SJR 4-AK LEGALLY ACQUIRED IVORY USE EXEMPTION  8:06:16 AM CO-CHAIR ZULKOSKY announced that the first order of business would be CS FOR SENATE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 4(RES), Urging the United States Congress to pass legislation providing for the exemption of legally acquired walrus, mammoth, and mastodon ivory from laws that ban the sale, use, and possession of ivory. 8:06:52 AM CO-CHAIR PARISH moved to adopt [Conceptual] Amendment 1, to CSSJR 4(RES), to change "Alaska artist" to "Alaskan artist" on page 1, line 14, and page 2, lines 6 and 11. He then objected for purposes of explanation. 8:07:25 AM The committee took an at-ease from 8:07 a.m. to 8:16 a.m. 8:16:43 AM CO-CHAIR PARISH restated the motion to adopt Conceptual Amendment 1. 8:17:11 AM REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND objected. CO-CHAIR PARISH offered his understanding that Conceptual Amendment 1 would bring the proposed legislation in line with common language usage. He opined that one can find work by Alaskan artists; to say Alaska artists would be "unusual." He said he had spoken with staff in the sponsor's office before he considered offering the amendment. 8:18:39 AM REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND, regarding the choice between "Alaska" or "Alaskan," cited the University of Alaska (UAF) style manual. She read: "Alaskan is a noun describing a person, not a place. It is never an Alaskan city, for example." She said the example sentence read, "The professors are longtime Alaskans." She continued: "When you're not using Alaska as a proper noun, use it as an adjective to describe things. Lots of us who live in Alaska love to eat Alaska salmon and berries." She highlighted all the correct usages of Alaska as an adjective in the proposed legislation, as in "Alaska Native", on page 1, lines 6, 8, and 10, and "Alaska artists", on page 1, line 14. She pointed out that on page 2, line 16, it says "the Alaska State Legislature". She remarked, "If you are actually applying this amendment appropriately, you would also be seeking to change the name of the institution, on page 2, line 16; therefore, I object, and I will be voting against this amendment." 8:21:12 AM JIM PUCKETT, Staff, Senator Donny Olson, Alaska State Legislature, offered his understanding after hearing Representative Drummond's explanation, that she was correct. 8:22:05 AM CO-CHAIR PARISH proffered that if Alaskan refers to people and Alaska describes things, then the question is whether artists are people. He reasoned that if they are people, then they should be referred to as Alaskan artists. He added, "And in the case of 'Alaska Natives', the second word is the one which carries the modifier." 8:22:59 AM REPRESENTATIVE TALERICO said typically Alaskan means an individual or individual thing and is not used for a group; therefore, he said he agrees with Representative Drummond. 8:23:52 AM REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER suggested that if the proposed legislation applies to a group of people rather than every Alaskan, then perhaps that has some bearing on the discussion. CO-CHAIR PARISH noted that a change had been made [to the original legislation], which removed Native from "Alaska Native artists", because non-Native Alaskans can make a living working mastodon ivory. 8:25:38 AM MR. PUCKETT, in response to a question from Representative Rauscher, reviewed that under the federal Marine Mammal Protection Act, only Natives can work on raw walrus ivory; non- Native Alaskans can work only with fossilized ivory. REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER stated that he would [support Representative Drummond's standpoint]. 8:26:27 AM REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND maintained her objection. CO-CHAIR PARISH encouraged committee members to ask themselves which, Alaska or Alaskan, sounds more natural. REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND said she edited copy for over 30 years as a professional graphic designer and has been lectured by people who know far more about the subject. She offered her understanding that the Associated Press (AP) Style Manual has a section just for Alaska, and she said she would guarantee it would "say the same thing." 8:27:57 AM REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND [moved] to adopt a conceptual amendment to Conceptual Amendment 1, such that in every instance where "Alaska" [is used as an adjective] it be changed to "Alaskan". She then withdrew her motion and explained she had just been making a point. CO-CHAIR PARISH reiterated that "Alaskan" refers to a person, not a place. 8:29:34 AM A roll call vote was taken. Representative Parish voted in favor of Conceptual Amendment 1. Representatives Lincoln, Drummond, Talerico, Rauscher, and Zulkosky voted against it. Therefore, Conceptual Amendment 1 failed by a vote of 5-1. 8:30:17 AM CO-CHAIR ZULKOSKY noted there was a zero fiscal note for CSSJR 4(RES). 8:30:34 AM CO-CHAIR PARISH moved to report CSSJR 4(RES) out of committee with individual recommendations and the accompanying zero fiscal note. There being no objection, CSSJR 4(RES) moved out of the House Community and Regional Affairs Standing Committee.