HB 100: PROSECUTION OF JUVENILE FELONS TAPE 93-43, SIDE A Number 000 DEAN GUANELI, ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL, CRIMINAL DIVISION, DEPARTMENT OF LAW (DOL), said that this was the second time he had testified before the committee on the issue of juvenile waivers. The first time, he said, he had addressed Representative Con Bunde's juvenile waiver bill, HB 100, and had urged that the committee members look very closely at specific offenses for which an automatic waiver into adult court was being proposed. He said that when he had last testified on juvenile waivers, the governor's juvenile waiver bill had not yet been introduced. MR. GUANELI said that the governor's juvenile waiver bill had since been introduced. That bill, he noted, took a narrower approach to juvenile waivers than did SB 54 and HB 100, at the urging of the Department of Health and Social Services (DHSS). MR. GUANELI commented that the juvenile justice system was based on a presumption that many juvenile offenders were treatable, very quickly, under the juvenile system. He expressed his opinion that that presumption was not valid in all cases, particularly with regard to murder offenses. The juvenile justice system could, in his opinion, better deal with most offenses other than murder. He added that the DHSS shared that opinion. MR. GUANELI mentioned that DOL and DHSS officials were concerned that some 16- and 17-year-olds would be receiving presumptive sentences in adult court. He noted that judges already experienced a great deal of difficulty when handing down presumptive sentences for 18- and 19-year-olds. He again urged the committee to look carefully at which crimes they wished to include in a juvenile waiver bill. Number 126 REPRESENTATIVE JAMES returned to the committee at 3:26 p.m. MR. GUANELI mentioned that if a 17-year-old sold drugs to a 13-year-old, and drug selling offenses were included in a juvenile waiver law, that 17-year-old would be subject to a mandatory minimum 5-year jail sentence. He mentioned other crimes which carried mandatory, stiff jail sentences. He questioned whether the committee felt that these mandatory sentences were appropriate for juvenile offenders. MR. GUANELI appreciated Senator Halford's comment regarding prosecutors' discretion to charge juveniles with lesser offenses in order to get those juveniles out of the adult justice system. However, he noted that if the law dictated that a certain type of conduct, committed under certain circumstances, ought to be punished in a certain way, it was his belief that it would be undesirable for prosecutors to be intentionally undercutting the law. MR. GUANELI stated that the committee should look into the effect on the Department of Corrections (DOC) of a broadly- written juvenile waiver bill. If the bill only applied to murder cases, he said, the DOC would only receive a handful of new prisoners. But, he said, a broader juvenile waiver bill would result in more new prisoners for the DOC to manage. He questioned whether the DOC would be able to handle several dozen additional offenders every year. MR. GUANELI understood that the DOC currently experienced difficulty in segregating various segments of the prison population, including pre-trial offenders, female prisoners, and mentally-ill prisoners. He questioned whether the DOC was the best agency for dealing with a large number of very young offenders. Mr. Guaneli reiterated his recommendation that the committee study the issue of juvenile waivers very carefully.