SB 141-PUBLIC EMPLOYEE/TEACHER RETIREMENT/BOARDS  CHAIR LYDA GREEN called the meeting to order at 1:59:25 PM. All members were present. She announced that members signed the message to the presiding officers informing them that committee members did not come to agreement. The letter also contained the points that members agreed upon. 1:59:56 PM CHAIR GREEN drew members' attention to four items that her staff and Representative Seaton's staff identified as additional items left open for future discussion: Line 14(a), which was accidentally omitted yesterday Line 18 - members' discussion went in two directions yesterday, neither of which was 100 percent factually correct. Line 22 (a) - although members did discuss different links of service of the retirement and benefit board members, the staggered terms were not. Line 39 - the Senate version had funding for the PERS/TRS shortfall for one year for participating employers, which was zeroed out in the House. CHAIR GREEN informed members that a packet of fiscal notes was distributed, which needs to move with the bill. She added, "As we have other things subject to negotiation that affect the fiscal notes, we probably should just leave those open and say they are subject to the final free conference." 2:02:35 PM REPRESENTATIVE WEYHRAUCH asked if members talked about staggered terms - line 22 (a) - but not in the context of a specific line item. CHAIR GREEN said members talked about the different term lengths in the House and Senate versions so line 22(a) is better left open. 2:03:04 PM SENATOR SEEKINS said at yesterday's meeting he was assuming that a staggered term process was in place. REPRESENTATIVE SEATON noted the only difference in the versions is that the terms for the two PERS and TRS members and two financial officers are specified in statute in the House version. 2:03:45 PM SENATOR SEEKINS moved that the conference committee accept the corrected report dated May 8, 2005 prepared by the Senate Finance Committee entitled, SB 141 Differences Between Senate and House as the outline of the specific points of difference between the two bodies. REPRESENTATIVE WEYHRAUCH objected and stated, "One thing I'd like to do is - and I will remove my objection - is since I just got this this morning, between now and next time we meet just look at that and if I see an issue that we didn't take care of, I reserve the right to bring it in if there's something on here. I'm sure the staff did a perfect job but - I'll remove my objection." REPRESENTATIVE SEATON objected and said, " I didn't get a chance to mention that I think - I mean we're talking about fiscal note number 9 at this point. I think we're talking about all of the fiscal notes. I believe your fiscal note number 8 establishes the 69.5 and ours was fiscal note number 9 that zeroed it out but just to note, it would be 8 and 9." SENATOR SEEKINS said he would be more amendable to saying the two bodies disagree on the fiscal notes rather than addressing dollar amounts. REPRESENTATIVE SEATON removed his objection. CHAIR GREEN thanked members for making great headway on the agreed upon items and said it is time to go to the next level. She announced that with no further objection, the motion carried. REPRESENTATIVE SEATON asked that the motion be clarified. SENATOR SEEKINS stated, "[Uniform] Rule 42 provides that we are to notify both of our houses with a report listing the specific points of disagreement. This is the list of the specific points of disagreement." REPRESENTATIVE SEATON asked if submission of the list amounts to a request for limited powers of free conference. CHAIR GREEN said it would imply that committee members have gone as far as they can go. REPRESENTATIVE SEATON asked if, by submitting the letter, committee members were informing both bodies of the list and requesting limited powers. CHAIR GREEN clarified that members are requesting free conference committee powers. The committee took an at-ease. 2:12:16 PM CHAIR GREEN recessed to a call of the chair.