ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         April 14, 2014                                                                                         
                           1:41 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wes Keller, Chair                                                                                                
Representative Bob Lynn, Vice Chair                                                                                             
Representative Neal Foster                                                                                                      
Representative Gabrielle LeDoux                                                                                                 
Representative Lance Pruitt                                                                                                     
Representative Max Gruenberg                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Charisse Millett                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 370                                                                                                              
"An Act relating  to employer drug testing;  requiring the Alaska                                                               
Workers' Compensation Board to adopt  regulations relating to the                                                               
prescription of controlled substances  to employees; and limiting                                                               
the prescription of controlled substances to employees."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSHB 370(L&C) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 315                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to juries in criminal cases; and providing for                                                                 
an effective date."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 173(JUD)                                                                                                 
"An Act relating to a prohibition on the possession, offer,                                                                     
display, marketing, advertising for sale, or sale of illicit                                                                    
synthetic drugs."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 128(JUD)                                                                                                 
"An Act relating to the crime of harassment."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HCS CSSB 128(JUD) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 170                                                                                                             
"An Act relating to a defense to the crime of prostitution for                                                                  
victims of sex trafficking."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE FOR SENATE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 2(JUD)                                                                
Urging the  United States Congress to  act on the request  of the                                                               
governor to acquire for the  state additional land in the Tongass                                                               
National Forest from the United  States government by purchase or                                                               
negotiation or by seeking amendment to the Alaska Statehood Act.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - SCHEDULED BUT NOT HEARD                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 254                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to powers of attorney; relating to the uniform                                                                 
probate code; and providing for an effective date."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     - BILL HEARING CANCELED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 370                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: AWCB CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE PRESCRIPTIONS                                                                            
SPONSOR(s): LABOR & COMMERCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
03/03/14       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/03/14       (H)       L&C, JUD                                                                                               
03/19/14       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/19/14       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/19/14       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/26/14       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/26/14       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/26/14       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
04/04/14       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
04/04/14       (H)       Moved CSHB 370(L&C) Out of Committee                                                                   
04/04/14       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
04/07/14       (H)       L&C RPT CS(L&C) NT 1DP 4NR 1AM                                                                         
04/07/14       (H)       DP: OLSON                                                                                              
04/07/14       (H)       NR: CHENAULT, HERRON, REINBOLD, SADDLER                                                                
04/07/14       (H)       AM: JOSEPHSON                                                                                          
04/07/14       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
04/07/14       (H)       <Bill Hearing Canceled>                                                                                
04/11/14       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
04/11/14       (H)       <Bill Hearing Canceled>                                                                                
04/14/14       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 315                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: JURY NULLIFICATION                                                                                                 
SPONSOR(s): T.WILSON                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
02/19/14       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/19/14       (H)       JUD                                                                                                    
03/26/14       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
03/26/14       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/26/14       (H)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
04/14/14       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 173                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: SYNTHETIC DRUGS                                                                                                    
SPONSOR(s): MEYER                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
02/14/14       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/14/14       (S)       JUD                                                                                                    
03/05/14       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
03/05/14       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/05/14       (S)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
03/12/14       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
03/12/14       (S)       Moved CSSB 173(JUD) Out of Committee                                                                   
03/12/14       (S)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
03/14/14       (S)       JUD RPT CS  3DP 1NR 1AM   NEW TITLE                                                                    
03/14/14       (S)       DP: COGHILL, MCGUIRE, DYSON                                                                            
03/14/14       (S)       NR: OLSON                                                                                              
03/14/14       (S)       AM: WIELECHOWSKI                                                                                       
03/14/14       (S)       FIN REFERRAL ADDED AFTER JUD                                                                           
03/18/14       (S)       FIN REFERRAL REMOVED                                                                                   
03/28/14       (S)       TRANSMITTED TO (H)                                                                                     
03/28/14       (S)       VERSION: CSSB 173(JUD)                                                                                 
03/31/14       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/31/14       (H)       JUD, FIN                                                                                               
04/10/14       (H)       FIN AT 8:30 AM HOUSE FINANCE 519                                                                       
04/10/14       (H)       <Pending Referral>                                                                                     
04/11/14       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
04/11/14       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/11/14       (H)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
04/14/14       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 128                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: ELECTRONIC BULLYING                                                                                                
SPONSOR(s): MEYER                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
01/22/14       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/22/14       (S)       JUD                                                                                                    
02/17/14       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
02/17/14       (S)       Scheduled But Not Heard                                                                                
02/19/14       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
02/19/14       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/19/14       (S)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
03/03/14       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
03/03/14       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/03/14       (S)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
03/07/14       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
03/07/14       (S)       Moved CSSB 128(JUD) Out of Committee                                                                   
03/07/14       (S)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
03/10/14       (S)       JUD RPT CS  2DP 1NR  SAME TITLE                                                                        
03/10/14       (S)       DP: COGHILL, DYSON                                                                                     
03/10/14       (S)       NR: OLSON                                                                                              
04/02/14       (S)       TRANSMITTED TO (H)                                                                                     
04/02/14       (S)       VERSION: CSSB 128(JUD)                                                                                 
04/03/14       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/03/14       (H)       JUD                                                                                                    
04/14/14       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 170                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE TO PROSTITUTION                                                                                
SPONSOR(s): GARDNER                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
02/12/14       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/12/14       (S)       JUD                                                                                                    
03/14/14       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
03/14/14       (S)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
03/17/14       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
03/17/14       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/17/14       (S)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
03/21/14       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
03/21/14       (S)       Moved SB 170 Out of Committee                                                                          
03/21/14       (S)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
03/24/14       (S)       JUD RPT  4DP                                                                                           
03/24/14       (S)       DP: COGHILL, WIELECHOWSKI, MCGUIRE,                                                                    
                         DYSON                                                                                                  
03/28/14       (S)       TRANSMITTED TO (H)                                                                                     
03/28/14       (S)       VERSION: SB 170                                                                                        
03/31/14       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/31/14       (H)       JUD                                                                                                    
04/09/14       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
04/09/14       (H)       Scheduled But Not Heard                                                                                
04/14/14       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
KONRAD JACKSON, Staff                                                                                                           
Representative Kurt Olson                                                                                                       
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Speaking on  behalf of Representative Olson,                                                             
chair  of  the  House  Labor  and  Commerce  Standing  Committee,                                                               
sponsor, introduced HB 370.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
AESHA PALLESEN, Assistant Attorney General                                                                                      
Labor and State Affairs Section                                                                                                 
Civil Division (Anchorage)                                                                                                      
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions  during the hearing of HB                                                             
370.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MIKE MONAGLE, Director                                                                                                          
Central Office                                                                                                                  
Division of Workers' Compensation                                                                                               
Department of Labor & Workforce Development                                                                                     
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Provided comments during the  hearing of HB                                                             
370.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PAMELA GOODE                                                                                                                    
Delta Junction, Alaska                                                                                                          
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified  in  favor of  HB  315 with  the                                                             
inclusion of certain amendments.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
RICHARD SVOBODNY, Deputy Attorney General                                                                                       
Central Office                                                                                                                  
Criminal Division                                                                                                               
Department of Law                                                                                                               
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:     Testified  in  opposition   to  HB  315;                                                           
suggested  two  changes  during the  hearing  of  CSSB  173(JUD);                                                               
answered  questions  during  the   hearing  of  CSSB  128  (JUD);                                                               
answered a question during the hearing of SB 170.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SARALYN TABACHNICK, Executive Director                                                                                          
Aiding Women in Abuse and Rape Emergencies, Inc. (AWARE)                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Expressed  concerns about HB  315 as  it is                                                             
currently drafted; testified in favor of SB 170.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
FRANK TURNEY                                                                                                                    
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in  favor of HB 315  with certain                                                             
amendments [not provided].                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MARIA RENSEL                                                                                                                    
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in favor of HB 315.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
JOHN BRADING                                                                                                                    
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the hearing of HB 315.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ALYSSA WILLIAMS                                                                                                                 
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in favor of HB 315.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MARK W. ECK                                                                                                                     
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in favor of HB 315 with certain                                                                
amendments.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ALEX MOORE                                                                                                                      
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in favor of HB 315.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
EDRA MORLEDGE, Staff                                                                                                            
Senator Kevin Meyer                                                                                                             
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Speaking on behalf of  Senator Meyer, prime                                                             
sponsor  of  CSSB  173(JUD),   provided  testimony  and  answered                                                               
questions); speaking  on behalf  of Senator Meyer,  prime sponsor                                                               
of CSSB 128(JUD), provided testimony and answered questions.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ELIZABETH RIPLEY, Executive Director                                                                                            
Mat-Su Health Foundation                                                                                                        
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in favor of HB 362 and SB 173.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
KELLI FARQUER                                                                                                                   
No city provided, Florida                                                                                                       
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in favor of SB 173.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
KATHLEEN STRASBAUGH, Attorney                                                                                                   
Legislative Legal Counsel                                                                                                       
Legislative Legal Services                                                                                                      
Legislative Affairs Agency                                                                                                      
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions during the hearing of                                                                 
CSSB 128(JUD).                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
QUINLAN STEINER, Director                                                                                                       
Central Office                                                                                                                  
Public Defender Agency                                                                                                          
Department of Administration                                                                                                    
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions during the hearing of                                                                 
CSSB 128(JUD).                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BERTA GARDNER                                                                                                           
Alaska State Legislator                                                                                                         
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Speaking as the sponsor of SB 170,                                                                       
introduced the bill.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
STEVEN HANDY, Staff                                                                                                             
Senator Berta Gardner                                                                                                           
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Speaking on behalf of Senator Gardner,                                                                   
sponsor, provided background information on SB 170 and answered                                                                 
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
TARA RUPANI, Member                                                                                                             
Community United for Safety and Protection                                                                                      
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to SB 170.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
KAYT SUNWOOD                                                                                                                    
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the hearing of SB 170.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
JON DUKE, Professor                                                                                                             
Department of Justice                                                                                                           
University of Alaska Fairbanks                                                                                                  
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in favor of SB 170.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MAXINE DOOGAN, Member                                                                                                           
Community United for Safety and Protection                                                                                      
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to SB 170.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
RICHARD ALLEN, Director                                                                                                         
Office of Public Advocacy                                                                                                       
Department of Administration                                                                                                    
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered a question during the hearing of                                                                
HB 370.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:41:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WES  KELLER called the  House Judiciary  Standing Committee                                                             
meeting to order at 1:41 p.m.   Present at the call to order were                                                               
Representatives  Pruitt,  Gruenberg,  Foster, Lynn,  and  Keller.                                                               
Representative LeDoux arrived as the meeting was in progress.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
         HB 370-AWCB CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE PRESCRIPTIONS                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:42:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER announced that the  first order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 370, "An  Act relating to employer  drug testing;                                                               
requiring  the  Alaska  Workers'   Compensation  Board  to  adopt                                                               
regulations   relating   to   the  prescription   of   controlled                                                               
substances  to  employees;  and   limiting  the  prescription  of                                                               
controlled substances to employees."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
[Before the committee was CSHB 370(L&C).]                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:43:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KONRAD JACKSON,  Staff, Representative  Kurt Olson,  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, speaking  on behalf  of Representative  Olson, chair                                                               
of  the  House  Labor  & Commerce  Standing  Committee,  sponsor,                                                               
informed  the committee  HB 370  is an  act relating  to employer                                                               
drug testing and requires the  Alaska Workers' Compensation Board                                                               
to adopt  regulations related to  the prescription  of controlled                                                               
substances.    He  noted  that  two  sections  of  the  bill  are                                                               
especially  important.    One  section  directs  that  should  an                                                               
injured worker require a long-term  opiate prescription, after 90                                                               
days  he/she  may be  subject  to  a  random urinalysis  test  to                                                               
confirm that they  are taking the medication, and to  call for an                                                               
adjustment  in medication,  if needed.   It  has been  found that                                                               
after  90  days or  longer,  a  patient  may  not be  taking  the                                                               
prescriptive dose,  and adjustments  are needed.   The  intent is                                                               
"to  really help  get those  injured workers  well sooner."   Mr.                                                               
Jackson said further  studies indicate that the  long-term use of                                                               
opioids  can lead  to  addiction, and  thus there  is  a need  to                                                               
ensure  that  workers  receive   the  medication  at  the  proper                                                               
strength.   The other important part  of the bill deals  with the                                                               
length of time  for which a Schedule 1 drug  [defined by the U.S.                                                               
Controlled   Substances  Act]   is  prescribed,   and  recommends                                                               
reducing the time  period to a 30-day prescription.   He stressed                                                               
that the  focus of the proposed  legislation is on the  return to                                                               
good health  of the injured  worker for the purpose  of returning                                                               
him/her to productivity.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:46:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  asked whether  an employer is  required to                                                               
pay  for  more  than  a   90-day  prescription  of  a  controlled                                                               
substance.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. JACKSON explained  that after 90 days of taking  a Schedule 1                                                               
opiate, a  drug test may be  administered to the worker.   If the                                                               
worker is not taking the  drug, future prescriptions would not be                                                               
paid for under the assumption that  is the patient's choice and a                                                               
change in medication is warranted.   Again, the intent is to help                                                               
doctors  determine the  injured worker's  level of  pain and  the                                                               
proper prescription.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER  said he was  convinced that  there is a  problem in                                                               
the state related  to the use of painkillers,  noting that Alaska                                                               
has the highest cost for Workers' Compensation.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX asked  whether a  worker is  limited to  a                                                               
prescription  of  30  days  or  if there  can  be  an  additional                                                               
prescription after seeing a doctor.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JACKSON  said  after  another  visit  with  the  doctor,  an                                                               
additional  prescription can  be written.   He  pointed out  that                                                               
these steps  will "increase  some of the  oversight and  stop the                                                               
large quantities of the opiates from being ... in circulation."                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:51:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  asked  Mr. Jackson  whether  the  drug                                                               
Nuvigil is one  of the drugs referred  to in the bill  on page 2,                                                               
lines 7-14, subsections (p) and (q).                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. JACKSON said he did not know.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG disclosed  that  he  is prescribed  the                                                               
drug Nuvigil and may have a conflict of interest.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:52:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX  posed  a  scenario in  which  an  injured                                                               
worker  was  instructed by  a  doctor  to  reduce the  amount  of                                                               
medication  whenever  possible, and  the  worker  did, but  later                                                               
there was a  need to return to  the higher dosage.   She said her                                                               
understanding of the bill is that  if a worker tests negative due                                                               
to the  lower dosage, the  employer may not  pay for a  return to                                                               
the higher dosage.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. JACKSON explained  that the bill reduces  the prescription to                                                               
a 30-day supply to ensure  closer interaction between patient and                                                               
physician.   He opined that  all doctors wish patients  to reduce                                                               
the  prescribed  dosage  as  soon   as  possible  to  help  avoid                                                               
addiction.  However, after 90  days, the worker should again talk                                                               
with a  doctor as it is  expected that the worker  would not need                                                               
another prescription.   The  idea [of the  bill] is  to encourage                                                               
patients to  restrict their use  of "heavy narcotics" as  soon as                                                               
possible due to possible addiction  problems and the high cost of                                                               
the drug to the Workers' Compensation system.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER asked whether a  worker who is selling his/her drugs                                                               
could take one pill to pass the random drug test.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JACKSON said  that  is  a possibility  and  deferred to  the                                                               
Division  of   Worker's  Compensation,  Department  of   Labor  &                                                               
Workforce Development, for information  on regulations related to                                                               
the administration of the test.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:56:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX questioned  whether the  sponsor's concern                                                               
is about doctors who are  overprescribing medications, and if so,                                                               
suggested  the  committee  discuss  the problem  with  the  State                                                               
Medical  Board,  Department  of Commerce,  Community  &  Economic                                                               
Development.  She said she did  not see the difference between an                                                               
injured  worker receiving  Workers' Compensation  and an  injured                                                               
person who does not.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. JACKSON  agreed the  focus of  HB 370 is  on workers  who are                                                               
receiving   Workers'  Compensation.   The  societal   problem  of                                                               
addiction and the overuse of  opiates should be a serious concern                                                               
of everyone; however, this bill seeks  to reduce the high cost of                                                               
drugs to Workers' Compensation.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KELLER mentioned  a bill  currently in  the House  Finance                                                               
Committee which addresses the problem from a different approach.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  asked whether state  medical organizations                                                               
have commented on the bill.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JACKSON  expressed  his  belief that  the  sponsor  has  not                                                               
received  any  negative  comments  from  the  medical  community.                                                               
Concerns have  been received  from labor  organizations, although                                                               
there has been  previous testimony in support of the  bill in its                                                               
current form from representatives of AFL/CIO and Teamsters.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:59:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GRUENBERG  asked   about   the  possible   self-                                                               
incrimination implications  of the bill.   He suggested  that the                                                               
committee  hear  testimony  from   the  Public  Defender  Agency,                                                               
Department of Administration.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JACKSON  assured the  committee  that  the  bill is  not  an                                                               
attempt  to  search  for  criminals but  is  focused  on  getting                                                               
workers the level of medication needed.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:01:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AESHA  PALLESEN,  Assistant  Attorney General,  Labor  and  State                                                               
Affairs  Section,   Civil  Division  (Anchorage),   informed  the                                                               
committee that the language in  the bill states that the negative                                                               
drug  test could  only be  used for  the purpose  of establishing                                                               
that  the employer  may be  able to  refuse to  pay for  a future                                                               
prescription of the drug.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  was  not satisfied  by  the  foregoing                                                               
information because, although  other uses are not  allowed by the                                                               
language in the  bill, other uses must be  prevented under Alaska                                                               
law.   He  asked if  the bill  provides that  the information  is                                                               
confidential,  and  whether  the information  could  "become  the                                                               
fruit of the poisonous tree."                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PALLESEN advised  that  the state  currently  has a  "pretty                                                               
comprehensive  scheme  addressing  drug and  alcohol  testing  by                                                               
employers"  and the  proposed  subsection of  the  bill would  be                                                               
subject to all  of the conditions and  restrictions [currently in                                                               
law] including  a confidentiality  provision.   To Representative                                                               
Gruenberg's  second  question, she  answered  that  there may  be                                                               
concerns about the criminal implications  of the bill if the test                                                               
result  information  was  used for  criminal  purposes,  but  the                                                               
limitation  on the  allowed  use  of the  negative  drug test  is                                                               
intended to prevent that.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG urged  for  a full  exploration of  the                                                               
possible  implications  to  physician/patient privilege,  and  to                                                               
"the conduit theory."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:04:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE  MONAGLE, Director,  Central  Office,  Division of  Workers'                                                               
Compensation,  Department  of   Labor  &  Workforce  Development,                                                               
pointed out that Workers' Compensation  is generally exempt under                                                               
the Health  Insurance Portability and Accountability  Act of 1996                                                               
(HIPPA);  therefore, the  communication between  those conducting                                                               
the  testing  and the  employer  does  not  have the  same  HIPPA                                                               
protection that  "general health"  would have.   Typically,  in a                                                               
Workers' Compensation  action, the  term "employer"  includes the                                                               
employer's insurance  company or  its claims  administrator, thus                                                               
testing under  the proposed provision  would be through  the case                                                               
manager  or claims  administrator  for  the employer's  insurance                                                               
company.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KELLER  said  HB  370  would  be  set  aside  for  further                                                               
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[The committee returned to HB 370 later in the meeting.]                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                   HB 315-JURY NULLIFICATION                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:06:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER announced  that the next order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL NO.  315,  "An  Act relating  to  juries in  criminal                                                               
cases; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:06:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER opened public testimony.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:07:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAMELA  GOODE, Delta  Junction,  informed the  committee she  was                                                               
representing  herself  as a  private  citizen.   She  stated  her                                                               
support  for  HB   315  with  the  inclusion   of  the  following                                                               
amendments [to HB  315, Version 28-LS1467\U, on page  1, line 14,                                                               
section 1, (c)]:                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     delete "Notwithstanding  any other law;" add  "No facts                                                                    
     tried by the jury shall  be otherwise reexamined in any                                                                    
     court of the  United States, according to  the rules of                                                                    
     the common law."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. GOODE said with the  aforementioned changes she supported the                                                               
bill.   The  bill is  necessary  for the  restoration of  justice                                                               
because  currently  there  is bureaucratic  code  that  oversteps                                                               
statute,  statutes  that  overstep  the  U.S.  Constitution,  and                                                               
judges who  have forgotten  their proper  lawful authority.   She                                                               
gave an example  of a person who committed a  misdemeanor and had                                                               
to  pay  a   fine.    Ms.  Goode  opined  that   a  jury  of  the                                                               
misdemeanant's peers  would have determined that  "he did nothing                                                               
wrong."                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:10:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RICHARD  SVOBODNY,  Deputy   Attorney  General,  Central  Office,                                                               
Criminal Division,  Department of  Law, provided a  brief history                                                               
of  his  experience with  racial  prejudice  40  years ago.    He                                                               
related current  statistics that  show over 100  American Indians                                                               
have been  executed for murdering  Caucasians, and the  number of                                                               
Caucasians who have been executed  for murdering American Indians                                                               
- in the  entire history of the  U.S. - is zero.   He said, "That                                                               
is jury  nullification."  Mr.  Svobodny turned to  the procedural                                                               
problems associated with the bill  and cautioned that if the bill                                                               
passes,  the effect  would  be  that the  rules  of evidence  are                                                               
eliminated if  the accused is  convicted, and the trial  moves to                                                               
jury nullification.   He  said, "Rules  of evidence  really don't                                                               
apply, [and]  that's a change not  in one court rule,  but in all                                                               
the rules of  evidence."  He pointed out that  although it is not                                                               
specified by the  caption of the bill, this  change would require                                                               
a two-thirds majority  vote.  Also, the bill changes  a number of                                                               
rules of  criminal procedure, but  is not a suspension  of rules.                                                               
The bill  directs that  after deliberation, if  the jury  finds a                                                               
person guilty,  there is a  "switch to  whether that was  just or                                                               
unjust," but  the bill  is silent  on situations  such as  a hung                                                               
jury on the issue  of whether the verdict is just  or unjust.  He                                                               
characterized  the  proposed  legislation as  ambiguous  in  that                                                               
regard.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:15:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SVOBODNY further  cautioned  about unforeseen  consequences;                                                               
for example, the vast majority  of weapons offenses in Alaska are                                                               
prosecuted by the  state, not the federal  government, thus these                                                               
cases  would most  likely be  moved from  state court  to federal                                                               
court, which is counterproductive to  the state's efforts to stem                                                               
federal  overreach.    He  informed the  committee  that  DOL  is                                                               
opposed to the bill.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER asked whether courts  ever levy penalties, fines, or                                                               
sanctions against a juror for wrongdoing.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. SVOBODNY  said yes and no.   Jurors can receive  sanctions if                                                               
they don't  show up for jury  duty, and the court  could sanction                                                               
jury members  if it had issued  an order to not  read a newspaper                                                               
and a  juror disregarded the order.   However, he was  unaware of                                                               
an instance  where a court  has imposed sanctions on  the jurors,                                                               
although misconduct by  jurors has led to the retrial  of a case.                                                               
Chair  Keller clarified  that he  was asking  about sanctions  in                                                               
response to  a juror's decision,  and Mr. Svobodny said  "No, ...                                                               
the jury's deliberative process is privileged from disclosure."                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN asked whether the  principles of the bill are                                                               
connected  with  a recent  confrontation  in  Nevada involving  a                                                               
cattle rancher  whose cattle  were seized by  the Bureau  of Land                                                               
Management  (BLM), U.S.  Department  of the  Interior, after  the                                                               
rancher lost two cases in court.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SVOBODNY  said  misconduct  on   the  part  of  the  federal                                                               
government is  more transparent  than the  activities of  a jury,                                                               
where deliberations are  generally confidential.  It  may be that                                                               
the rancher has  a moral or just  cause - or not -  but that does                                                               
not nullify  the law, which  was made  by the legislature.   [The                                                               
bill]  is really  saying,  "The  people can  ignore  the law  you                                                               
make."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG   stated  he   would  provide   to  the                                                               
committee an article about someone  convicted of murder and after                                                               
25  years  in  jail,  it  was recently  determined  that  he  was                                                               
innocent.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:21:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SARALYN  TABACHNICK, Executive  Director, Aiding  Women in  Abuse                                                               
and  Rape  Emergencies,  Inc.  (AWARE),  said  that  one  of  her                                                               
concerns  about HB  315 is  that a  defendant could  subpoena the                                                               
testimony  of  a  victim's counselor,  thereby  disregarding  the                                                               
statutory victim  counselor privilege  established in  the Alaska                                                               
Statutes in 1992.  She  pointed out that the legislature recently                                                               
strengthened  the  confidentiality  statute to  include  military                                                               
counselors.   Ms.  Tabachnick cautioned  that  the proposed  bill                                                               
could  have   a  tremendous  impact  on   whether  victims  speak                                                               
confidentially to  advocates.  Another  concern is that  the Rape                                                               
Shield Statute [AS 12.45.045] would  essentially be repealed, and                                                               
this is a statute that was recently expanded by the legislature.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:23:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
FRANK TURNEY  informed the committee he  is a jury activist.   He                                                               
said  he  was  in  support  of HB  315  "with  amendments  added"                                                               
[amendments not  provided].  Mr.  Turney agreed with  others that                                                               
the  bill  as  written  leaves  too much  "wiggle  room"  and  he                                                               
expressed his support  for amendments that have  been provided to                                                               
Representative  Tammie Wilson.   He  informed the  committee that                                                               
the freedoms of  religion, speech, and assembly  under common law                                                               
were established by  the "William Penn file  of jury acquittals."                                                               
Mr. Turney provided  a short history of another  instance of jury                                                               
nullification in  1735 that -  he opined  - led to  the cherished                                                               
tradition of freedom  of the press in America.   He urged for the                                                               
committee  to  not rush  to  judgment  in  order to  satisfy  the                                                               
Department of Law, and read  from a statement accredited to Judge                                                               
Weeks as follows:                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     You know, jurors don't have the right, but they've got                                                                     
     the power.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TURNEY said  having  power gives  a  right, especially  when                                                               
there is no  victim.  He further urged the  committee to research                                                               
this matter.   He  spoke of his  personal experience  with juries                                                               
over 25 years  and stressed that 26 states under  the preamble of                                                               
free speech  recognize jury nullification  rights.   He concluded                                                               
that when  the U.S.  Constitution was  written "they  dropped the                                                               
ball on jury rights."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:27:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARIA RENSEL  said she was speaking  for herself in favor  of the                                                               
bill  and  "the  amendments  that  were  mentioned  by  [previous                                                               
speaker] Pam  Goode."  She stated  that HB 315 is  the first step                                                               
to  restoring jury  rights in  Alaska, and  expressed her  belief                                                               
that  jury  nullification does  not  equal  racism.   Ms.  Rensel                                                               
supported  adding to  the bill  a statement  "that the  judges in                                                               
every state shall  be bound by the Constitution"  and referred to                                                               
her written comments  that have been forwarded  to the committee.                                                               
She  spoke  of her  personal  experience  serving  on a  jury  in                                                               
Fairbanks.  Ms. Rensel said  jury nullification rights began with                                                               
the   Magna  Carta   and  are   also  guaranteed   by  the   U.S.                                                               
Constitution.  Her  experience on a jury led her  to believe that                                                               
"we have been  indoctrinated or educated out of our  vote, out of                                                               
our rights."   She provided a  brief history of the  jury's right                                                               
to judge  laws as well as  the facts, and questioned  whether the                                                               
government is a  government of the people or a  government of the                                                               
lawyers.  Ms. Rensel remarked:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Both  the  trial  jury  and  the  grand  jury  are  the                                                                    
     people's  everyday way  of  reining  in governments  at                                                                    
     every level.  ... The only  way that we can  ... really                                                                    
     clean  up  encroachments  by   our  local,  state,  and                                                                    
     federal  governments  is  to  be  able  to  investigate                                                                    
     things and  act on juries.  ... The elections  can only                                                                    
     ensure our  democracy but it's really  the jury's right                                                                    
     to nullify and judge the law  as well as the facts that                                                                    
     will ensure our republic.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:31:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  BRADING read  several  short quotes  from  a book  entitled                                                               
"Citizen's Rule  Book," published  by Whitten Printers,  and from                                                               
an essay by Lysander Spooner dated  1850.  He also referenced two                                                               
legal cases:   State of  Georgia v. Brailsford (1794)  and United                                                           
States v. Dougherty, 1972.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BRADING asked  the committee  to  restore honor  to "we  the                                                               
people."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:34:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALYSSA WILLIAMS said  she was representing herself  and read from                                                               
a document  [not provided].   She said, "Currently in  Alaska, if                                                               
you  are called  to  jury  duty you  are  expected  to forget  or                                                               
forfeit this responsibility; you are  thrown out for knowing that                                                               
you  were responsible  for judging  not only  the facts,  but the                                                               
law."    Ms. Williams  stated  that  judges and  prosecutors  are                                                               
responsible to  protect life, liberty, and  property, and "should                                                               
not  be  allowed to  sway  convictions  for their  own  benefit."                                                               
Constitutionality, not tyranny, should be  applied in the courts.                                                               
Furthermore,  the  jury  is  to defend  and  justly  convict  the                                                               
individual  and not  protect  the  government or  the  law.   Ms.                                                               
Williams  concluded that  HB  315  is needed  and  asked for  the                                                               
committee's support of the bill.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:36:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARK W.  ECK stressed to  the committee that jurors  are citizens                                                               
as are defendants and members  of the committee "when they're not                                                               
in office."  He said the  bill would secure the rights of jurors.                                                               
When jurors  are called to  serve, potential jurors are  asked if                                                               
they believe  in the  rights of  jurors.  If  the answer  is yes,                                                               
they are  dismissed from the jury,  which is "a violation  of not                                                               
only our  rights as jurors, but  as people."  He  quoted from the                                                               
Fully Informed Jury Association as follows:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The primary  function of the independent  juror is not,                                                                    
     as  many  think,  to   dispense  punishment  to  fellow                                                                    
     citizens accused  of breaking various laws,  but rather                                                                    
     to protect  fellow citizens  from tyrannical  abuses of                                                                    
     power by government.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. ECK continued  to explain that the jury is  the final defense                                                               
from  unjust  laws that  take  away  the  natural rights  of  the                                                               
people.  He said jury duty is  an honor, not a chore, because one                                                               
puts  himself/herself  in  the  position  of  the  defendant  and                                                               
decides  whether  the  defendant  wronged another.    However,  a                                                               
defendant is given another tool  of defense against an unjust law                                                               
or application of such, and under  HB 315, the defendant would be                                                               
able to explain the rights of  jury duty to the jury, in addition                                                               
to instruction  from a government  official, and  the opportunity                                                               
is given  to the  prosecution to rebut  the information  given to                                                               
the  jury.   The citizens  of Alaska  need this  bill to  further                                                               
secure their liberty in today's uncertain times.  He remarked:                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     By moving  this bill  forth, with the  people's desired                                                                    
     amendments,  you will  be setting  an  example for  the                                                                    
     rest  of the  country and  will go  down in  history as                                                                    
     protectors of liberty  and the rights of  we the people                                                                    
     of the  United States  of America  and the  citizens of                                                                    
     Alaska.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:39:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALEX  MOORE  said  he  strongly  supports  the  rights  for  jury                                                               
nullification because  all Americans have  constitutional rights.                                                               
He  provided  an  example  of  a  man  who  committed  a  traffic                                                               
violation to do  what he thought was right.   Mr. Moore said, "If                                                               
you are trying  to remove these rights to have  a conscience, and                                                               
decide what is wrong and right,  then you're not really acting as                                                               
a citizen."  He strongly urged for the passage of the bill.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[HB 315 was held over.]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                     SB 173-SYNTHETIC DRUGS                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:42:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER announced  that the next order of  business would be                                                               
CS  FOR  SENATE  BILL  NO.   173(JUD),  "An  Act  relating  to  a                                                               
prohibition  on   the  possession,  offer,   display,  marketing,                                                               
advertising for sale, or sale of illicit synthetic drugs."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:43:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 2:43 p.m. to 2:44 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:44:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EDRA  MORLEDGE,   Staff,  Senator   Kevin  Meyer,   Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  speaking on  behalf  of Senator  Meyer, sponsor  of                                                               
CSSB 173(JUD), informed  the committee that the  sponsor has made                                                               
no changes  to the  bill since the  previous hearing  on 4/11/14;                                                               
however, she pointed  out that the sponsor  worked extensively on                                                               
the bill with the Department  of Law (DOL); Legislative Legal and                                                               
Research  Services,   Legislative  Affairs  Agency;   the  Public                                                               
Defender Agency  (PDA), Department of Administration;  the Office                                                               
of Public  Advocacy (OPA), Department of  Administration; and the                                                               
Municipality   of  Anchorage   Legal  Department,   Criminal  Law                                                               
(Prosecution).     She  acknowledged  that  the   bill  takes  an                                                               
unconventional  route by  targeting  the  packaging of  synthetic                                                               
drugs - rather  than their chemical compounds -  to get synthetic                                                               
drugs off the street.  This  route has been implemented by a town                                                               
in Maine  without [legal] challenge  thus far.   The Municipality                                                               
of  Anchorage (MOA)  implemented a  related ordinance  in January                                                               
2014, and  has been successful  at removing synthetic  drugs from                                                               
head shops,  smoke shops, and  convenience stores.  In  an effort                                                               
to ensure  that there would  not be illegalization  of legitimate                                                               
substances by  the proposed legislation,  the bill  requires that                                                               
packaging  meet one  criterion from  [section 1,  subsection (b),                                                               
paragraph (1)]  of the  bill and one  criterion from  [section 1,                                                               
subsection  (b),  paragraph  (2)]  of the  bill.    Ms.  Morledge                                                               
further explained that  the list of names  of drugs [subparagraph                                                               
G] could be  removed from the bill  and as long as  the drugs met                                                               
one  of the  other criteria  in paragraph  [(2)] and  one of  the                                                               
criteria in [paragraph (1)], a case could be proven.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER  clarified that the aforementioned  prohibitions are                                                               
if the  drug meets one  criterion of section 1,  [subsection (b),                                                               
paragraph (1),  or one  criterion of  section 1,  subsection (b),                                                               
paragraph (2)], of the bill.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MORLEDGE continued  to explain  that  [CSSB 173(JUD)]  makes                                                               
very clear in the penalty section  that a person who violates the                                                               
proposed  statute  is  guilty  of  a  violation;  therefore,  the                                                               
involvement  of the  Public  Defender Agency  and  the Office  of                                                               
Public Advocacy  was removed,  which in  turn generated  new zero                                                               
fiscal notes of which are now available.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:48:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX inquired  as to why the  sponsor decided to                                                               
propose  legislation on  the statewide  level,  rather than  have                                                               
each municipality make that choice.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. MORLEDGE  said the sponsor  was approached by MOA  to proceed                                                               
on a statewide  level in order to prevent a  person from avoiding                                                               
prosecution by traveling beyond the municipal boundaries.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:49:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RICHARD  SVOBODNY,  Deputy   Attorney  General,  Central  Office,                                                               
Criminal  Division, Department  of  Law, surmised  that the  main                                                               
issue  between the  sponsor, PDA,  and  OPA is  whether the  bill                                                               
addresses  a criminal  matter or  a  civil matter.   He  directed                                                               
attention to the bill on page 3, lines 21 and 22, which read:                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     (c) A person who violates AS 17.21.010 is guilty of a                                                                      
       violation and, upon conviction, is punishable by a                                                                       
     fine of not more than $500.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. SVOBODNY, in order to  prevent said violation from becoming a                                                               
criminal matter, suggested the following clarifying language:                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
       A person who violates AS 17.21.010 is subject to a                                                                       
     civil penalty of not more than $500.00.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SVOBODNY also suggested the  addition of subsection (e) which                                                               
read:                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
        (e) The burden of proof is by a preponderance of                                                                        
     evidence.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. SVOBODNY  opined the aforementioned  suggestions "get  to the                                                               
goal of the  sponsor and of the office[s] of  public advocacy and                                                               
the  public defender."   In  response to  Representative Pruitt's                                                               
point about  the validity  of drug street  names, he  advised one                                                               
option  is  to  remove  the related  section  from  the  proposed                                                               
statute for  placement instead in the  non-codified provisions of                                                               
the bill.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:53:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX observed that the  bill is drafted with the                                                               
intention  of the  violation being  civil  rather than  criminal.                                                               
The violation  would be decided  by a preponderance  of evidence,                                                               
and  thus there  is no  right  to a  jury  trial or  to a  public                                                               
defender.  However, the supporting  documents give the impression                                                               
that  the  proposed violation  should  be  criminal.   She  asked                                                               
whether  there  exists  case  law  related  to  legislation  that                                                               
"phrase[s]  something  in  a civil  manner  which  you're  really                                                               
trying  to criminalize  and thus  makes it  so that  people don't                                                               
have their rights to trial  by jury and changes the preponderance                                                               
of  evidence.   Is  there any  law out  there  which talks  about                                                               
whether that's okay to do?"                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:54:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SVOBODNY said  he did not know of any  cases; however, he has                                                               
examples of similar  situations that have not  been challenged in                                                               
court.   He  recalled  that the  legislature,  with the  specific                                                               
intent  to eliminate  jury  trials, for  first  and second  minor                                                               
consuming offenses changed the law.   The Alaska Court of Appeals                                                               
said  because  the offenses  include  the  loss of  a  [driver's]                                                               
license, the offenders still had a  right to an attorney and to a                                                               
jury trial.   The court  of appeals did  not say it  was improper                                                               
for the  legislature to change  the law.  Mr.  Svobodny explained                                                               
the elimination of the offenses was designed to reduce costs.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX   further  questioned   whether  depriving                                                               
people of the right to do  business could be subject to "the same                                                               
kind of arguments."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SVOBODNY   gave  the  scenario  in   which  the  legislature                                                               
eliminates  the offense  of  tampering  with gravestones,  making                                                               
this  offense a  civil matter  but  not changing  its effect;  he                                                               
opined that  legislators are policymakers and  can decide whether                                                               
an action is civil, criminal, or neither.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:58:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ELIZABETH RIPLEY,  Executive Director, Mat-Su  Health Foundation,                                                               
stated that  she was testifying  in favor of  HB 362 and  SB 173.                                                               
She  informed the  committee that  the  Mat-Su Health  Foundation                                                               
shares  ownership  in  the Mat-Su  Regional  Medical  Center  and                                                               
invests its  profits back  into the  Mat-Su community  to improve                                                               
the  health and  wellness  of  Alaskans living  in  Mat-Su.   Ms.                                                               
Ripley said a recent community  health needs assessment indicated                                                               
that community members  rank alcohol and substance  abuse the top                                                               
health issue in Mat-Su.  The  medical center has seen an increase                                                               
of patients  coming to the  emergency department who  have health                                                               
issues due  to the use  of synthetic  drugs.  Thrive  Mat-Su, the                                                               
local  substance abuse  prevention coalition,  helped author  the                                                               
original state legislation passed in  2011 - which focused on the                                                               
composition of the  drugs - and which has  created challenges for                                                               
enforcement  as   drug  dealers   introduce  new   chemicals  and                                                               
compositions.   She advised  that youth believe  if a  product is                                                               
legally for sale and  can be purchased, it is safe.   If there is                                                               
not a way  to address the alteration of the  drugs by dealers, it                                                               
is necessary  to curtail access to  the drugs by youth  through a                                                               
different  law   that  addresses   the  sale  and   marketing  of                                                               
substances.  She  said SB 173 is an  evidence-based strategy used                                                               
in  other  states to  limit  access  to  synthetic drugs  and  to                                                               
decrease their use  and their negative impact  on individuals and                                                               
communities.   Importantly, this  legislation sends a  message to                                                               
youth  of  the  efforts  to  protect them  from  the  dangers  of                                                               
synthetic drugs.   Thrive Mat-Su  also supports  legislation that                                                               
addresses the marketing and sale  of synthetic drugs.  The Mat-Su                                                               
Health Foundation  Board unanimously  supports the passage  of SB                                                               
173 and is  actively supporting similar legislation  at the local                                                               
level.  Ms. Ripley asked for expedited passage of the bill.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:00:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KELLI FARQUER said  she was representing herself  and voices that                                                               
can no longer  be heard from children under age  who can purchase                                                               
substances  that are  illegal,  but that  are readily  available.                                                               
The  elimination  of  this  drug  can  only  be  accomplished  by                                                               
eliminating  the  ability  to  purchase  it,  not  by  making  it                                                               
illegal.  Ms. Farquer said she  lost her son in November 2013, in                                                               
Wasilla, for no  other reason than it was  available cheap, which                                                               
her son  interpreted to mean that  the drug was safe.   His death                                                               
has  been deemed  undetermined due  to the  lack of  laws against                                                               
this type  of drug.   Her  research has  revealed that  there are                                                               
many deaths due to this type  of synthetic drug and its high cost                                                               
to civilization.   Synthetic drugs  are a worldwide  epidemic and                                                               
are mass-produced  and sold at a  700 percent profit margin.   To                                                               
truly remove this  drug from the market it must  be too expensive                                                               
to purchase or  sell.  There are no benefits  to mankind from the                                                               
drug.   If the drug is  illegal it will remain  available because                                                               
the profit  is worth the  risk; it is  illegal in Florida  and is                                                               
still widely  available. This legislation  sets a  good precedent                                                               
for  others to  follow because  support for  this bill  will save                                                               
lives.  Ms.  Farquer asked the committee to support  the bill and                                                               
to urge other civic leaders to do the same in their states.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:03:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KELLER, after  ascertaining  that no  one  else wished  to                                                               
testify, closed public testimony.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FOSTER, in  response to an earlier  question as to                                                               
why statewide legislation is being  proposed, explained that many                                                               
communities in Alaska  do not have a municipal  structure to make                                                               
synthetic drugs illegal  locally.  He stressed  the importance of                                                               
statewide legislation to rural Alaska.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:04:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG voiced his  concern about the additional                                                               
expense  of statewide  legislation for  a program  that has  been                                                               
successful   in  the   Municipality   of   Anchorage  and   other                                                               
municipalities.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
[CSSB 173(JUD) was held over.]                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                   SB 128-ELECTRONIC BULLYING                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:05:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER announced  that the next order of  business would be                                                               
CS FOR  SENATE BILL NO. 128(JUD),  "An Act relating to  the crime                                                               
of harassment."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:06:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EDRA MORLEDGE, Staff, Senator Kevin  Meyer, speaking on behalf of                                                               
Senator  Meyer,  prime sponsor  of  CSSB  128[JUD], informed  the                                                               
committee the  bill is aimed  at reducing  electronic harassment,                                                               
which  is  otherwise  known  as   cyberbullying.    The  proposed                                                               
legislation would  make this  offense a  class B  misdemeanor and                                                               
inserts  a  new  paragraph   into  Alaska's  existing  harassment                                                               
statute.   The  current  language  of the  bill  (Version G)  was                                                               
drafted by the sponsor, the  Department of Law (DOL), Legislative                                                               
Legal and Research Services, Legislative  Affairs Agency, and the                                                               
Senate  Judiciary   Standing  Committee.     The   bill  protects                                                               
individuals  under the  age  of 18  years  because, although  the                                                               
current  statute under  education  requires  school districts  to                                                               
establish  policies   and  procedures  for  bullying   on  school                                                               
grounds, electronic  bullying occurs outside of  school in social                                                               
media sites, and through texts and email.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:07:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER directed attention to page 2, line 5, which read:                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
       ... manner that causes severe mental or emotional                                                                        
     injury or places the person in ...                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KELLER  expressed  his   belief  that  the  aforementioned                                                               
condition  would  be  hard  to  define,  and  he  suggested  that                                                               
removing the words "causes severe  mental or emotional injury or"                                                               
would strengthen the bill.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MORLEDGE  said the  sponsor  is  amenable to  the  suggested                                                               
change.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX asked  why the  legislation is  limited to                                                               
protecting persons under  18 years of age.   Also, she questioned                                                               
why something  that "would  cause a  reasonable fear  of physical                                                               
injury" is not assault regardless of a person's age.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MORLEDGE  explained that  the  intent  of  the bill  was  to                                                               
protect school-age  children because they are  more vulnerable to                                                               
harassment.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX  restated  her point  that  threatening  a                                                               
person  to cause  a  fear  of physical  injury  is assault  under                                                               
existing statutes.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. MORLEDGE deferred to the drafter of the bill.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:10:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATHLEEN   STRASBAUGH,  Attorney,   Legislative  Legal   Counsel,                                                               
Legislative  Legal  and  Research Services,  Legislative  Affairs                                                               
Agency,  responded that  existing  statute states  that a  person                                                               
commits the crime of assault in  the fourth degree if by words or                                                               
other  contact, the  person recklessly  places another  person in                                                               
fear  of imminent  physical injury.   She  directed attention  to                                                               
page 1, line 4 of the proposed legislation which read:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
       (a) person commits the crime of harassment in the                                                                        
        second degree if, with intent to harass or annoy                                                                        
     another person, that person                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  STRASBAUGH pointed  out there  are  two differences  between                                                               
existing statute  and the proposed statute:  The first difference                                                               
is the  intent to "annoy" rather  than the intent to  injure, and                                                               
the  second is  the threat  of "physical  injury," not  "imminent                                                               
physical injury."  She stated  that the second difference relates                                                               
to the fact  that imminent does not apply  to electronic bullying                                                               
because the  words or other  conduct does  not take place  in the                                                               
presence of a person.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:12:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  STRASBAUGH,  in  response  to  Chair  Keller  regarding  his                                                               
suggestion to  remove "causes severe  mental or  emotional injury                                                               
or"  said that  is a  policy choice.   As  to whether  the change                                                               
would  cause difficulties  for the  prosecution, she  deferred to                                                               
DOL.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:12:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG, after  being  told  by Ms.  Strasbaugh                                                               
that the existing  statute covering assault in  the fourth degree                                                               
is AS  11.41.230, noted that  assault in  the fourth degree  is a                                                               
class A  misdemeanor, and second  degree harassment is a  class B                                                               
misdemeanor,  which is  up  to  90 days  in  jail.   He  directed                                                               
attention to page 2, lines 3-5 which read:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     (7)  repeatedly   sends  or  publishes   an  electronic                                                                    
     communication  that  insults,  taunts,  challenges,  or                                                                    
     intimidates a person under 18  years of age in a manner                                                                    
     that places  the person in reasonable  fear of physical                                                                    
     injury.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  asked whether each  communication would                                                               
be a separate  offense or "if you're sending  a communication, or                                                               
publish it, you must do it repeatedly."                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. STRASBAUGH said  she was hesitant to make an  assertion as to                                                               
how each case would be handled.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:14:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  informed  the committee  the  Rule  of                                                               
Lenity directs that if a statute  can be interpreted two ways and                                                               
in a criminal  case the court will interpret the  law in the most                                                               
lenient  way from  the defendant's  point of  view.   He gave  an                                                               
example in which 50 calls were interpreted as one offense.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. STRASBAUGH  surmised a series  of taunts or insults  would be                                                               
taken to authorities  when it reached "the pain  threshold."  She                                                               
encouraged the  committee to  ask the  prosecuting agency  how it                                                               
would prosecute the posited case.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. MORLEDGE pointed out on page  1, line 10, the word "repeated"                                                               
is currently  used for  telephone calls and  thus was  the source                                                               
for  the  new  language,  "repeated   sending  of  an  electronic                                                               
message."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:17:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN  questioned the  use of  "inconvenient hours"                                                               
on page  1, line 10.   He observed that  some of the  language in                                                               
the bill is "very, very, vague."                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. MORLEDGE restated her point  that the aforementioned language                                                               
is  from  the  existing  statute and  the  proposed  bill  simply                                                               
inserts electronic communication and using consistent language.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG referred  to occupations  which require                                                               
workers  to have  "thick  skin."   He asked  whether  there is  a                                                               
definition in the Alaska Statutes  of "severe mental or emotional                                                               
...."                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:21:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RICHARD  SVOBODNY,  Deputy   Attorney  General,  Central  Office,                                                               
Criminal  Division,  Department  of   Law,  stated  it  would  be                                                               
difficult  to  prove  the  language  removed  by  Chair  Keller's                                                               
proposed  amendment  [text  provided  above].   He  said  if  the                                                               
language stays  in, the answer  is up to  the jury.   In criminal                                                               
law  definitions, there  is  no definition  of  the terms  severe                                                               
mental or emotional  injury to help the jury; in  fact, the court                                                               
will tell  the jury "use  ... your ordinary understanding  of the                                                               
language."   Mr. Svobodny said  this would probably  cause debate                                                               
in the jury room.  This  type of question, along with the meaning                                                               
of "repeated" would be  up to the jury.  He gave  an example of a                                                               
previous  ruling  establishing  that  three  threats  of  serious                                                               
physical  injury to  a  person satisfied  the  term "repeated"  -                                                               
which is used in the crime of assault  in the third degree - as a                                                               
matter  of law.   In  response to  Representative Gruenberg,  Mr.                                                               
Svobodny said the  offense of terroristic threatening  is still a                                                               
law, but the  language has been changed and  the repeated threats                                                               
to cause  serious physical injury  have been moved to  assault in                                                               
the third degree.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX stated one  of her concerns about including                                                               
the  language  "causes severe  mental  or  emotional injury,"  is                                                               
regarding  the  "eggshell" plaintiff.    Some  actions that  most                                                               
people  would  tolerate  may  cause   injury  to  those  who  are                                                               
emotionally  or mentally  fragile.   She said  this situation  is                                                               
common in  tort cases and courts  have ruled that a  defendant is                                                               
liable for an eggshell plaintiff.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:25:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SVOBODNY  said the  position of  DOL is  that if  a defendant                                                               
injures  a victim  with a  disease,  their injury  could lead  to                                                               
charges  of more  serious assault;  this  is a  position that  is                                                               
consistent  with other  provisions of  law, that  "you take  your                                                               
victim as you find them."                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  cautioned that  the "causes  severe mental                                                               
or emotional injury" section is  troublesome because there should                                                               
not be a  prior restraint on the freedom of  speech, and she said                                                               
she supported the removal of this language.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:27:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN  moved to adopt the  proposed House committee                                                               
substitute   (HCS)  for   CSSB  128(JUD),   Version  28-LS1001\H,                                                               
Strasbaugh, 4/12/14,  as the  working document.   There  being no                                                               
objection, Version H was before the committee.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG stated he was  not waiving any rights to                                                               
offer an amendment.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:28:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KELLER, after  ascertaining  that no  one  else wished  to                                                               
testify, closed public testimony.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  commented that  many terms in  the bill                                                               
are construed  according to  "common ordinary  usage."   He urged                                                               
for the  committee to review  related court decisions  and warned                                                               
that more information on definitions is needed.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:29:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER reopened public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG pointed out  the use of "repeatedly" and                                                               
"repeated"  in the  new and  existing language  of the  bill, and                                                               
asked how courts interpret the term.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:30:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
QUINLAN  STEINER,  Director,   Central  Office,  Public  Defender                                                               
Agency,  was unsure  of the  definitive answer  to Representative                                                               
Gruenberg's  question;  however,  he expressed  his  belief  that                                                               
repeated is "more than once."                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GRUENBERG  requested   further  testimony   from                                                               
agencies on this point.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER  said his  hope is  that the  committee will  make a                                                               
decision on the bill at this hearing.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:31:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER again closed public testimony.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:32:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN moved  to report the proposed  HCS for [CSSB]                                                               
128(JUD),  Version  28-LS1001\H,   Strasbaugh,  4/12/14,  out  of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal notes.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:32:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRUITT objected.  Although  he said he agreed with                                                               
the  motion,  he questioned  whether  a  class B  misdemeanor  is                                                               
appropriate  in the  case of  an  adult who  intimidates a  young                                                               
child.  He then removed his objection.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG inquired  as  to  whether the  proposed                                                               
bill is void for vagueness.   One prosecutor may decide to divide                                                               
ten  calls into  two  counts and  another may  not;  the bill  is                                                               
silent on this  matter, and he asked Mr. Svobodny  if DOL has any                                                               
charging guidelines related to the bill.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. SVOBODNY said  DOL does not have guidelines on  the number of                                                               
calls  that  are needed  to  establish  "repeated."   This  issue                                                               
arises  across  all  criminal cases  and  charges  are  sometimes                                                               
determined by,  for example, the  number of pills, or  the number                                                               
of bad checks.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  observed that the  existing legislation                                                               
has not been struck down.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRUITT further  asked  whether  DOL is  confident                                                               
that the proposed legislation can be enforced.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. SVOBODNY said he is very comfortable with the bill.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRUITT restated that he removed his objection.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:38:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There being no further objection,  HCS CSSB 128(JUD) was reported                                                               
from the House Judiciary Standing Committee.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
           SB 170-AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE TO PROSTITUTION                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:39:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER announced  that the next order of  business would be                                                               
SENATE BILL NO.  170, "An Act relating to a  defense to the crime                                                               
of prostitution for victims of sex trafficking."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:39:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BERTA  GARDNER, Alaska State Legislator,  speaking as the                                                               
prime sponsor  informed the committee  that SB  170 is part  of a                                                               
national effort  to provide as  a defense against  a prostitution                                                               
charge, the chance to demonstrate  to the prosecutor that one has                                                               
been  "trafficked" and  forced  into  prostitution against  their                                                               
will.   The  bill also  allows  the prosecutor  to prosecute  the                                                               
traffickers.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:40:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STEVEN  HANDY,   Staff,  Senator  Berta  Gardner,   Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, in response  to Representative Lynn, said  a pimp is                                                               
one who  traffics the  prostitute and is  actually the  target of                                                               
the bill.   The purpose is  to not "double victimize"  the person                                                               
who  is  being  trafficked,  first  by  the  situation  and  also                                                               
arrested for prostitution.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN noted that those  prostituting do so for many                                                               
different  reasons, and  pimps may  be coercive,  cooperative, or                                                               
violent.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. HANDY said  if the prostitute - hereafter referred  to as the                                                               
sex traffic  victim - evokes  the affirmative  defense authorized                                                               
by the  bill, the sex  traffic victim  is obligated to  work with                                                               
the  prosecutor   and  law  enforcement   to  identify   the  sex                                                               
trafficker.    The affirmative  defense  would  not get  the  sex                                                               
traffic victim "off  the hook" as the  decision regarding charges                                                               
against the  sex traffic victim occurs  in court, and not  in the                                                               
field.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRUITT  stated that  prostitution takes  place for                                                               
several  different reasons,  and  questioned how  the bill  would                                                               
only apply  to those who are  sex traffic victims.   He said, "If                                                               
there's  an individual  that's in  that, they're  just trying  to                                                               
make money ... it's a different scenario ...."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. HANDY  explained the prosecution would  determine whether the                                                               
affirmative defense is valid.   The sex traffic victim evoking an                                                               
affirmative defense  would have  to identify the  sex trafficker,                                                               
and there would follow an investigation by law enforcement.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:45:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRUITT asked  for  clarification  on whether  any                                                               
instance  of prostitution  would garner  an affirmative  defense,                                                               
which is the "lowest level of  challenge ... on a conviction from                                                               
prosecution to address."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. HANDY  said, "That's  a definite  no, it  would not  apply to                                                               
somebody who was doing this because that's their choice."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX pointed  out that  a prosecutor  in a  sex                                                               
trafficking case can choose whether  or not to prosecute someone;                                                               
therefore, an affirmative defense  leaves the decision ultimately                                                               
up to a jury.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HANDY  explained  that  the  definition  of  an  affirmative                                                               
defense is that there are  situations outside of the charges that                                                               
could  excuse the  defendant  from the  charges.   The  situation                                                               
arises  after  a   person  is  arrested  and   charged,  and  the                                                               
affirmative defense is a tool to get out of the charge.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:48:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER opened public testimony.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:48:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SARALYN  TABACHNICK, Executive  Director, Aiding  Women in  Abuse                                                               
and Rape  Emergencies, Inc. (AWARE), informed  the committee that                                                               
often  women who  are  involved in  prostitution  are victims  of                                                               
domestic violence and  sexual assault who have  been coerced into                                                               
sex trafficking.   Senate Bill 170 creates an  avenue for victims                                                               
to come forward, to be believed, and treated with respect.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:49:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TARA RUPANI, Member, Community United  for Safety and Protection,                                                               
representing  herself, said  she  is a  graduate  student at  the                                                               
University of  Alaska Fairbanks  (UAF).   Ms. Rupani  stated that                                                               
her research  into sex trafficking  legislation [House  Bill 359]                                                               
[passed] in 2012, has only  been used against alleged prostitutes                                                               
who  were  charged  with  prostitution  in  connection  with  sex                                                               
trafficking cases.   For example, in a case  with sex trafficking                                                               
victims,   the  victims   were   arrested   and  prosecuted   for                                                               
prostitution,  and  during  2012  or 2013,  all  those  who  were                                                               
charged  in  Alaska  under  state  law  were  also  charged  with                                                               
trafficking.  Ms. Rupani said  she was disappointed to learn that                                                               
the proposed  legislation would not  help any of the  victims who                                                               
have  been charged  under state  law, including  Keyana Marshall,                                                               
who  was charged  with  federal counts  of  sex trafficking,  and                                                               
would  not  have  been  able to  access  an  affirmative  defense                                                               
because  multiple sex  traffickers were  involved.   Furthermore,                                                               
the bill  is not intended to  help those who have  ever willingly                                                               
engaged  in the  sex industry,  but only  those who  were induced                                                               
into  prostitution, which  creates a  fourth legal  definition of                                                               
sex trafficking  and a distinction  between some victims  who are                                                               
deserving of  protection, and  others who are  not; in  fact, all                                                               
sex  trafficking   victims  in  Alaska  should   have  access  to                                                               
protection  without  being  arrested.   Ms.  Rupani  opined  that                                                               
allowing victims of  sex trafficking access to  protection is the                                                               
first step to putting sex  traffickers in jail, however, "if only                                                               
good victims can call the police  it's actually going to make sex                                                               
trafficking worse.... ... [Because]  they target people that they                                                               
know  who ...  already believe  that  they don't  have access  to                                                               
protection  from the  police."   She stated  that those  who have                                                               
worked in the  sex industry should be able  to access protection.                                                               
She referred to "safe harbor"  laws that have been implemented in                                                               
California and New York, and  stressed that criminalizing victims                                                               
is  a huge  human rights  issue that  has been  addressed by  the                                                               
United  Nations.    Ms.  Rupani said  arresting  victims  of  sex                                                               
trafficking violates the Trafficking  Victims Protection Act, and                                                               
the proposed bill is not the  solution to the situation in Alaska                                                               
where law enforcement continues to  defend its decision to arrest                                                               
and charge sex  trafficking victims.  She concluded  that, "A law                                                               
that condemns  most victims  while purporting  to protect  only a                                                               
few victims who  are seen as worthy or good  is going to increase                                                               
sex trafficking rather than decrease it in Alaska."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:55:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX asked whether Ms. Rupani's position is                                                                    
that any prostitute is coerced into prostitution and should not                                                                 
be prosecuted.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUPANI said absolutely not.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:55:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KAYT SUNWOOD, read Keyana Marshall's statement as follows:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The trauma  of being forced, coerced  into prostitution                                                                    
     is  a  scary shameful  situation.    This can  leave  a                                                                    
     victim emotionally,  mentally, and  physically scarred.                                                                    
     To criminalize  a victim  is extremely  cruel, however,                                                                    
     with   no    protective   laws   in   place.       Such                                                                    
     criminalization  and  punishment  is of  unethical  and                                                                    
     immoral proportions.  I am  familiar with this scenario                                                                    
     because it happened  to me.  It wounded  me deeply when                                                                    
     members of  the APD  vice unit  ridiculed me  for being                                                                    
     pimped.    As they  arrested  me  and  placed me  in  a                                                                    
     vehicle, they  said something  to the  effect of:   Our                                                                    
     car  isn't  as nice  as  the  Mercedes Benz  your  pimp                                                                    
     drives.  Or  things like:  I know he  wonders where you                                                                    
     are, or,  Get back to him.   I was a  human trafficking                                                                    
     victim  from  ages 15  through  21.    I have  had  two                                                                    
     abusers  take advantage  of me.   I  am now  stuck with                                                                    
     mental memories  of their abusive  actions and  if that                                                                    
     didn't make  me feel like I  had just no say  in my own                                                                    
     actions,  prison   did.    Being  a   victim  of  abuse                                                                    
     shouldn't be a crime.   Anyone who is being forced into                                                                    
     any prostitution-related activities  should not be held                                                                    
     liable   for   crimes   committed   in   reference   to                                                                    
     prostitution    or   conspiracy,    charges   involving                                                                    
     prostitution.   When  we define  the word  "victim" the                                                                    
     definitions  are:    (1)   an  unfortunate  person  who                                                                    
     suffers from  some adverse  circumstance; (2)  a person                                                                    
     who  is  tricked or  swindled.    Unfortunately, I  can                                                                    
     easily  apply  these  definitions  to myself.    I  was                                                                    
     trafficked  by a  woman  whom I  used  to babysit  for.                                                                    
     When  she  disappeared and  went  to  prison, the  next                                                                    
     perpetrator was  an abusive, angry, violent,  male.  He                                                                    
     tore  down  my   spirit  and  I  went   to  prison  for                                                                    
     prostitution.  These incidents  would have not happened                                                                    
     had I not been trafficked,  drugged, and abused by this                                                                    
     man.   I  spent nearly  three years  in prison  after I                                                                    
     agreed to  turn state's  evidence.   I did  that hoping                                                                    
     someone would  identify the problem.   Instead  I heard                                                                    
     things like:   Crazy,  or Sorry  that happened  to you.                                                                    
     No  victims' services  were  offered to  me.   I  think                                                                    
     passing  a bill  where  victims  are protected,  rather                                                                    
     than  criminalized  and re-victimized,  is  desperately                                                                    
     needed.    Please  make  sure  SB  170  truly  protects                                                                    
     victims,  rather   than  setting  up   good  victim/bad                                                                    
     victim, and criminalizing some.   As is this bill falls                                                                    
     short.   If  the  intent  of this  bill  is to  address                                                                    
     trafficking,  make  it  safe  for  those  who  are  sex                                                                    
     trafficked, to help end sex trafficking.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:59:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JON DUKE, Professor, Department  of Justice, University of Alaska                                                               
Fairbanks,  informed the  committee  he was  a  retired chief  of                                                               
police from California and a  consultant to Senator Gardner on SB                                                               
170.  Mr. Duke urged the  committee to support SB 170 for several                                                               
reasons.  The  bill changes the way justice  is delivered without                                                               
weakening  tools  to control  vice.    Justice professionals  are                                                               
bound to  enforce the law,  and even  when aware that  victims of                                                               
sex trafficking are often forced to  break the law, agents of the                                                               
state may not  be able to exercise leniency.   Proposed SB 170 is                                                               
needed  to enrich  justice by  increasing the  options available.                                                               
In  addition, SB  170 would  raise awareness,  reduce stigma  and                                                               
self-recrimination,  reduce victims'  shame, and  empower victims                                                               
to ask  for help  to escape their  plight, and  utilize community                                                               
resources  to   heal.    Ultimately,   victims  will   feel  more                                                               
comfortable  cooperating with  police  to prosecute  traffickers.                                                               
Mr. Duke urged the committee to support SB 170.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:02:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MAXINE   DOOGAN,  Member,   Community  United   for  Safety   and                                                               
Protection,  informed  the  committee the  Community  United  for                                                               
Safety  and Protection  is a  group of  sex trafficking  victims,                                                               
current  and retired  sex workers,  and their  allies in  Alaska.                                                               
She  said  she  was  born   and  raised  in  Fairbanks,  and  her                                                               
organization opposes SB [170] because  it is overbroad in that it                                                               
puts the burden of proof on the  victim who is the defendant in a                                                               
criminal  proceeding.    The  bill also  creates  a  loophole  of                                                               
arbitrary enforcement  which allows  the prosecutor  to reinstate                                                               
charges  against   the  sex  trafficking  victim   following  the                                                               
unsuccessful  prosecution of  sex traffickers.   In  addition, SB                                                               
170 does not  offer immunity from prosecution,  and she cautioned                                                               
that  there   may  be  the   unintended  consequences   of  false                                                               
accusations.    Ms.  Doogan  said   prostitution  should  not  be                                                               
illegal, and the bill does not  provide a way for sex trafficking                                                               
victims to have their convictions  vacated.  Finally, SB 170 does                                                               
not provide  any identity protection for  sex trafficking victims                                                               
who are  being prosecuted  for prostitution.   She urged  for the                                                               
removal  of  the  criminalization  of prostitution  in  order  to                                                               
provide access  to equal  protection under  the law,  and thereby                                                               
reduce incidents of exploitation in  Alaska.  Ms. Doogan said she                                                               
opposes SB 170.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:05:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KELLER, after  ascertaining  that no  one  else wished  to                                                               
testify, closed public testimony.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  asked  Mr. Svobodny  to  describe  the                                                               
quantity  of  proof  required  from   a  defendant  to  prove  an                                                               
affirmative defense in a criminal case.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:06:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RICHARD  SVOBODNY,  Deputy   Attorney  General,  Central  Office,                                                               
Criminal  Division,   Department  of   Law,  recalled   that  the                                                               
requirement is a preponderance of  evidence, and is not "beyond a                                                               
reasonable doubt."  He said  he would confirm his recollection as                                                               
soon as possible.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  cautioned that  the bill is  written so                                                               
that the  burden of proof  will shift  to the defendant  to prove                                                               
that  they are  a sex  trafficking victim  by a  preponderance of                                                               
evidence -  or a level  higher -  which would be  very difficult.                                                               
He  encouraged  the sponsor  to  consider  that  that may  be  an                                                               
insurmountable burden in many cases.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRUITT agreed  that the defendants would  be "in a                                                               
very difficult  spot," and  may already  have concerns  that they                                                               
cannot trust  the police or the  authorities.  He said  he agreed                                                               
with the intent of the legislation,  but the bill may put more of                                                               
a burden on the victims.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX disagreed.   She suggested that the sponsor                                                               
and DOL consider  adding an element of proof  that the prosecutor                                                               
needs to prove beyond a  reasonable doubt that the defendants are                                                               
not sex trafficking victims.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG reminded the  committee of a previously-                                                               
heard bill  related to  an affirmative defense  for the  crime of                                                               
someone  who  encounters  a  victim  of a  drug  overdose.    The                                                               
language used in that bill was  that the defendant had to produce                                                               
some  evidence,  and the  prosecutor  had  to disprove  beyond  a                                                               
reasonable doubt.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SVOBODNY interjected  that  it is  a  "preponderance of  the                                                               
evidence."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[SB 170 was held over.]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
         HB 370-AWCB CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE PRESCRIPTIONS                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:10:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER  returned the committee's  attention to  the further                                                               
discussion of HB 370.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
[Before the committee was CSHB 370(L&C).]                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
KONRAD JACKSON,  staff, Representative  Kurt Olson,  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, speaking  on behalf  of Representative  Olson, chair                                                               
of the House  Labor & Commerce Standing  Committee, sponsor, said                                                               
at  the request  of the  committee,  he contacted  the Office  of                                                               
Public   Advocacy,  Department   of  Administration,   to  answer                                                               
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:11:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RICHARD ALLEN,  Director, Office  of Public  Advocacy, Department                                                               
of Administration, offered to answer questions.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. JACKSON  recalled that  Representative Gruenberg  asked about                                                               
"fruit   of  the   poison  tree"   and   the  possible   criminal                                                               
implications of  the drug  testing described in  section 1  of HB                                                               
370.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG   asked  whether  there   are  criminal                                                               
implications within the language of HB 370.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. ALLEN answered that  it is "a real stretch to  try to come up                                                               
with any sort  of scenario where this would play  out."  There is                                                               
the  possibility that  if a  person who  had tested  negative was                                                               
later  charged with  the  distribution of  a  narcotic, the  test                                                               
might be used as some sort of circumstantial evidence.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:14:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER closed public testimony on HB 370.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:14:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN  moved  to   report  CSHB  370(L&C)  out  of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal  notes.   There  being  no  objection, CSHB  370(L&C)  was                                                               
reported from the House Judiciary Standing Committee.                                                                           
4:14:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There followed a short discussion of forthcoming meetings.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:16:22 PM                                                                                                                    
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Judiciary Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 4:16 p.m.