HOUSE BILL NO. 151 "An Act relating to payment by indigent persons for legal services and related costs; and providing for an effective date." House Bill 151 was in a subcommittee consisting of Chair Representative Hanley with members Representatives Parnell, 6 MacLean and Hoffman. Representative Hanley explained changes made by the subcommittee. Changes were made to ensure that indigent people would not be charged for facilities not paid for by non-indigent. Co-Chair Larson MOVED to ADOPT, Work Draft 8-LS061\J, dated 33/17/93. Members discussed the meaning of "facilities". There being NO OBJECTION, Work Draft 8-LS061\J, dated 33/17/93 was adopted. ARTHUR H. SNOWDEN, II, ADMINISTRATIVE DIRECTOR, ALASKA COURT SYSTEM explained the Supreme Court asked that legislation be introduced to recover costs incurred by indigent. He asserted that indigent are protected by language in the legislation allowing deferment for "manifest hardship." The Court maintains that "upon the person's conviction" should be deleted. Representative Hanley pointed out that enforcement of judgments can be stayed. He emphasized that extra protection has been added for indigent people. Representative Brown stressed that the provision which would delay repayment for three years after incarceration has been deleted. She asked if persons should have more time to reestablish themselves after release. She emphasized the difficulty of individuals to transition back into society. Mr. Snowden noted that some individuals will only serve 30 to 90 days. He stressed that the collection delay would cause difficulties in the Department of Law. He maintained that some individuals may have money at the time of trail that is hidden from the court. Representative Therriault stressed that due to civil exclusion a judge could not go after an individuals "last penny". He felt that there is no reason the State should wait three years to recoup the costs of some one who spent 30 days in jail for a DWI. Representative Grussendorf spoke in support of maintaining "upon the person's conviction". Mr. Snowden clarified, in response to a question from Representative Parnell, that a "no contest" plea would be considered a conviction in regards to cost recover. Representative Navarre MOVED to TABLE CSHB 151 (FIN). Representative Martin OBJECTED. Representative Navarre WITHDREW HIS MOTION. Representative Brown MOVED to TABLE 7 CSHB 151 (FIN). A roll call vote was taken on the motion. IN FAVOR: Grussendorf, Navarre, Foster, Hanley, Martin, Parnell, Therriault MacLean, Larson OPPOSED: Brown Representative Hoffman was absent from the vote. The MOTION FAILED (9-1). Representative Martin MOVED to report CSHB 151 (FIN) out of Committee with individual recommendations and with the accompanying fiscal notes. Representative Brown OBJECTED. A roll call vote was taken on the motion. IN FAVOR: Grussendorf, Navarre, Foster, Hanley, Martin, Parnell, Therriault MacLean, Larson OPPOSED: Brown Representative Hoffman was absent from the vote. The MOTION FAILED (9-1). CSHB 151 (FIN) was reported out of Committee with a "do pass" recommendation and with a zero fiscal note by the Alaska Court System, dated 2/24/93 and with two zero fiscal notes by the Department of Administration and with a fiscal impact note by the Department of Law.