CHAIRMAN RIEGER introduced HJR 36 (REPEAL OF 100-HOUR RULE FOR AFDC DC PROGRAMS) as the next order of business before the committee. ELMER LINDSTROM, Special Assistant in the Department of Health and Social Services (DHSS), stated that the department, specifically the Division of Public Assistance, supports HJR 36 in its current form. He noted that HJR 36 is consistent with other activities that DHSS and the Governor have undertaken in support of eliminating the 100-Hour Rule. REPRESENTATIVE BRICE, the primary sponsor, cited welfare reform as a savings of state money. He expressed the need to find ways to humanely transfer people off AFDC to become self-sufficient. In answer to Senator Leman, Representative Brice clarified that "remaining eligible" means remaining eligible for benefits for participation at the appropriate level. Number 466 SENATOR LEMAN referred to page 2 line 10 of the bill when asking if the program has an offsetting scale which would partially decrease the welfare benefit if the recipient is working a certain number of hours. ELMER LINDSTROM explained that this is a problem only for AFDC when both parents in the family are present, the AFDC Unemployed Parent portion. The one parent family situation is not covered in this bill. Currently, if one works more than 100 hours they receive no AFDC support. Elimination of the 100-Hour Program would allow people to take a lower paying job with the expectation of moving off welfare eventually while maintaining a reduced level of AFDC support. He said this could result in savings for the program. Mr. Lindstrom, in response to Senator Sharp, stated that AFDC is an income-needs based program, therefore assistance is dependent upon income and other resources of the recipient. SENATOR ELLIS referred to the welfare reform of three years ago; the federal law did not allow a one for one scheme working the person off public assistance. A one for one scheme reduces public assistance according to earnings, dollar for dollar. He cited the prohibition of persons with accumulated resources from public assistance as another disincentive of getting off welfare. He emphasized that the greatest disincentive of getting off welfare is the lack of health insurance in entry level jobs. Number 530 SENATOR MILLER moved that CSHJR 36 (HESS) be moved out of the Senate HESS committee with individual recommendations. Hearing no objections, it was so ordered.