ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
          HOUSE LABOR AND COMMERCE STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                         
                         March 18, 2013                                                                                         
                           3:21 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kurt Olson, Chair                                                                                                
Representative Lora Reinbold, Vice Chair                                                                                        
Representative Mike Chenault                                                                                                    
Representative Bob Herron                                                                                                       
Representative Charisse Millett                                                                                                 
Representative Dan Saddler                                                                                                      
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
Representative Tammie Wilson                                                                                                    
Representative Mike Hawker                                                                                                      
Representative Doug Isaacson                                                                                                    
Representative Steve Thompson                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 76                                                                                                               
"An  Act relating  to electronic  filing  of certain  information                                                               
with the Department of Labor  and Workforce Development; relating                                                               
to  surcharges,  rate  increase  reduction,  prohibition  on  the                                                               
relief of  certain charges, the unemployment  trust fund account,                                                               
and the  offset of certain  unemployment compensation  debt under                                                               
the Alaska  Employment Security Act;  relating to  the definition                                                               
of  'covered  unemployment  compensation   debt'  in  the  Alaska                                                               
Employment Security Act; and providing for an effective date."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSHB 76(L&C) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE FOR SENATE BILL NO. 23(FIN)                                                                                
"An Act relating  to development project financing  by the Alaska                                                               
Industrial  Development and  Export  Authority;  relating to  the                                                               
dividends  from  the  Alaska Industrial  Development  and  Export                                                               
Authority;  authorizing  the  Alaska Industrial  Development  and                                                               
Export  Authority to  provide  financing and  issue  bonds for  a                                                               
liquefied natural gas production system and natural gas                                                                         
distribution system; and providing for an effective date."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HCS CSSB 23(L&C) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 112                                                                                                              
"An Act repealing the film production tax credit; providing for                                                                 
an effective date by repealing the effective dates of secs. 31 -                                                                
33, ch. 51, SLA 2012; and providing for an effective date."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 76                                                                                                                   
SHORT TITLE: UNEMPLOYMENT; ELEC. FILING OF LABOR INFO                                                                           
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
01/18/13       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/18/13       (H)       L&C, FIN                                                                                               
03/04/13       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
03/04/13       (H)       AIDEA:    LNG     PROJECT;    DIVIDENDS;                                                               
                         FINANCING                                                                                              
03/05/13       (H)       L&C AT 8:00 AM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/05/13       (H)       -- Meeting Continued from 3/4/13 --                                                                    
03/13/13       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/13/13       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/13/13       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/15/13       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/15/13       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/15/13       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/18/13       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 23                                                                                                                   
SHORT TITLE: AIDEA: LNG PROJECT; DIVIDENDS; FINANCING                                                                           
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
01/16/13       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/16/13       (S)       L&C, FIN                                                                                               
01/31/13       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
01/31/13       (S)       Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled                                                                       
02/05/13       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
02/05/13       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/05/13       (S)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
02/19/13       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
02/19/13       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/19/13       (S)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
02/21/13       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
02/21/13       (S)       Moved CSSB  23(L&C) Out of Committee                                                                   
02/21/13       (S)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
02/25/13       (S)       L&C RPT CS  4NR 1AM   SAME TITLE                                                                       
02/25/13       (S)       NR: DUNLEAVY, OLSON, STEDMAN, ELLIS                                                                    
02/25/13       (S)       AM: MICCICHE                                                                                           
02/28/13       (S)       FIN AT 9:00 AM SENATE FINANCE 532                                                                      
02/28/13       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/28/13       (S)       MINUTE(FIN)                                                                                            
03/06/13       (S)       FIN RPT CS 3DP 3AM   NEW TITLE                                                                         
03/06/13       (S)       DP: KELLY, BISHOP, HOFFMAN                                                                             
03/06/13       (S)       AM: DUNLEAVY, FAIRCLOUGH, OLSON                                                                        
03/06/13       (S)       FIN AT 9:00 AM SENATE FINANCE 532                                                                      
03/06/13       (S)       Moved CSSB  23(FIN) Out of Committee                                                                   
03/06/13       (S)       MINUTE(FIN)                                                                                            
03/13/13       (S)       TRANSMITTED TO (H)                                                                                     
03/13/13       (S)       VERSION: CSSB 23(FIN)                                                                                  
03/14/13       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/14/13       (H)       L&C, FIN                                                                                               
03/18/13       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 112                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: REPEAL FILM PRODUCTION TAX CREDIT                                                                                  
SPONSOR(s): STOLTZE                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
02/11/13       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/11/13       (H)       L&C, FIN                                                                                               
03/13/13       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/13/13       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/13/13       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/15/13       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/15/13       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/15/13       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/18/13       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BRYNN KEITH, Acting Deputy Commissioner                                                                                         
Office of the Commissioner                                                                                                      
Department of Labor & Workforce Development (DLWD)                                                                              
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified and answered questions on SB 23.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
PAUL DICK, Director                                                                                                             
Central Office                                                                                                                  
Division of Employment Security (DES)                                                                                           
Department of Labor & Workforce Development (DLWD)                                                                              
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified and answered questions on SB 23.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
KONRAD JACKSON, Staff                                                                                                           
Representative Kurt Olson                                                                                                       
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   On behalf  of  Representative Kurt  Olson,                                                             
Chair,  House Labor  and Commerce  Standing Committee,  explained                                                               
the changes  contained in the  proposed committee  substitute for                                                               
HB 76, Version N.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
TED LEONARD, Executive Director                                                                                                 
Alaska Industrial Development & Export Authority (AIDEA)                                                                        
Department of Commerce, Community & Economic Development (DCCED)                                                                
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified and answered questions on SB 23.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SARA FISHER-GOAD, Executive Director                                                                                            
Alaska Energy Authority (AEA)                                                                                                   
Department of Commerce, Community & Economic Development (DCCED)                                                                
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified and answered questions during the                                                              
discussion of SB 23.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DAVE HUNSAKER, Screenwriter                                                                                                     
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the discussion of HB 112.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
PATRICIA HULL, Actor                                                                                                            
Alaska Film Group                                                                                                               
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the discussion of HB 112.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
RICHARD BENAVIDES, President                                                                                                    
The International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees - Local                                                                
918 (IATSE Local 918)                                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to HB 112.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IRENE BEDARD, President                                                                                                         
Sleeping Lady Films - Waking Giant Productions                                                                                  
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the discussion of HB 112.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
FRANCES CHEEVER, President & CEO                                                                                                
Squeaky Reel Productions;                                                                                                       
Major, U.S. Army Nurse Corps, Retired                                                                                           
West Hollywood, California                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the discussion of HB 112.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
KELLY BENDER, Owner                                                                                                             
Lazy Otter Charters                                                                                                             
Whittier, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the discussion of HB 112.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
GARY ZIMMERMAN, General Manager                                                                                                 
Alaska Rent a Car, Inc.                                                                                                         
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to HB 112.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:21:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KURT  OLSON called  the House  Labor and  Commerce Standing                                                             
Committee  meeting  to  order  at   3:21  p.m.    Representatives                                                               
Chenault,  Millett,  Herron,  Josephson, Reinbold,  Saddler,  and                                                               
Olson were present at the call to order.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
         HB 76-UNEMPLOYMENT; ELEC. FILING OF LABOR INFO                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:22:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON announced  that the first order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL NO.  76  "An  Act relating  to  electronic filing  of                                                               
certain information  with the Department  of Labor  and Workforce                                                               
Development;  relating to  surcharges,  rate increase  reduction,                                                               
prohibition on  the relief of  certain charges,  the unemployment                                                               
trust  fund  account,  and the  offset  of  certain  unemployment                                                               
compensation  debt  under  the Alaska  Employment  Security  Act;                                                               
relating to the definition  of 'covered unemployment compensation                                                               
debt' in  the Alaska Employment  Security Act; and  providing for                                                               
an effective date."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:22:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON made  a  motion to  adopt Amendment  1,                                                               
labeled 28-GH 1494\A.1, Wayne, 3/11/13, which read:                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 2:                                                                                                            
          Delete "rate increase reduction,"                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, lines 11 - 29:                                                                                                     
          Delete all material.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, line 5:                                                                                                            
          Delete "Section 10"                                                                                                   
          Insert "Section 9"                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, line 6:                                                                                                            
          Delete "sec. 11"                                                                                                      
          Insert "sec. 10"                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:23:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON  explained  Amendment  1  would  delete                                                               
Section 5, which is the only  controversial section of HB 76.  He                                                               
stated that  the state's Unemployment  Insurance (UI)  Trust Fund                                                               
has  never been  insolvent.    He asked  Ms.  Huff  to re-read  a                                                               
definition of  the weighted  average, which  includes the  use of                                                               
the word  solvency.   Thus this  UI Trust  Fund is  clearly about                                                               
solvency.   He  said Section  5 is  irrelevant, in  terms of  who                                                               
pulls  the trigger,  since it  could  be anyone.   However,  this                                                               
provision  would add  unnecessary  risk to  this  program and  it                                                               
shifts the  timing of the UI  taxes, but not the  total amount of                                                               
taxes.    He  expressed  concern  that the  result  may  be  that                                                               
businesses are paying lower taxes  in good times and higher taxes                                                               
as they  struggle to come  out of a  recession.  This  bill would                                                               
also  require a  new consultation  with actuaries.   He  reminded                                                               
members  that  recently  the  state  had  difficulties  with  its                                                               
actuaries  for the  Public  Employees'  Retirement System  (PERS)                                                               
unfunded  liability.   He  acknowledged  that the  aforementioned                                                               
isn't  a  universal problem  and  concluded  that the  system  is                                                               
working.  Additionally,  he said he has never  recalled anyone in                                                               
his  district  raising  this  issue.   Lastly,  he  informed  the                                                               
committee that  the state, in terms  of the nation, ranks  34 out                                                               
of 50.   The  state pays $370  per week maximum,  and there  is a                                                               
correlation  between what  the state  pays in  benefits and  this                                                               
formula.  Given  Alaska's high cost of living, he  said one issue                                                               
is  whether the  state is  adequately paying  UI benefits  if the                                                               
state is only paying $1,200 to $1,300 in UI benefits.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:25:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON maintained his objection.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
A roll  call vote was  taken.  Representative Josephson  voted in                                                               
favor  of  Amendment  1.     Representatives  Millett,  Reinbold,                                                               
Saddler,   Chenault,  Herron,   and  Olson   voted  against   it.                                                               
Therefore, Amendment 1 failed by a vote of 1-6.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:26:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HERRON [did not offer] amendments in members'                                                                    
packets Amendment 2 [labeled 28-GH1494\A.2, Wayne, 3/11/13], and                                                                
Amendment 3 [labeled 28-GH1494\A.3, Wayne, 3/14/13].                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:26:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HERRON moved to adopt Amendment 4, labeled 28-                                                                   
GH1494\A.4, Wayne, 3/15/13, which read:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 20, following "may":                                                                                          
          Delete "suspend, in whole or in part, any                                                                             
     unemployment rate of contribution increases"                                                                               
          Insert ", in increments of 16.5 percent, suspend                                                                      
          up to 66 percent of an unemployment rate of                                                                           
     contribution increase"                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 23:                                                                                                           
          Delete "suspended, in whole or in part"                                                                               
          Insert    "partially    suspended    under    this                                                                    
     subsection"                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 26:                                                                                                           
          Delete "suspended, in whole or in part"                                                                               
          Insert "partially suspended"                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, following line 27:                                                                                                 
     Insert a new subsection to read:                                                                                           
          "(b)  The commissioner may not suspend more than                                                                      
     one 16.5 percent increment of an unemployment rate of                                                                      
      contribution increase under (a) of this section in a                                                                      
     six-month period."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Reletter the following subsection accordingly.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:27:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HERRON explained Amendment 4.   He related that he                                                               
circulated  Amendment   2  [A.2]   and  Amendment  3   [A.3]  and                                                               
discovered  that  both  sides  of the  issue  didn't  like  those                                                               
amendments.    Therefore,  Amendment   4,  which  allows  UI  tax                                                               
contributions  to be  suspended in  parts  up to  66 percent  and                                                               
limits  the  commissioner's  ability  such that  he/she  may  not                                                               
suspend it  for more  than one 16.5  percent increment  without a                                                               
six-month period, was developed.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON maintained his objection.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:27:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON  asked  him to  summarize  Amendment  4                                                               
again.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HERRON  explained that  he [did not  move forward]                                                               
with  the earlier  two amendments  since he  circulated them  and                                                               
found committee members did not  support the potential amendments                                                               
so he  worked to improve the  change.  Under Amendment  4, the UI                                                               
insurance  rates  could incrementally  be  suspended  up to  16.5                                                               
percent and allow  a six-month trial prior  to suspending another                                                               
16.5 percent UI tax contribution.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:28:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON maintained his objection.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was begun.  Representative Herron voted yea.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT requested an at-ease.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 3:28 p.m. to 3:30 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON asked for further clarification of Amendment 4.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HERRON  related that in considering  the testimony                                                               
the  focus   has  been  on  Section   5  of  the  bill   and  the                                                               
administration and others  are opposed to [Section 5.]   Thus, he                                                               
said he tried to allow  the department to adjust the unemployment                                                               
rate of contribution  up or down on increments every  6 months up                                                               
to a  maximum of 66 percent,  which is the language  in Amendment                                                               
4.                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:32:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRYNN   KEITH,  Acting   Deputy  Commissioner,   Office  of   the                                                               
Commissioner,  Department   of  Labor  &   Workforce  Development                                                               
(DLWD), introduced herself.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
PAUL  DICK,  Director,  Central Office,  Division  of  Employment                                                               
Security  (DES),  Department  of Labor  &  Workforce  Development                                                               
(DLWD), introduced himself.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:32:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON inquired as to the  impact of proposed Amendment 4 on                                                               
the bill.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:32:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEITH  explained that the  bill, as written, would  allow the                                                               
commissioner  of the  DLWD limited  discretion, under  controlled                                                               
circumstances to  suspend in  part or in  whole tax  increases on                                                               
unemployment insurance.   The department, she  related, holds the                                                               
opinion   that   further    restricting   that   flexibility   is                                                               
unnecessary.   Furthermore, adjusting tax  rates twice a  year as                                                               
opposed  to  the  annual  adjustment  would  potentially  add  an                                                               
additional burden  to employers.   Additionally,  the semi-annual                                                               
adjustment would  add additional administrative  costs associated                                                               
with it within the DLWD.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:33:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT  surmised  then that  Amendment  4  would                                                               
require the  department to review  the UI rates every  six months                                                               
and by discretion the DLWD could  adjust the [UI] rates, which is                                                               
"a look back."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEITH answered yes; that is how she interprets Amendment 4.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT   related  her  understanding   that  the                                                               
current "look  back" is for  one year and  if the bill  passed it                                                               
would remain a one-year "look back."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEITH answered yes.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON maintained his objection.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:34:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A  roll  call  vote  was   taken.    Representatives  Herron  and                                                               
Josephson  voted  in  favor  of  Amendment  4.    Representatives                                                               
Millett,  Reinbold, Saddler,  Chenault, and  Olson voted  against                                                               
it.  Therefore, Amendment 4 failed by a vote of 2-5.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 3:34 p.m. to 3:36 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  related that a  conceptual amendment  was previously                                                               
distributed  to members,  but since  then  had been  incorporated                                                               
into the proposed committee substitute.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:36:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD  moved to adopt the  committee substitute                                                               
(CS)  for  HB 76,  labeled  28-GH1494\N,  Wayne, 3/18/13  as  the                                                               
working document.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:36:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KONRAD  JACKSON,   Staff,  Representative  Olson,   Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, stated  that Version N makes  some minor corrections                                                               
to the  bill.  He  pointed out  that the most  significant change                                                               
embodied in Version N is the repeal  of Section 5 on page 6, line                                                               
4.  The intent of the change  is to give the department some time                                                               
to consider  unemployment insurance  rate adjustments.   If there                                                               
is  [a major  economic crisis]  or if  a "terrible"  commissioner                                                               
makes decisions, the language would disappear in five years.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:38:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JACKSON  explained that  a new page  3 is in  Version N.   He                                                               
offered  that  when the  Department  of  Law  drafts a  bill  the                                                               
legislative team of lawyers also  review and format the language.                                                               
He pointed out that on page  2, line 13, the citation that refers                                                               
to the UI  Trust Fund account, AS 23.20.135(a), which  was in the                                                               
incorrectly referred to AS 23.20.130(b)(2).   [The correction was                                                               
made  to  a  proposed  committee   substitute  (CS)  for  HB  76,                                                               
previously circulated to members but  not discussed or adopted by                                                               
the  committee.]    He  suggested  that  the  committee  consider                                                               
adoption   of  Conceptual   Amendment  2,   which  corrects   the                                                               
aforementioned typo  on page 5,  line 14, and  page 6, line  1 of                                                               
Version N.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:39:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  REINBOLD  moved  Conceptual Amendment  2,  [which                                                               
corrects the  UI Trust  Fund account citation].   There  being no                                                               
objection, Conceptual Amendment 2 was adopted.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER   asked  for  clarification   on  whether                                                               
Conceptual Amendment 2 would amend Version N.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON answered yes.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 3:40 p.m. to 3:42 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:42:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON stated that the proposed  CS for HB 76, Version N, as                                                               
amended, is before the committee.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:42:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CHENAULT asked whether  Conceptual Amendment 1 had                                                               
been approved.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JACKSON   explained  that   a  draft   amendment,  entitled,                                                               
"Conceptual Amendment 1"  was circulated to members,  but was not                                                               
presented  or  adopted by  the  committee.   Instead,  the  draft                                                               
language was incorporated into  the proposed committee substitute                                                               
(CS) for HB  76, Version N.  The committee  formally adopted [the                                                               
proposed  CS  for  HB  76, Version  N],  and  adopted  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 2,  which corrects the  reference to the UI  Trust Fund                                                               
account in the proposed CS for HB 76, Version N.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON remarked  that the  committee has  been experiencing                                                               
some of  the effects of  a 90-day legislative session  as opposed                                                               
to a 120-day legislative session.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:44:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD  moved to  report the  proposed committee                                                               
substitute (CS)  for HB 76, labeled  28-GH1494\N, Wayne, 3/18/13,                                                               
as amended, out of committee  with individual recommendations and                                                               
the accompanying fiscal notes.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON objected.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:44:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll  call vote was  taken.  Representatives  Chenault, Herron,                                                               
Millett,  Reinbold,   Saddler,  and  Olson  voted   in  favor  of                                                               
reporting  the  proposed committee  substitute  (CS)  for HB  76,                                                               
labeled 28-GH1494\N,  Wayne, 3/18/13, as amended,  from the House                                                               
Labor and Commerce Standing  Committee.  Representative Josephson                                                               
voted against it.   Therefore, the CSHB 76(L&C)  was reported out                                                               
of the House  Labor and Commerce Standing Committee by  a vote of                                                               
6-1.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:44:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 3:44 p.m. to 3:48 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
         SB 23-AIDEA: LNG PROJECT; DIVIDENDS; FINANCING                                                                     
                [Contains discussion of HB 74.]                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:48:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  announced that the  next order of business  would be                                                               
the  CS  FOR  SENATE  BILL   NO.  23(FIN)  "An  Act  relating  to                                                               
development   project   financing   by  the   Alaska   Industrial                                                               
Development and Export Authority;  relating to the dividends from                                                               
the   Alaska  Industrial   Development   and  Export   Authority;                                                               
authorizing   the  Alaska   Industrial  Development   and  Export                                                               
Authority to  provide financing and  issue bonds for  a liquefied                                                               
natural  gas  production  system  and  natural  gas  distribution                                                               
system; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  noted that  SB 23  is the companion  bill to  HB 74,                                                               
which has  been hears several  times in this committee  with much                                                               
public testimony.  Therefore, public  testimony for SB 23 will be                                                               
brief as it's virtually the same bill as HB 74.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:49:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON explained  that SB 23 contains the  financing for the                                                               
Fairbanks  liquefied  natural gas  (LNG)  project  and the  AIDEA                                                               
[direct  financing provisions  remain] in  HB 74.   He  explained                                                               
that  it is  easier  to  manage these  projects  in two  separate                                                               
bills.  He noted that he is awaiting the final draft of HB 74.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:50:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  REINBOLD moved  to adopt  the proposed  committee                                                               
substitute, the  HCS CS for  SB 23, labeled  28-GS1738\O, Bailey,                                                               
3/15/13, as the working document.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:50:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TED LEONARD, Executive Director,  Alaska Industrial Development &                                                               
Export  Authority  (AIDEA)  and Alaska  Energy  Authority  (AEA),                                                               
Department  of   Commerce,  Community,  &   Economic  Development                                                               
(DCCED), introduced himself.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SARA  FISHER-GOAD, Executive  Director,  Alaska Energy  Authority                                                               
(AEA), Department  of Commerce, Community &  Economic Development                                                               
(DCCED), introduced herself.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:51:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LEONARD explained  that Version  O would  remove the  direct                                                               
financing  language leaving  in  the bill  the  language for  the                                                               
dividend  calculation for  AIDEA  and the  liquefied natural  gas                                                               
(LNG) project.   The  fiscal note  has been  revised to  show the                                                               
reduction  from the  committee substitute,  the direct  language,                                                               
leaving the fiscal note that relates  to the dividend and the LNG                                                               
project.   He further  explained that there  isn't any  change to                                                               
the  dividend   language  [from   the  revolving  fund   and  the                                                               
Sustainable  Energy Transmission  and  Supply Development  (SETS)                                                               
fund] or  the LNG language that  was in HB 74,  which remains the                                                               
same in SB 23.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON remarked the fastest  way to expedite the LNG project                                                               
is to use a bill that has passed the other body.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:52:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  REINBOLD expressed  compassion  about the  energy                                                               
issues in  Fairbanks; however, said  she has questions  since she                                                               
is  interested  in the  long-term  fiscal  health of  the  state.                                                               
Referring to  charts she distributed  to members  entitled, "DHHS                                                               
Public  Assistance  Non-Formula  Comparisons by  Allocation"  and                                                               
"Division  of Public  Assistance Benefits  by Census  Areas," she                                                               
pointed  out  that  for  FY  13  the  state  Division  of  Public                                                               
Assistance   (DPA)   spent   $3,389,944  in   Fairbanks.      She                                                               
acknowledged   that  the   state   needs   a  comprehensive   and                                                               
sustainable  energy   plan,  but  questioned  when   -  with  the                                                               
implementation   of  the   LNG  trucking   to  Fairbanks   -  the                                                               
legislature  could expect  to see  these state  subsidies decline                                                               
since Fairbanks  receives substantial subsidies through  the [Low                                                               
Income Home Energy Assistance Program] LIHEAP.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:55:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD  then asked whether the  project sponsors                                                               
can  secure long-term  gas contracts  with  industrial users  and                                                               
utilities  to  ensure that  this  investment  is recouped.    She                                                               
offered that  her goal is  to ensure that the  Sustainable Energy                                                               
Transmission and Supply Development fund  (SETS) loan will not be                                                               
jeopardized by not securing long-term gas contracts.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEONARD answered yes; that part  of the process AIDEA will go                                                               
through  in completing  its feasibility  study and  prior to  the                                                               
SETS  loan  will  be  to  secure  long-term  contracts  with  the                                                               
utilities  that  would  use  the  gas  from  this  project.    He                                                               
reiterated that  part of the  loan process will  necessitate that                                                               
the contracts are in place.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:55:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD asked for  clarification on the length of                                                               
the long-term contract,  specifically whether it would  be 5, 10,                                                               
or 20 years in length.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LEONARD  recalled  that  Fairbanks   Natural  Gas  (FNG)  is                                                               
considering  a  15-year  contract,   but  until  the  process  is                                                               
completed the  contract terms  of the SETS  and LNG  contracts is                                                               
not definite.   He assured her that AIDEA will  have customers to                                                               
guarantee the project.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:57:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  REINBOLD recalled  AIDEA testimony  relating that                                                               
if  the gasline  is  constructed  the LNG  can  be repurposed  to                                                               
supply  industrial  users and  serve  rural  Alaska.   She  asked                                                               
whether  any feasibility  study has  been  done to  assure it  is                                                               
viable to do so.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEONARD  answered that AIDEA is  in the process of  doing so.                                                               
He offered that AIDEA has  hired Northern Economics to begin this                                                               
work;  however, this  will  be  part of  the  process AIDEA  will                                                               
undergo  prior to  submitting  the project  to  AIDEA's Board  of                                                               
Directors for  project approval.   In any  case, looking  at that                                                               
long-term demand  is very  important in terms  of timing  for the                                                               
pipeline.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  FISHER-GOAD  suggested that  Mr.  Leonard  has covered  this                                                               
quite  well.   The  expectation  is that  after  the pipeline  is                                                               
built, additional industrial customers  would continue to be able                                                               
to  utilize  this  [LNG],  in  particular,  some  of  the  mining                                                               
districts will need electrical generation  as well as liquid fuel                                                               
for  trucks.   Additionally, AEA  has been  working on  the rural                                                               
energy programs to ensure that  the project and components can be                                                               
used to  produce liquid fuel  for areas  on the river  system and                                                               
rural  road system.   In  essence, AIDEA  anticipates this  [LNG]                                                               
project would be used in areas not served by a pipeline.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:59:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD, summarizing  her concerns, expressed her                                                               
desire  for assurance  that  if this  project  moves forward  the                                                               
state  can anticipate  a decrease  in  the LIHEAP.   Second,  she                                                               
expressed the need to be sure  the long-term contracts will be in                                                               
place  so the  state can  recoup a  good investment  on the  SETS                                                               
loan.    Third,  she  expressed   interest  in  ensuring  that  a                                                               
feasibility  study  will  be  conducted so  the  project  can  be                                                               
repurposed.   In brief, Representative Reinbold  related that her                                                               
goal is to have a long-term  energy plan for the entire state and                                                               
to ensure the state maintains its good bond rating.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. FISHER-GOAD  answered that the  AEA has been  working closely                                                               
with  all the  regions of  the state  to develop  regional energy                                                               
plans to address  energy needs in the state.   She cautioned that                                                               
what will  work in  the Railbelt  area or  even in  the Fairbanks                                                               
area isn't  necessarily what  will work  in Southeast  Alaska. In                                                               
fact,  AEA  reviews these  issues  regionally.   Ms.  Fisher-Goad                                                               
clarified that the  LIHEAP program, a statewide  program based on                                                               
income not necessarily  the cost of energy in an  area, is not an                                                               
AEA program.   She  suggested that the  LIHEAP should  perhaps be                                                               
addressed through the HSS.   Although the Power Cost Equalization                                                               
Program (PCE) is an AEA program,  it does not serve the Fairbanks                                                               
area since the GVEA is not eligible utility.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:01:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD clarified  that her point is  that if the                                                               
legislature is going to provide  relief in Fairbanks, it seems to                                                               
follow that energy costs will be lowered.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. FISHER-GOAD answered that is correct.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  REINBOLD  said  she  also  assumed  the  [LNG  or                                                               
propane]  would provide  more  affordable  energy for  residents.                                                               
She explained  she could provide substantial  detail about public                                                               
assistance, including adjustments made [in the HSS committee].                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON remarked  this  is  not the  forum  to discuss  [the                                                               
health and social services aspects].                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:01:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CHENAULT asked whether  Version O has any negative                                                               
effects on  AIDEA moving forward  on the  Fairbanks [LNG/propane]                                                               
trucking project.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEONARD replied no.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:02:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   CHENAULT  characterized   this  project   as  an                                                               
opportunity to  assist residents in  Fairbanks.  He noted  he has                                                               
questions  that  AIDEA  can't   currently  answer,  such  as  the                                                               
location  and  the  costs  of  the  LNG  plant,  which  won't  be                                                               
available  until  the feasibility  study  is  completed at  which                                                               
point the  project could move  forward if it is  deemed feasible.                                                               
He said he  is fairly comfortable with AIDEA  moving forward with                                                               
this  bill  since it  would  allow  AIDEA  to examine  costs  and                                                               
perhaps move  forward with a  project that will  assist Fairbanks                                                               
as soon as possible.  He  offered his belief that this project is                                                               
not in  competition with  other energy projects,  such as  an in-                                                               
state gasline or  a big natural gas pipeline.   He reiterated his                                                               
support for the  LNG trucking project to assist  the community of                                                               
Fairbanks, and  in turn  create opportunities  in other  areas in                                                               
the  state that  do not  currently  have lower-cost  energy.   He                                                               
noted his agreement with Representative  Reinbold that the public                                                               
assistance funding  is high and  although it isn't  under AIDEA's                                                               
purview, some  of the assistance  provided to individuals  is for                                                               
energy assistance.   If that funding were  available for [energy]                                                               
projects, it might be possible  to have a long-term energy supply                                                               
for most  areas of the state,  he said.  He  acknowledged that it                                                               
is a tough  battle to offer the cheapest energy  to everyone in a                                                               
state the  size of Alaska.   However, without projects  like this                                                               
no opportunities  will exist and  residents will continue  to pay                                                               
high prices for  fuel.  Therefore, he offered  his willingness to                                                               
move forward with SB 23 to help the Interior residents.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:05:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HERRON  referred to  Section 4  and the  change on                                                               
page 3, line 12.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LEONARD explained  that this  language sets  up the  capital                                                               
reserve for the state's moral obligation.   The change on line 12                                                               
would replace "chairman" with "chair"  and "no" with "not," which                                                               
are technical changes; however, the  whole section relates to the                                                               
moral  obligation of  the  state and  allows AIDEA  to  set up  a                                                               
capital reserve to  provide the state's backing  for this credit.                                                               
He  explained  that this  language  is  estimated to  change  the                                                               
investment grade  to a  high investment grade  and the  amount of                                                               
basis points from 175 to 200  basis points will lower the cost of                                                               
the bond.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON asked whether AIDEA would have an AAA rating.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEONARD  answered it could be  one or two ratings  below.  He                                                               
clarified  that  the state  has  an  AAA  rating, and  the  moral                                                               
obligation  requires  considering  the bond,  but  this  language                                                               
would  give it  a boost  it would  not otherwise  have if  it was                                                               
based on  revenue bonds  for a  utility.   Thus the  language [in                                                               
Section 4]  would bring  it up  to an  AA or  AA plus  rating, he                                                               
said.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:07:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HERRON said  he supports this bill in  order to do                                                               
something  to  address  energy   costs  as  the  legislature  has                                                               
discussed gas projects and reductions  in energy costs for a long                                                               
time.   In broader terms, the  state is huge and  there have been                                                               
various [energy]  subsidies including the  Four Dam Pool  and the                                                               
Cook Inlet  gas project.   Passage of SB 23  will also be  a huge                                                               
subsidy  and, perhaps,  in the  future other  parts of  the state                                                               
will  also receive  subsidies.   In short,  Representative Herron                                                               
said it  does make sense  to do something  and he hoped  the bill                                                               
will work  out and if  not, the  [legislature] will just  need to                                                               
try something else.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:08:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT, referring  to  the fiscal  note and  the                                                               
language Interior  Energy Plan, asked whether  AIDEA will prepare                                                               
an energy  plan specifically for Fairbanks  with the liquefaction                                                               
project in mind.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. FISHER-GOAD responded that the  Interior Energy Plan has been                                                               
the  term used  for  the  financing package  in  the proposed  FY                                                               
capital  budget  and  the authorizations  provided  to  AIDEA  in                                                               
SB 23.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT  said  the  House  Special  Committee  on                                                               
Energy is often criticized for not  having an energy plan for the                                                               
entire state.   However, no  one solution fits the  entire state,                                                               
which has  been the fundamental  barrier to creating  a statewide                                                               
plan.  Therefore, she opined that  it is good for the Interior to                                                               
move forward with  this project, even if it may  not be palatable                                                               
for  Anchorage or  Southeast  Alaska residents.    The state  has                                                               
historically funded  large-scale energy programs in  the state as                                                               
there has  been no private  sector provider.  Further,  the state                                                               
has subsidized electric utilities  and Interior Alaska has waited                                                               
for a solution.   She viewed this  as a start and  once energy is                                                               
provided to  Fairbanks it  will open  up more  job opportunities,                                                               
which  would  offer  the  opportunity   for  people  to  get  off                                                               
[LIHEAP].  She  offered to support this to make  sure this energy                                                               
rich state is not anemic  in providing sustainable energy for its                                                               
citizens.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. FISHER-GOAD, in response  to Representative Josephson, stated                                                               
that she  first reviewed  [Version O] this  weekend.   In further                                                               
response,  Ms.  Fisher-Goad  explained that  when  the  committee                                                               
removed  the  direct financing  program  a  number of  conforming                                                               
amendments were necessary.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:12:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON referred  to page 2 of  the fiscal note,                                                               
which specifies that  the Interior Energy Plan  will receive $125                                                               
million from  the SETS direct  financing.  He asked  whether that                                                               
was  removed  since  the  funding  for this  project  is  in  the                                                               
operating budget.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. FISHER-GOAD answered  that what changed was  the AIDEA fiscal                                                               
note shows $750,000 in services  request.  She offered her belief                                                               
the other  fiscal note stands since  it does not need  to change.                                                               
She reiterated that the direct  financing program does not impact                                                               
the Interior  Energy Plan,  so removing that  from the  bill does                                                               
not impact the  $125 million.  Again, that fiscal  note stands as                                                               
is and  is informational.   In further response,  Ms. Fisher-Goad                                                               
agreed that the AIDEA adjustment that will remain in HB 74.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:14:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON  asked whether the changes  in Version O                                                               
would change rating from AAA to something less.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. FISHER-GOAD explained that typically  when a moral obligation                                                               
is  placed on  a bond,  the rating  would be  one or  two notches                                                               
below  the  entity  providing  the  moral  obligation  since  the                                                               
obligation  is  not a  general  obligation,  but is  a  different                                                               
circumstance.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON  asked whether AIDEA and  AEA is content                                                               
with [Version O].                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. FISHER-GOAD answered yes; [Version  O] will fulfill the needs                                                               
of the  Interior Energy  Plan as testified.   She  explained that                                                               
the  impacts of  the direct  financing program  and the  benefits                                                               
will be discussed by Mr. Leonard.   She said the AEA would not be                                                               
involved in a bill [regarding  the direct financing program].  In                                                               
further response, Ms. Fisher Goad  agreed [Version O] is a stand-                                                               
alone bill.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:16:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER  referred  to  page 3,  lines  18-19,  of                                                               
Version O, and asked the size of the capital reserve fund.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEONARD explained  that the capital reserve fund  will be set                                                               
up for this specific bond.   Thus there isn't any money until the                                                               
bond  is  issued.   Typically,  a  capital reserve  fund  usually                                                               
equates to  one year  of debt  service so it  will depend  on the                                                               
size of  the bond issued.   He suggested this bond  may be issued                                                               
in  a   series  in  conjunction   with  the  build  out   of  the                                                               
distribution system  and a portion  of the $150 million  would be                                                               
for  the first  series.   He  also explained  that this  language                                                               
states that  AIDEA will  set up  a capital  reserve fund  for the                                                               
debt service  for this bond.   In the event  insufficient revenue                                                               
is not available  to repay the bond, AIDEA's Chair  would ask the                                                               
legislature  to  appropriate  money   to  replenish  the  capital                                                               
reserve.   He assured members  that AIDEA would ensure  that this                                                               
would not  happen, but again,  that is  the purpose of  a reserve                                                               
account.   He explained that the  aforementioned language creates                                                               
a moral obligation and although  the legislature does not have to                                                               
appropriate the  money, the  state would not  want to  impinge on                                                               
its moral  obligation so  it would  likely replenish  the reserve                                                               
account.   He  pointed out  that AIDEA  is currently  considering                                                               
ways  to have  a second  layer  of credit  to back  up the  moral                                                               
obligation.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:18:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER inquired  as to whether as  each series of                                                               
bonds is  issued the  size of the  capital reserve  account would                                                               
also increase.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LEONARD answered  yes; it  would increase  up to  the annual                                                               
debt service.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER inquired as to  the original source of the                                                               
capital reserve account.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEONARD answered  that it would be bond proceeds  itself.  In                                                               
further response,  he explained  the remainder  would be  used to                                                               
make the last bond payment.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:19:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON,  after first  determining  no  one else  wished  to                                                               
testify, closed public testimony on SB 23.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON  removed his  objection.    There being  no  further                                                               
objection, Version was before the committee.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:20:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CHENAULT  remarked that SB  23 will give  AIDEA an                                                               
opportunity  to truck  LNG to  Fairbanks and  other opportunities                                                               
that it might bring to other communities in the state.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON  remarked that if these  types of prices                                                               
Fairbanks  is experiencing  occurred in  Southcentral Alaska  the                                                               
prices would  not be tolerated.   He  stated that the  prices for                                                               
fuel oil  are so  high because the  price of oil  is at  $120 per                                                               
barrel.  Combined with the  non-attainment issues for air quality                                                               
and that  compared to other  large projects, such  as a dam  or a                                                               
pipeline,  this project  is  quite  inexpensive.   Representative                                                               
Josephson offered his belief that SB  23 is a good investment and                                                               
the  people of  the FNSB  are  worthy of  this.   He offered  his                                                               
support for the bill.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HERRON  related he  has listened to  the testimony                                                               
given  by  Interior  residents  and  found  the  comments  to  be                                                               
sincere, in  fact, many residents  are scared and need  help, and                                                               
the  legislature is  ready  to give  them help.    He hoped  when                                                               
people  in  other  communities  in   the  state  need  help  that                                                               
Fairbanksans will remember 2013.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CHENAULT said  that  energy prices  are not  only                                                               
high in  Fairbanks or in  rural Alaska.   In fact, the  price per                                                               
gallon for diesel  fuel on the Kenai Peninsula is  higher than it                                                               
is  in Fairbanks.   He  said the  anticipated effect  of the  LNG                                                               
project ranges  from $13-15, but  this year  short-term contracts                                                               
were let  in the Cook  Inlet for $15 Mcf  gas.  While  Cook Inlet                                                               
residents receive a break on natural  gas, over 50 percent of the                                                               
Cook Inlet residents are not on  a gas distribution grid and heat                                                               
with  propane, diesel,  coal, and  wood, he  said.   Fortunately,                                                               
there is  more wind in Cook  Inlet than in Fairbanks,  he pointed                                                               
out.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:23:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CHENAULT  moved  to  report  the  proposed  House                                                               
committee  substitute,  (HCS)  for SB  23,  labeled  28-GS1738\O,                                                               
Bailey,    3/15/13,   out    of    committee   with    individual                                                               
recommendations and  the accompanying fiscal notes.   There being                                                               
no objection, HCS CSSB 23(L&C)  was reported from the House Labor                                                               
and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 4:24 p.m. to 4:31 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
            HB 112-REPEAL FILM PRODUCTION TAX CREDIT                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:31:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON announced that the final order of business would be                                                                 
HOUSE  BILL NO.  112 "An  Act repealing  the film  production tax                                                               
credit;  providing  for  an  effective   date  by  repealing  the                                                               
effective  dates  of  secs.  31  - 33,  ch.  51,  SLA  2012;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:31:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVE HUNSAKER, Screenwriter, informed  the committee he has lived                                                               
in Alaska for  approximately 40 years and has worked  as a screen                                                               
writer  for  25  years,  working between  Juneau  and  Hollywood.                                                               
Prior to  that, he  worked as  the Artistic  Director of  the Naa                                                               
Kahidi Theater and  Perseverance Theatre.  He  offered his belief                                                               
that the film industry is  just getting started and has generated                                                               
a  lot  of  interest  in  Hollywood.    He  has  a  project,  The                                                             
Firecracker  Boys,  which  is  based   on  Fairbanks  writer  Dan                                                             
O'Neill's book  about Project  Chariot.   This project  is funded                                                               
and ready to  go.  He said Leonardo DiCaprio  is the producer and                                                               
the director is Bronwen Hughes.   He reported that the production                                                               
is in the process of casting  and while the budget doesn't permit                                                               
the entire production to be  in Alaska, some location shoots were                                                               
done in Alaska  and location scouts have been hired.   He related                                                               
the intention  is to  shoot 30  percent of  the film  here, which                                                               
would  not  be  the  case  without  the  Alaska  Film  Production                                                               
Incentive Program  credits.  What has  prevented more productions                                                               
from  being filmed  in Alaska  is the  lack of  trained technical                                                               
crew, which is changing as more  productions are filmed here.  He                                                               
said that  while a lot of  money has been paid  to people outside                                                               
Alaska  thus far,  the more  projects  that are  filmed here  the                                                               
bigger the  base.  He offered  his belief that as  more films are                                                               
filmed in Alaska,  the filmmakers will discover  the grandeur and                                                               
superior lighting in Alaska.   Further, some things simply cannot                                                               
be found  in other places.   For example, there are  not any good                                                               
Arctic  locations in  Canada that  have  the infrastructure  film                                                               
crews  need, noting,  Canada is  Alaska's huge  competitor.   Mr.                                                               
Hunsaker  related that  Canada has  been aggressive.   He  stated                                                               
that  people  from  the  British Columbia  Film  office  and  the                                                               
Alberta office, which is where  Alaska has been depicted, came to                                                               
Alaska with  respect to filming  Firecracker Boys.   He predicted                                                             
that  once people  see the  real Alaska  it will  make them  more                                                               
prone to want  to come to Alaska and anything  shot here would be                                                               
good advertising for Alaska.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:34:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PATRICIA  HULL, Actor,  Alaska Film  Group, stated  she moved  to                                                               
Alaska in  1967 and  has spent 31  cumulative winters  in Alaska.                                                               
She said  that she  is representing the  Alaska Film  Group (AFG)                                                               
today.   She  works as  a  performing artist  in music,  theatre,                                                               
film, and television.  The  AFG is a nonprofit trade organization                                                               
for individuals and businesses that  are involved in the film and                                                               
video industry in Alaska.   The Alaska Film Group also encourages                                                               
workforce development  so Alaskans  can be  hired into  the well-                                                               
paying crew jobs.   Additionally, the AFG has been  active in the                                                               
development of  infrastructure to  support film production.   She                                                               
offered her  belief that Alaska  is a really compelling  place to                                                               
make films  since it has  dramatic locations and  abundant summer                                                               
daylight.   However, other places with  beautiful locations, such                                                               
as New  Mexico, Canada, and  New Zealand, aggressively  court the                                                               
film industry.   She recalled that New Mexico  even offers loans.                                                               
She turned to Canada, which in  many ways is Alaska's twin.  When                                                               
the Canadian dollar  was strong it was really easy  to keep films                                                               
in  Alaska, but  now  that Alaska  is 98  cents  to the  Canadian                                                               
dollar, Alaska is  in a precarious balance point.   She explained                                                               
that  eliminating the  Alaska Film  Production Incentive  Program                                                               
(AFPIP)  at  this point  would  have  the  effect of  losing  the                                                               
competitive advantage.  Films that  would normally come to Alaska                                                               
will instead go to Canada.   In fact, she recalled hearing that a                                                               
film about  the serum run  in Nome will be  shot in Canada.   She                                                               
highlighted that  a chilling  effect has taken  place due  to the                                                               
risk of the  incentive program being dismantled.   Last year, the                                                               
10-year commitment  was made it  made people think big  and long-                                                               
term and really  start to put their irons in  the fire, which has                                                               
changed with HB 112.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:36:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HULL  pointed  out  that   a  number  of  enhancements  were                                                               
scheduled  to go  into effect  for the  AFPIP, including  cabinet                                                               
level  review of  projects to  ensure the  best interests  of the                                                               
state and its  residents are reflected in the films.   Further, a                                                               
sliding  scale  application fee  from  $220  to $5,000  would  be                                                               
implemented, based on  the film budget's ground  spend, she said.                                                               
Additionally, the  incentive to  hire Alaskan residents  would be                                                               
increased  from 10-20  percent,  which means  the film  companies                                                               
will receive more  tax credits if they hire  more Alaskans, which                                                               
also would  reduce non-resident funding.   In fact,  Alaskans are                                                               
trying to tweak the program to  really make it work.  In essence,                                                               
creative industries like film are the  wave of the future.  There                                                               
isn't  any  red  tape,  or  any  of  the  difficulties  of  other                                                               
industries,  plus film  companies leave  things better  than they                                                               
find them.  In fact, one  major production company needed a sound                                                               
stage and  subsequently created  a $6  million investment  in the                                                               
sound stage.    These types  of investments are not  reflected in                                                               
the  incentive  plan,  but  this  sound studio  is  now  part  of                                                               
Alaska's  infrastructure.   She  encouraged  members  to let  the                                                               
wisdom of the 27th Alaska State Legislature move forward.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:38:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RICHARD  BENAVIDES,  President,  The  International  Alliance  of                                                               
Theatrical Stage Employees - Local  918 (IATSE Local 918), stated                                                               
he is  testifying in  opposition to  HB 112.   He said  the IATSE                                                               
Local 918  is the organization  that represents both  stage, film                                                               
and  television technicians.   However,  IATSE also  supports any                                                               
union or non-union  person who works on films and  is part of the                                                               
film community.  The AFPIP has  positively impacted IATSE.   Over                                                               
the course of  the program, over half of the  IATSE Local 918 has                                                               
worked making good wages on  several film or television projects,                                                               
such  as Everybody  Loves Whales,  Frozen  Ground, employing  160                                                           
members and  90 members, respectively.   Additionally,  the IATSE                                                               
Local  918  has  been  involved with  the  University  of  Alaska                                                               
Fairbanks  (UAF) in  training over  250 individuals  in Fairbanks                                                               
and Anchorage.   He said some activities conducted  at studios to                                                               
train grip  for films,  which were  streamed statewide  so people                                                               
who  could not  attend in  person could  follow along  via video,                                                               
which is still  available for people to  download.  Additionally,                                                               
the IATSE Local  918 will offer courses this summer.   In fact, a                                                               
student film  will be made with  UAF film students -  assisted by                                                               
Alaskans already trained in film  - to use technicians across the                                                               
state so students learn how to  make a film from beginning to end                                                               
and  learn all  aspects  of filmmaking,  including technical  and                                                               
acting.   Referring  to the  Alaska Film  Office's Report  to the                                                               
legislature,  Mr.  Benavides  highlighted  the  following  bullet                                                               
points:  "cooperate with organizations  in the private sector for                                                               
the expansion and  development of industry in  the state; promote                                                               
Alaska  as   a  location   for  production;   provide  production                                                               
assistance   by  connecting   folks   with  Alaska   contractors,                                                               
suppliers,  and workers;  and  certify  internship programs,  and                                                               
promote  the  employment of  interns  by  eligible people."    He                                                               
suggested a  person could  insert "oil" or  any industry  in this                                                               
state into  the language  of the  bullet points.   These  are the                                                               
things Alaskans always  discuss.  In fact, the  mantra ever since                                                               
he worked as staff for the  legislature has been to diversify the                                                               
economy.   He  asked members  why one  would destroy  a fledgling                                                               
industry which  has shown positive  growth and fills the  need to                                                               
help diversify  Alaska's economy.   He asked members  to consider                                                               
what has occurred, including that  the industry has been growing,                                                               
and thus far has been very  positive.  He urged members to please                                                               
vote against this bill.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:42:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
IRENE  BEDARD,  President, Sleeping  Lady  Films  - Waking  Giant                                                               
Productions, stated  that she is  Alaska Native and was  born and                                                               
raised in Alaska.   She said she  has made her career  in over 45                                                               
productions in the  film and television industry.   She also said                                                               
she is so  happy to say that she has  worked on the international                                                               
stage, but  her home,  Alaska, has  always held  her heart.   She                                                               
said, "Alaska  is where  I'm from."   Last year  she incorporated                                                               
Sleeping  Lady Films  - Waking  Giant  Productions in  Anchorage.                                                               
The  company is  an  Alaska Native  majority-owned company,  with                                                               
minority  partner, Thom  Denomme  from Canada  who has  expressed                                                               
great  interest  in  the  beauty and  rich  culture  of  Alaska's                                                               
people.    However,  for an  entrepreneur  and  an  international                                                               
producer, it  was the  film tax incentives  that made  starting a                                                               
company in Alaska  a sound business decision.  It  has been their                                                               
mission  and  vision  to  show  Alaska  in  all  its  beauty  and                                                               
grandeur, to show  the strength and integrity of  Alaskans and to                                                               
tell their stories which are  uniquely Alaska.  She reported that                                                               
the slated  projects could provide  continuous work  for Alaskans                                                               
and  create  a  unique  opportunity  to  train  and  develop  the                                                               
workforce  and infrastructure  needed.   She emphasized  the key,                                                               
which has  happened in Vancouver,  British Columbia, as  well, is                                                               
to  have  a series  of  projects  moving  forward to  enable  the                                                               
workforce to  get trained,  interned, and  developed into  a very                                                               
strong  group of  people who  can  be used  on the  international                                                               
stage.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:44:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BEDARD  stated  the   company's  strategic  development  has                                                               
traveled throughout the U.S. and  Canada and has made connections                                                               
around  the  world, including  Europe,  Asia,  and South  Africa.                                                               
They  have  been  ambassadors  of  goodwill  for  the  burgeoning                                                               
industry in Alaska.   She characterized the  Alaska film industry                                                               
as  one  which creates  the  best  overall public  relations  for                                                               
tourism and brings Alaska to  the international stage at a pretty                                                               
high  level. She  offered her  belief that  it will  be a  missed                                                               
opportunity  for Alaska  if this  bill goes  through.   She said,                                                               
"I'm deeply  saddened to say it  is not a good  business decision                                                               
to keep my company  here if it does go through  and that would be                                                               
a great loss to our state."   She read a statement from her chief                                                               
executive officer,  Canadian producer,  Thom Denomme,  as follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     I  am writing  to you  in reference  to HB  112 dealing                                                                    
     with the  Alaska Film Tax  Credits.  I am  curious that                                                                    
     this subject  is once  again being  broached as  we had                                                                    
     set our  business plan to  correspond with  the passing                                                                    
     of the  previous Bill on  Tax Credits and  it certainly                                                                    
     delivers a  red flag to  the industry as a  whole about                                                                    
     shooting in Alaska.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     The  subject  of  controversy seems  to  arise  in  the                                                                    
     mistaken  belief that  the tax  credits and  incentives                                                                    
     are  being used  to  pay the  salaries  of actors  from                                                                    
     outside  of Alaska,  creating a  campaign that  states,                                                                    
     "Why  should Alaska  taxpayers pay  the salary  of rich                                                                    
     Hollywood   stars?"     This  argument   has  as   much                                                                    
     credibility  as  stating  "Why   should  there  be  any                                                                    
     incentives  programs for  the oil  and gas  business in                                                                    
     Alaska?  These  incentives just go to  pay the salaries                                                                    
     of rich oil and gas executives."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     This would seem a strange  statement as the oil and gas                                                                    
     industry  is a  multi-billion dollar  industry creating                                                                    
     thousands  of  jobs  across  the   State.    Given  the                                                                    
     opportunity,  the film  and  television industry  could                                                                    
     also be creating a myriad  of opportunities not only in                                                                    
     the  film/television  business,  but  also  in  related                                                                    
     ancillary   businesses.     This   includes   shipping,                                                                    
     catering,   the  hospitality   industry,  construction,                                                                    
     transportation and most importantly, tourism.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:46:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BEDARD continued reading, as follows [original punctuation                                                                  
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The best  example of  how this can  affect a  region is                                                                    
     from my  home province of British  Columbia.  Utilizing                                                                    
     a  diverse  landscape  and strong  tax  credits  (sound                                                                    
     familiar?)  British Columbia  transformed itself to the                                                                    
     point  that  film and  television  is  now one  of  our                                                                    
     biggest industries.    When you add in  the tourism and                                                                    
     that was created  as a result of this, you  can see how                                                                    
     this  industry  has  been  a  tremendous  boom  to  the                                                                    
     overall economy of British Columbia.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     The challenge  is that most  producers have no  idea of                                                                    
     the diversity  of landscape that  Alaska has  to offer.                                                                    
     Unfortunately  most of  the shows  shot on  Alaska show                                                                    
     the State as inhospitable  tundra.  We've had producers                                                                    
     in  LA tell  us they  have  no winter  scenes in  their                                                                    
     film,  so why  should  they  shoot in  Alaska?   We  of                                                                    
     course  calmly explain  that  Alaska  does indeed  have                                                                    
     summer, show  them pictures  of the  incredible scenery                                                                    
     and mention that in certain  places, they can virtually                                                                    
     shoot around the clock as  there is virtually no night.                                                                    
     Now, THAT gets their attention!                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     The  challenge   is  that   Alaska  has   created  this                                                                    
     tremendous tax credit that has  the potential to create                                                                    
     a  whole  new  industry  for the  State  and  has  done                                                                    
     absolutely  nothing to  promote it.   The  potential is                                                                    
     there, the  template (from BC)  is there, yet  the only                                                                    
     thing  being created  is  uncertainty  and unease  from                                                                    
     producers when  they see Bills  such as this  one being                                                                    
     revisited.    The  key  to making  this  work  is  less                                                                    
     bureaucrats and more salespeople.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Anchorage  is ideally  situated six  hours from  LA and                                                                    
     six  hours  from  London England.    Alaska  should  be                                                                    
     actively   promoting   to   producers   worldwide   and                                                                    
     attending different  film festivals such as  MIPCOM and                                                                    
     NATPE.    My  partner  Irene Bedard  and  I  have  been                                                                    
     promoting Alaska  ourselves as  international producers                                                                    
     and would be more than happy  to work with the State in                                                                    
     this regard.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:48:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BEDARD continued reading [original punctuation provided]:                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     The  second  part  of this  equation  is  building  the                                                                    
     infrastructure of talent to  attract productions.  This                                                                    
     means creating jobs.   For our part, we  are creating a                                                                    
     Film  Institute  to  help  train  Alaskans,  especially                                                                    
     First  Alaskans, in  the film  industry.   We would  be                                                                    
     happy  to  have discussions  on  how  we can  all  work                                                                    
     together to  accomplish this.  By  following through on                                                                    
     this, we  are now creating  jobs for Alaskans,  not for                                                                    
     outside production companies.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     The last point I wish to  comment on is likely the most                                                                    
     important and that  is tourism.  I am not  privy to the                                                                    
     statistics,  nor  do  I feel  they  can  be  accurately                                                                    
     predicted but  I am going  to guess that  Alaskan based                                                                    
     shows have  created a tremendous  boost to  tourism and                                                                    
     tourism  based businesses.   Other  States with  strong                                                                    
     Film  Tax Credits,  such as  Louisiana  and New  Mexico                                                                    
     have also seen a growth to their tourism statistics.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Speaking for ourselves,  we have a slate  of shows that                                                                    
     will highlight  Alaska in the most  positive light. The                                                                    
     key to building this  industry in Alaska is commitment,                                                                    
     training,  cooperation  between  those  with  a  vested                                                                    
     interest  and a  sustained promotional  program.   As a                                                                    
     personal note, I would also  like to add that the State                                                                    
     has  a  strong promoter  and  ambassador  in Ms.  Irene                                                                    
     Bedard.   She is the  one who  convinced me to  open up                                                                    
     our  production  company  in  Alaska.    She  not  only                                                                    
     believes in  the incredible potential of  the State but                                                                    
     wanted   to  help   create   something  beautiful   and                                                                    
     meaningful in the  place she calls home.   I will leave                                                                    
     you with that.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     [Thom Denomme                                                                                                              
     CEO                                                                                                                        
     Sleeping Lady Films/Waking Giants Productions]                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:49:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
FRANCES  CHEEVER,  President  & CEO,  Squeaky  Reel  Productions;                                                               
Major, U.S. Army  Nurse Corps, Retired, stated  that she recently                                                               
retired after  32 years of service,  with most of her  service at                                                               
Walter Reed Army  Medical Center caring for  wounded warriors and                                                               
their  families.    She  said she  is  passionate  about  telling                                                               
stories about American heroes through  film and television, which                                                               
can entertain, educate, and heal  America.  As a screenwriter and                                                               
member of Veterans  in Film and Television, she  believes she can                                                               
do  so, in  particular, with  her  script 13  Pax, a  high-stakes                                                             
contemporary,  military page  turner that  takes the  audience to                                                               
one of  the military's far  reaching power  projection platforms:                                                               
Alaska.   She described the  basic mission  and skill set  of the                                                               
fictitious team, which  is a motley crew of  adrenaline junkies -                                                               
men  and women  - who  have proven  their mettle  as the  premier                                                               
combat-ready  medical team.   Last  year, after  spending only  a                                                               
week in Anchorage she fell in  love with Alaska and made the bold                                                               
move  to take  her feature  film to  Alaska and  write an  entire                                                               
sequel 13 Pax Derailed which is  set in Whittier and makes Alaska                                                             
a  central  character.   The  film  will showcase  the  beautiful                                                               
scenery, history,  and people of  Alaska, along with  service men                                                               
and women.  While in Alaska,  she spent time with the Alaska Army                                                               
National Guard's Public Affairs Officer  as well as the commander                                                               
of the 212th  Rescue squad on Elmendorf Air Force  Base (AFB) and                                                               
Richardson AFB.   The military  base has been very  excited about                                                               
having her film  come to Alaska since it has  all the ingredients                                                               
of  a   high-concept  feature  film   with  sequel   or  episodic                                                               
television   potential.     Additionally,  the   film  is   under                                                               
consideration for  optioning by some very  big Hollywood hitters.                                                               
What  has  contributed to  making  this  film a  more  attractive                                                               
venture  is the  AFPIP, she  said.   Further,  she indicated  the                                                               
Chief  of Public  Affairs for  the U.S.  Army wrote  a letter  of                                                               
encouragement for this  film and endorses it as the  script is in                                                               
concert with  U.S. Army values and  with funding.  Once  the U.S.                                                               
Department of  Defense (DOD)  production assistance  agreement is                                                               
secured, the DOD  will be inclined to support it,  she said.  She                                                               
emphasized  that having  military assets  available at  Elmendorf                                                               
Air Force Base  and the U.S. Army's support makes  Alaska an even                                                               
more attractive setting.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. CHEEVER said  that currently, she is working  with an Alaska-                                                               
based  production  company,  Sprocket  Heads.    She  anticipated                                                               
hiring  hundreds  of  local  people   for  this  film,  including                                                               
experienced local crew members,  Alaska service members, veterans                                                               
and their  families.  She concluded  by saying that HB  112 could                                                               
halt the potential future of  her film, its sequel, and potential                                                               
TV series  in Alaska.   She urged  members to please  support the                                                               
AFPIP and  honor the commitment  to keep the program  going until                                                               
2023.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:53:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KELLY  BENDER,  Owner,  Lazy  Otter  Charters,  stated  that  her                                                               
company provides water taxi, sightseeing,  and has a coffee shop.                                                               
While  she  is  not  directly  affiliated  with  the  local  film                                                               
industry, her  business is  a local  business that  has benefited                                                               
from  the industry.    She  related that  the  film industry  has                                                               
provided  direct business  opportunities  since  her company  has                                                               
taken out  film productions  on their  boats.   Additionally, her                                                               
business  has enjoyed  indirect  benefits since  the company  has                                                               
taken  crew and  cast on  sightseeing tours.   She  estimated the                                                               
industry has  provided about  $12,000-15,000 during  the shoulder                                                               
season for  her small mom-and-pop  operation.  Plus  her business                                                               
also  hires  local Alaskans  who  live  in  the community.    She                                                               
observed  that the  state often  supports industries  with finite                                                               
resources,  but here  is an  opportunity to  support an  industry                                                               
that  has  infinite  reach and  can  help  small  community-based                                                               
businesses and  industries.  She  hoped members  would understand                                                               
that this bill  has a much farther reach than  Hollywood since it                                                               
supports many businesses and people in Alaska.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:55:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GARY ZIMMERMAN, General Manager, Alaska  Rent a Car, Inc., stated                                                               
his business  is an  employee-owned licensee of  the Avis  Rent a                                                               
Car  system  that has  operated  in  Alaska  since 1955  in  many                                                               
communities in  Alaska.  He  currently employs  approximately 100                                                               
full-time  employees.    He  represents a  company  that  is  not                                                               
involved  in  film  production; however,  it  benefits  from  the                                                               
increased activity  this industry brings  to Alaska.   He offered                                                               
his  belief  that a  huge  economic  benefit is  felt  throughout                                                               
Alaska from  the film  production dollars.   Although some  is as                                                               
general  as increased  business to  hundreds of  companies, other                                                               
impacts are as  specific as direct wages to Alaskans,  as well as                                                               
increased  revenues  returned  to  state  and  local  government.                                                               
Although  he  only  works  in one  service  industry,  this  same                                                               
industry  generates over  $22 million  in actual  taxes and  fees                                                               
collected  from  renters,  which  is  paid  to  state  and  local                                                               
government,  including hotel  bed  taxes, car  rental taxes,  and                                                               
general  sales  taxes.    He emphasized  that  as  receipts  from                                                               
increased   business  activity   increase  so   do  revenues   to                                                               
governmental agencies.   Frankly,  the state  could not  begin to                                                               
pay for  the promotion of  or spend marketing dollars  that match                                                               
the advertising  done by productions  that feature Alaska.   This                                                               
increased  awareness helps  further the  state's goal  to promote                                                               
tourism  and  aid the  tourism  industry  such that  Alaska  will                                                               
surely  rank high  on  tourists'  list of  where  to spend  their                                                               
vacation dollars.   In fact, the film industry  is just beginning                                                               
to get  traction in  Alaska with  companies investing  in people,                                                               
training, facilities, and equipment,  but HB 112 will effectively                                                               
kill this industry  and the companies that are  working very hard                                                               
to help diversify Alaska's economy.   He urged members to look at                                                               
the  title of  this committee  and do  what they  can to  promote                                                               
labor and commerce in Alaska by voting against HB 112.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
[HB 112 was held over.]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:58:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON  recessed  the House  Labor  and  Commerce  Standing                                                               
Committee meeting until Wednesday, March 20 at 3:15 p.m.