CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 24(JUD) "An Act relating to regulations; relating to administrative adjudications; amending Rule 65, Alaska Rules of Civil Procedure; and providing for an effective date." Senator Dave Donley moved for adoption of the CS SB 24 Version "V". Senator Al Adams objected for question. He felt bill should wait for similar bills. He noted SB 106, addressed the Department of Health and Social Services as one. He felt SB 24 should delete Department of Health and Social Services provisions and be handled under SB 106. After those comments, Senator Al Adams withdrew his objection. Senator Dave Donley said he thought the CS would address Senator Al Adams's concerns. It narrowed the applicability to just the Department of Natural Resources, Department of Fish and Game and Department of Environmental Conservation. Co-Chair John Torgerson detailed the changes in the CS. Section 16, which set the time limits, was covered in SB 106. Section 2 language was inserted, "except for designated state agencies". Subsection (b) addressed the cost and benefit requirement. His intent was that if a fiscal note were passed with a bill that was not substantial changed by the adoption of the regulation the fiscal note would work as the cost benefit analysis. The fiscal note would then be included in the explanation in the public release of the regulation. If the Legislature passed a law, it was therefore determined through the process whether or not the benefits were to the public's best interest. To then require the Administration to do a cost benefit analysis on those regulations would be duplication. The intent was to lessen the amount of work required of the agencies Section 9 was language dealing another section and would probably be amended out. On page 7 the remainder of the sentence regarding good faith attempt on line 3 was removed. It could be hard to defend in court what a good faith attempt was. Section 16, the time limit section, might be the same that Senator Robin Taylor was attempting with SB 106. Senator Al Adams requested comments from the departments on this section. Section 17 was new and defined "designated agencies". This CS would only apply to the Department of Environmental Conservation, Department of Natural Resources and the Division of Habitat and Restoration, Department of Fish and Game. It did not include any functions controlled by a board or commission and it did not include an organizational entity whose members were confirmed by the Legislature. Senator Dave Donley liked the CS with the exception of Section 8. He didn't feel it would give the public appropriate notice of what the department intended to adopt in regulations. He asked if the CS could be adopted without that section. He said the original intent of the bill was to give clear notice to the public of the actual regulation the agencies were going to adopt. He felt the changes in Section 8 went against that. He wanted to see the fiscal notes reflecting the exclusion of Section 8. Senator Dave Donley moved to amend CS SB 24 Version "V" to delete Section 8 (Amendment #10). Without objection, it was adopted. CS SB 101 Version "V" as amended was adopted as a Workdraft without objection. Senator Randy Phillips asked if the number of fiscal notes would be reduced. Co-Chair John Torgerson liked what the sponsor was doing but needed to limit the amount of the fiscal notes. That was why he narrowed the focus down three programs. The bill was held in committee.