ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         April 10, 2009                                                                                         
                           8:06 a.m.                                                                                            
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Paul Seaton, Chair                                                                                               
Representative Cathy Engstrom Munoz, Vice Chair                                                                                 
Representative Wes Keller                                                                                                       
Representative Peggy Wilson                                                                                                     
Representative Robert L. "Bob" Buch                                                                                             
Representative Berta Gardner                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bryce Edgmon                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
CONFIRMATION HEARINGS (S):                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     State Board of Education                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
          - Carol "Bunny" Schaeffer                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     University of Alaska Board of Regents                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
          - Ashton Compton                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 69                                                                                                               
"An Act  establishing in  the Department  of Education  and Early                                                               
Development a  voluntary parent  education home  visiting program                                                               
for  pre-elementary  aged  children; and  establishing  a  rating                                                               
system for early childhood education."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSHB 69(EDC) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 130                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to questionnaires and surveys administered in                                                                  
the public schools."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSHB 130(EDC) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 215                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to student counts for school funding purposes;                                                                 
and repealing school experience for salary scales provisions."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HB 215(EDC) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB  69                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: EARLY CHILDHOOD ED: RATING & HOME VISITS                                                                           
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) TUCK, PETERSEN, KAWASAKI, GARA                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
01/20/09       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/16/09                                                                               
01/20/09       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/20/09       (H)       EDC, FIN                                                                                               
02/11/09       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
02/11/09       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/11/09       (H)       MINUTE(EDC)                                                                                            
02/13/09       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
02/13/09       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/13/09       (H)       MINUTE(EDC)                                                                                            
04/10/09       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 130                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: STUDENT QUESTIONNAIRES AND SURVEYS                                                                                 
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) WILSON                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
02/13/09       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/13/09       (H)       EDC, HSS                                                                                               
04/06/09       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
04/06/09       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/06/09       (H)       MINUTE(EDC)                                                                                            
04/10/09       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 215                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: STUDENT COUNTS/TEACHERS' SALARIES                                                                                  
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) WILSON                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
04/03/09       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/03/09       (H)       EDC                                                                                                    
04/08/09       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
04/08/09       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/08/09       (H)       MINUTE(EDC)                                                                                            
04/10/09       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CAROL "BUNNY" SCHAEFFER, Appointee                                                                                              
State Board of Education                                                                                                        
Kotzebue, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified as appointee to the State Board                                                                
of Education.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ASHTON COMPTON, Appointee                                                                                                       
University of Alaska Board of Regents                                                                                           
Student Representative                                                                                                          
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified as appointee to the University of                                                              
Alaska Board of Regents.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CHRIS TUCK                                                                                                       
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented the CS for HB 69, as prime                                                                     
sponsor.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
EDDY JEANS, Director                                                                                                            
School Finance and Facilities Section                                                                                           
Department of Education and Early Development (EED)                                                                             
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  During the hearing on HB 69, responded to                                                                
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
JOY LYON, Representative                                                                                                        
Association for the Education of Young Children in SE Alaska                                                                    
Member, Juneau Drop-out Prevention & Drug Free Schools Advisory                                                                 
Board                                                                                                                           
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 69.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DEBBIE BALDWIN, Director                                                                                                        
Child Development Division                                                                                                      
RurAL Cap                                                                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 69.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CARL ROSE, Executive Director                                                                                                   
Association of Alaska School Boards (AASB)                                                                                      
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified with official support for HB 130.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:06:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PAUL  SEATON called the House  Education Standing Committee                                                             
meeting  to order  at 8:06  a.m.   Representatives Seaton,  Buch,                                                               
Keller, Gardner,  Munoz, and Wilson  were present at the  call to                                                               
order.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:07:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^CONFIRMATION HEARINGS (S):                                                                                                   
^State Board of Education                                                                                                     
^University of Alaska Board of Regents - Ashton Compton                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON announced that the  first order of business would be                                                               
the confirmation  hearings for the  State Board of  Education and                                                               
the University of Alaska Board of Regents.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:08:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CAROL  "BUNNY" SCHAEFFER,  Appointee, State  Board of  Education,                                                               
noted  her twenty  years  of service  with  the Northwest  Arctic                                                               
Borough  School   District,  in   Kotzebue,  Alaska.     Governor                                                               
Murkowski appointed her to the  State Board of Education in 2004,                                                               
the  seat  which  she  currently  holds.   Stating  that  she  is                                                               
interested  in continuing  her board  position,  she indicated  a                                                               
particular concern for  parent choice in education.   She availed                                                               
herself to committee questions.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:09:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER asked her to  elaborate on the term parent                                                               
choice, as defined by a school board member.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SCHAEFFER  named  the various  publicly  funded  educational                                                               
opportunities,  for parents  to choose  from, including  magnate,                                                               
charter, boarding, and  home schools, along with  the standard K-                                                               
12 system.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:09:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON   referred  to  the  drop-out   situation  and  the                                                               
relevancy of  current classroom  teaching styles.   He  asked for                                                               
her comments on these two topics.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHAEFFER stated that the  achievement gap between the Native                                                               
and Caucasian students  must be bridged; the  learning styles are                                                               
very  different.   Further,  she  said that  it  is important  to                                                               
provide  practical opportunities  in the  learning process.   The                                                               
large  class  size  can  be prohibitive  in  these  efforts,  she                                                               
opined.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   SEATON  mentioned   the  discreet   Native  skill   sets,                                                               
observation and auditory, and asked her to comment.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SCHAEFFER   responded  that  every  learning   technique  is                                                               
important to  understand and implement,  but it can  be difficult                                                               
to meet the cultural differences, she opined.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   SEATON   pointed  out   that   the   issue  of   cultural                                                               
disparateness has been brought to  the fore of the committee, and                                                               
he stressed the need to bring focus towards a solution.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:13:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WILSON suggested  that the  University of  Alaska                                                               
could   offer   a   class  to   specifically   address   learning                                                               
differences,  as  a  requirement  for earning  a  state  teaching                                                               
certificate.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHAEFFER pointed out that  multi cultural and Alaska studies                                                               
classes   are   required   to   attain   the   Alaskan   teaching                                                               
certification.   The original  intent of  these classes  may have                                                               
been to stem the Native cultural  divide, but that is not what is                                                               
being  taught.   These  are  distance  classes, and  may  require                                                               
refocusing.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:15:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MUNOZ agreed that  new teachers should be required                                                               
to have an understanding of  the cultural differences that are an                                                               
important aspect  of teaching in  Alaska.  She asked  whether the                                                               
candidate   would  support   a  requirement   for  cross-cultural                                                               
training.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHAEFFER  said that  this training  would be  appropriate at                                                               
the university  level.  However, for  a new teacher taking  it as                                                               
one of the  required certification classes it may be  prove to be                                                               
discouraging, considering all of the other compliance mandates.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:17:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON  explained that early  childhood education  has been                                                               
another  major topic  for  the committee,  and  he requested  her                                                               
comments and interest in this area.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SCHAEFFER  said  she  is an  advocate  for  early  childhood                                                               
education  and   stressed  the   importance  for   the  initially                                                               
engagement of students.   Parents are the  child's first teacher,                                                               
however many  parents do not  take up that  responsibility, which                                                               
places it on the  school.  When a parent will  not, or cannot, be                                                               
personally  responsive  to  their   young  child,  prior  to  the                                                               
required public  school attendance  at age  six, she  opined that                                                               
there  should  be  opportunities   for  pre-school;  private  and                                                               
public.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON  invited her  to contact  the committee,  during the                                                               
interim with any questions, concerns, or policy ideas.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:20:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MUNOZ   moved  to  advance  the   name  of  Carol                                                               
Schaeffer,  as appointee  to  the State  School  Board, from  the                                                               
House Education Standing Committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection, so ordered.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:21:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ASHTON  COMPTON,   Appointee,  University  of  Alaska   Board  of                                                               
Regents, Student Representative, introduced  herself and said she                                                               
is looking  forward to  taking an  active role  on the  board and                                                               
representing the student's interests.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:22:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WILSON  praised  the appointee's  willingness  to                                                               
serve, and wished her well.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GARDNER   congratulated    and   expressed   her                                                               
confidence in the nominee.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON  stated his interest  in meeting her when  the Board                                                               
of Regents visits the capital in the coming year.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:23:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MUNOZ  moved  to   advance  the  name  of  Ashton                                                               
Compton, as appointee  to the State School Board,  from the House                                                               
Education Standing Committee.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection, so ordered.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:23:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at ease from 8:23 to 8:25.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
HB  69-EARLY CHILDHOOD ED: RATING & HOME VISITS                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON announced  that the next order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL NO.  69, "An  Act establishing  in the  Department of                                                               
Education  and Early  Development  a  voluntary parent  education                                                               
home  visiting  program  for pre-elementary  aged  children;  and                                                               
establishing a rating system for early childhood education."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:25:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CHRIS TUCK, Alaska  State Legislature, thanked the                                                               
committee for taking up the bill.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:25:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WILSON moved  to adopt  Amendment 1,  labeled 26-                                                               
LS0281\C.2, Mischel, 4/7/09, which read:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 29, following "shall":                                                                                        
          Insert new material to read:                                                                                          
               "(1)  apply for and maximize federal and                                                                         
         private funding sources to support the program                                                                         
     established under this section;                                                                                            
               (2)  identify and engage private partners to                                                                     
     support the program;                                                                                                       
               (3)  limit the number of participating                                                                           
       families to 650 for the first two years of program                                                                       
      implementation and thereafter increase the number of                                                                      
     participating families based on demand; and                                                                                
               (4)"                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON objected for discussion.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:26:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TUCK  explained that Amendment 1  accomplishes two                                                               
mandates:  First,  it requires Department of  Education and Early                                                               
Development  (EED)  to  maximize   federal  and  private  funding                                                               
sources to support the Parents  as Teachers method.  The existing                                                               
Parents as Teachers programs are  100 percent funded by non-state                                                               
sources,  which can  be used  to  leverage state  dollars in  the                                                               
future.  Second,  it limits the participating families  to 650 in                                                               
the first two  years of the program, augmenting  the 800 families                                                               
that are already being served in the state.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:26:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BUCH asked  how the fiscal note  would be effected                                                               
by the proposed amendment.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TUCK indicated that it lowers it to $1,950,000.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BUCH  clarified that this reduction  in funds will                                                               
still provide a means to accomplish the expectations set forth.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TUCK  assured  the  committee  that  because  the                                                               
Parents as  Teachers program is  already in place,  the requested                                                               
funding will  allow the  state to  directly monitor,  assess, and                                                               
make determinations regarding the program.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:27:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MUNOZ  queried  how  the  650  families  will  be                                                               
distributed around the state.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TUCK read from page 3,  line 6, of the bill, which                                                               
states:                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     (c) A  local agency  may apply  for funding  to provide                                                                    
     services   under   the   program   by   submitting   an                                                                    
     implementation  plan for  review  and  approval by  the                                                                    
     department.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TUCK pointed  out that  existing services  are in                                                               
place,  which  may  qualify for  these  funds,  additionally,  he                                                               
opined that  neighboring villages,  observing the success  of the                                                               
Parents as Teachers program, will  also apply.  He suggested that                                                               
allowing 650  slots is a  generous number  that may not  be fully                                                               
utilized.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:29:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EDDY  JEANS, Director,  School  Finance  and Facilities  Section,                                                               
Department of  Education and  Early Development  (EED), responded                                                               
to  Representative Buch's  previous  question,  stating that  the                                                               
amended fiscal  note will  be $1,950,000,  and will  be submitted                                                               
following the committee meeting.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON  asked  whether the  department  has  any  concerns                                                               
regarding Amendment 1.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS  replied, no, and said  it is clear that  the intent is                                                               
to provide a competitive grant process.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:30:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON mentioned  that the  department's existing  request                                                               
for proposal (RFP) to establish  pilot programs for four year old                                                               
kindergartener classrooms,  should not get confused  with what is                                                               
included  in this  bill.   He clarified  that stimulus  money may                                                               
exist  for  assisting  communities  to adopt  and  institute  the                                                               
Parents  as Teachers  model, but  it is  important to  understand                                                               
that  continued funding  is not  being guaranteed  by the  state.                                                               
The  current  Parents  as  Teachers  programs  are  federally  or                                                               
privately  funded,   and  those   resources  would  need   to  be                                                               
cultivated  to  sustain  stimulus   established  programs.    The                                                               
development/implementation  of a  template for  parent/home based                                                               
programs are held separate from  the department's RFP and intent,                                                               
he underscored.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:32:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KELLER stated  his understanding  that the  funds                                                               
for the bill will be administered by EED.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON said  that  is  correct, and  whether  the bill  is                                                               
ratified this session, or not,  a template will be developed, and                                                               
districts  will have  options available  in order  to meet  their                                                               
priorities.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:34:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WILSON  read the proposed language  being added to                                                               
the bill  via the  amendment, which  states, "(d)  The department                                                               
shall  (1) apply  for and  maximize federal  and private  funding                                                               
sources to  support the program established  under this section;"                                                               
and asked how it will apply.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON  explained that  this  is  corollary to  the  grant                                                               
program that  the department  has in  place as  an RFP,  and will                                                               
provide options  to school  districts.  He  predicted that  HB 69                                                               
will not  be enacted  this session,  but the  RFP will  allow the                                                               
districts to pursue early childhood program possibilities.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:36:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER  inquired whether the bill  would be better                                                               
served if it were to be held in committee for further review.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON established that, as  of this meeting, the committee                                                               
will have  allowed adequate  review and  amendment opportunities,                                                               
and if  the committee supports the  intent of HB 69,  it would be                                                               
appropriate to move it to the next committee of referral.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON opened public testimony                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:38:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOY LYON, Representative, Association  for the Education of Young                                                               
Children in SE Alaska, Member,  Juneau Drop-out Prevention & Drug                                                               
Free  Schools  Advisory Board,  stated  support  for HB  69,  and                                                               
stressed  the  importance  of  providing  direction  to  families                                                               
during the  early years of  parenthood.  The Parents  as Teachers                                                               
program is considered the gold  standard, and leadership for this                                                               
approach,  from  the  state,  would be  helpful.    Programs  are                                                               
established under  short term  grants, but  long term  support is                                                               
needed for sustainability.   State funds could  be leveraged with                                                               
grant money, she suggested.   Additionally, passing the bill will                                                               
support enrollment  of children  in the Imaginarium  (ph) Library                                                               
program.    Each child  enrolled  receives  a book  every  month,                                                               
establishing  a pattern  for literacy,  which dovetails  with the                                                               
Best  Beginnings   approach.    She  reported   that  her  office                                                               
routinely  fields  calls  from  parents  requesting  support  and                                                               
resource  materials.     The  Parents  as   Teachers  program  is                                                               
empowering,  respectful,  cost  effective,  and  appropriate  for                                                               
everyone.   She estimated that  10,000 new  kindergarteners enter                                                               
Alaskan  schools  each year,  who  could  be better  prepared  by                                                               
having participated in an early childhood program.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:42:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEBBIE BALDWIN, Director, Child  Development Division, RurAL Cap,                                                               
stated support for  HB 69, and indicted that  RurAL Cap considers                                                               
funding for  Parents as  Teachers to  be an  important investment                                                               
for  the  fiscal year  2009-10.    She acknowledged  the  various                                                               
public  forums  that recommend  and  support  services for  early                                                               
childhood  education and  the importance  for providing  services                                                               
both in and out  of the home.  The out of  home options have been                                                               
increased  via support  for Head  Start funding,  as well  as the                                                               
governor's pilot pre-kindergarten program.   However, the options                                                               
for in-home programs have not  progressed.  She stated her belief                                                               
that, because of the demands  on the educational Title I stimulus                                                               
funding,  the  districts  will   not  make  Parents  as  Teachers                                                               
programs  a top  priority.   Early work  with parents  in a  home                                                               
environment has proven  to be effective, she  reported, as proven                                                               
throughout the state/nation  via the programs that  are in place.                                                               
Early  engagement  of  the  parent is  essential,  and  the  home                                                               
environment as the best place for  education to begin.  Handing a                                                               
four year  old off to a  classroom environment is not  the key to                                                               
their  future success,  or  a lower  drop-out  rate, she  opined.                                                               
Head  Start  has  an  effective   in-home  component  and  family                                                               
involvement aspect;  a model worth  emulating.  Keeping  a parent                                                               
engaged in  their child's  education for  a sustained  period, as                                                               
well  as  empowering  them  to be  advocates  for  their  child's                                                               
learning, is essential.  Further,  she stressed that establishing                                                               
parental  involvement,  during   the  crucial  developmental  age                                                               
timeline,  would  be  difficult  to attain  through  a  classroom                                                               
model.     RurAL  Cap  supports  the   committee's  interest  for                                                               
investing in programs to provide  high quality, in-home services,                                                               
for parents who choose to participate.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:49:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KELLER touted  that Parents  as Teachers  plays a                                                               
vital  role  in Alaskan  education.    However, this  program  is                                                               
dependent on  local contributions, he  pointed out, and  asked if                                                               
the parental involvement  is a fundamental aspect  of the funding                                                               
component.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. BALDWIN  responded that Parents  as Teachers does not  have a                                                               
mandate  that a  specific amount  of in-kind  or non-federal/non-                                                               
state funding be  donated by the community; Head  Start does have                                                               
this requirement.   However, communities do tend  to be generous,                                                               
and contributions  of goods  and services  occurs on  a regularly                                                               
basis.  The  communities tend to become very  involved in Parents                                                               
as Teachers, and it is not  unusual to receive voluntary help, or                                                               
monetary  support   from  the  local  Native   agencies,  village                                                               
councils, businesses, or individuals.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:52:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER acknowledged that  47 programs exist in the                                                               
state, and he asked whether  factors can be identified to suggest                                                               
what  makes Parents  as Teachers  successful in  some communities                                                               
and not others.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. BALDWIN  citing two reasons,  said short term funding  is one                                                               
issue, which makes  it difficult to build  a meaningful community                                                               
program.   The primary funding source,  to date, is a  three year                                                               
federal project program, not a  program funding stream.  It would                                                               
be important  to have  follow up  funds to  keep students  in the                                                               
program, and to  afford progress monitoring.   Secondly, the most                                                               
successful  program continues  to  be Head  Start;  which has  an                                                               
extremely  effective training  and technical  assistance network.                                                               
The Parents as Teachers program  does not have this capacity, nor                                                               
does it have  a centralized analysis program to  collect data and                                                               
generate  reports.    RurAL  Cap has  established  a  Parents  as                                                               
Teachers state office to work towards improving this area.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:56:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER  asked whether Parents as  Teachers, a long                                                               
established program,  has been supported  in other states  with a                                                               
steady  funding stream  and  if  there is  a  correlation on  the                                                               
outcomes.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. BALDWIN acknowledged  that the program has been  in place for                                                               
twenty years, and  said she is studying how the  funding has been                                                               
continued in the various areas  to provide a sustainable program.                                                               
She offered to  provide information to the committee  on the ways                                                               
and means that states employ.  It  is her goal, she said, to gain                                                               
a full  understanding of the funding  sources, and opportunities,                                                               
that  are available  for Parents  as  Teachers.   In response  to                                                               
Chair  Seaton  she  agreed  to   submit  a  written  response  to                                                               
Representative Keller's full line of questioning.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON closed public testimony.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:59:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON removed  his objection to Amendment 1.   There being                                                               
no  further   objection,  Amendment  1,   labeled  26-LS0281\C.2,                                                               
Mischel, 4/7/09, was adopted.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:00:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON moved to adopt conceptual Amendment 2, as follows:                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 18, before "services,"                                                                                        
     Delete "indentified"                                                                                                       
     Insert "identified"                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON  called for  objection.   There being  no objection,                                                               
conceptual Amendment 2 was adopted.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:00:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MUNOZ  indicated that  the  fiscal  note is  also                                                               
amended.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON acknowledged that the  fiscal note now reflects $1.9                                                               
million,  provided  verbally,  with   the  official  document  to                                                               
follow.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:01:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER  stated opposition  to HB  69 based  on the                                                               
need for further information  regarding funding opportunities for                                                               
the Parent's as Teachers programs.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:02:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TUCK  commented  that  the intent  is  to  expand                                                               
resource  and  knowledge  opportunities  to  parents.    The  650                                                               
expansion figure  will allow existing  programs to  capitalize on                                                               
the funding.   He opined that this will maximize  the private and                                                               
public partnerships and allow state funds to be leveraged.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:04:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  stated support for the  bill, despite her                                                               
utopian  desire  for  young  children  to  be  at  home  with  an                                                               
attentive parent.   The original  concerns that she  harbored for                                                               
the ability to  afford in-home support of  an educational nature,                                                               
when case  workers are unable  to provide regular home  visits to                                                               
families in  need, has been laid  to rest she said.   The turning                                                               
point was  testimony taken in  a previous meeting, from  a Galena                                                               
school district representative, who  reported how the rural-urban                                                               
divide  has  been  erased  among   the  first  and  second  grade                                                               
students,  due  to   the  Parents  as  Teachers   program.    She                                                               
elaborated:                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     I think  when kids  start from  a variety  of different                                                                    
     places, and they come to  school with no assistance, we                                                                    
     just  see that  the  gaps ...  continue [through  their                                                                    
     educational career].  I think  that this is a very cost                                                                    
     effective program ... well  demonstrated in other parts                                                                    
     of the country.   One of the things that  I didn't know                                                                    
     in  my initial  opposition was  that we  have it  in 17                                                                    
     sites right  now.  ... A  lot of the e-mail  we get are                                                                    
     from people  talking about  the state  interfering with                                                                    
     families; I  don't see it  that way now.   I understand                                                                    
     we  ...   are  acknowledging   and  working   with  the                                                                    
      strengths that families offer as the first teachers                                                                       
      for their [children].  ... This approach just builds                                                                      
     on that.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:06:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER  pointed out  that Parents as  Teachers may                                                               
be funded  by a bill  that was just  passed, and he  stressed his                                                               
support for the program.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:07:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   BUCH  stated   that   various  early   childhood                                                               
education    entities    exist,   along    with    administrative                                                               
machinations, and asked if the  RFP process allows the department                                                               
appropriate  coordination/oversight of  all  the facets  involved                                                               
across the state.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS responded  that the department is  already pursuing the                                                               
direction  of  early childhood  education.    The department  has                                                               
included a  parent resource center in  the pilot pre-kindergarten                                                               
program.  The  difference is the home visit  component.  However,                                                               
the department's intent  is to offer a menu of  options for early                                                               
childhood development, he reported.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TUCK agreed  that a tapestry of  options is needed                                                               
and the department is working to that end.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:09:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON clarified  that he supports the  program, and stated                                                               
his interest in  learning from RurAL Cap  why certain communities                                                               
find success and what is the  key to that success.  Involving the                                                               
department  will also  ensure the  qualifications of  individuals                                                               
administering early childhood programs.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:11:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MUNOZ  moved  to  report  CSHB  69,  Version  26-                                                               
LS0281\C,  Mischel, 2/9/09,  as  amended, out  of committee  with                                                               
individual recommendations  and the  amended fiscal note.   There                                                               
being no  objection, CSHB 69(EDC),  Version C, was  reported from                                                               
the House Education Standing Committee.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at ease from 9:12 to 9:16 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:16:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HB 130-STUDENT QUESTIONNAIRES AND SURVEYS                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:17:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON announced  that the next order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL  NO.  130  "An Act  relating  to  questionnaires  and                                                               
surveys administered in the public schools."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:17:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WILSON introduced the  CS for HB 130, paraphrasing                                                               
from  a  prepared  statement, which  read  as  follows  [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     To  refresh  your  memory,  HB   130  will  change  the                                                                    
     parental  consent requirements  for surveys  in schools                                                                    
     from active to passive for anonymous surveys.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     During the  first hearing of  HB 130 in  this committee                                                                    
     there were a couple of  questions about the language in                                                                    
     section  1  and section  2  of  the  bill.   There  was                                                                    
     further  discussion on  the necessity  of the  language                                                                    
     "or an employee of a school district" in Section 1.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     The  committee substitute  before you  has standardized                                                                    
     language in  Section 1 and  Section 2.  The  CS retains                                                                    
     the  language "or  an employee  of  a school  district"                                                                    
     because  the  drafter  didn't want  to  unintentionally                                                                    
     exclude employees of the district.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     This change  in the  bill language  did not  change the                                                                    
     meaning of the bill in any way.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:18:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   WILSON   moved   to    adopt   CSHB   130,   26-                                                               
LS0405\S,Mischel,4/7/09.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON objected for discussion.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:18:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER  questioned   the  effectiveness  of  the                                                               
language [page 1,  line 4] "a school district  may not administer                                                               
...", when the school district  is comprised of individuals.  She                                                               
expressed concern  for excluding potential volunteers,  perhaps a                                                               
retired teacher, who would administer a survey.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON pointed out that  the language continues as [page 1,                                                               
line  5] "or  permits the  administration of  a questionnaire  or                                                               
survey ...".   The intent  appears to be providing  teachers with                                                               
clarity that  they are not allowed  to conduct a survey  in their                                                               
own classroom.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:21:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON removed  his  objection.   There  being no  further                                                               
objection, CSHB 130, Version S, was before the committee.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:21:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON opened public testimony.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:21:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CARL  ROSE,  Executive  Director, Association  of  Alaska  School                                                               
Boards  (AASB), stated  support for  HB 130,  and explained  that                                                               
active  consent is  a  high  standard, which  yields  a very  low                                                               
return  regarding  "vital  information  that we  need  to  have."                                                               
Passive  consent still  allows  parents to  object  or deny  that                                                               
their children  take advantage of  the opportunity, but  it still                                                               
provides  the possibility  for  obtaining  information.   Another                                                               
issue  regards evaluation  of  the results.    Districts rely  on                                                               
survey  results  for  planning  purposes.     In  order  to  have                                                               
meaningful  analysis a  substantial percent  of participation  is                                                               
required.   Sufficient  sampling  allows  districts to  determine                                                               
effectiveness  of   programs,  identify  needs,   and  strategize                                                               
accordingly.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON closed public testimony.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:24:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MUNOZ  moved  to report  CSHB  130,  26-LS0405\S,                                                               
Mischel,    4/7/09,   out    of    committee   with    individual                                                               
recommendations and  the accompanying fiscal notes.   There being                                                               
no objection,  CSHB 130 (EDC),  Version S, was reported  from the                                                               
House Education Standing Committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at ease from 9:25 to 9:27.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:27:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HB 215-STUDENT COUNTS/TEACHERS' SALARIES                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON announced that the  final order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL NO.  215,  "An  Act relating  to  student counts  for                                                               
school  funding purposes;  and  repealing  school experience  for                                                               
salary scales provisions."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:27:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON   opened  public  testimony,  and   seeing  no  one                                                               
presenting  themselves   to  the  committee,  he   closed  public                                                               
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:27:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WILSON moved  to  adopt  Conceptual Amendment  1,                                                               
which states:                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Delete Sections:  1, 2, 3, 4, 6.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Retain:  Section 5                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON objected for discussion.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:28:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WILSON  provided  an update  for  the  committee,                                                               
paraphrasing  from  a  prepared  statement and  the  new  sponsor                                                               
statement,   which   read   as  follows   [original   punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     To refresh  the committee's memory, HB  215 will repeal                                                                    
     salary scale  limitations for hiring  new out  of state                                                                    
     teachers.  Additionally it  will average student counts                                                                    
     in  the spring  and  fall to  determine school  funding                                                                    
     numbers for the following school year.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     With this bill to we  are trying to proactively address                                                                    
     the  issues   of  high  drop  out   rates  and  teacher                                                                    
     recruitment.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     HB 215 repeals salary  scale limitations for hiring new                                                                    
     out of  state teachers,  allowing for  more competitive                                                                    
     recruitment efforts.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     HB 215 will help school  districts hire staff for hard-                                                                    
     to-fill  positions.     Specialty  positions,  such  as                                                                    
     therapists  and  special  needs teachers  are  in  high                                                                    
     demand in  school districts across the  country, and we                                                                    
     have a shortage here in Alaska.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Current  statutes  limit the  amount  of  out of  state                                                                    
     professional experience  that may be used  to establish                                                                    
     a teacher's  position on the  salary scale.   No matter                                                                    
     how  long  they  have  been   teaching,  out  of  state                                                                    
     teachers  with  a  bachelors degree  can  only  receive                                                                    
     credit for six years of  out of state experience.  With                                                                    
     a masters degree that is increased to eight years.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     By  repealing this  antiquated statute,  districts will                                                                    
     be able to negotiate salaries  on a case by case basis,                                                                    
     this will  help keep  Alaska competitive with  the rest                                                                    
     of  the  country  when  vying  for  needed  educational                                                                    
     professionals.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:29:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON  acknowledged that the  original bill  addressed two                                                               
issues,  and Amendment  1 effectively  rectifies that  situation.                                                               
The different  topics will be  appropriately served  through this                                                               
action, he said, and expressed appreciation to the sponsor.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:31:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER stated  her  interest  in supporting  the                                                               
aspects that are being amended out of the bill.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON maintained  the importance  for keeping  the issues                                                               
separate,  and  indicated  that  the  deleted  sections  will  be                                                               
continuing  topics during  the interim,  and brought  back before                                                               
the committee next session.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BUCH  noted that  the  amendment  will require  a                                                               
title change, as well.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:32:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MUNOZ asked for an  explanation of the term school                                                               
experience, when applied to the salary scale.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WILSON explained that a  new teacher to the Alaska                                                               
system,  who has  taught elsewhere,  should expect  to receive  a                                                               
monetary increment credit for each year of experience.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:33:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON removed  his objection  to conceptual  Amendment 1.                                                               
There being no  further objection, conceptual Amendment  1, to HB                                                               
215, was adopted.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:33:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MUNOZ moved  to report HB 215,  26-LS0456\T out of                                                               
committee, as  amended, with  individual recommendations  and the                                                               
accompanying  fiscal note.    There being  no  objection, HB  215                                                               
(EDC), Version T, was reported  from the House Education Standing                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:34:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Following  completion of  the  agenda  items, discussion  ensued                                                               
regarding   interim  meeting   topics,  and   related  conference                                                               
dates/agendas  of importance  to  state  educators and  committee                                                               
members.]                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:47:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   SEATON  thanked   the  committee   members  and   meeting                                                               
participants for their dedicated service to the state.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Education Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 9:47 a.m.