ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                       February 25, 2013                                                                                        
                           2:04 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wes Keller, Chair                                                                                                
Representative Bob Lynn, Vice Chair                                                                                             
Representative Neal Foster                                                                                                      
Representative Gabrielle LeDoux                                                                                                 
Representative Lance Pruitt                                                                                                     
Representative Max Gruenberg                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Charisse Millett                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 63                                                                                                               
"An Act extending the termination  date of the Board of Governors                                                               
of the  Alaska Bar  Association; and  providing for  an effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HB 63 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 34                                                                                                               
"An Act making  state compliance with a  federal law, regulation,                                                               
or presidential executive order  contingent on receipt of certain                                                               
information from the federal government."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 83                                                                                                               
"An  Act  relating  to  certain  federal  statutes,  regulations,                                                               
presidential executive  orders, and secretarial  orders; relating                                                               
to  the duties  of the  attorney  general; and  providing for  an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - SCHEDULED BUT NOT HEARD                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 73                                                                                                               
"An Act  relating to the  commencement of actions for  felony sex                                                               
trafficking and  felony human trafficking; relating  to the crime                                                               
of sexual  assault; relating  to the  crime of  unlawful contact;                                                               
relating   to    forfeiture   for   certain    crimes   involving                                                               
prostitution; relating to  the time in which  to commence certain                                                               
prosecutions; relating  to release  for violation of  a condition                                                               
of  release  in  connection  with   a  crime  involving  domestic                                                               
violence; relating to interception  of private communications for                                                               
certain sex  trafficking or human trafficking  offenses; relating                                                               
to  use  of evidence  of  sexual  conduct concerning  victims  of                                                               
certain crimes;  relating to procedures for  granting immunity to                                                               
a witness in a criminal  proceeding; relating to consideration at                                                               
sentencing of  the effect of a  crime on the victim;  relating to                                                               
the time  to make an  application for  credit for time  served in                                                               
detention  in a  treatment  program or  while  in other  custody;                                                               
relating   to  suspending   imposition   of   sentence  for   sex                                                               
trafficking;  relating to  consecutive sentences  for convictions                                                               
of  certain  crimes  involving   child  pornography  or  indecent                                                               
materials to minors; relating to  the referral of sexual felonies                                                               
to a  three-judge panel;  relating to  the definition  of 'sexual                                                               
felony' for  sentencing and probation  for conviction  of certain                                                               
crimes;  relating to  the definition  of "sex  offense" regarding                                                               
sex  offender registration;  relating  to  protective orders  for                                                               
stalking and  sexual assault and  for a crime  involving domestic                                                               
violence;  relating  to  the  definition  of  'victim  counseling                                                               
centers'  for  disclosure  of certain  communications  concerning                                                               
sexual assault  or domestic violence; relating  to violent crimes                                                               
compensation;  relating  to   certain  information  in  retention                                                               
election of judges concerning sentencing  of persons convicted of                                                               
felonies; relating  to remission of sentences  for certain sexual                                                               
felony offenders; relating to the  subpoena power of the attorney                                                               
general  in  cases  involving  the use  of  an  Internet  service                                                               
account; relating  to reasonable efforts  in child-in-need-of-aid                                                               
cases  involving  sexual  abuse  or  sex  offender  registration;                                                               
relating  to mandatory  reporting  by athletic  coaches of  child                                                               
abuse or  neglect; making  conforming amendments;  amending Rules                                                               
16, 32.1(b)(1), and 32.2(a), Alaska  Rules of Criminal Procedure,                                                               
Rule  404(b), Alaska  Rules  of Evidence,  and  Rule 216,  Alaska                                                               
Rules  of Appellate  Procedure;  and providing  for an  effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     - SCHEDULED BUT NOT HEARD                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 63                                                                                                                   
SHORT TITLE: EXTEND BAR ASS'N BOARD OF GOVERNORS                                                                                
SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) HAWKER                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
01/16/13       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/16/13       (H)       JUD, FIN                                                                                               
02/25/13       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 34                                                                                                                   
SHORT TITLE: FEDERAL LAWS, REGULATIONS & EXEC. ORDERS                                                                           
SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) T.WILSON                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
01/16/13       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/7/13                                                                                
01/16/13       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/16/13       (H)       JUD                                                                                                    
02/25/13       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MIKE HAWKER                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Sponsor of HB 63.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HANNA SEBOLD, President                                                                                                         
Board of Governors                                                                                                              
Alaska Bar Association (ABA)                                                                                                    
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Responded to a question during discussion                                                                
of HB 63.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
STEPHEN J. VAN GOOR, Bar Counsel                                                                                                
Alaska Bar Association (ABA)                                                                                                    
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Responded to questions during discussion of                                                              
HB 63.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
THOMAS S. OBERMEYER, SR., Attorney at Law                                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Asked that HB 63 not be passed, thereby                                                                  
allowing the Board of Governors of the Alaska Bar Association                                                                   
(ABA) to sunset.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TAMMIE WILSON                                                                                                    
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Sponsor of HB 34.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MIKE COONS                                                                                                                      
Palmer, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Expressed support for the intent of HB 34,                                                               
recommended changes to the bill, and urged the bill's passage.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:04:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WES  KELLER called the  House Judiciary  Standing Committee                                                             
meeting  to order  at 2:04  p.m.   Representatives Keller,  Lynn,                                                               
Gruenberg,  and  Foster  were  present  at  the  call  to  order.                                                               
Representatives LeDoux and  Pruitt arrived as the  meeting was in                                                               
progress.  Representative Millett was excused.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          HB 63 - EXTEND BAR ASS'N BOARD OF GOVERNORS                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:05:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER announced that the  first order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO. 63, "An Act  extending the termination date of the                                                               
Board of Governors  of the Alaska Bar  Association; and providing                                                               
for an effective date."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:05:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MIKE HAWKER,  Alaska State  Legislature, sponsor,                                                               
explained that  HB 63  would extend the  termination date  of the                                                               
Board  of   Governors  of  the  Alaska   Bar  Association  (ABA),                                                               
currently scheduled to terminate June  30, 2013.  The Division of                                                               
Legislative  Audit, having  concluded an  audit of  the Board  of                                                               
Governors of  the ABA and  determined that it's operating  in the                                                               
public's  interest   and  has  complied   with  its   duties  and                                                               
responsibilities to  the public, recommends that  the termination                                                               
date  be extended  to  June  30, 2021.    He  mentioned that  the                                                               
Division  of  Legislative Audit  [has  also  determined that  the                                                               
Board of Governors  should again recommend to  the Alaska Supreme                                                               
Court that it  amend the Alaska Bar Rules so  as to] increase the                                                               
number  of continuing  legal education  (CLE)  credit hours  that                                                               
each ABA member be mandated to complete.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  disclosed that  he is  a member  of the                                                               
ABA, and,  remarking on the  importance of mandatory CLE  for ABA                                                               
members, questioned  whether something should  be added to  HB 63                                                               
regarding that recommendation.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAWKER expressed  a  preference  for attaching  a                                                               
letter of intent, rather than amending the bill.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG relayed that  he would draft that letter                                                               
of intent.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:13:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HANNA  SEBOLD,   President,  Board   of  Governors,   Alaska  Bar                                                               
Association  (ABA),  in  response  to comments  and  a  question,                                                               
indicated that the Board of  Governors is willing to discuss with                                                               
the Alaska  Supreme Court the  issue of increasing the  number of                                                               
mandatory CLE credit hours for ABA members.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:14:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STEPHEN J. VAN  GOOR, Bar Counsel, Alaska  Bar Association (ABA),                                                               
indicated that such discussion would be occurring soon.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:17:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
THOMAS  S. OBERMEYER,  SR.,  Attorney  at Law  -  referring to  a                                                               
letter   he'd  written,   included  in   members'  packets,   and                                                               
mentioning  that he's  licensed  to practice  law  in Missouri  -                                                               
offered his  beliefs that there  are many problems with  the ABA,                                                               
including a  lack of uniform  discipline and  low bar-examination                                                               
passage  rates,  that   Alaska's  bar-examination  passage  rates                                                               
should  be increased,  and that  Alaska's  current passage  rates                                                               
have been kept  low on purpose through manipulation.   He opined,                                                               
therefore, that HB 63 should  not be passed, thereby allowing the                                                               
Board of  Governors of the  Alaska Bar Association  to terminate,                                                               
in  turn  providing an  opportunity  to  reevaluate Alaska's  bar                                                               
examination.    He  also  indicated,   though,  that  he  has  no                                                               
objection to increasing  mandatory CLE.  In  conclusion, he said,                                                               
"I  don't  think this  should  be  just another  rubberstamp  ...                                                               
passage ... of a sunset date."                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. VAN GOOR,  in response to comments and  a question, indicated                                                               
that the Board  of Governors of the ABA  is currently researching                                                               
the issue of a uniform bar examination.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER,  ascertaining that no  one else wished  to testify,                                                               
closed  public  testimony on  HB  63,  and  pointed out  that  as                                                               
currently  written, the  bill would  only extend  the termination                                                               
date of the Board of Governors of the Alaska Bar Association.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:28:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN moved  to report HB 63 out  of committee with                                                               
individual  recommendations and  the  accompanying fiscal  notes.                                                               
There  being no  objection, HB  63  was reported  from the  House                                                               
Judiciary  Standing  Committee.    [Note  to  the  reader:    the                                                               
aforementioned  letter of  intent for  HB 63  was adopted  by the                                                               
committee on 2/27/13.]                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
        HB 34 - FEDERAL LAWS, REGULATIONS & EXEC. ORDERS                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:29:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER announced that the  final order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL  NO. 34,  "An  Act  making  state compliance  with  a                                                               
federal   law,  regulation,   or  presidential   executive  order                                                               
contingent  on receipt  of certain  information from  the federal                                                               
government."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:29:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN  moved  to   adopt  the  proposed  committee                                                               
substitute (CS) for HB 34,  Version 28-LS0195\C, Nauman, 1/30/13,                                                               
as the  working document.   There being  no objection,  Version C                                                               
was before the committee.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:30:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TAMMIE WILSON,  Alaska State Legislature, sponsor,                                                               
explained that the  original version of HB 34  would preclude the                                                               
state from complying  with a federal law,  federal regulation, or                                                               
presidential  executive   order  until  the   federal  government                                                               
provides a  written description telling  the state how  to comply                                                               
with,  and the  economic effect  on each  community of  complying                                                               
with,  the  federal  law,  federal  regulation,  or  presidential                                                               
executive order.  Version C of  HB 34, in contrast, precludes the                                                               
state from complying  with a federal law,  federal regulation, or                                                               
presidential executive  order until  the state requests  from the                                                               
federal government  a written description of  the economic effect                                                               
-  on the  state and  on each  community [and  on industry]  - of                                                               
complying   with  the   federal  law,   federal  regulation,   or                                                               
presidential  executive  order;  and  precludes  the  state  from                                                               
accepting  any  associated  federal   funding  until  either  the                                                               
federal   government  or   the   state   provides  that   written                                                               
description.   She  indicated that  the drafter  recommended this                                                               
change in  approach, and mentioned that  members' packets contain                                                               
examples, as  well as an  indeterminate fiscal note  submitted by                                                               
the  Office of  Management &  Budget (OMB).   In  conclusion, she                                                               
said, "I  believe every time we  take any money from  the federal                                                               
government, we should know what  strings are attached and ... how                                                               
it's going to affect the communities that we all live in."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KELLER noted  that language  on  page 2,  lines [4-7],  of                                                               
Version  C  stipulates   that  the  state  may   not  accept  the                                                               
associated  federal  funding  until  the  aforementioned  written                                                               
description is transmitted to the legislature.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE T. WILSON relayed that  under Version C, the state                                                               
would   request  the   written  description   from  the   federal                                                               
government, but  if the  federal government  does not  provide it                                                               
within 90 days,  then the state would provide it  and transmit it                                                               
to  the legislature.   She  mentioned  that under  the bill,  the                                                               
legislature  would  not  be determining  whether  to  accept  the                                                               
associated  federal  funding;   instead,  the  legislature  would                                                               
simply  be  informed  before   the  administration  accepts  such                                                               
funding.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 2:37 p.m. to 2:39 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE T.  WILSON, in response  to a  question, indicated                                                               
that  a new  fiscal  note  from the  OMB  reflecting the  changes                                                               
incorporated in Version C would be forthcoming.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:40:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE  COONS,  mentioning  that he'd  provided  written  testimony                                                               
regarding the  original version  of HB 34,  said he  supports the                                                               
intent of the  bill though he believes that the  bill itself does                                                               
not yet go far  enough.  He suggested that Version C  of HB 34 be                                                               
changed:    such that  rather  than  merely requesting  from  the                                                               
federal government  a written description of  the economic effect                                                               
of  the   federal  law,   federal  regulation,   or  presidential                                                               
executive  order,  that the  state  instead  demand that  written                                                               
description from  the federal government; such  that that written                                                               
description  include information  about the  constitutionality of                                                               
the federal  law, federal  regulation, or  presidential executive                                                               
order;  and  such  that  it  require  the  federal  law,  federal                                                               
regulation, or  presidential executive  order to be  fully funded                                                               
by  the  federal government.    In  conclusion, Mr.  Coons  urged                                                               
passage of HB 34.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  T. WILSON  offered  her  understanding that  such                                                               
changes would violate the constitution.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Due to teleconference-equipment  malfunctions, the committee took                                                               
an at-ease from 2:45 p.m. to 2:55 p.m.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE T.  WILSON, in closing,  relayed that HB  34 would                                                               
ensure that [the  legislature] is kept apprised  of the potential                                                               
economic effects of federal laws, federal regulations, and                                                                      
presidential executive orders, and reiterated that a new fiscal                                                                 
note from the OMB would be forthcoming.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER relayed that HB 34 [Version C] would be held over.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:56:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Judiciary Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 2:56 p.m.