SENATE BILL NO. 51 "An Act extending the termination date of the Board of Veterinary Examiners; and providing for an effective date." 1:37:10 PM Co-Chair MacKinnon announced that a CS had already been adopted. 1:37:39 PM AT EASE 1:37:52 PM RECONVENED 1:37:57 PM LACEY SANDERS, ANALYST, LEGISLATIVE FINANCE DIVISION, (LFD) clarified some previous information provided by LFD. She announced that the fiscal note for extending the Board of Veterinarian Examiners reflected approximately $3600. The information presented previously contained additional information. The fiscal note only reflected board services and travel, but there were additional costs above those costs for the board of approximately $138,000. Those costs would be continued, even without the continuation of the board. She furthered that LFD provided a projection for the board continuation at the same level of spending and revenues. She stated that the projection showed the board in a deficit. She stressed that the LFD projection encouraged the division to provide additional information on their anticipated revenues would be for 2017, that deficit projection might contain an adjustment. Co-Chair MacKinnon wondered whether the actual cost was available. She recalled an increase from $300 to $500 for the licensees. She asked what the department had quantified for expenses, or was there a calendar and timing difference. She remarked that there had been an assertion that the state was using a fiscal year, and the department was using a calendar year because of the licensure requirements. Ms. Sanders deferred to the department. She shared that she was provided with information within the Professional Licensing Report to the Legislature, which was on a calendar year basis. She stated that the majority of the revenue would be collected during the current fiscal year. She could not speak to the department's expenditure projections for 2017. She remarked that the department was closely monitoring each board. Senator Olson queried a comparison to other board of comparable size and comparable licensee for the services, travel, and fixed costs. Ms. Sanders replied that she could not respond with a comparison, because she looked at the individual boards on a case by case basis. She stated that each board had its own set of licensees and their own sets of requirements. 1:42:39 PM SARA CHAMBERS, DEPUTY DIRECTOR, CORPORATIONS, BUSINESS, AND PROFESSIONAL LICENSING, DIVISION OF DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE, COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, introduced herself. Co-Chair MacKinnon queried the projected expenses to better understand the licensure and licensee deficits, and the strategy for reversing the deficits. Ms. Chambers replied that the licensing fee had increased for FY 17 for veterinarians from $300 to $500. She remarked that there were no anomalies with that increase. That board was fairly conservative, and comparable to other similar boards. She agreed to provide further information. Senator von Imhof wondered whether boards set their own fees based on their own determined expenses. Ms. Chambers responded that statute required each licensing program to pay 100 percent of its own expenses. She stated that there were 44 licensing programs in the division, with 21 of the boards rolled into the professional licensing fund source. She remarked that there was a partnership between each board and the division in allocating expenses. 1:45:20 PM Senator von Imhof wondered how the board would pay expenses during a time of board deficit reaction. Ms. Chambers replied that licensing programs ran on a biennial licensure cycle. She stated that almost every program would be in an annual deficit, because the funds would not be fulfilled in the given year. She furthered that the boards were able to roll forward any surplus. She announced that the goal was to identify a "sweet spot" of surplus that would carry over through the year without being exorbitant. Vice-Chair Bishop looked at the one previous fiscal note. Vice-Chair Bishop MOVED to REPORT CSSB 51 (FIN) out of committee with individual recommendations and attached fiscal note. There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered. CSSB 51 (FIN) was REPORTED out of committee with a "do pass" recommendation and with a previously published fiscal note: FN 1(CED). There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered. 1:49:13 PM AT EASE 1:51:22 PM RECONVENED