The first order of business was SB 51 (WORK CAMPS FOR JUVENILE OFFENDERS). Chairman Rieger said the bill was held over from the February 24 meeting as Mr. James Poe was going to be in Juneau. Mr. Poe has considerable experience with work camps. JAMES POE, Deputy Chief Probation Officer, Probation Department, San Diego, California, said funding for camps in California comes from 58 counties. The state institutions are the last stage of custody. He said county camps are totally separate from the state. The ranch facilities in San Diego are in a very rural setting. There are work camps for adults and juveniles. Mr. Poe said currently he oversees all the juvenile institutions for the county which includes two work camps, a girls treatment facility, and a juvenile hall. He said in his county, kids are committed to the facilities for 240 days. He noted that they are kids that have probably been in the system for awhile. Once the kids are placed in the facilities, they go through a multiple step program of counseling, work, school, and recreation. Mr. Poe said the work component is one of four main components. It consists of on camp work jobs, vocational training work components, as well as working crews. He explained that the work crews provide services throughout the community, various county parks, state parks, and federal forestry parks. Mr. Poe referred to the adult work crews and said they are similar. There are two adult camps that do contract work. He noted it costs just under $500 a day, per crew, to contract work throughout the city, county and private entities. There being no further testimony on SB 51, SENATOR MILLER moved that SB 51 be passed out of the Senate HESS Committee with individual recommendations. There were objections. A roll call was taken. Senators Rieger, Sharp, Miller, and Leman voted "yes." Senators Ellis and Duncan voted "no." So the motion passed.