ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
    HOUSE COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                   
                         March 21, 2023                                                                                         
                           8:04 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative CJ McCormick, Chair                                                                                              
Representative Kevin McCabe, Vice Chair                                                                                         
Representative Tom McKay                                                                                                        
Representative Justin Ruffridge                                                                                                 
Representative Rebecca Himschoot                                                                                                
Representative Donna Mears                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josiah Patkotak                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Julie Coulombe                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 61                                                                                                               
"An Act relating to restrictions on firearms and other weapons."                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HB 61 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 17                                                                                                               
"An  Act relating  to insurance  coverage for  contraceptives and                                                               
related  services; relating  to medical  assistance coverage  for                                                               
contraceptives  and  related  services;   and  providing  for  an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSHB 17(HSS) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 84                                                                                                               
"An Act relating to municipal property tax; and providing for an                                                                
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB  61                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: LIMITATIONS ON FIREARMS RESTRICTIONS                                                                               
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) TILTON                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
02/06/23       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/06/23       (H)       CRA, STA                                                                                               
03/16/23       (H)       CRA AT 8:00 AM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/16/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/16/23       (H)       MINUTE(CRA)                                                                                            
03/21/23       (H)       CRA AT 8:00 AM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB  17                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: CONTRACEPTIVES COVERAGE:INSURE;MED ASSIST                                                                          
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) CARRICK                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
01/19/23       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/9/23                                                                                
01/19/23       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/19/23       (H)       HSS, CRA, L&C, FIN                                                                                     
02/07/23       (H)       HSS AT 3:00 PM DAVIS 106                                                                               
02/07/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/07/23       (H)       MINUTE(HSS)                                                                                            
02/18/23       (H)       HSS AT 3:00 PM DAVIS 106                                                                               
02/18/23       (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
03/02/23       (H)       HSS AT 3:00 PM DAVIS 106                                                                               
03/02/23       (H)       Moved CSHB 17(HSS) Out of Committee                                                                    
03/02/23       (H)       MINUTE(HSS)                                                                                            
03/07/23       (H)       HSS AT 3:00 PM DAVIS 106                                                                               
03/07/23       (H)       Moved CSHB 17(HSS) Out of Committee                                                                    
03/07/23       (H)       MINUTE(HSS)                                                                                            
03/08/23       (H)       HSS RPT CS(HSS) 3DP 2NR                                                                                
03/08/23       (H)       DP: RUFFRIDGE, SUMNER, MINA                                                                            
03/08/23       (H)       NR: SADDLER, PRAX                                                                                      
03/16/23       (H)       CRA AT 8:00 AM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/16/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/16/23       (H)       MINUTE(CRA)                                                                                            
03/17/23       (H)       FIN REFERRAL REMOVED                                                                                   
03/17/23       (H)       BILL REPRINTED                                                                                         
03/21/23       (H)       CRA AT 8:00 AM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB  84                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: MUNI PROP TAX EXEMPTION/TAX BLIGHTED PROP                                                                          
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) SUMNER                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
02/27/23       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/27/23       (H)       CRA, FIN                                                                                               
03/21/23       (H)       CRA AT 8:00 AM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DICK TRAINI, representing self                                                                                                  
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 61.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MIKE COONS, President                                                                                                           
Concerned Conservatives of Alaska                                                                                               
Palmer, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 61 and testified                                                              
in opposition to HB 17.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
LUANN MCVEY, representing self                                                                                                  
Douglas, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to HB 61.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CAROLINE PORTER, representing self                                                                                              
Palmer, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 61.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ED MARTIN, representing self                                                                                                    
Kenai, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 61.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ANNA YANCEY, representing self                                                                                                  
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 61.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
TABITHA NARDINI, representing self                                                                                              
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 61.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
PAMELA SAMASH, representing self                                                                                                
Nenana, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 61 and in                                                                     
opposition to HB 17.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
KEN GRIFFIN, representing self                                                                                                  
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 61.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ROCHELLE PARKER, representing self                                                                                              
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to HB 61.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL LAFAY, representing self                                                                                                
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 61.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
JAN CAULFIELD, representing self                                                                                                
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to HB 61.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MARIAN CLAEGH, representing self                                                                                                
Auk Bay, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to HB 61.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ODETTE EDGAR, representing self                                                                                                 
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to HB 61.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
FRANK RUE, representing self                                                                                                    
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to HB 61.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ASHLEY CARRICK                                                                                                   
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  As prime sponsor, spoke to CSHB 17(HSS).                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MORGAN LIM, Advocate                                                                                                            
Planned Parenthood Alliance Advocates Alaska                                                                                    
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 17.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
KC CASORT, representing self                                                                                                    
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 17.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
KATELYN SAFT, representing self                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 17.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
JAMIE GIBSON, representing self                                                                                                 
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 17.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ROSE TITUS, representing self                                                                                                   
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 17.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHARLES SEMLING, Pharmacy Manager                                                                                               
Alaska Medicaid                                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Made himself available to answer questions                                                               
during the hearing on HB 17.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROSE O'HARA-JOLLEY, representing self                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 17.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BROOK BEVERIDGE, representing self                                                                                              
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 17.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
PAIGE HODSON, representing self                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 17.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ALEX KOPLIN,                                                                                                                    
representing self                                                                                                               
Homer, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 17.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JESSE SUMNER                                                                                                     
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  As prime sponsor, presented HB 84.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
JESSE LOGAN, Staff                                                                                                              
Representative Jessie Sumner                                                                                                    
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  On behalf of Representative Sumner, prime                                                                
sponsor, answered questions on HB 84.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BILL POPP, President                                                                                                            
Anchorage Economic Development Corporation                                                                                      
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Gave invited testimony in support of HB 84.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MIKE ROBBINS, Executive Director                                                                                                
Anchorage Community Development Authority                                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Gave invited testimony in support of HB 84.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
NILS ANDREASSEN, Executive Director                                                                                             
Alaska Municipal League                                                                                                         
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Gave invited testimony in support of HB 84.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:04:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CJ  MCCORMICK  called the  House  Community  and  Regional                                                             
Affairs  Standing  Committee  meeting   to  order  at  8:04  a.m.                                                               
Representatives McKay,  Ruffridge, Himschoot, Mears,  McCabe, and                                                               
McCormick were  present at the call  to order.  Also  present was                                                               
Representative Coulombe.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          HB  61-LIMITATIONS ON FIREARMS RESTRICTIONS                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:05:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCORMICK announced that the  first order of business would                                                               
be  HOUSE  BILL NO.  61,  "An  Act  relating to  restrictions  on                                                               
firearms and other weapons."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:06:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 8:06 a.m. to 8:07 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:07:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCORMICK opened public testimony on HB 61.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:07:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DICK TRAINI,  representing self, testified  in support of  HB 61.                                                               
He  stated  he  had  witnessed   firsthand  the  situation  after                                                               
Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans,  and he reinforced the need for                                                               
the right of citizens to bear arms.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:09:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE  COONS, President,  Concerned  Conservatives  of Alaska,  on                                                               
behalf  of  the  Concerned  Conservatives  of  Alaska,  expressed                                                               
support for HB  61.  He pointed out other  businesses were deemed                                                               
essential and allowed  to open during the  COVID-19 pandemic, but                                                               
gun stores  and churches  were closed.   He argued  against these                                                               
closures.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:12:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LUANN MCVEY,  representing self, stated  that she is  a volunteer                                                               
with  the Alaska  Chapter of  Moms Demand  Action for  Gun Sense.                                                               
She expressed  opposition to HB 61.   She urged the  committee to                                                               
put its  time and energy  into constructive legislation,  such as                                                               
required  secure storage  of firearms  or increasing  funding for                                                               
schools.    She observed  that  during  disasters or  emergencies                                                               
emotions tend  to run high, and  it may be necessary  to restrict                                                               
gun usage to limit any chaos which may erupt.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:15:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CAROLINE PORTER,  representing self,  testified in support  of HB                                                               
61 on behalf of her family.   She stated that during the COVID-19                                                               
pandemic  singling  out  the  closure   of  a  specific  type  of                                                               
business, such  as gun stores,  caused financial hardship  on the                                                               
owners.  She  argued that the bill is about  equity, in that some                                                               
stores which  did not seem  essential were allowed to  stay open.                                                               
She  continued  that  the   closures  were  unconstitutional  and                                                               
unfair.   She  stated that  the Second  Amendment [to  the United                                                               
States Constitution] to keep and bear arms must be ensured.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:17:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ED MARTIN, representing self, testified in  support of HB 61.  He                                                               
expressed the  belief that  the bill would  "cure a  problem that                                                               
never  should have  happened."   He suggested  that the  opposite                                                               
should happen in  any emergency.  He discussed  martial law cases                                                               
across  the  history of  the  country  and how  Second  Amendment                                                               
rights were not suspended during these times.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:20:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANNA YANCEY,  representing self, testified  in support of  HB 61.                                                               
Because of the  nature of humans, she stated  individuals need to                                                               
be  able  to  protect  themselves   during  an  emergency.    She                                                               
commented on the imperfect nature  of humans and pointed out that                                                               
during  emergencies ideas  may  not  be well  thought  out.   She                                                               
expressed the opinion that individuals  should be able to protect                                                               
themselves.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:23:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TABITHA NARDINI,  representing self,  testified in support  of HB                                                               
61.  She said if a  state emergency should happen, she would like                                                               
to be able to protect her family and home.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:23:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAMELA SAMASH, representing self, testified  in support of HB 61.                                                               
She  shared that  her  family  has generations  of  being in  the                                                               
military.  She  pointed out that Planned  Parenthood's office was                                                               
open  while  churches  and  gun stores  were  closed  during  the                                                               
pandemic.   She argued that  this benefited one group  of people,                                                               
while another  group of people suffered.   She shared a  story of                                                               
how she  protected her  family from an  attempted intruder.   She                                                               
advised that  having a  firearm had stopped  the intrusion.   She                                                               
stressed the importance of home protection.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:26:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KEN GRIFFIN,  representing self, testified  in support of  HB 61.                                                               
He  argued that  "criminals do  not  buy guns  from stores,  they                                                               
steal or buy  them on the street;" therefore, the  bill would not                                                               
affect  criminals.   He  stated  that it  would  only affect  law                                                               
abiding  citizens.   He pointed  out that  during any  emergency,                                                               
shipping  may be  halted to  Alaska, and  citizens would  need to                                                               
hunt for food; therefore, they would need access to gun stores.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:28:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROCHELLE  PARKER,  representing  self,   stated  that  she  is  a                                                               
volunteer with  the Anchorage Chapter  of Moms Demand  Action for                                                               
Gun Sense  in America.  She  stated that she strongly  opposes HB                                                               
61.    She  argued  that  the government  does  not  need  to  be                                                               
restricted in any emergency, as there  are so many unknowns.  She                                                               
expressed fear  for her children  during an  emergency situation,                                                               
as citizens  may be carrying  unchecked firearms.   She suggested                                                               
that passing the  proposed legislation could expose  the state to                                                               
costly lawsuits.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:29:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL LAFAY, representing self, testified  in support of HB 61.                                                               
He stated that citizens should be able to protect themselves.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:31:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAN CAULFIELD,  representing self, testified in  opposition to HB                                                               
61.   She stated that her  family owns guns for  hunting, and she                                                               
opposes  the   bill  in   its  current   form.     She  expressed                                                               
understanding  for the  argument  for equity  in  commerce.   She                                                               
stated that if the bill only  addressed this issue, she would not                                                               
oppose  it.   She  argued  that  the  bill  would not  allow  any                                                               
restrictions  on   guns  in  a   declared  emergency,   and  this                                                               
limitation  on state  and local  authorities is  dangerous.   She                                                               
also discussed  the costly  litigation that  may ensue,  and this                                                               
could also hamper the decision-making process.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:33:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARIAN CLAEGH,  representing self, testified in  opposition to HB                                                               
61.  She  stated that she is  a gun owner and  a grandmother, and                                                               
she is  not antigun.   She  argued that  the Second  Amendment is                                                               
already protected  in other legislation,  and this bill  would be                                                               
redundant and invite needless expense.   She expressed concern on                                                               
page 2, line 13 of the bill, as  it would allow a civil action to                                                               
bring a lawsuit against state or municipal agencies.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:36:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ODETTE EDGAR,  representing self,  testified in opposition  to HB                                                               
61.  She  stated that her main  objection to the bill  is that it                                                               
would allow a gun rights  organization the ability to bring civil                                                               
action  and collect  punitive damages  against public  officials.                                                               
She argued  that society is  currently overly litigious  and "the                                                               
bill takes us further down that road."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:38:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
FRANK RUE, representing  self, testified in opposition  to HB 61.                                                               
He stated  that he is  a gun owner  and a former  commissioner of                                                               
the  Alaska Department  of  Fish and  Game.   He  stated that  he                                                               
supports shooting  sports, hunting, and the  safe and responsible                                                               
use of firearms; however, he expressed  concerns about HB 61.  He                                                               
expressed no  problem concerning the commerce  and equity portion                                                               
of the  bill; however, he  expressed the opinion that  the bill's                                                               
vagueness could  possibly lead to individuals  having firearms in                                                               
schools.    He   advised  that  the  bill  should   be  clear  so                                                               
individuals in charge  of dealing with a disaster are  not put in                                                               
jeopardy.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:41:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCORMICK,  after ascertaining  there was  no one  else who                                                               
wished to testify, closed public testimony on HB 61.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:42:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCABE moved  to report  HB 61  out of  committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  fiscal                                                               
notes.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MEARS  objected.   She expressed  appreciation for                                                               
the  protection   of  Second   Amendment  rights;   however,  she                                                               
expressed  the  understanding  that   these  rights  are  already                                                               
protected.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:43:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 8:43 a.m. to 8:44 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:44:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MEARS maintained her objection.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:44:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll  call vote was  taken.  Representatives  McKay, Ruffridge,                                                               
McCabe, and McCormick  voted in favor of the motion  to report HB                                                               
61  out  of committee  with  individual  recommendations and  the                                                               
accompanying fiscal  notes.  Representatives Mears  and Himschoot                                                               
voted  against it.   Therefore,  HB 61  was reported  out of  the                                                               
House  Community and  Regional  Affairs Standing  Committee by  a                                                               
vote of 4-2.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:45:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 8:45 a.m. to 8:50 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
        HB  17-CONTRACEPTIVES COVERAGE:INSURE;MED ASSIST                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:50:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCORMICK announced  that the next order  of business would                                                               
be HOUSE BILL NO. 17, "An  Act relating to insurance coverage for                                                               
contraceptives   and  related   services;  relating   to  medical                                                               
assistance coverage for contraceptives  and related services; and                                                               
providing  for an  effective date."   [Before  the committee  was                                                               
CSHB 17(HSS).]                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:50:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ASHLEY  CARRICK,  Alaska  State  Legislature,  as                                                               
prime  sponsor, provided  a recap  of CSHB  17(HSS).   She stated                                                               
that  the proposed  bill would  change  the relationship  between                                                               
insurance companies  and patients, as opposed  to individuals and                                                               
providers.  She  stated that it would create a  mandate for up to                                                               
12 months of  prescription contraceptives to be  dispensed at one                                                               
time.   As  providers can  already issue  12-month prescriptions,                                                               
this  would  affect   what  happens  at  the   counter  with  the                                                               
pharmacists.   She added  that the  provider could  still control                                                               
the amount of prescriptions.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:51:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 8:51 a.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:51:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCORMICK opened public testimony on HB 17.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:52:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MORGAN LIM, Planned Parenthood  Alliance Advocates (PPAA) Alaska,                                                               
testified in support  of HB 17.  He stated  that he is testifying                                                               
on behalf  of PPAA, which  is in  strong support of  the proposed                                                               
legislation.   He  stated that  the  bill would  give women  more                                                               
control over the choice of  having children, creating more career                                                               
and  education  opportunities.    In regard  to  obtaining  birth                                                               
control,  he explained  the difficulties  for women  who live  or                                                               
work in remote  areas.  He cited studies which  found that having                                                               
a  longer   supply  of   contraceptives  would   reduce  unwanted                                                               
pregnancies and abortions.  He  explained how the bill would save                                                               
the state money.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:55:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KC  CASORT, representing  self, testified  in support  of HB  17.                                                               
She reiterated  what the bill  would do.   She shared  a negative                                                               
experience she  had while only  on a month-long  prescription for                                                               
contraceptives.   She described the  timeframe she had  to refill                                                               
her prescription as a "narrow window."   She stated that once she                                                               
had access  to reliable birth  control, she was able  to complete                                                               
her degree without a "pregnancy scare."                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:57:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATELYN SAFT, representing  self, testified in support  of HB 17.                                                               
She  reiterated  the  difficulties  in  obtaining  birth  control                                                               
prescriptions for individuals who live off the road system.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:58:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAMIE GIBSON, representing  self, testified in support  of HB 17.                                                               
She stated  that birth control  "saved her  life."  She  shared a                                                               
personal  crisis   concerning  her  reproductive  health.     She                                                               
discussed  the  benefits  of  having a  year's  supply  of  birth                                                               
control.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:01:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROSE TITUS,  representing self,  testified in  support of  HB 17.                                                               
She  shared  her  struggle with  endometriosis  and  stated  this                                                               
medical  condition  is  under  control  with  the  use  of  birth                                                               
control; however, obtaining this  is difficult because her health                                                               
insurance will  not cover more  than a month's prescription  at a                                                               
time.   She noted  the staffing shortages  in pharmacies  and how                                                               
this has created problems getting prescriptions filled.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:04:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE  COONS,   President,  Concerned  Conservatives   of  Alaska,                                                               
testified in opposition  to HB 17.  He stated  that the bill does                                                               
nothing for the poor and if mandated,  it will add to the cost of                                                               
insurance for  all.   He pointed  out that  in rural  Alaska this                                                               
medication can be received via mail.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:06:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHARLES SEMLING, Pharmacy Manager,  Alaska Medicaid, stated he is                                                               
not testifying but is available for questions.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:06:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROSE O'HARA-JOLLEY,  representing self,  testified in  support of                                                               
HB 17.   She  shared her  experience of  working remote  while in                                                               
perimenopause.    She  explained  that  medication  relieved  her                                                               
symptoms, but she could not get  the time off [from a remote job]                                                               
to get the prescribed medication refilled after it ran out.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:09:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAMELA SAMASH,  representing self, testified in  opposition to HB                                                               
17.  She  explained that she lives remotely  and does telehealth,                                                               
and  she has  prescriptions mailed  to  her.   She expressed  the                                                               
understanding that  birth control pills "can  be very dangerous,"                                                               
and  she  shared  a  personal reproductive  health  scare.    She                                                               
advised that patients should see their doctors often.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:12:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BROOK BEVERIDGE,  representing self,  testified in support  of HB                                                               
17.  She reiterated the  issues that rural and Native communities                                                               
have in  obtaining medications.   She stated that she  uses birth                                                               
control to stabilize hormonal imbalances.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:14:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAIGE HODSON, representing  self, testified in support  of HB 17.                                                               
She expressed the opinion that  this is "common sense legislation                                                               
to remove  barriers on  contraceptive access."   She  stated that                                                               
unintended  pregnancies can  often have  a devastating  effect on                                                               
women  and the  communities.   She  referred  to the  legislation                                                               
passed  in other  states  and how  those states  have  seen a  30                                                               
percent drop in unintended pregnancies.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:15:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALEX KOPLIN,  representing self, testified  in support of  HB 17.                                                               
He stated  that he  has lived  in Alaska for  45 years  with four                                                               
daughters  and one  son.   He commented  that the  bill is  well-                                                               
rounded and well  crafted.  He discussed how this  would help all                                                               
Alaskans.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:17:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCORMICK,  after ascertaining that  there was no  one else                                                               
who wished to testify, closed public testimony on HB 17.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:18:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCABE  moved  to  report  CSHB  17(HSS)  out  of                                                               
committee with  individual recommendations and the  attached zero                                                               
fiscal note.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:18:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MEARS objected  for  the  purpose of  discussion.                                                               
She  thanked  everyone  for  testifying  today  and  for  sharing                                                               
personal  medical history.   She  stated that  she supports  CSHB                                                               
17(HSS), and she removed her objection.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:19:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCCORMICK  mirrored  Representative  Mears'  comments  and                                                               
spoke   on  behalf   of  rural   individuals,  as   the  proposed                                                               
legislation is significant for them.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCCORMICK, after  ascertaining that  there was  no further                                                               
objection, announced  that CSHB 17(HSS)  was reported out  of the                                                               
House Community and Regional Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:19:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 9:19 a.m. to 9:23 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
        HB  84-MUNI PROP TAX EXEMPTION/TAX BLIGHTED PROP                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:23:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCORMICK announced that the  final order of business would                                                               
be  HOUSE BILL  NO. 84,  "An Act  relating to  municipal property                                                               
tax; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:24:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JESSE  SUMNER, Alaska State Legislature,  as prime                                                               
sponsor, presented HB  84.  He paraphrased  the sponsor statement                                                               
[copy included  in the committee  packet], which read  as follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     HB  84  provides  local  governments  with  additional,                                                                    
     optional tools to incentivize economic development.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     First,  HB 84  allows  municipalities  to fully  exempt                                                                    
     property  taxes  for   economic  development  purposes.                                                                    
     Currently, municipalities  may only exempt  the portion                                                                    
     of  property   taxes  that  is  above   the  district's                                                                    
     required local  contribution. HB 84 removes  this limit                                                                    
     for  economic  development  properties.  However,  this                                                                    
     change does not impact  education funding. The mandated                                                                    
     local  contribution  must  still   be  met,  but  other                                                                    
     revenue sources may be used to meet this requirement.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Second,  HB  84  allows  local governments  to  levy  a                                                                    
     "blight   tax".  "Blighted"   properties  are   heavily                                                                    
     deteriorated  properties that  can reduce  property tax                                                                    
     and   quality   of   life  by   devaluing   neighboring                                                                    
     properties. Blighted  properties often become  a magnet                                                                    
     for  criminal activity,  which impose  additional costs                                                                    
     upon the local government.  A "blight tax" implements a                                                                    
     higher  tax on  these properties,  however, the  tax is                                                                    
     reduced when  the property is  appropriately remediated                                                                    
     and no  longer considered  "blighted." Under HB  84, it                                                                    
     is up  to the local  government's discretion  to define                                                                    
     what  properties are  considered  "blighted," what  the                                                                    
     tax   rate   would   be,   and   what   is   considered                                                                    
     "remediated."  It   is  further   left  to   the  local                                                                    
     government's discretion whether  they seek to establish                                                                    
     this  system;  they  cannot use  the  blight  tax  tool                                                                    
     without adopting additional local code.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Declining  state   revenue  has  limited   the  State's                                                                    
     ability to invest  in economic development initiatives.                                                                    
     This has left the municipalities  to rely more on their                                                                    
     own means  to facilitate  those projects.  Coupled with                                                                    
     rising  construction costs  and  an insufficient  labor                                                                    
     force, economic development  initiatives have suffered.                                                                    
     HB  84 seeks  to  address these  concerns by  providing                                                                    
     further options  for localities;  however, it  does not                                                                    
     impose any new  requirementslocal  governments are free                                                                    
     to use these tools or to  decline to do so. I urge your                                                                    
     support.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:26:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT expressed  concern regarding language on                                                               
page 2,  line 13 which relates  that a local community  would set                                                               
the standards  for determining  whether properties  are blighted.                                                               
She asked whether municipalities would  be able to increase taxes                                                               
for people who are occupying a property which appears blighted.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:28:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTITIVE  SUMNER responded  in the  affirmative.   He added                                                               
that if  a local government  "chooses to make such  a politically                                                               
interesting choice,"  there would  be repercussions;  however, he                                                               
continued with the opinion that this  would not happen.  He added                                                               
that communities should have local control.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:29:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JESSE LOGAN,  Staff, Representative  Jessie Sumner,  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, on  behalf of  Representative Sumner,  prime sponsor                                                               
of HB  84, responded to  Representative Himschoot's concern.   He                                                               
explained  that  the property  owners  would  have the  right  to                                                               
challenge  a  designation  of  "blighting."    He  expressed  the                                                               
opinion that  it would be raised  to a level of  public awareness                                                               
to where there would have to be public notices.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:30:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCORMICK welcomed invited testimony.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:30:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BILL POPP, President,  Anchorage Economic Development Corporation                                                               
(AEDC), provided  a brief background  and gave  invited testimony                                                               
in support of  HB 84.  He stated that  AEDC supports the proposed                                                               
legislation, as it  would add key elements that  currently do not                                                               
exist in the  "economic development toolbox."   He explained that                                                               
the proposed  legislation would provide more  latitude to address                                                               
needs, of which  Mike Robbins, a fellow  invited testifier, would                                                               
be addressing.   He  further explained that  the bill  could have                                                               
the  potential to  be a  "game changer"  in terms  of adding  new                                                               
housing in Anchorage and making it more cost-effective.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:35:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCABE inquired  about what  kind of  protections                                                               
AEDC  envisions   which  would  prevent  an   assembly  from  not                                                               
listening to residents and "just willy-nilly taking property."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. POPP  replied AEDC does not  have power over assemblies.   He                                                               
expressed the  belief that  the public process  element in  HB 84                                                               
would provide a robust debate.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE  expressed the  desire to  strongly protect                                                               
homeowners,  especially  ones  going  through  hard  times.    He                                                               
expressed support  for protecting individuals' rights  as well as                                                               
the municipalities' rights.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:38:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE   ROBBINS,    Executive   Director,    Anchorage   Community                                                               
Development Authority,  expressed the  opinion that  the proposed                                                               
bill would stimulate economic and  housing development around the                                                               
state.   He noted  that the  housing shortages  in Alaska  are at                                                               
"all  levels."   He said  Section  1 of  the bill  would help  to                                                               
address  the challenge  facing builders,  and  this challenge  is                                                               
mainly the  cost.  He continued  that the bill would  give cities                                                               
local  control  in the  decision-making  process,  as the  cities                                                               
would decide  the amount and length  of an abatement.   He opined                                                               
that this  is something which  belongs at the city  level; cities                                                               
should  have the  opportunity to  make  these determinations  for                                                               
themselves.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:43:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  brought up  that 100  percent abatement                                                               
is  already allowed  for deteriorated  properties, and  she asked                                                               
whether this is correct.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ROBBINS   replied  that  under  current   state  law,  local                                                               
municipalities are  allowed to abate the  school district portion                                                               
of the property tax for deteriorated  property.  In response to a                                                               
follow-up question, he affirmed this only  works for a lot with a                                                               
building  that needs  to be  removed or  refurbished; however,  a                                                               
blank lot with  no structure is not eligible for  an abatement of                                                               
the school district tax.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:45:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   RUFFRIDGE  question   whether   there  is   data                                                               
concerning  the  amount of  blighted  property,  for example,  in                                                               
Anchorage.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROBBINS responded that his  organization has not done a study                                                               
or identified  all blighted property  in Anchorage  because there                                                               
are no  ordinances, and  the definition of  what this  might look                                                               
like is unclear.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE  expressed 100  percent support  for the                                                               
local control  that HB 84  would provide.   In terms  of blighted                                                               
property, he asked  if there would be an incentive  to reduce the                                                               
tax  burden if  the property  is remediated;  however, he  opined                                                               
that the  bill could also be  used to increase property  taxes if                                                               
the property is not remediated.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROBBINS replied  that the proposed legislation  could be used                                                               
as a "carrot-stick"  approach.  He used an example  with an owner                                                               
qualifying  for   deteriorated  property.     The   person  could                                                               
redevelop  the  property for  economic  purposes,  and under  the                                                               
provisions of HB  84, this owner would be able  to take advantage                                                               
of  the  100  percent  tax   abatement  for  redevelopment.    He                                                               
continued that if the owner  was not developing the property, and                                                               
the city wanted  to encourage this, it could  place an additional                                                               
mill   rate  on   the  property   and  additionally   incentivize                                                               
redevelopment with  a tax.   Once the property is  developed, the                                                               
city could also  give a tax abatement; therefore,  the bill could                                                               
work in both  directions.  He expressed the opinion  that this is                                                               
the benefit of the bill.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:50:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NILS  ANDREASSEN, Executive  Director,  Alaska Municipal  League,                                                               
gave invited testimony  in support of HB 84.   He stated that the                                                               
proposed legislation  would support local governments  to address                                                               
community   and    economic   development   with    a   community                                                               
redevelopment tax incentive program.   He remarked that there are                                                               
no  current statutes  which allow  local  governments to  develop                                                               
methods  to  remediate properties.    He  advised that  with  the                                                               
proposed bill, vacant and underutilized  properties would be used                                                               
for  more productive  purposes,  and this  could increase  values                                                               
throughout the  community.  He  encouraged the committee  to pass                                                               
HB 84.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:52:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT asked for  examples of other states that                                                               
"do this" and she also inquired  as to how a community may define                                                               
"blighted."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN replied  he is aware of two places  which do this:                                                               
Washington,  DC,  and  Georgia.    In  response  to  a  follow-up                                                               
question, he  explained that the  way the bill is  structured, it                                                               
would be up to the community to define "blighted."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:54:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  asked if municipalities would  have the                                                               
option to  find revenue within its  budget because of the  gap in                                                               
its funding for the education  cap.  She questioned whether there                                                               
are parameters around this.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SUMNER responded  that currently  it is  required                                                               
that  [municipalities] fund  at the  minimum effort;  however, he                                                               
expressed  the  understanding  that  none are  doing  this.    He                                                               
continued  that municipalities  would  have to  find the  revenue                                                               
elsewhere, and  it is the same  with any amount of  tax abatement                                                               
which must be replaced with revenue from another source.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:57:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCCORMICK announced HB 84 was held over.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:57:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Community and Regional Affairs Standing Committee meeting was                                                                   
adjourned at 9:58 a.m.