HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE APRIL 2, 1993 10:00 A.M. TAPE HFC 93 - 91, Side 1, #000 - end. TAPE HFC 93 - 91, Side 2, #000 - end. TAPE HFC 93 - 92, Side 1, #000 - end. TAPE HFC 93 - 92, Side 2, #000 - #257. CALL TO ORDER Co-Chair Ron Larson called the meeting of the House Finance Committee to order at 10:00 A.M. PRESENT Co-Chair Larson Representative Brown Co-Chair MacLean Representative Foster Vice-Chair Hanley Representative Grussendorf Representative Hoffman Representative Martin Representative Navarre Representative Parnell Representative Therriault ALSO PRESENT Representative Gail Phillips; Senator Dave Donley; Paul Fuhs, Commissioner, Department of Commerce and Economic Development; Representative Ramona Barnes; Representative Carl Moses; Representative Eldon Mulder; Jan Hansen, Director, Adult Public Assistance, Department of Health and Social Services; Rose Palmquist, (teleconference), Anchorage, Alaska; Ida McMahon, (teleconference), Anchorage, Alaska; Penny Griffin, (teleconference), Anchorage, Alaska; John Lopez, (teleconference), Anchorage, Alaska; Greg Wakefield (teleconference) Anchorage, Alaska; Gina Kaiser, (teleconference), Anchorage, Alaska; Sherry Goll, Alaska Women's Lobby, Juneau, Alaska; Mary Guthrie, Alaska Native Sisterhood (ANS), Grand Camp President, Klawock, Alaska; Barbara Lewis, Alaska Native Sisterhood, Haines, Alaska; Jenny Bell, Director, AWARE, ANS, Juneau, Alaska. SUMMARY INFORMATION HB 59 An Act making a special appropriation to the Department of Natural Resources for refunds to certain veterans who purchased state land and for reimbursement to the University of Alaska for the veterans' land discount applied to land transferred to the University of Alaska; and providing for an effective date. 1 CS HB 59 was reported out of Committee with a "do pass" recommendation. HB 168 An Act relating to multiple-beneficiary charitable gaming permits and door prizes for charitable gaming; and providing for an effective date. HB 168 was placed in Subcommittee with Chair Representative Parnell and with members Representative Hanley and Representative Brown. The bill was held for further discussion. HB 67 An Act relating to eligibility for and payments of public assistance; and providing for an effective date. CS HB 67 (FIN) was reported out of Committee with "no recommendations" and with nine fiscal notes by the Department of Health and Social Services. HOUSE BILL 168 "An Act relating to multiple-beneficiary charitable gaming permits and door prizes for charitable gaming; and providing for an effective date." JOHN LOPEZ, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), ANCHORAGE, ALASKA, spoke in opposition to the legislation given the impact of the legislation. He stated that real estate would be vacated and noted the lost taxes which the State would experience. ROSE PALMQUIST, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), MATSU, ALASKA, spoke in support of the legislation and felt that the State would be able to better audit gaming. GREG WAKEFIELD, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), ANCHORAGE, ALASKA, spoke in opposition to the legislation. He felt that there would serious ramifications for charities and gaming organizations with the passage of the legislation. He asked for further consideration of the bill. IDA MCMAHON, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), MATSU, ALASKA, spoke in opposition to the legislation. GINA KAISER, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), ASSOCIATION FOR RETARDED CITIZENS - ANCHORAGE (ARCA), ALASKA, asked for more time to consider the legislation and work draft. PAUL FUHS, COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT (DCED), provided the Committee with handouts. [Attachments #1 and #2]. He asked that the Committee to 2 consider amendments made to the House Judiciary Committee version pointing out that original law was intended to benefit charities. At this time, there is an increasing diversion of funds from charities to political purposes and lobbyists. DCED would like to see more of the funds from charitable gaming going to charities. The Senate committee substitute would place 10% into a bingo fund and 30% for pull tab contributions which would establish the 40% regulatory figures, doubling the amount of money going to charities. Commissioner Fuhs requested the Committee to adopt the Senate committee substitute. REPRESENTATIVE RAMONA BARNES interjected that the Governor did not support the Senate committee substitute. Representative Brown asked the Administration's philosophy regarding charitable gaming political contributions. She thought that political candidates depending on direct corporate contributions from other organized interest groups would provide more opportunity for illegal pressure. Commissioner Fuhs stated that the Department believes it is wrong to combine gambling and government and pointed out that the money for charitable gaming is being diverted from charitable purposes and used for political interests creating a conflict of interest. He noted that of the net proceeds, ten percent of funds are currently going to campaign contributions. SENATOR DAVE DONLEY spoke to the Senate Judiciary committee substitute. He advised that the full Senate Judiciary Committee was not given the version referenced by Commissioner Fuhs. That version contains new expansion proposals from the original bill. He recommended that the House Finance Committee be cautious in adopting the proposed legislation. (Tape Change, HFC 93-91, Side 2). PENNY GRIFFIN, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), MATSU, ALASKA, asked for more time for consideration of the bill. Co-Chair Larson placed HB 168 in Subcommittee with Chair Representative Parnell and members Representative Hanley and Representative Brown. The bill was HELD in Committee for further discussion. HOUSE BILL 59 "An Act making a special appropriation to the Department of Natural Resources for refunds to certain veterans who purchased state land and for reimbursement to the University of Alaska for the veterans' land 3 discount applied to land transferred to the University of Alaska; and providing for an effective date." REPRESENTATIVE ELDON MULDER spoke in favor of HB 59. He stated that in 1978, the Land Discount Program was created by the Tenth Legislature. The program granted eligible persons a discount on the purchase price of land sold for residential use. The discount amounted to a percentage of the price of the land for each full year that the purchaser had been a resident of the state. The discount was limited to 50% or $25 thousand dollars, whichever was less. To be eligible, a person must have been physically present in the state for at least 12 months. The program was amended in 1979 to increase the discount for eligible veterans. Under the amended program, a veteran could receive a discount which was limited to 75% or $37.5 thousand dollars, whichever was less. He noted that a problem arose with veterans who had purchased land from the State between April 1, 1983 and July 6, 1984. These veterans had not been granted any discount at all, due to the fact that the program was not being implemented then and the new program did not go into effect until July 6, 1984. In an effort to correct the inequity, the Sixteenth Legislature passed CS HB 134 (RES) which made the current veterans land benefit effective retroactively to April 1, 1983 when DNR stopped the implementation of the former discount program. HB 176 provides an appropriation to cover previous legislation. The bill provides a special appropriation to the Department of Natural Resources for refunds to veterans who purchased state land between April 1, 1983 and July 6, 1984. It also reimburses the University of Alaska for the veterans' land discount that applied to land that was transferred to the University of Alaska. Co-Chair MacLean MOVED to report CS HB 59 (MLV) out of Committee with individual recommendations. There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered. CS HB 59 (MLV) was reported out of Committee with a "do pass" recommendation. HOUSE BILL 67 "An Act relating to eligibility for and payments of public assistance; and providing for an effective date." Representative Brown WITHDREW the previous amendment which 4 she provided at the last meeting. There being NO OBJECTION, it was withdrawn. She provided the Committee with three new amendments. [Attachment #3 - #5]. SHERRY GOLL, ALASKA WOMEN'S LOBBY, JUNEAU, ALASKA, provided the Committee with information regarding how other states gauge decisions relating to COLA. Alaska's automatic COLA is an unique program but not unusual in trying to keep payments level with the inflation factor. In 1992, there were seven other states which increased their payment level due to inflation. Alaska 2.8% Arizona & Hawaii 4% Washington 3% Alabama 10% She noted in twenty-seven other states there are two optional programs not existing in Alaska. These states "special needs" include: 1. High shelter costs; 2. High fuel or utility costs; 3. Burial costs; 4. Clothing; 5. Expenses due to natural disasters or eviction. Ms. Goll added, thirty states operate "emergency assistance" programs designed to provide short term cash aid to house holds in crisis. Emergency assistance payments are used for such purposes as preventing eviction by paying rent arrears, preventing utility shot off by paying past due utility bills, deposits, repair replacements, and enabling homeless families to move to an apartment. States set their own budget priorities. These priorities can reflect a commitment to protecting their poorest residents from large cuts or they can plunge those whose incomes already fail to meet society's standard for a minimal level of subsistence still deeper into poverty. The federal government has followed the explicit principle of putting such cuts off limits, and in 1985, most major low-income benefit programs were exempted from the across the board cuts triggered under the Gramm-Rudman-Hollings balanced budget act when deficit targets are missed. Co-Chair Larson questioned the State's responsibility to those persons on AFDC who misuse their state money. Ms. Goll stated that concern would be dealt with by the Department of Health and Social Services. 5 JAN HANSEN, DIRECTOR, ADULT PUBLIC ASSISTANCE, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES, commented that the majority of the persons on AFDC and APA are using their monthly checks appropriately. She stated that the Department does not do anything to determine how the allowance is used. The program is there to foster responsibility in individuals for managing their lives and money. She felt that there was little abuse of the money, as the Department is trying to operate the most cost effective program. Discussion followed regarding the possibilities establishing additional systems which would be more effective. Ms. Hansen noted that the primary strategy has been to cut costs by creating a rigorous eligibility program. Co-Chair MacLean questioned the impact of the proposed amendments to the legislation. Ms. Hansen addressed Amendment #2, Attachment #4, which would establish a minimum floor from which AFDC payments would not fall. This payment would be determined as a percentage of the federal poverty guideline. (Tape Change, HFC 93-92, Side 1). Ms. Hansen stated the poverty guideline in the federal statutes at this time would provide the Alaskan AFDC claim 81% of the poverty level. The bill would provide a floor of 75%. She continued, for the Adult Public Assistance, the poverty guideline for one person is $725 dollars per month. The payment made at the FY 92 level would be 108% of the federally established poverty level. Ms. Hansen pointed out that Amendment #4, the COLA provisions in current statute remain with the exception of an appropriation made specifically for it. The language states that the state "shall" award the COLA if the federal government makes an increase subject to appropriation funds. The Committee discussed if Amendment #2 or Amendment #4 would be best for the poor of the State while maintaining the budgetary cap and economic development in rural areas. Representative Brown reiterated that the APA program often suffices as the rural Alaskan retirement program because those people worked at jobs in which retirement benefits were not available. She urged the Committee not to cut the COLA adjustments for the poorest. An APA recipient often pays 70% of their income for rent. Representative Brown requested the Committee to adopt Amendment #2 and Amendment MARY GUTHRIE, ALASKA NATIVE SISTERHOOD, KLAWOCK, ALASKA, 6 spoke in opposition to HB 67. She noted her concern with alleviating the COLA for the Adult Public Assistance. BARBARA C. LEWIS, ALASKA NATIVE SISTERHOOD, HAINES, ALASKA, spoke in opposition to HB 67, representing the small rural minority areas. (Tape Change, HFC 93-92, Side 2). JENNY BELL, DIRECTOR, AWARE, CAMP - 2, ALASKA NATIVE SISTERHOOD, JUNEAU, ALASKA, noted that subsistence was the pension plan for the older rural Alaskans. She spoke in opposition to HB 67. She urged the Committee to consider other solutions than cutting the COLA and instead offering incentive programs to help the poor. Representative Brown MOVED Amendment #2. Co-Chair Larson OBJECTED for further discussion. Representative Therriault OBJECTED. A roll call was taken on the MOTION. IN FAVOR: Brown, Foster, Grussendorf, Hoffman, Martin, Navarre, Larson, MacLean. OPPOSED: Therriault, Parnell. Representative Hanley was not present for the vote. The MOTION PASSED, (8-2). Representative Hoffman MOVED Amendment #4. Representative Martin OBJECTED. A roll call was taken on the MOTION. IN FAVOR: Brown, Foster, Grussendorf, Hoffman, Navarre, Parnell, Therriault, MacLean. OPPOSED: Martin, Larson. The MOTION PASSED, (8-2). Representative Hoffman MOVED to report CS HB 67 (FIN) out of Committee with individual recommendations and with the accompanying fiscal notes. There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered. CS HB 67 (FIN) was reported out of Committee with "individual recommendations" and with nine fiscal notes by the Department of Health and Social Services. 7 ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at 12:37 P.M. HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE APRIL 3, 1993 10:00 A.M. TAPE HFC 93 - 91, Side 1, #000 - end. TAPE HFC 93 - 91, Side 2, #000 - end. TAPE HFC 93 - 92, Side 1, #000 - end. TAPE HFC 93 - 92, Side 2, #000 - #257. CALL TO ORDER Co-Chair Ron Larson called the meeting of the House Finance Committee to order at 10:00 A.M. PRESENT Co-Chair Larson Representative Brown Co-Chair MacLean Representative Foster Vice-Chair Hanley Representative Grussendorf Representative Hoffman Representative Martin Representative Navarre Representative Parnell Representative Therriault ALSO PRESENT Representative Gail Phillips; Senator Dave Donley; Paul Fuhs, Commissioner, Department of Commerce and Economic Development; Representative Ramona Barnes; Representative Carl Moses; Representative Eldon Mulder; Jan Hansen, Director, Adult Public Assistance, Department of Health and Social Services; Rose Palmquist, (teleconference), Anchorage, Alaska; Ida McMahon, (teleconference), Anchorage, Alaska; Penny Griffin, (teleconference), Anchorage, Alaska; John Lopez, (teleconference), Anchorage, Alaska; Greg Wakefield (teleconference) Anchorage, Alaska; Gina Kaiser, (teleconference), Anchorage, Alaska; Sherry Goll, Alaska Women's Lobby, Juneau, Alaska; Mary Guthrie, Alaska Native Sisterhood (ANS), Grand Camp President, Klawock, Alaska; Barbara Lewis, Alaska Native Sisterhood, Haines, Alaska; Jenny Bell, Director, AWARE, ANS, Juneau, Alaska. SUMMARY INFORMATION HB 59 An Act making a special appropriation to the Department of Natural Resources for refunds to certain veterans who purchased state land and for reimbursement to the University of Alaska for the 8 veterans' land discount applied to land transferred to the University of Alaska; and providing for an effective date. CS HB 59 was reported out of Committee with a "do pass" recommendation. HB 168 An Act relating to multiple-beneficiary charitable gaming permits and door prizes for charitable gaming; and providing for an effective date. HB 168 was placed in Subcommittee with Chair Representative Parnell and with members Representative Hanley and Representative Brown. The bill was held for further discussion. HB 67 An Act relating to eligibility for and payments of public assistance; and providing for an effective date. CS HB 67 (FIN) was reported out of Committee with "no recommendations" and with nine fiscal notes by the Department of Health and Social Services. HOUSE BILL 168 "An Act relating to multiple-beneficiary charitable gaming permits and door prizes for charitable gaming; and providing for an effective date." JOHN LOPEZ, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), ANCHORAGE, ALASKA, spoke in opposition to the legislation given the impact of the legislation. He stated that real estate would be vacated and noted the lost taxes which the State would experience. ROSE PALMQUIST, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), MATSU, ALASKA, spoke in support of the legislation and felt that the State would be able to better audit gaming. GREG WAKEFIELD, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), ANCHORAGE, ALASKA, spoke in opposition to the legislation. He felt that there would serious ramifications for charities and gaming organizations with the passage of the legislation. He asked for further consideration of the bill. IDA MCMAHON, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), MATSU, ALASKA, spoke in opposition to the legislation. GINA KAISER, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), ASSOCIATION FOR RETARDED CITIZENS - ANCHORAGE (ARCA), ALASKA, asked for more time to consider the legislation and work draft. 9 PAUL FUHS, COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT (DCED), provided the Committee with handouts. [Attachments #1 and #2]. He asked that the Committee to consider amendments made to the House Judiciary Committee version pointing out that original law was intended to benefit charities. At this time, there is an increasing diversion of funds from charities to political purposes and lobbyists. DCED would like to see more of the funds from charitable gaming going to charities. The Senate committee substitute would place 10% into a bingo fund and 30% for pull tab contributions which would establish the 40% regulatory figures, doubling the amount of money going to charities. Commissioner Fuhs requested the Committee to adopt the Senate committee substitute. REPRESENTATIVE RAMONA BARNES interjected that the Governor did not support the Senate committee substitute. Representative Brown asked the Administration's philosophy regarding charitable gaming political contributions. She thought that political candidates depending on direct corporate contributions from other organized interest groups would provide more opportunity for illegal pressure. Commissioner Fuhs stated that the Department believes it is wrong to combine gambling and government and pointed out that the money for charitable gaming is being diverted from charitable purposes and used for political interests creating a conflict of interest. He noted that of the net proceeds, ten percent of funds are currently going to campaign contributions. SENATOR DAVE DONLEY spoke to the Senate Judiciary committee substitute. He advised that the full Senate Judiciary Committee was not given the version referenced by Commissioner Fuhs. That version contains new expansion proposals from the original bill. He recommended that the House Finance Committee be cautious in adopting the proposed legislation. (Tape Change, HFC 93-91, Side 2). PENNY GRIFFIN, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), MATSU, ALASKA, asked for more time for consideration of the bill. Co-Chair Larson placed HB 168 in Subcommittee with Chair Representative Parnell and members Representative Hanley and Representative Brown. The bill was HELD in Committee for further discussion. HOUSE BILL 59 10 "An Act making a special appropriation to the Department of Natural Resources for refunds to certain veterans who purchased state land and for reimbursement to the University of Alaska for the veterans' land discount applied to land transferred to the University of Alaska; and providing for an effective date." REPRESENTATIVE ELDON MULDER spoke in favor of HB 59. He stated that in 1978, the Land Discount Program was created by the Tenth Legislature. The program granted eligible persons a discount on the purchase price of land sold for residential use. The discount amounted to a percentage of the price of the land for each full year that the purchaser had been a resident of the state. The discount was limited to 50% or $25 thousand dollars, whichever was less. To be eligible, a person must have been physically present in the state for at least 12 months. The program was amended in 1979 to increase the discount for eligible veterans. Under the amended program, a veteran could receive a discount which was limited to 75% or $37.5 thousand dollars, whichever was less. He noted that a problem arose with veterans who had purchased land from the State between April 1, 1983 and July 6, 1984. These veterans had not been granted any discount at all, due to the fact that the program was not being implemented then and the new program did not go into effect until July 6, 1984. In an effort to correct the inequity, the Sixteenth Legislature passed CS HB 134 (RES) which made the current veterans land benefit effective retroactively to April 1, 1983 when DNR stopped the implementation of the former discount program. HB 176 provides an appropriation to cover previous legislation. The bill provides a special appropriation to the Department of Natural Resources for refunds to veterans who purchased state land between April 1, 1983 and July 6, 1984. It also reimburses the University of Alaska for the veterans' land discount that applied to land that was transferred to the University of Alaska. Co-Chair MacLean MOVED to report CS HB 59 (MLV) out of Committee with individual recommendations. There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered. CS HB 59 (MLV) was reported out of Committee with a "do pass" recommendation. HOUSE BILL 67 "An Act relating to eligibility for and payments of 11 public assistance; and providing for an effective date." Representative Brown WITHDREW the previous amendment which she provided at the last meeting. There being NO OBJECTION, it was withdrawn. She provided the Committee with three new amendments. [Attachment #3 - #5]. SHERRY GOLL, ALASKA WOMEN'S LOBBY, JUNEAU, ALASKA, provided the Committee with information regarding how other states gauge decisions relating to COLA. Alaska's automatic COLA is an unique program but not unusual in trying to keep payments level with the inflation factor. In 1992, there were seven other states which increased their payment level due to inflation. Alaska 2.8% Arizona & Hawaii 4% Washington 3% Alabama 10% She noted in twenty-seven other states there are two optional programs not existing in Alaska. These states "special needs" include: 1. High shelter costs; 2. High fuel or utility costs; 3. Burial costs; 4. Clothing; 5. Expenses due to natural disasters or eviction. Ms. Goll added, thirty states operate "emergency assistance" programs designed to provide short term cash aid to house holds in crisis. Emergency assistance payments are used for such purposes as preventing eviction by paying rent arrears, preventing utility shot off by paying past due utility bills, deposits, repair replacements, and enabling homeless families to move to an apartment. States set their own budget priorities. These priorities can reflect a commitment to protecting their poorest residents from large cuts or they can plunge those whose incomes already fail to meet society's standard for a minimal level of subsistence still deeper into poverty. The federal government has followed the explicit principle of putting such cuts off limits, and in 1985, most major low-income benefit programs were exempted from the across the board cuts triggered under the Gramm-Rudman-Hollings balanced budget act when deficit targets are missed. Co-Chair Larson questioned the State's responsibility to 12 those persons on AFDC who misuse their state money. Ms. Goll stated that concern would be dealt with by the Department of Health and Social Services. JAN HANSEN, DIRECTOR, ADULT PUBLIC ASSISTANCE, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES, commented that the majority of the persons on AFDC and APA are using their monthly checks appropriately. She stated that the Department does not do anything to determine how the allowance is used. The program is there to foster responsibility in individuals for managing their lives and money. She felt that there was little abuse of the money, as the Department is trying to operate the most cost effective program. Discussion followed regarding the possibilities establishing additional systems which would be more effective. Ms. Hansen noted that the primary strategy has been to cut costs by creating a rigorous eligibility program. Co-Chair MacLean questioned the impact of the proposed amendments to the legislation. Ms. Hansen addressed Amendment #2, Attachment #4, which would establish a minimum floor from which AFDC payments would not fall. This payment would be determined as a percentage of the federal poverty guideline. (Tape Change, HFC 93-92, Side 1). Ms. Hansen stated the poverty guideline in the federal statutes at this time would provide the Alaskan AFDC claim 81% of the poverty level. The bill would provide a floor of 75%. She continued, for the Adult Public Assistance, the poverty guideline for one person is $725 dollars per month. The payment made at the FY 92 level would be 108% of the federally established poverty level. Ms. Hansen pointed out that Amendment #4, the COLA provisions in current statute remain with the exception of an appropriation made specifically for it. The language states that the state "shall" award the COLA if the federal government makes an increase subject to appropriation funds. The Committee discussed if Amendment #2 or Amendment #4 would be best for the poor of the State while maintaining the budgetary cap and economic development in rural areas. Representative Brown reiterated that the APA program often suffices as the rural Alaskan retirement program because those people worked at jobs in which retirement benefits were not available. She urged the Committee not to cut the COLA adjustments for the poorest. An APA recipient often pays 70% of their income for rent. Representative Brown 13 requested the Committee to adopt Amendment #2 and Amendment MARY GUTHRIE, ALASKA NATIVE SISTERHOOD, KLAWOCK, ALASKA, spoke in opposition to HB 67. She noted her concern with alleviating the COLA for the Adult Public Assistance. BARBARA C. LEWIS, ALASKA NATIVE SISTERHOOD, HAINES, ALASKA, spoke in opposition to HB 67, representing the small rural minority areas. (Tape Change, HFC 93-92, Side 2). JENNY BELL, DIRECTOR, AWARE, CAMP - 2, ALASKA NATIVE SISTERHOOD, JUNEAU, ALASKA, noted that subsistence was the pension plan for the older rural Alaskans. She spoke in opposition to HB 67. She urged the Committee to consider other solutions than cutting the COLA and instead offering incentive programs to help the poor. Representative Brown MOVED Amendment #2. Co-Chair Larson OBJECTED for further discussion. Representative Therriault OBJECTED. A roll call was taken on the MOTION. IN FAVOR: Brown, Foster, Grussendorf, Hoffman, Martin, Navarre, Larson, MacLean. OPPOSED: Therriault, Parnell. Representative Hanley was not present for the vote. The MOTION PASSED, (8-2). Representative Hoffman MOVED Amendment #4. Representative Martin OBJECTED. A roll call was taken on the MOTION. IN FAVOR: Brown, Foster, Grussendorf, Hoffman, Navarre, Parnell, Therriault, MacLean. OPPOSED: Martin, Larson. The MOTION PASSED, (8-2). Representative Hoffman MOVED to report CS HB 67 (FIN) out of Committee with individual recommendations and with the accompanying fiscal notes. There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered. 14 CS HB 67 (FIN) was reported out of Committee with "individual recommendations" and with nine fiscal notes by the Department of Health and Social Services. ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at 12:37 P.M. 15