ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                          May 1, 2023                                                                                           
                           1:02 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tom McKay, Chair                                                                                                 
Representative George Rauscher, Vice Chair                                                                                      
Representative Kevin McCabe                                                                                                     
Representative Dan Saddler                                                                                                      
Representative Stanley Wright                                                                                                   
Representative Jennie Armstrong                                                                                                 
Representative Donna Mears                                                                                                      
Representative Maxine Dibert                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josiah Patkotak                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Board of Game                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Stanley Hoffman - Bethell                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S):  ALASKA INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT EXPORT AUTHORITY                                                                
PROJECT UPDATES                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 20                                                                                                               
"An Act relating to participation in matters before the Board of                                                                
Fisheries and the Board of Game by the members of the respective                                                                
boards; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB  20                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: CONFLICT OF INTEREST: BD FISHERIES/GAME                                                                            
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) STUTES                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
01/19/23       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/9/23                                                                                
01/19/23       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/19/23       (H)       RES, JUD                                                                                               
04/17/23       (H)       JUD REFERRAL REMOVED                                                                                   
04/17/23       (H)       BILL REPRINTED                                                                                         
05/01/23       (H)       RES AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
STANLEY HOFFMAN, Appointee                                                                                                      
Board of Game                                                                                                                   
Bethel, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified as appointee to the Board of                                                                   
Game.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BRANDON BREFCZYNSKI                                                                                                             
Deputy Director                                                                                                                 
Alaska Industrial Development and Export Authority                                                                              
Department of Commerce, Community & Economic Development                                                                        
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION   STATEMENT:      Co-offered   the   Alaska   Industrial                                                             
Development Export Authority Project Updates presentation.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
GEOFF JOHNS, Chief Investment Officer                                                                                           
Project Finance and Asset Management                                                                                            
Alaska Industrial Development and Export Authority                                                                              
Department of Commerce, Community & Economic Development                                                                        
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION   STATEMENT:      Co-offered   the   Alaska   Industrial                                                             
Development Export Authority Project Updates presentation.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MARK R. DAVIS, Special Counsel                                                                                                  
Alaska Industrial Development and Export Authority                                                                              
Department of Commerce, Community & Economic Development                                                                        
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION   STATEMENT:      Co-offered   the   Alaska   Industrial                                                             
Development Export Authority Project Updates presentation.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
JEFF SAN JUAN, Program Manager                                                                                                  
Alaska Industrial Development and Export Authority                                                                              
Department of Commerce, Community & Economic Development                                                                        
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION   STATEMENT:      Co-offered   the   Alaska   Industrial                                                             
Development Export Authority Project Updates presentation.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LOUISE STUTES                                                                                                    
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  As prime sponsor, introduced HB 20.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DONNA PAGE, Staff                                                                                                               
Representative Louise Stutes                                                                                                    
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   On behalf of  Representative Louise Stutes,                                                             
prime sponsor, presented HB 20.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
NATE ROSE, Vice President                                                                                                       
Kodiak Seiners Association                                                                                                      
Kodiak, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Gave invited testimony in support of HB 20.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:02:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  TOM MCKAY  called the  House Resources  Standing Committee                                                             
meeting to  order at 1:02  p.m.  Representatives  Saddler, Mears,                                                               
Dibert,  McCabe, and  McKay were  present at  the call  to order.                                                               
Representatives Rauscher,  Wright, and  Armstrong arrived  as the                                                               
meeting was in progress.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):                                                                                                       
^Board of Game                                                                                                                  
                    CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):                                                                                
                         Board of Game                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:03:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY announced  that the first order of  business would be                                                               
the  confirmation  hearing on  the  governor's  appointee to  the                                                               
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:03:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STANLEY HOFFMAN,  Appointee, Board  of Game, began  his testimony                                                               
by explaining both  his history in Alaska and  his involvement in                                                               
game management.  He said that  he was initially appointed to the                                                               
Board of Game by Governor Sarah  Palin in 2008 and reappointed by                                                               
every governor of Alaska since,  and he shared his excitement for                                                               
this latest reappointment.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:05:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER asked Mr.  Hoffman what issues he foresees                                                               
the Board of Game overseeing in his prospective term.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:06:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOFFMAN listed the Mulchatna  Caribou herd and Western Arctic                                                               
Caribou herd's decline  as issues that he sees  coming before the                                                               
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:07:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAUSCHER asked  Mr.  Hoffman if  he supports  the                                                               
using of electric bicycles for disabled veteran hunts.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:07:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOFFMAN responded that he  would "generally support" disabled                                                               
veterans in Alaska  and said that it would have  to meet a series                                                               
of requirements and thresholds for the  Board of Game to allow an                                                               
electric bicycle hunt.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:08:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY  opened public testimony on  the confirmation hearing                                                               
of  the  governor's  appointee  to  the Board  of  Game.    After                                                               
ascertaining  that there  was no  one who  wished to  testify, he                                                               
closed public testimony.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:09:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY  stated that the  House Resources  Standing Committee                                                               
has reviewed  the qualifications of the  governor's appointee and                                                               
recommends  that  the following  name  be  forwarded to  a  joint                                                               
session for consideration:   Stanley Hoffman, Board of  Game.  He                                                               
said  that signing  the report  regarding appointments  to boards                                                               
and  commissions  in  no  way  reflects  an  individual  member's                                                               
approval or disapproval  of the appointee, and  the nomination is                                                               
merely  forwarded to  the full  legislature  for confirmation  or                                                               
rejection.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S):      Alaska   Industrial   Development   Export                                                               
Authority Project Updates                                                                                                       
 PRESENTATION(S):  Alaska Industrial Development Export Authority                                                           
                        Project Updates                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:09:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY  announced that the  next order of business  would be                                                               
the Alaska  Industrial Development and Export  Authority  Project                                                               
Updates presentation.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:11:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRANDON   BREFCZYNSKI,   Deputy   Director,   Alaska   Industrial                                                               
Development   and  Export   Authority   (AIDEA),  Department   of                                                               
Commerce,  Community  &  Economic Development  (DCCED),  began  a                                                               
PowerPoint  presentation  [hardcopy  included  in  the  committee                                                               
packet], on slide  2, which gave a background  to AIDEA's history                                                               
and mission as an organization.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:13:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GEOFF JOHNS, Chief Investment Officer,  Project Finance and Asset                                                               
Management, Alaska  Industrial Development and  Export Authority,                                                               
Department of Commerce, Community  & Economic Development, as co-                                                               
presenter  of  the  PowerPoint,  moved to  slide  3,  which  gave                                                               
further  context  to  what  AIDEA   does  and  explained  how  it                                                               
functions as a public/private partnership entity.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:15:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER  asked how  much money AIDEA  has created                                                               
in economic development in Alaska.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JOHNS  answered  that  the  $3.5  billion  statistic  is  in                                                               
reference  to   the  total  amount   of  money  that   AIDEA  has                                                               
contributed to Alaska's economy since its inception.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:17:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER asked how much  of the $3.5 billion figure                                                               
could be attributed to the Red Dog Mine.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:17:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARK  R. DAVIS,  Special Counsel,  Alaska Industrial  Development                                                               
and  Export  Authority,  Department   of  Commerce,  Community  &                                                               
Economic  Development, answered  that  a substantial  sum of  the                                                               
money collected by AIDEA has gone toward the Red Dog Mine.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:18:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JOHNS moved  to slide  4, which  described AIDEA's  "finance                                                               
toolbox" of different methods and  sources of revenue and funding                                                               
to be used for  projects.  He continued to slides  5 and 6, which                                                               
outlined  and explained  AIDEA's loan  participation program  and                                                               
its output  statistics.   He moved to  slide 7,  which underlined                                                               
the AIDEA  Conduit Revenue  Bond Program  and its  use throughout                                                               
different projects in Alaska.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:23:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. DAVIS  gave the  committee context as  to the  application of                                                               
and use  of AIDEA's Conduit  Revenue Bond Program.   He continued                                                               
to slide 8, which gave an  example of how AIDEA's Conduit Revenue                                                               
Bond  was awarded  and  applied to  a  Tanana Chief's  Conference                                                               
(TCC) healthcare project,                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:26:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JOHNS  moved to  Slide  9,  which outlined  AIDEA's  project                                                               
financing  program that  has been  used as  a method  of bringing                                                               
projects in Alaska to fruition.   He briefly touched on slide 10,                                                               
which highlighted the  use of the project  financing program with                                                               
the creation of the FedEx hangar in Anchorage, Alaska.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:28:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. DAVIS continued to slide  11, which outlined the methods that                                                               
AIDEA  might  take  with  developing  its  public  infrastructure                                                               
projects.   He  moved to  slide 12,  which highlighted  an AIDEA-                                                               
owned road  that is  essential to  the operation  of the  Red Dog                                                               
Mine in Kotzebue, Alaska.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:31:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BREFCZYNSKI  noted to the committee  that certain information                                                               
that was  omitted from the  presentation has since  been provided                                                               
to the committee for further context.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:32:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. DAVIS moved  to slide 14, which emphasized  the importance of                                                               
mining in  Alaska's economy by  giving statistics  and highlights                                                               
of  resources and  revenue from  AIDEA-funded mining  projects in                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:33:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER asked whether  Alaska's ability to obtain                                                               
bonds to  fund resource development  projects has changed  in the                                                               
recent years.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. DAVIS  answered by explaining  how AIDEA obtains  and applies                                                               
bonds to its projects.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:34:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BREFCZYNSKI  resumed the  presentation  on  slide 15,  which                                                               
displayed  a map  of Alaska  numbered with  its total  road miles                                                               
superimposed  over the  contiguous  United  States with  specific                                                               
states numbered with their total road  miles as a comparison.  He                                                               
moved  to slide  16,  which gave  a broad  overview  of the  West                                                               
Susitna Access  Road project  along with a  map of  the project's                                                               
area and proposed route.  He  continued to slide 17, which gave a                                                               
list  of  possible  benefits  of the  West  Susitna  Access  Road                                                               
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:39:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEFF  SAN JUAN,  Program Manager,  Alaska Industrial  Development                                                               
and  Export  Authority,  Department   of  Commerce,  Community  &                                                               
Economic  Development,  resumed  the presentation  on  slide  18,                                                               
which gave a broad overview of  the Ambler Access project, and he                                                               
read from  slide 19, which displayed  a map of the  Ambler Access                                                               
project's  general  area  and its  surrounding  land  claims  and                                                               
classifications  as of  2018.   He continued  to slide  20, which                                                               
displayed a  map of land  claims and  classifications surrounding                                                               
the Ambler Access Road in 2021 and 2022.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:46:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SAN  JUAN moved to an  unnumbered slide [not included  in the                                                               
committee packet]  that described AIDEA's Arctic  mining projects                                                               
and  its  advancement  in comparison  to  other  mining  projects                                                               
throughout Alaska.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:47:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MEARS asked  how the  State of  Alaska determines                                                               
that a project  proposed by AIDEA is a good  investment and asked                                                               
how the  state would receive  a return  on its investment  in any                                                               
such project.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. SAN JUAN answered that  the state determines the viability of                                                               
an  investment  through a  feasibility  study  and explained  how                                                               
those feasibility studies are conducted.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:50:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  shared his  understanding related  to the                                                               
volume of gold,  silver, zinc, and copper that  is extracted from                                                               
mines in Alaska.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. SAN JUAN confirmed  Representative Saddler's understanding as                                                               
correct.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:51:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BREFCZYNSKI  added that  AIDEA  would  follow up  with  more                                                               
specific statistics after the meeting.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER  asked  for   definitions  of  the  terms                                                               
"indicated" and "inferred" in the context of a mining project.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:51:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SAN JUAN  advised  that  the term  "indicated"  refers to  a                                                               
confirmed  knowledge   of  minerals  in  a   certain  area  while                                                               
"inferred" refers to an assumption  of minerals in a certain area                                                               
based off of studies and surveys.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:52:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JOHNS concluded  the presentation on slide 22,  which gave an                                                               
overview  of  the oil  leases  in  the Arctic  National  Wildlife                                                               
Refuge  (ANWR), along  with their  feasibility of  production and                                                               
their legality.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:55:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCKAY asked  whether AIDEA  could provide  any information                                                               
about a specific Chevron oil well.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:55:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BREFCZYNSKI  answered that the  Chevron lease  information is                                                               
classified.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
         HB 20-CONFLICT OF INTEREST: BD FISHERIES/GAME                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:56:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY announced  that the final order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO.  20, "An Act relating to  participation in matters                                                               
before  the Board  of  Fisheries and  the Board  of  Game by  the                                                               
members of the respective boards;  and providing for an effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:57:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LOUISE STUTES, Alaska  State Legislature, as prime                                                               
sponsor,  presented  HB  20.   She  read  the  sponsor  statement                                                               
[included  in  the  committee  packet],  which  read  as  follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     House Bill 20  will improve the Board  of Fisheries and                                                                    
     the  Board  of  Game  process by  allowing  members  to                                                                    
     participate  in  deliberations  on subjects  for  which                                                                    
     they  have a  declared personal  or financial  interest                                                                    
     according  to AS  39.52,  the  Executive Branch  Ethics                                                                    
     Act.                                                                                                                       
     Board  of  Fisheries  and Board  of  Game  members  are                                                                    
     currently required  to divulge  a conflict  of interest                                                                    
     if  they,  or  their   immediate  family  members,  are                                                                    
     involved in  the subject being deliberated  on. At this                                                                    
     time, the  conflicted member cannot offer  input on the                                                                    
     process and  cannot vote  on the  matter at  hand. This                                                                    
     bill allows the conflicted  member to offer remarks and                                                                    
     input,  but still  precludes them  from  voting on  the                                                                    
     issue at  hand or  on whether they  have a  conflict of                                                                    
     interest.                                                                                                                  
     Allowing  members with  expertise in  particular fields                                                                    
     to deliberate  will help the boards  make more informed                                                                    
     decisions, will result  in stronger resource management                                                                    
     statewide,  and   will  align  the  process   with  the                                                                    
     original  intent of  allowing  boards  to benefit  from                                                                    
     members' knowledge and diversity of viewpoints.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Thank you for your support of this legislation.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:59:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DONNA  PAGE, Staff,  Representative Louise  Stutes, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  on behalf  of Representative  Louise Stutes,  prime                                                               
sponsor, presented the  sectional analysis of HB  20 [included in                                                               
the   committee  packet],   which  read   as  follows   [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1 amends  AS 39.52.220(b), to allow  a Board of                                                                    
     Game  or Board  of Fisheries  members to  take official                                                                    
     action,  defined  by  section  three of  the  bill,  as                                                                    
     deliberating  but not  voting,  on a  matter that  they                                                                    
     have a personal or financial interest in.                                                                                  
     Section  2 amends  AS 39.52.220(a)  to exempt  Board of                                                                    
     Fisheries and Board of Game  members from the provision                                                                    
     in the  Executive Branch Ethics Act  that prevents them                                                                    
     from deliberating  on matters  they have a  personal or                                                                    
     financial interest in.                                                                                                     
     Section 3 amends  AS 39.52.220 by adding  a new section                                                                    
     that  allows  Board  of Fisheries  and  Board  of  Game                                                                    
     members  with a  personal  or financial  interest in  a                                                                    
     matter to  deliberate, but not  vote, on  that proposal                                                                    
     or subject being considered by the board.                                                                                  
     Section 4 establishes an immediate effective date.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:03:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER asked whether  members of the Alaska Board                                                               
of  Fisheries   are  currently  violating  Alaska   Statute  (AS)                                                               
39.52.220.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:04:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STUTES  answered that there are  discussions being                                                               
had by  the Board of Fisheries  that should be had  on the public                                                               
record.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:06:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCKAY asked  how frequently  meetings behind  closed doors                                                               
and off-the-record are occurring.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STUTES  explained the process that  a board member                                                               
must follow once they declare a conflict of interest.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:07:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCABE asked  whether the  Board of  Fisheries is                                                               
covered under the Open Meetings Act.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STUTES confirmed it is.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:07:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. PAGE noted that the percentage  of recusals in meetings is up                                                               
to 24 percent since 2005.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:08:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NATE  ROSE,  Vice  President, Kodiak  Seiners  Association,  gave                                                               
invited testimony  in support of  HB 20.   He said that  the high                                                               
number of recusals  during meetings on the Board  of Fisheries is                                                               
discouraging to those who look  to the meetings for policy change                                                               
or new direction.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:12:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY  asked how  a conflict of  interest is  determined to                                                               
exist and asked about the legality of HB 20.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:13:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STUTES responded  that  she had  not spoken  with                                                               
Legislative Legal Services regarding HB 20.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:13:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   RAUSCHER   asked   why  conflict   of   interest                                                               
regulations don't currently exist.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STUTES gave a history  of the issue of conflict of                                                               
interest on the Board of Fish and explained the need for HB 20.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:14:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  commented that  state boards  have varied                                                               
membership to allow for exemptions on the board if need be.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:16:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STUTES noted  that the Board of  Fisheries and the                                                               
Board  of  Game  are  the  only two  boards  that  fall  under  a                                                               
particular statute.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:17:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCKAY announced that HB 20 was be held over.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:19:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Resources Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 2:19 p.m.