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
02/06/25       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/06/25       (H)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
02/13/25       (H)       STA AT 3:15 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 21                                                                                                                   
SHORT TITLE: VOTER PREREGISTRATION FOR MINORS                                                                                   
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) STORY                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
01/22/25       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/10/25                                                                               
01/22/25       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/22/25       (H)       STA, JUD                                                                                               
02/11/25       (H)       STA AT 3:15 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
02/11/25       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/11/25       (H)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
02/13/25       (H)       STA AT 3:15 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 43                                                                                                                   
SHORT TITLE: ELECTIONS, VOTING, BALLOTS                                                                                         
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) SCHRAGE                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
01/22/25       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/17/25                                                                               
01/22/25       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/22/25       (H)       STA, FIN                                                                                               
02/11/25       (H)       STA AT 3:15 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
02/11/25       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/11/25       (H)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
02/13/25       (H)       STA AT 3:15 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
JILL DUMESNIL, President                                                                                                        
United Academics                                                                                                                
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 10.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ABIGAIL SCHIFFMILLER, Graduate Student                                                                                          
University of Alaska Fairbanks                                                                                                  
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 10.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DR. MATTHEW CUELLAR, Associate Professor                                                                                        
University of Alaska Anchorage                                                                                                  
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 10.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
JACQUELINE CASON, Faculty Senate President                                                                                      
University of Alaska Anchorage                                                                                                  
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 10.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
STUART RELAY, Staff                                                                                                             
Representative Ashley Carrick                                                                                                   
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
POSITION STATEMENT:  Summarized the changes in the committee                                                                  
substitute for HB 21.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CAROL BEECHER, Director                                                                                                         
Division of Elections                                                                                                           
Office of the Lieutenant Governor                                                                                               
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions during the hearing on HB                                                              
21 and HB 43.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT WELTON, representing self                                                                                                
Douglas, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 21 and HB 43.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHARLIE FRANZ, representing self                                                                                                
Homer, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to HB 21.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ROHN ANDERSON, Member                                                                                                           
Alaska Youth Vote                                                                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 21.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MIKE SHOWER                                                                                                             
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified and provided comments on HB 43.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
RANDY RUEDRICH, representing self                                                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to HB 43.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
PEGGY ROBINSON, representing self                                                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the hearing on HB 43.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHARLIE FRANZ, representing self                                                                                                
Homer, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to HB 43.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
LINDA MORNING, representing self                                                                                                
Kenai, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 43.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN BANKS, representing self                                                                                                  
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 43.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MICHELLE SPARCK, Director                                                                                                       
Get Out the Native Vote                                                                                                         
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the hearing on HB 43.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SUE SHERIF, Board Member                                                                                                        
League of Women Voters of Alaska                                                                                                
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 43.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SAMANTHA MINTZ-GENTZ, representing self                                                                                         
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 43.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHRISTOPHER CONSTANT, Chair                                                                                                     
Anchorage Assembly                                                                                                              
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 43.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DONNA ANDERSON, representing self                                                                                               
Kenai, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to HB 43.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
AMANDA NDEMO, Staff                                                                                                             
Representative Calvin Schrage                                                                                                   
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
POSITION STATEMENT:  On behalf of the prime sponsor,                                                                          
Representative Schrage, read the sectional analysis for HB 43.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CALVIN SCHRAGE                                                                                                   
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  As prime sponsor, discussed and answered                                                                 
questions about HB 43.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:17:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ASHLEY CARRICK  called the  House  State Affairs  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at  3:17 p.m.  Representatives Story,                                                               
Himschoot, Holland,  McCabe, Moore,  and Carrick were  present at                                                               
the call to  order.  Representative Vance arrived  as the meeting                                                               
was in progress.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        HB  10-ADD FACULTY MEMBER UNIV BOARD OF REGENTS                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
3:18:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK  announced that the  first order of  business would                                                               
be HOUSE  BILL NO. 10, "An  Act relating to the  Board of Regents                                                               
of the University of Alaska."                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:19:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK opened public testimony on HB 10.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:19:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JILL DUMESNIL, President, United  Academics, testified in support                                                               
of  HB 10.    She remarked  that adding  a  faculty regent  would                                                               
complement  the pre-existing  student regent  and ensure  faculty                                                               
perspectives  and   expertise  are  utilized.     She  said  that                                                               
currently  one  faculty  member,  a  faculty  alliance  chair  is                                                               
allowed  seven minutes  to address  the board  at each  quarterly                                                               
board meeting.  For all other  faculty members that wish to speak                                                               
directly  to the  board, they  must call  into a  one-hour public                                                               
testimony  and  are allowed  only  two  minutes  to speak.    She                                                               
expressed  that HB  10  has broad  support  from faculty  members                                                               
across Alaska's  universities, including the faculty  senates and                                                               
faculty unions.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:21:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ABIGAIL  SCHIFFMILLER,  Graduate  Student, University  of  Alaska                                                               
Fairbanks, testified  in support  of HB 10.   She  explained that                                                               
the core  missions at the  University of Alaska are  teaching and                                                               
research.   She  remarked  that  as a  graduate  student she  has                                                               
contributed to  both these missions.   She supports  the addition                                                               
of  a  faculty  regent  because  it  aligns  with  the  two  core                                                               
missions.  She remarked that it  is critical to the state and its                                                               
stakeholders.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:24:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MATTHEW CUELLAR,  PhD, Associate Professor, University  of Alaska                                                               
Anchorage, testified  in support of HB  10.  He remarked  that HB                                                               
10 is a  transformative step for the university  system and would                                                               
empower the  Board of Regents  to more fully represent  the voice                                                               
of the  faculty, an important  but often  underrepresented group.                                                               
By creating a  space for inclusive dialog, this bill  calls for a                                                               
more collaborative and responsive leadership structure.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:25:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JACQUELINE CASON, Faculty Senate  President, University of Alaska                                                               
Anchorage, testified in  support of HB 10.  She  reported that an                                                               
article from  the Inside Higher Education  publication noted that                                                               
faculty members are the university  staff that students trust the                                                               
most.   She said  this is because  students know  faculty members                                                               
well.    She remarked  that  because  the teaching  and  learning                                                               
relationship  are  critical  to  the university  mission,  it  is                                                               
important to have this voice.   She remarked that a comprehensive                                                               
understanding  of  the  university  system  would  foster  better                                                               
decision-making.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:28:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK closed public testimony on HB 10.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:28:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLLAND  noted that when the  bill was introduced,                                                               
he had asked questions about  qualifications for faculty regency.                                                               
He said he  reached out to faculty and expressed  his support for                                                               
the bill in its current formulation.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:29:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK set an amendment  deadline and announced that HB 10                                                               
was held over.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
            HB  21-VOTER PREREGISTRATION FOR MINORS                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
3:29:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK announced that the  next order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO. 21, "An  Act relating to voter preregistration for                                                               
minors at least 16 years  of age; and relating to confidentiality                                                               
of voter  registration and preregistration  records of  minors at                                                               
least 16 years of age."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:30:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  moved to  adopt the  proposed committee                                                               
substitute  (CS)   for  HB  21,  Version   34-LS0241\N,  Dunmire,                                                               
2/11/25, as a working document.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:30:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK objected for purposes of discussion.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:30:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STUART  RELAY, Staff,  Representative  Ashley Carrick,  presented                                                               
the summary  of changes [included  in the committee file]  to the                                                               
proposed CS  for HB 21.   The summary of changes  read as follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     *  Section 1.  AS 15.07.040  is amended  by adding  new                                                                    
     subsections to read:                                                                                                       
      (b)  A person  who is  at least  16 years  of age  and                                                                    
     under  18 years  of  age may  preregister  to vote.  To                                                                    
     preregister,  a  person  shall supply  the  information                                                                    
     required  under  AS   15.07.060(a)  to  a  registration                                                                    
     official or  a voter registration agency,  except that,                                                                    
     instead of a declaration that  the applicant will be 18                                                                    
     years of age or older within  90 days after the date of                                                                    
     registration  under  AS   15.07.060(a)(6),  the  person                                                                    
     shall supply a  declaration that the person  will be 18                                                                    
     years of age  or older within two years  after the date                                                                    
     of preregistration.                                                                                                        
      (c) Ninety days before a  person preregistered to vote                                                                    
     under (b) of this section  reaches 18 years of age, the                                                                    
     division  shall send,  by  nonforwardable  mail to  the                                                                    
     person's   registration  mailing   address,  a   notice                                                                    
     requesting  address  confirmation  or  correction.  The                                                                    
     notice  must   include  a  postage  prepaid   and  pre-                                                                    
     addressed  return card  on which  the person  may state                                                                    
     the person's current address.  The notice must indicate                                                                    
     that the person  should return the card  not later than                                                                    
     45 days after  the date of the notice  and that failure                                                                    
     to return the card by  the 45-day deadline could result                                                                    
     in  the person  not being  registered to  vote. If  the                                                                    
     person returns  the card,  the division  shall register                                                                    
     the person when the person  reaches 18 years of age and                                                                    
     forward to the person a registration card.                                                                                 
      *  Sec. 2.  AS 15.07.195  is amended  by adding  a new                                                                    
     subsection to read:                                                                                                        
      (e)   Notwithstanding   another  provision   of   this                                                                    
     section, the  address and telephone number  of a person                                                                    
     under 18 years of age  who registers or preregisters to                                                                    
     vote   are  confidential   and  not   open  to   public                                                                    
     inspection.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:31:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK noted that bill  sponsor, Representative Story, was                                                               
available to take questions pertaining to the CS for HB 21.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:31:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE  asked if a  new fiscal note  was available                                                               
for the CS.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. RELAY responded  that the fiscal note has  not been received,                                                               
and it would be sent to committee members when completed.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:31:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE asked at what  point before the election the                                                               
voter  card  would  be  sent  out and  whether  the  Division  of                                                               
Elections would confirm if they were still an eligible voter.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. RELAY directed the question to Ms. Beecher.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:32:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CAROL  BEECHER, Director,  Division of  Elections, Office  of the                                                               
Lieutenant  Governor,  remarked  that when  the  individual  pre-                                                               
registers  they use  the voter  registration form  which has  the                                                               
information necessary to  register for voting, but  in a separate                                                               
category  and  stored in  a  separate  designation on  the  voter                                                               
registration system.  The information  would be what was provided                                                               
on the  voter registration form.   She said 90 days  prior to the                                                               
voter's  eighteenth  birthday, the  card  would  be sent  out  to                                                               
confirm that their resident address is still the same.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE asked  if  pre-registered  voters would  be                                                               
verified in the same fashion as adults.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. BEECHER responded  yes; the division would  be confirming the                                                               
information much  like it does  with 17-year-olds when  they pre-                                                               
register.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:34:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE  asked how many 17-year-olds  are currently                                                               
pre-registered for voting.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. BEECHER  said she doesn't  have the  data but can  follow up.                                                               
She remarked that it is a fairly small number.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:34:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY  remarked that  one  of  the advantages  of                                                               
dropping the  age to 16 is  that hopefully more students  will be                                                               
interested in  the democratic process  and discuss it  with their                                                               
families.    She   remarked  that  in  the   first  bill  hearing                                                               
discussions, the three months prior to leaving for post-                                                                        
secondary  activities   doesn't  allow   much  time   to  discuss                                                               
registration processes with family.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:36:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE  remarked that requirements  and checkboxes                                                               
with  the  permanent  fund  dividend  (PFD)  form  has  generated                                                               
considerable  issues with  the  voter roll.    He remarked  about                                                               
going to  the Division of  Motor Vehicles (DMV) as  a 16-year-old                                                               
and  checking  a  box  to  pre-register  and  was  struggling  to                                                               
understand how to tie voter registration to something else.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:36:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY  said  that   the  bill  does  not  propose                                                               
automatically  registering  16-year-olds   when  they  get  their                                                               
driver's license, but it would be an opportunity if they chose.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:37:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK  removed her objection  to the motion to  adopt the                                                               
proposed  CS for  HB 21,  Version 34-LS0241\N,  Dunmire, 2/11/25.                                                               
There  being  no further  objection,  Version  N was  before  the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:37:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK  remarked that the  CS was adopted and  inquired if                                                               
there  was any  further discussion  on the  bill prior  to public                                                               
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:37:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HOLLAND asked  for clarification  on voter  rolls                                                               
and  if   16-year-olds,  much  like  17-year-olds   can  be  pre-                                                               
registered.   However, nobody  would go on  the roll  unless they                                                               
have received  the card,  returned the  card, and  confirmed that                                                               
they are  a real voter.   He asked  if his understanding  of this                                                               
was correct.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY remarked  that these  pre-registered voters                                                               
would be in  a pending status until they reach  the 90-day period                                                               
prior to the  eighteenth birthday, after which the  card would go                                                               
to the residence  that they pre-registered with.   She added that                                                               
Version  N was  important,  and  it should  be  spelled out  more                                                               
clearly to  ensure that  it was  clear how  the process  would be                                                               
done.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:39:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE asked  Representative Story  why she  feels                                                               
the bill is  necessary when an automatic  registration is already                                                               
in place  with the PFD application.   She said this  almost feels                                                               
unnecessary.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY responded  that this  is an  opportunity to                                                               
join 23  other states that have  put this into place.   She added                                                               
that  there is  modest research  that suggests  young voters  are                                                               
more likely  to vote  following pre-registration.   She  said the                                                               
whole idea is to build civic engagement and instill voter pride.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE asked for  documentation pertaining to other                                                               
states and if they have  automatic voter enrollment systems.  She                                                               
reiterated that  the PFD  automatically registers  applicants for                                                               
voting.    She   said  this  information  would   be  helpful  to                                                               
understand the bill.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY remarked  that one  of the  research papers                                                               
available  briefly touch  on this,  but supplemental  information                                                               
could be provided later.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:42:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MOORE  asked  Representative  Story  whether  the                                                               
proposed bill had  any language that would require  that the pre-                                                               
registration applicants are American Citizens.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY  responded  that an  attestation  would  be                                                               
required.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:43:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT  asked  Representative  Story,  if  the                                                               
governor's   bill   passed,   which  would   remove   PFD   voter                                                               
registration, whether it would impact this proposed bill.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY directed the question to Ms. Beecher.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BEECHER remarked  that the  current way  that PFD  automatic                                                               
registration works  is that  when an  individual applies  for the                                                               
PFD, who is least 18 and marked  that they are a US citizen, then                                                               
they are  sent a  notice providing them  with the  opportunity to                                                               
opt  out  or  change  address.    She  responded  that  it  would                                                               
eliminate  the  automatic   registration  for  eighteen-year-olds                                                               
applying for the first time.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT remarked  that if  the governor's  bill                                                               
passed, then  HB 21 would  be more important to  prepare upcoming                                                               
voters without PFD automatic registration at 18.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. BEECHER  responded that  this bill  would put  these 16-year-                                                               
olds in the pending status and  when they turn 18 then they would                                                               
be registered.   It would not be automatic but  would allow those                                                               
who applied to become registered using this system.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:47:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK opened public testimony on HB 21.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:47:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT WELTON, representing self, testified  in support of HB 21.                                                               
He remarked that when  he was a kid in the  seventies, he went to                                                               
a  mock  election  as  a  student and  found  it  empowering  and                                                               
exciting.  He  said it did help to instill  voter engagement.  He                                                               
said that Version N is an improvement to put some control in.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:48:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHARLIE FRANZ,  representing self, testified in  opposition to HB                                                               
21.  He  opined that there is already a  great deal of difficulty                                                               
managing  the  voter  roll  and  said  this  adds  an  additional                                                               
workload to the  Division of Elections, which is  not equipped to                                                               
handle it.  He said it adds a  layer of complexity.  He said that                                                               
if someone wants  to learn about the election  process, there are                                                               
plenty of  opportunities in  school.  He  remarked that  it isn't                                                               
appropriate to implement  the bill just because  other states did                                                               
so.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:50:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROHN ANDERSON,  Member, Alaska Youth  Vote, testified  in support                                                               
of HB  21.  He  said in the 2024  General Election, Alaska  had a                                                               
voter  turnout of  55.8 percent,  and  the state  has the  second                                                               
highest  age requirement  for voter  registration.   He  remarked                                                               
that  almost  every other  state  has  put some  pre-registration                                                               
standards  into law.    He  remarked that  this  system fails  to                                                               
provide necessary education  and makes someone an  observer not a                                                               
participant.  He  remarked that other states that do  this, do it                                                               
because it  works.  Other  states see increased  civic engagement                                                               
and voter turnout.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:52:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CARRICK  after ascertaining  there  was  no one  else  who                                                               
wished to testify, closed public testimony on HB 21.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:53:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK set an amendment  deadline and announced that HB 21                                                               
was held over.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:53:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 3:53 p.m. to 3:56 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
               HB  43-ELECTIONS, VOTING, BALLOTS                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
3:56:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK  announced that the  final order of  business would                                                               
be HOUSE BILL  NO. 43 "An Act relating to  elections; relating to                                                               
voters;  relating  to the  crime  of  unlawful interference  with                                                               
voting; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK opened public testimony on HB 43.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:56:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR WELTON stated that he supports  the proposed changes in HB 43.                                                               
He believes that they will increase  access to the ballot box and                                                               
when more people  vote, government representation is  better.  He                                                               
remarked on a couple pieces of  the bill that he agreed with such                                                               
as ballot  curing and  pre-registration.   He stated  that people                                                               
like it when they  can fit voting into a busy  schedule.  He also                                                               
said   that   removing   the   witness   signature   without   an                                                               
authentication process  was also  sensible.   He remarked  on the                                                               
postage paid envelope to make it easier for voters.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:59:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MIKE SHOWER,  Alaska  State  Legislature, testified  and                                                               
provided  comments on  HB  43.   He  remarked  that  he had  been                                                               
working on this bill concept for  the better part of eight years.                                                               
He remarked  that the  previous testimony  did not  highlight the                                                               
whole story.   He  remarked that  there are  other pieces  of the                                                               
bill that require attention but many  parts of the bill he agreed                                                               
with, such as ballot  curing.  He said that if  a bill is passed,                                                               
it  needs to  consider  the  other side  of  the  equation.   For                                                               
example, if  a 30-day registration  was implemented,  he remarked                                                               
that districts can get flooded  with people prior to an election.                                                               
He also  noted that  every time someone  applies for  a permanent                                                               
fund dividend  (PFD), they are  re-registered to vote.   In other                                                               
words, those  people are perpetually  on the voter roll  and it's                                                               
difficult to remove  them and clean up the roll.   He opined that                                                               
Alaska  has  the  worst  voter  roll in  the  nation  and  it  is                                                               
inflated.    He remarked  that  not  having a  witness  signature                                                               
sounds good, but  questioned how the state would  then verify it.                                                               
He  discussed  issues with  current  voting  dynamics.   He  said                                                               
ballot curing is great, but ballot  tracking would be needed.  He                                                               
mentioned other  states ballot curing  procedures and  how Alaska                                                               
needs to follow suit.  He  remarked that he wanted to ensure that                                                               
any bill  that can pass  the body would  get the approval  of the                                                               
governor.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:04:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RANDY RUEDRICH, representing self,  testified in opposition to HB                                                               
43.   He  remarked that  these processes  were key  to running  a                                                               
constitutional republic.   He first addressed the  issue of same-                                                               
day  registration and  said  that it  is  troubling that  someone                                                               
could be registered  the same day.  He said  that people could be                                                               
recruited  off the  street  for voting  purposes  and this  could                                                               
cause  a distortion  of ballot  counts.   He also  said that  the                                                               
witness signature  is extremely important and  was the validation                                                               
for the  absentee ballots.   He  expressed concern  that starting                                                               
the  thirty-day clock  for early  voting is  troubling.   He said                                                               
that a candidate  running for office needs to be  on schedule and                                                               
it could result  in additional expenses for candidates.   He also                                                               
opined that curing ballots isn't necessary.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:08:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PEGGY ROBINSON, representing self,  testified that since 2002 she                                                               
has been  an early  vote coordinator and  has worked  other roles                                                               
pertaining to  elections.  She said  that there are things  in HB                                                               
43 that  she likes but other  components that she does  not.  She                                                               
said that the 30-day registration  window is an issue because the                                                               
Division of Elections  has a difficult time  hiring enough people                                                               
to work, especially for early elections.   She said that a lot of                                                               
these  employees  are  older  and only  want  to  work  half-time                                                               
shifts.  She  could not imagine doing 30 days  of work as opposed                                                               
to the  current 15.   She said as chairs  they are not  paid more                                                               
than the  regular workers and  there are no  financial incentives                                                               
to work  more.  She  discussed vote-by-mail and  its relationship                                                               
with wait times at the ballot  boxes.  She said some people voted                                                               
early  because they  were afraid  that they  wouldn't be  able to                                                               
make it to the ballot box.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:12:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHARLIE FRANZ,  representing self, testified in  opposition to HB                                                               
43.  He  said HB 43 weakens rather than  strengthens the election                                                               
system.   He opined that  if voters  are careless and  don't sign                                                               
their ballot, it should  be thrown away.  If it  is a ballot with                                                               
a  fictitious witness  on it,  it should  be tossed  as well  and                                                               
anyone  who  accepted it  should  be  fired.   He  remarked  that                                                               
witness signatures  should be required  on all ballots.   He said                                                               
same-day registration  adds to the pre-existing  workload for the                                                               
Division  of Elections.   He  urged members  to vote  against the                                                               
bill and instead strengthen the election system.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:14:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LINDA MORNING, representing self, testified  in support of HB 43.                                                               
She said  HB 43 would help  Alaskans express their wishes  to the                                                               
government.  She said along with  the provisions in the bill, she                                                               
would like  to see a recurring  voter list created and  a liaison                                                               
to help rural Alaskan voices be heard.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:15:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN BANKS,  representing self, testified  in support of  HB 43.                                                               
He  said he  supports HB  43,  and providing  access by  removing                                                               
barriers is  important.  He said  the fear of election  fraud may                                                               
be overestimated and often restricts  access for eligible voters.                                                               
He said that  some people live in areas where  it is difficult to                                                               
get a witness,  and the signature requirement is  an odd barrier.                                                               
He  remarked on  the things  that would  be ideal  to accommodate                                                               
voters.     He  said   that  ballot   curing  is   a  substantial                                                               
improvement.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:17:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHELLE  SPARCK, Director,  Get Out  the Native  Vote, testified                                                               
that Get  Out the Native Vote  likes the idea of  eliminating the                                                               
witness signature.   She said that the group also  likes the idea                                                               
of a ballot curing process and  postage paid envelopes.  She said                                                               
that  while  extending  voting  to  30  days  early  could  cause                                                               
problems,  it  may  help  voters.    She  said  that  many  rural                                                               
residents are  always traveling, and the  increased accommodation                                                               
would be good.  She noted  that Region 4 has suffered from voting                                                               
issues  in the  last five  election cycles  and several  villages                                                               
have  been left  out.   She noted  that one  area in  1992 had  a                                                               
turnout rate  of 66.19 percent and  the turnout rate in  2024 was                                                               
30.37 percent.  She suggested that  the drop in voter turnout was                                                               
attributed to worsening voting systems.   She echoed the previous                                                               
testifier  and suggested  that a  rural voting  liaison would  be                                                               
important.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:21:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUE  SHERIF, Board  Member,  League of  Women  Voters of  Alaska,                                                               
testified  in support  of HB  43.   She said  that the  League of                                                               
Women  Voters believes  that  the bill  would  protect rights  of                                                               
Alaska  voters and  would  increase  participation for  qualified                                                               
voters.   She remarked that  the group supported the  entire bill                                                               
but  wanted to  put  the  spotlight on  a  few  provisions.   She                                                               
remarked  about  the  number  of rejected  ballots  in  2022  and                                                               
discussed the  pre-paid postage proposals regarding  ballots, and                                                               
she  said  some  communities  don't  have  access  to  purchasing                                                               
stamps.   She said that  witness signatures can cause  issues for                                                               
voters as well.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:25:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SAMANTHA MINTZ-GENTZ, representing self,  testified in support of                                                               
HB 43.   She said  she especially  liked the portion  specific to                                                               
special needs and  the ability to cure ballots.   She remarked on                                                               
the low rates of voter turnout  in Alaska and said that it's fine                                                               
if the voting counts are  late if legitimate ballots are counted.                                                               
She also  said she supports  same day registration and  voting at                                                               
all  open  polling  places.    She said  that  Alaska  should  be                                                               
increasing accessibility for voting and all those eligible.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:27:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHRISTOPHER  CONSTANT, Chair,  Anchorage  Assembly, testified  in                                                               
support of  HB 43.   He  said that the  assembly hasn't  taken an                                                               
official stance on the bill,  but the elections team has reviewed                                                               
it  and doesn't  see  anything that  would  adversely affect  the                                                               
elections in Anchorage.  He requested  a few amendments for HB 43                                                               
that  would  bring  more  accuracy to  voter  rolls.    Anchorage                                                               
requests changes  to Alaska  Statute Title  15 focusing  on voter                                                               
registration rolls.   He said  it currently takes eight  years to                                                               
remove a voter from the rolls if  they are inactive.  He said the                                                               
state sends  substantial money  to non-voters  who are  no longer                                                               
eligible for  voting.  He said  that tools can be  put into place                                                               
to better maintain  voter rolls.  He  listed additional amendment                                                               
suggestions  to HB  43  that  would help  Anchorage  voters.   He                                                               
remarked  that  the  assembly  felt  that  previous  comments  by                                                               
Senator Shower were  valid and registration processes  on the PFD                                                               
should  be  addressed.   He  supported  curing and  tracking  and                                                               
opined that the witness signature  without validation is simply a                                                               
bar to vote.   He mentioned that Anchorage has  a voter signature                                                               
review process unlike many other areas in Alaska.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:32:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CARRICK said  that written  comments  can be  sent in  and                                                               
added to  the record.   She also  remarked on paperwork  given to                                                               
committee members that pertain to each of the proposed bills.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:32:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DONNA ANDERSON, representing self,  testified in opposition to HB                                                               
43.   She said that  she is a former  educator and said  that all                                                               
the time  she hears that the  public isn't happy when  the bar is                                                               
lowered.  She  said that voting is the most  important civic duty                                                               
for  adults.   She remarked  that  sending stamps  to adults  and                                                               
removing the witness signature was lowering the bar and                                                                         
cautioned that doing so would open the door for impropriety.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:33:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CARRICK, after ascertaining there was no one else who                                                                     
wished to testify, closed public testimony on HB 21.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:34:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Amanda Ndemo, Staff, Representative  Calvin Schrage, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, on behalf of  Representative Schrage, prime sponsor,                                                               
read  the sectional  analysis [provided  in the  committee file],                                                               
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section  1      Removes  language  from   AS  15.05.010                                                                  
     requiring  a  qualified  voter to  register  before  an                                                                    
     election as stipulated in AS 15.07.                                                                                        
     Section  2     Amends  AS 15.07.060  by  adding  a  new                                                                  
     subsection  that   requires  applicants   who  register                                                                    
     within  30  days  before an  election  to  provide:  an                                                                    
     affidavit stating that  they have established residency                                                                    
     at least  30 days before  the desired election;  a copy                                                                    
     of government  issued identification that  displays the                                                                    
     applicant's  Alaska  residence address;  or  government                                                                    
     document   showing   applicant's    name   and   Alaska                                                                    
     residence.                                                                                                                 
     Section 3    Amends AS  15.07.070(c) by adding  that an                                                                  
     applicant   whose  registration   does  not   meet  the                                                                    
     requirements for  placement on the master  register for                                                                    
     the  next  election  may vote  an  absentee  in-person,                                                                    
     special needs, or questioned ballot in that election.                                                                      
     Section 4   Amends AS  15.07.070(d) to stipulate that a                                                                  
     qualified voter who registers within  30 days before or                                                                    
     on the  day of  an election may  vote only  an absentee                                                                    
     in-person, special  needs or questioned ballot  at that                                                                    
     election.  It removes  the language  making the  person                                                                    
     ineligible to  vote at that election  and restricts the                                                                    
     division   from  rejecting   the  absentee   in-person,                                                                    
     special  needs, or  questioned  ballot  of a  qualified                                                                    
     voter who registered  within 30 days of  election or on                                                                    
     the day of an election on  the grounds the voter is not                                                                    
     on an official registration list.                                                                                          
     Section  5     Amends  AS  15.07.070(h)  requiring  the                                                                  
     voter's  certificate used  for voting  an absentee  in-                                                                    
     person  or questioned  ballot  to include  instructions                                                                    
     that  a person  registering to  vote using  the voter's                                                                    
     certificate  and   wishing  to  declare   the  person's                                                                    
     affiliation should complete  the affiliation section on                                                                    
     the  certificate. This  subsection is  also amended  to                                                                    
     include special needs ballots in this requirement.                                                                         
     Section 6 - Amends AS  15.07.090(b) to stipulate that a                                                                  
     person who  has reregistered under this  subsection may                                                                    
     vote  only an  absentee  in-person,  special needs,  or                                                                    
     questioned ballot  until the  next election  occurs, at                                                                    
     least 30  days after re-registration. The  division may                                                                    
     not reject  the absentee  in-person, special  needs, or                                                                    
     questioned ballot of a  qualified voter who reregisters                                                                    
     within 30 days before  election day because the voter's                                                                    
     name is not on the official registration list.                                                                             
     Section 7    Amends  AS 15.07.090(c) to  stipulate that                                                                  
     if a  voter's request to transfer  registration is made                                                                    
     within 30  days before or  on election day,  that voter                                                                    
     may vote only in  absentee in-person, special needs, or                                                                    
     questioned  ballot. The  division  may  not reject  the                                                                    
     ballot of  a voter who satisfies  these requirements on                                                                    
     the   basis  that   they  are   not  on   the  official                                                                    
     registration  list  for  the  election.  A  voter  must                                                                    
     reside in the  new house district for at  least 30 days                                                                    
     to vote a ballot for that district.                                                                                        
     Section 8   Amends AS 15.07.090(d) to  stipulate that a                                                                  
     qualified  voter  who  registers   within  30  days  of                                                                    
     election and  for whom no  evidence of  registration in                                                                    
     the precinct  can be  found may  only vote  an absentee                                                                    
     in-person,  special  needs,  or questioned  ballot  and                                                                    
     that the  division may  not reject  said ballot  on the                                                                    
     grounds the  voter is not on  the official registration                                                                    
     list for the election.                                                                                                     
     Section 9   Amends  AS 15.07.130(e) to rename "absentee                                                                  
     voting stations" to "early voting stations."                                                                               
     Section 10 -  Amends AS 15.15.370 to  add a stipulation                                                                  
     requiring   that,  when   the  director   of  Elections                                                                    
     publishes  unofficial   election  results,   they  will                                                                    
     include the subsequent rankings  selected by the voters                                                                    
     who ranked that candidate as the voters' first choice.                                                                     
     Section 11   Amends AS  15.20.030 to include a postage-                                                                  
     paid  return  envelope  with  the  mail-in  ballot  and                                                                    
     materials. It  also adds space  for recording  the date                                                                    
     of  the voter's  signature  declaring the  person is  a                                                                    
     qualified   voter.    This   section    prohibits   the                                                                    
     identification of  a voter's  party affiliation  on the                                                                    
     ballot  envelope  and  also removes  reference  to  the                                                                    
     requirement of witness signatures.                                                                                         
     Section  12    Amends AS  15.20.045 to  rename absentee                                                                  
     voting   stations   as   early  voting   stations   and                                                                    
     stipulates  that the  director shall  provide locations                                                                    
     designated   as   early   voting  stations   with   the                                                                    
     appropriate  ballots  at  least   30  days  before  the                                                                    
     election, in  line with extending early  voting options                                                                    
     to 30 days before an election.                                                                                             
     Section  13     Amends  AS  15.20.050  with  conforming                                                                  
     language   in  line   with  renaming   absentee  voting                                                                    
     stations as early voting stations.                                                                                         
     Section 14    Amends AS 15.20.061  extending the period                                                                  
     that  a qualified  voter  may apply  in  person for  an                                                                    
     absentee ballot  from the 15th  day before  an election                                                                    
     up to and  including the date of the election  to on or                                                                    
     after the 30th day.                                                                                                        
     Section  15      Amends   AS  15.20.064(a)   permits  a                                                                  
     qualified voter  who meets the requirements  set out in                                                                    
     this section to  vote 30 days before an  election or on                                                                    
     election day.                                                                                                              
     Section 16    Amends AS 15.20.064 to  add a stipulation                                                                  
     permitting  a  voter  who  fails   to  meet  the  voter                                                                    
     verification requirements  of this  section to  vote an                                                                    
     absentee ballot.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:40:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLLAND asked about  the impact of extending early                                                               
voting from  15 to  30 days  and wanted  clarification on  how it                                                               
would  affect  other  deadlines   pertaining  to  both  political                                                               
candidates and the Division of Elections.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BEECHER responded  that  early voting  would  impact the  12                                                               
locations that  currently have  it, and  early voting  places are                                                               
where any ballot can  be cast.  She said that  one of the biggest                                                               
impacts would be  getting the ballots prepared.   She opined that                                                               
the  withdrawal dates  would be  impacted, and  ballots can't  be                                                               
completed until  knowing whether  a candidate has  withdrawn, and                                                               
it takes time to  get ballots sent out.  She  remarked that it is                                                               
a complex process, and the  proposed bill would impact processing                                                               
components  and withdrawal  dates for  candidates.   She said  it                                                               
would  be a  challenge for  the  division to  start early  voting                                                               
sooner.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:43:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT asked for  clarification for the 24-hour                                                               
period pertaining to Section 22 of the proposed bill.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BEECHER responded  that based  off  what the  bill says,  it                                                               
appears  that  the cure  process  would  be triggered  after  the                                                               
absentee review board  says that a ballot will be  rejected.  She                                                               
remarked that this is what would  trigger this process, and it is                                                               
contingent on the timeframe of reviewing the ballots.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT  asked  about  the  30-day  window  for                                                               
people to  register up to election  day.  She said  that it could                                                               
allow a  tight race to  stack people in  the district in  which a                                                               
person is voting.   She asked if it's possible  that people could                                                               
register to vote in areas they don't live.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:45:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CALVIN  SCHRAGE,  Alaska  State  Legislature,  as                                                               
prime sponsor discussed  and answered questions about HB  43.  He                                                               
remarked   that   concerns   regarding  district   stacking   are                                                               
overstated, and  it is unlikely this  could occur.  He  said that                                                               
if they are  truly moving or changing location  to that district,                                                               
HB 21 would allow them to  re-register in that 30-day period.  He                                                               
said it  would also solve the  problem of not being  able to vote                                                               
in a new district or old one following a moved household.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:47:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY raised concerns  about problems with Western                                                               
Alaska  voting  and if  the  bill  contained components  to  help                                                               
support these voters.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHRAGE responded  that HB  21 would  address the                                                               
question of the witness signature.   He said this was the biggest                                                               
issue  impacting voters  for this  region and  the proposed  bill                                                               
would  remove  this  requirement.   He  reaffirmed  that  witness                                                               
signatures are  not validated by  the Division of Elections.   He                                                               
said that the  bill is not removing  election integrity measures,                                                               
and an  affidavit would still  need to be  signed.  He  also said                                                               
that the bill does not address  the issue of paid postage, and it                                                               
is best addressed with mail carriers.   He remarked that this was                                                               
a challenging issue to address as a state.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:50:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT asked  how ballot  tracking works,  and                                                               
she remarked that she would prefer  ballots to be anonymous.  She                                                               
said  that  a previous  comment  was  that  if ballot  access  is                                                               
expanded then tracking would be needed.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS  BEECHER responded  that currently  the Division  of Elections                                                               
uses  the myAlaska  voter  portal.   She  said  when an  absentee                                                               
ballot is mailed it is noted in  the portal.  When it is received                                                               
back by  the division, it is  noted.  Lastly, when  the ballot is                                                               
completed,  it is  noted in  the portal.   She  said this  is the                                                               
extent  of  what  the  Division  of  Elections  does  for  ballot                                                               
tracking.    She said  the  idea  of instituting  something  more                                                               
robust was tried with the vendor  and it was difficult because of                                                               
the constraints  of Alaska's  bandwidth.   She said  Alaska isn't                                                               
robust  enough to  implement some  systems.   She  said the  bill                                                               
refers to  using post office  barcodes, but it is  not understood                                                               
if the Division can read the barcode due to mailing processes.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:53:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE  asked  about the  proposal  pertaining  to                                                               
having early  voting 30 days in  advance and how it  would affect                                                               
processes in the division, including other deadlines.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. BEECHER  responded that by  statute the withdrawal  date from                                                               
the General Election is September 1.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE asked about  primary elections and when they                                                               
commence.  She said the candidates  need to wait for the count in                                                               
the  primary and  only  after  the count  is  received will  they                                                               
consider  continued candidacy.    She  raised concerns  regarding                                                               
deadlines interfering with one another.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. BEECHER  responded that  she was not  sure about  the general                                                               
election and  discussed the  dates pertaining to  the bill.   She                                                               
said that  given current deadlines,  there would not  be overlap;                                                               
however, the windows proposed under HB  21 would be tight for the                                                               
division.   She said that there  is already a 45-day  mandate for                                                               
overseas ballots,  and it is  doable because of the  small amount                                                               
of these  ballots.   However, a 30-day  change would  make things                                                               
difficult.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE  remarked that  some districts  need ballots                                                               
printed in  other languages and  asked if these ballots  would be                                                               
impacted by proposed changes in the bill.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BEECHER  responded that  yes,  they  would be  impacted  but                                                               
ballots that  require other  languages are  sample ballots.   She                                                               
remarked  that many  ballots can't  be structured  to accommodate                                                               
other languages, and none are used for actual voting.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE   remarked  that  the  sample   ballot  and                                                               
standard ballot would then be the  same and she could have sought                                                               
clarification regarding the  printing process.  She  said she was                                                               
trying to understand the time gap with an extension to 30 days.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. BEECHER  responded that there  are hard deadlines  set within                                                               
the  Division of  Elections that  pertain to  translated material                                                               
for  ballots.   She said  that she  can provide  a calendar  that                                                               
marks working deadlines in a  follow-up.  She remarked that given                                                               
a 30-day window,  the challenge for the division would  be to get                                                               
these  things  done in  a  tight  window given  other  concurrent                                                               
election objectives.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:59:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VANCE  asked about the proposed  30-day voting and                                                               
if the division has reviewed  the fiscal impact that would result                                                               
from employing people longer and  the feasibility of getting more                                                               
employees to accommodate the extension.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. BEECHER  responded that the  division has looked at  this and                                                               
initially thought that the desire of  the drafter was 30 days for                                                               
all  types  of  voting.    She said  the  division  has  received                                                               
clarification  and the  fiscal note  would need  to be  adjusted.                                                               
She said that  poll workers and election workers are  paid $20 an                                                               
hour and they usually work 12 hours a day.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE  asked  what  type  of  incurred  cost  the                                                               
division would have  with regards to notifying the  public of the                                                               
change.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. BEECHER  responded that the  division has not looked  at this                                                               
component  yet   and  that  advertising  and   notifications  are                                                               
expensive.  She said the education component is a challenge.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SCHRAGE   added  that  after  talking   with  the                                                               
Division, the  intent is  not to  include the  absentee in-person                                                               
sites.  He  referred to the fiscal note and  the monetary details                                                               
pertaining to the additional 15 days.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VANCE  referred to  the  bill's  fiscal note  and                                                               
asked for  clarification regarding  the 15-day extension  and why                                                               
the  focus  is on  early  voting  locations  and not  all  voting                                                               
locations.   She  remarked that  her  district does  not have  an                                                               
early voting site.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENATIVE SCHRAGE  responded that other expanded  access will                                                               
be a  decision for the committee.   He said that  the decision to                                                               
expand early  voting stemmed from  the surge in demand  for these                                                               
areas during the last election cycle.   He said if other types of                                                               
ballots  are included  then the  division would  incur additional                                                               
expenses.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:06:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLLAND  asked if alternative extensions  had been                                                               
discussed,  for example,  a 5-day,  10-day,  or other  extensions                                                               
that may not be so impactful.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SCHRAGE  responded that the 15-day  time-period is                                                               
from discussions  with the  Division of  Elections.   He remarked                                                               
that  any extension  beyond  the proposed  15-days  would be  too                                                               
laborious.  He said he was  open to discussion and the reason for                                                               
implementing this change  was a response to wait  times and prior                                                               
election challenges.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:09:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARRICK, announced that HB 43 was held over.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:10:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
State Affairs  Standing Committee  meeting was adjourned  at 5:10                                                               
p.m.