HB 193-POLICE STANDARDS COUNCIL MEMBERSHIP  CHAIR MCGUIRE announced the consideration of HB 193. [Before the committee was CSHB 193(STA).] 9:55:09 AM REPRESENTATIVE BOB ROSES, Alaska State Legislature, said the original version took an 11-member board and removed a police chief and a commissioner and put in two line officers. He later discovered concern about those bumped off the board and was asked to expand the board to 13 members so no one would be removed. But the board would still have the ability to address his original concern of equability. The Police Standards Council is the only board that can suspend a license that doesn't have peer representation. That was the only intent for the bill. By adding two line officers and making it a 13-member board, the bill gained more support. The additional line officers will have to have five years of experience, be covered under the standards council, and would have to be police, probation, parole, municipal correction, or state correction officers. 9:57:36 AM CHAIR MCGUIRE asked about an amendment stating that it will be one police officer and the other would be a probation, parole, or corrections officer. REPRESENTATIVE ROSES said he will not object to it. SENATOR FRENCH said he sees a letter of support from the Police Standards Council. Good job. CHAIR MCGUIRE said this is the way to work a bill. 9:59:29 AM TERRY VRABEC, Executive Director, Alaska Police Standards Council, said there has been good work on HB 193. He has spoken with the president of the Alaska Association of Chiefs of Police and numerous others who support the new version of the bill. CHUCK KOPP, Kenai Police Department, said he is a past chair of the council. The composition of the council has been fair and balanced. There has never been opposition to an officer on the council. One has served as the public member for many years and did a great job. The opposition was only in inserting the labor component and speculating that the governor would consider officers nominated by labor organizations. "We didn't' want that to become a tool for labor management disputes." He now supports the bill because the labor language has been removed. 10:02:04 AM DAN HOFFMAN, Chief, Fairbanks Police, said he is the chair of the Alaska Police Standards Council. The council fully supports the bill in its current form. The council has never been opposed to having rank and file membership; it just didn't want a forum for labor disputes. SENATOR STEVENS said with the addition of two members, the fiscal note should have changed. SENATOR FRENCH moved to adopt the Senate committee substitute (CS) to HB 193, labeled 25-LS0712\E, as the working document. Hearing no objections Version E was before the committee. 10:03:58 AM CRYSTAL KOENEMAN, Staff to Representative Roses, said adding two members to the council will demand another fiscal note. SENATOR FRENCH asked the cost to run the Police Standards Council. MR. VRABEC said it is listed as a $10,000 increment. There are two to three meetings per year and travel costs are the only cost for the two new members. The budget derives out of surcharges, and it will not cause the council a hardship to incur that money for travel costs. CHAIR MCGUIRE offered conceptual Amendment 1 as follows: Page 1, Line 13 After "and" Insert "one serves as a police officer, and one serves as" CHAIR MCGUIRE said the two will represent roughly 50:50. She didn't want two police officers or two parole officers without representation of the other. SENATOR FRENCH suggested it should say: "one of whom" in both instances. CHAIR MCGUIRE said it is conceptual so the drafters will work it. The intent is to get one police officer and one in the other category. Hearing no objection, Amendment 1 carried. 10:07:08 AM SENATOR FRENCH moved to report the Senate CS to CSHB 193, as amended, from committee with individual recommendations and attached fiscal note(s). There being no objection, SCS CSHB 193(STA) passed out of committee.