ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
          SENATE LABOR AND COMMERCE STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                        
                          May 1, 2024                                                                                           
                           4:02 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Jesse Bjorkman, Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Elvi Gray-Jackson                                                                                                       
Senator Kelly Merrick                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Click Bishop, Vice Chair                                                                                                
Senator Forrest Dunbar                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 237                                                                                                              
"An  Act relating  to temporary  permits for  nurses with  lapsed                                                               
licenses."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 97(JUD) AM                                                                              
"An  Act   relating  to  self-storage  facilities   for  personal                                                               
property,  including  vehicles   and  watercraft;  distinguishing                                                               
self-storage facility  liens from  another type of  storage lien;                                                               
and excluding  self-storage liens  from the treatment  of certain                                                               
unclaimed property."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED SCS CSHB 97(L&C) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 29(JUD) AM                                                                              
"An Act  prohibiting certain insurance decisions  based solely on                                                               
a person's status as an elected official."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED SCS CSHB 29(L&C) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 309                                                                                                              
"An Act  relating to the  practice of optometry; and  relating to                                                               
the delegation of routine services of optometry."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 254(JUD) AM                                                                             
"An Act relating to minors and the Internet; and relating to use                                                                
of social media by minors."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 226                                                                                                              
"An  Act  relating   to  the  Board  of   Pharmacy;  relating  to                                                               
insurance;  relating  to  pharmacies;  relating  to  pharmacists;                                                               
relating  to  pharmacy  benefits managers;  relating  to  patient                                                               
choice of pharmacy; and providing for an effective date."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     - SCHEDULED BUT NOT HEARD                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 285                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to insurance; relating to mammograms; and                                                                      
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - BILL HEARING CANCELED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 237                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: TEMPORARY PERMIT FOR LAPSED NURSE LICENSE                                                                          
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) PRAX                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
01/16/24       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/8/24                                                                                
01/16/24       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/16/24       (H)       L&C                                                                                                    
02/02/24       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
02/02/24       (H)       <Bill Hearing Rescheduled to 02/05/24>                                                                 
02/05/24       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
02/05/24       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/05/24       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
02/19/24       (H)       L&C AT 4:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
02/19/24       (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
02/26/24       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
02/26/24       (H)       Moved HB 237 Out of Committee                                                                          
02/26/24       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/01/24       (H)       L&C RPT 5DP 1NR                                                                                        
03/01/24       (H)       DP: CARRICK, PRAX, WRIGHT, RUFFRIDGE,                                                                  
                         SUMNER                                                                                                 
03/01/24       (H)       NR: FIELDS                                                                                             
03/13/24       (H)       TRANSMITTED TO (S)                                                                                     
03/13/24       (H)       VERSION: HB 237                                                                                        
03/15/24       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/15/24       (S)       L&C                                                                                                    
05/01/24       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB  97                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: SELF-STORAGE UNITS: LIENS; SALES                                                                                   
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) PRAX                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
03/06/23       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/06/23       (H)       L&C, JUD                                                                                               
03/24/23       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/24/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/24/23       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
04/14/23       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
04/14/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/14/23       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
05/01/23       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
05/01/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
05/01/23       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
05/03/23       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
05/03/23       (H)       Moved CSHB 97(L&C) Out of Committee                                                                    
05/03/23       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
05/08/23       (H)       L&C RPT CS(L&C) 4DP 2AM                                                                                
05/08/23       (H)       DP: PRAX, WRIGHT, SADDLER, RUFFRIDGE                                                                   
05/08/23       (H)       AM: FIELDS, CARRICK                                                                                    
02/05/24       (H)       JUD AT 1:30 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
02/05/24       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/05/24       (H)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
02/07/24       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
02/07/24       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/07/24       (H)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
02/09/24       (H)       JUD AT 1:30 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
02/09/24       (H)       <Bill Hearing Canceled>                                                                                
02/14/24       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
02/14/24       (H)       Moved CSHB 97(JUD) Out of Committee                                                                    
02/14/24       (H)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
02/15/24       (H)       JUD RPT CS(JUD) 4DP 2NR                                                                                
02/15/24       (H)       DP: CARPENTER, SUMNER, ALLARD, VANCE                                                                   
02/15/24       (H)       NR: GRAY, GROH                                                                                         
03/21/24       (H)       TRANSMITTED TO (S)                                                                                     
03/21/24       (H)       VERSION: CSHB 97(JUD) AM                                                                               
03/22/24       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/22/24       (S)       L&C, JUD                                                                                               
04/08/24       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
04/08/24       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/08/24       (S)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
04/24/24       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
04/24/24       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/24/24       (S)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
05/01/24       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB  29                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: INSURANCE DISCRIMINATION                                                                                           
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) MCCABE                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
01/19/23       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/9/23                                                                                
01/19/23       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/19/23       (H)       L&C, JUD                                                                                               
02/10/23       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
02/10/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/10/23       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
02/17/23       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
02/17/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/17/23       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/03/23       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/03/23       (H)       <Bill Hearing Canceled>                                                                                
03/06/23       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/06/23       (H)       Moved CSHB 29(L&C) Out of Committee                                                                    
03/06/23       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/08/23       (H)       L&C RPT CS(L&C) 1DP 1DNP 5NR                                                                           
03/08/23       (H)       DP: CARRICK                                                                                            
03/08/23       (H)       DNP: FIELDS                                                                                            
03/08/23       (H)       NR: PRAX, WRIGHT, SADDLER, RUFFRIDGE,                                                                  
                         SUMNER                                                                                                 
04/28/23       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
04/28/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/28/23       (H)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
05/03/23       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
05/03/23       (H)       Moved CSHB 29(JUD) Out of Committee                                                                    
05/03/23       (H)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
05/08/23       (H)       JUD RPT CS(JUD) NEW TITLE 3DP 1DNP 2NR                                                                 
                         1AM                                                                                                    
05/08/23       (H)       DP: C.JOHNSON, ALLARD, VANCE                                                                           
05/08/23       (H)       DNP: EASTMAN                                                                                           
05/08/23       (H)       NR: GROH, CARPENTER                                                                                    
05/08/23       (H)       AM: GRAY                                                                                               
05/13/23       (H)       TRANSMITTED TO (S)                                                                                     
05/13/23       (H)       VERSION: CSHB 29(JUD) AM                                                                               
05/15/23       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
05/15/23       (S)       L&C, JUD                                                                                               
04/24/24       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
04/24/24       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/24/24       (S)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
05/01/24       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 309                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: DELEGATION OF ROUTINE OPTOMETRY SERVICES                                                                           
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) RUFFRIDGE                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
02/07/24       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/07/24       (H)       HSS, L&C                                                                                               
03/21/24       (H)       HSS AT 3:00 PM DAVIS 106                                                                               
03/21/24       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/21/24       (H)       MINUTE(HSS)                                                                                            
03/28/24       (H)       HSS AT 3:00 PM DAVIS 106                                                                               
03/28/24       (H)       Moved HB 309 Out of Committee                                                                          
03/28/24       (H)       MINUTE(HSS)                                                                                            
04/01/24       (H)       HSS RPT 3DP 2NR                                                                                        
04/01/24       (H)       DP: RUFFRIDGE, MCCORMICK, PRAX                                                                         
04/01/24       (H)       NR: FIELDS, MINA                                                                                       
04/08/24       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
04/08/24       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/08/24       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
04/12/24       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
04/12/24       (H)       Moved HB 309 Out of Committee                                                                          
04/12/24       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
04/15/24       (H)       L&C RPT 4DP 2NR                                                                                        
04/15/24       (H)       DP: PRAX, WRIGHT, RUFFRIDGE, SUMNER                                                                    
04/15/24       (H)       NR: CARRICK, FIELDS                                                                                    
04/24/24       (H)       TRANSMITTED TO (S)                                                                                     
04/24/24       (H)       VERSION: HB 309                                                                                        
04/26/24       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/26/24       (S)       L&C                                                                                                    
05/01/24       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 254                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: BLOCK PORNOGRAPHY TO MINORS; SOCIAL MEDIA                                                                          
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) VANCE                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
01/16/24       (H)       PREFILE RELEASED 1/12/24                                                                               
01/16/24       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/16/24       (H)       L&C, JUD                                                                                               
01/31/24       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
01/31/24       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
01/31/24       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/06/24       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/06/24       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/06/24       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/11/24       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/11/24       (H)       Moved HB 254 Out of Committee                                                                          
03/11/24       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/13/24       (H)       L&C RPT 1DP 1DNP 3NR 1AM                                                                               
03/13/24       (H)       DP: SADDLER                                                                                            
03/13/24       (H)       DNP: CARRICK                                                                                           
03/13/24       (H)       NR: PRAX, WRIGHT, RUFFRIDGE                                                                            
03/13/24       (H)       AM: FIELDS                                                                                             
03/13/24       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
03/13/24       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/13/24       (H)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
03/15/24       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
03/15/24       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/15/24       (H)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
03/18/24       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
03/18/24       (H)       Moved CSHB 254(JUD) Out of Committee                                                                   
03/18/24       (H)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
03/20/24       (H)       JUD RPT CS(JUD) 4DP 1DNP 1NR                                                                           
03/20/24       (H)       DP: C.JOHNSON, CARPENTER, ALLARD, VANCE                                                                
03/20/24       (H)       DNP: GRAY                                                                                              
03/20/24       (H)       NR: GROH                                                                                               
04/26/24       (H)       TRANSMITTED TO (S)                                                                                     
04/26/24       (H)       VERSION: CSHB 254(JUD) AM                                                                              
04/29/24       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/29/24       (S)       L&C, JUD, FIN                                                                                          
05/01/24       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
RILEY NYE, Staff                                                                                                                
Representative Mike Prax                                                                                                        
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Introduced HB 237 on behalf of the sponsor.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SYLVAN ROBB, Director                                                                                                           
Division of Corporations, Business and Professional Licensing                                                                   
Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development                                                                      
(DCCED)                                                                                                                         
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions during the discussion of                                                               
HB 237.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ERICK CORDERO, Staff                                                                                                            
Representative Mike Prax                                                                                                        
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions on HB 97 on behalf of the                                                              
sponsor.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
KONRAD JACKSON, Staff                                                                                                           
Senator Jesse Bjorkman                                                                                                          
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Explained Amendment 1 to HB 29.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
JAMES SEXTON, Staff                                                                                                             
Representative Justin Ruffridge                                                                                                 
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Introduced HB 309 on behalf of the sponsor.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
BRADLEY CROSS, Chair                                                                                                            
State Board of Examiners in Optometry                                                                                           
Soldotna, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT: Gave invited testimony in support of HB 309.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DAMIEN DELZER, O.D., President-Elect                                                                                            
Alaska Optometric Association                                                                                                   
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Gave invited testimony in support of HB 309.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ELIZABETH STEVENS, Executive Director                                                                                           
Alaska Optometric Association                                                                                                   
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Gave invited testimony in support of HB 309.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT BALLINGER, Staff                                                                                                         
Representative Sarah Vance                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Introduced HB 254 on behalf of the sponsor.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
RICHARD DARR, Executive Director                                                                                                
National Decency Coalition                                                                                                      
Nashville, Tennessee                                                                                                            
POSITION STATEMENT: Gave invited testimony in support of HB 254.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:02:35 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  JESSE  BJORKMAN  called  the  Senate  Labor  and  Commerce                                                             
Standing Committee meeting  to order at 4:02 p.m.  Present at the                                                               
call  to order  were  Senators Gray-Jackson,  Merrick, and  Chair                                                               
Bjorkman.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
        HB 237-TEMPORARY PERMIT FOR LAPSED NURSE LICENSE                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:03:40 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN announced the consideration  of HOUSE BILL NO. 237                                                               
"An  Act relating  to temporary  permits for  nurses with  lapsed                                                               
licenses."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:04:02 PM                                                                                                                    
RILEY  NYE,   Staff,  Representative  Mike  Prax,   Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  Juneau,  Alaska,  said  HB 237  would  provide  for                                                               
temporary  permits  for nurses  with  lapsed  licenses. The  bill                                                               
would  amend  AS  08.68.210,  which   is  the  temporary  permits                                                               
statute,  to allow  the Board  of  Nursing to  issue a  temporary                                                               
permit  to  a  person  applying for  reinstatement  of  a  lapsed                                                               
license, as long  as the person meets the same  requirements as a                                                               
person  applying for  license  by examination.  A  person with  a                                                               
lapsed  Alaska  nursing  license  met  all  of  Alaska's  nursing                                                               
license  requirements  when  they first  applied.  Those  seeking                                                               
license reinstatements go  through the same licensing  steps as a                                                               
person  applying for  an  Alaska nursing  license  for the  first                                                               
time, through the  license by examination process  as provided by                                                               
AS 08.68.210, (b). For this reason,  he said, it poses no greater                                                               
risk to the  public to issue a temporary permit  to practice to a                                                               
person seeking  license reinstatement  than it  would to  issue a                                                               
temporary  permit to  a  person applying  for  an Alaska  nursing                                                               
license for  the first time.  The public interest in  having more                                                               
nurses actively practicing the profession  in Alaska is served by                                                               
issuing a temporary  permit to practice in either  case. He noted                                                               
there is  broad consensus that  Alaskans are  currently suffering                                                               
the consequences of a shortage  of actively practicing nurses. He                                                               
encouraged the passage of HB 237 as quickly as possible.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:06:01 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN  invited Ms.  Robb to  answer questions.  He asked                                                               
how the  process would  work [under  HB 237] for  a nurse  with a                                                               
lapsed license.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:06:32 PM                                                                                                                    
SYLVAN  ROBB, Director,  Division of  Corporations, Business  and                                                               
Professional  Licensing, Department  of  Commerce, Community  and                                                               
Economic Development  (DCCED), Juneau,  Alaska, answered  that HB                                                               
237  provides  a  technical  fix   allowing  nurses  with  lapsed                                                               
licenses to  obtain a temporary license  while awaiting necessary                                                               
documentation for  permanent reinstatement. She said  the process                                                               
involves submitting a form, paying  a fee, and then gathering and                                                               
submitting the  remaining required  documentation. Once  a subset                                                               
of the  required documentation is received  and deemed acceptable                                                               
by the board, the nurse can  obtain a temporary license and start                                                               
working.  She noted  that obtaining  documentation directly  from                                                               
institutions or  employers may  not always  be a  priority, which                                                               
can delay the process.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:07:45 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN  asked  whether  the  renewal  process  would  be                                                               
available  through  an  easy  to  use,  online  licensing  portal                                                               
containing the data of previously licensed nurses.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:08:13 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  ROBB  replied  that  it was  relatively  easy.  All  nursing                                                               
applications  were   available  online.  She  noted   there  were                                                               
requirements  to provide  documentation  of continuing  education                                                               
and other requirements  to ensure they were  prepared to practice                                                               
safely.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:08:49 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN held HB 237 in committee.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
            HB  97-SELF-STORAGE UNITS: LIENS; SALES                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:08:59 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN announced  the consideration of CS  FOR HOUSE BILL                                                               
NO. 97(JUD)  am "An Act  relating to self-storage  facilities for                                                               
personal   property,    including   vehicles    and   watercraft;                                                               
distinguishing self-storage  facility liens from another  type of                                                               
storage  lien;   and  excluding   self-storage  liens   from  the                                                               
treatment of certain unclaimed property."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
[Before the committee is SCS CSHB 97, work order 33-LS0392\R.]                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:09:56 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN drew attention to HB  97, page 2, lines 26-27, and                                                               
said "default" is broadly defined.  He asked for a description of                                                               
the experience  for a storage space  renter who fails to  pay the                                                               
rent for the space. He asked  when the owner of the storage space                                                               
could deny access to a renter.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:10:46 PM                                                                                                                    
ERICK  CORDERO, Staff,  Representative  Mike  Prax, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, Juneau,  Alaska, answered that the  owner could deny                                                               
access after the first notice  and until they receive payment. He                                                               
said  the  owner cannot  dispose  of  the  property or  sell  the                                                               
property  until after  the  second notice.  According  to HB  97,                                                               
after the  first default,  an owner  can deny  access and  if the                                                               
renter doesn't comply within 20  days, the owner could dispose of                                                               
the property.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:12:00 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN  asked if  that would  be for  someone who  is ten                                                               
days late to pay their rent.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:12:05 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  CORDERRO  replied that  ten  days  would  be for  the  first                                                               
notice;  however,  he noted  this  was  a  guideline. He  said  a                                                               
storage facility  owner can wait  longer than that if  they wish.                                                               
He  said that  this was  a concern  expressed by  a [self-storage                                                               
facility] owner and  he pointed out that HB 97  does not prohibit                                                               
owners from extending [the time for payment to be received].                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:12:30 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN solicited a motion.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:12:37 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON moved to report  SCS CSHB 97, work order 33-                                                               
LS0392\R,  from  committee  with individual  recommendations  and                                                               
attached zero fiscal note(s).                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:12:54 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN  found no  objection  and  SCS CSHB  97(L&C)  was                                                               
reported from the Senate Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:13:04 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                HB  29-INSURANCE DISCRIMINATION                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:15:17 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN   reconvened  the   meeting  and   announced  the                                                               
consideration  of  CS FOR  HOUSE  BILL  NO.  29(JUD) am  "An  Act                                                               
prohibiting  certain  insurance  decisions   based  solely  on  a                                                               
person's status as an elected official."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:15:43 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN  opened public testimony  on HB 29;  finding none,                                                               
he closed public testimony.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:16:34 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN solicited a motion.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:16:36 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON moved  to adopt Amendment 1,  work order 33-                                                               
LS0272\U.A.1.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                               33-LS0272\U.A.1                                                                  
                                                      Wallace                                                                   
                                                      4/27/24                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                          AMENDMENT 1                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED IN THE SENATE                                                                                                      
          TO:  CSHB 29(JUD) am                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 7, following "governor,":                                                                                     
         Insert "a member of the state's congressional                                                                          
     delegation,"                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:16:46 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN objected for purposes of explanation.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:16:58 PM                                                                                                                    
KONRAD  JACKSON,  Staff,  Senator Jesse  Bjorkman,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, said  U.A.1 corrects an oversight by                                                               
adding "a member of the  state's congressional delegation" to the                                                               
definition of elected officials.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:17:37 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN  removed  his  objection.  He  found  no  further                                                               
objection, and Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:17:57 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN solicited the will of the committee.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:17:59 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON moved to report  CSHB 29(JUD) am, work order                                                               
33-LS0272\U.A,  as   amended,  from  committee   with  individual                                                               
recommendations and attached fiscal note(s).                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:18:16 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN  found no  objection  and  SCS CSHB  29(L&C)  was                                                               
reported from the Senate Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:18:26 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
        HB 309-DELEGATION OF ROUTINE OPTOMETRY SERVICES                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:20:18 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN announced the consideration  of HOUSE BILL NO. 309                                                               
"An Act  relating to the  practice of optometry; and  relating to                                                               
the delegation of routine services of optometry."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:20:55 PM                                                                                                                    
JAMES  SEXTON,  Staff,  Representative Justin  Ruffridge,  Alaska                                                               
State Legislature,  Juneau, Alaska, gave  a brief overview  of HB                                                               
309 and it's beneficial impacts on optometry practices.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SEXTON moved  to slide  2, and  explained that  a review  of                                                               
optometric  practices  revealed  that  there  was  not  statutory                                                               
language allowing delegation of optometric tasks.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Issue                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
       • Optometric practices do not have current statute                                                                       
        language to allow the Board of Examiners of                                                                             
        Optometry to regulate delegation of routine tasks to                                                                    
        Optometric Technicians and Assistants                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
        • Delegation of basic routine tasks are standard                                                                        
        practice in other health professions licensed in                                                                        
       Alaska, as well as optometric practices nationwide                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
        • Without this authority, Optometrists would be                                                                         
        required to perform all preliminary and ancillary                                                                       
        testing on each patient, which would greatly                                                                            
        restrict access to care.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:22:16 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SEXTON  moved to  slide 3,  and discussed  a partial  list of                                                               
occupations  whose   boards  grant  them  the   ability,  through                                                               
statute, to  delegate routine tasks.  He noted that the  field of                                                               
ophthalmology was granted the ability  to delegate routine tasks,                                                               
but  somehow  optometry was  not  included  in statute  regarding                                                               
routine medical duties.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Other Healthcare professions in Alaska:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     • Professions in Alaska that have solved this problem                                                                      
        with incorporating delegation authority include:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
       • Medical Doctors, Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine,                                                                       
        Podiatry, Physician Assistants (08.64.106)                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     • Dental (08.32.346)                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     • Veterinary (08.98.050 (9,B))                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     • Pharmacy (08.80.030,(9))                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     • Chiropractic (08.20.168)                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:22:52 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  SEXTON   moved  to   slide  4,   and  discussed   the  tasks                                                               
optometrists routinely delegate, noting  that the optometrists do                                                               
not delegate  the reading and  interpretation of test  results to                                                               
support staff and  that HB 309 would not  absolve the optometrist                                                               
of their responsibilities.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Examples of routine tasks                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     • Initial patient medical history and reason for visit                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
    • Initial    assessment    of   vision    and   current                                                                     
        prescription verification                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     • Blood pressure screenings and automated measurements                                                                     
        of the eye                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     • Ocular photography and digital imaging for review by                                                                     
        the doctor                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     • Assisting in medication refills                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
    • Performing     peripheral    vision    testing    for                                                                     
        interpretation by the doctor                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:23:24 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SEXTON moved to slide 5 and said HB 309 seeks to correct the                                                                
omission of delegation authority for optometrists in statutory                                                                  
language in order to maintain efficiency and effectiveness of                                                                   
normal optometric office visits.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Current challenges                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
       • In the absence of the ability to delegate tasks,                                                                       
        Optometry will be less efficient and effective at                                                                       
        meeting the demand of patient care that exists in                                                                       
        the state currently.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     • Optometry is projected to grow in the future.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     • Adding a logistical and financial burden to current                                                                      
        and future Optometrists may contribute to the                                                                           
        shortage of healthcare professionals.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:23:38 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SEXTON moved to slide 6 and discussed the expected impacts                                                                  
of HB 309.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     HB 309 impacts                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
      • This bill will have no impact on billing practices                                                                      
        and will not increase costs to the patient                                                                              
        population.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
      • The impact of passing this bill will be to ensure                                                                       
        that patients continue to receive appropriate and                                                                       
        effective care supervised by licensed Optometric                                                                        
        Physicians in Alaska.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:23:57 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SEXTON moved to slide 7 and described support for HB 309,                                                                   
which would allow delegation of routine tasks for optometry as                                                                  
is statutorily supported for other health professions.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Support                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
       • The Alaska Optometric Association supports this                                                                        
        legislative approach and action.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     • HB 309 brings Optometrists in line with other health                                                                     
        related professions in Alaska.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:24:30 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN announced invited testimony for HB 309.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:24:41 PM                                                                                                                    
BRADLEY  CROSS, Chair,  State Board  of  Examiners in  Optometry,                                                               
Soldotna, Alaska,  gave invited testimony  in support of  HB 309.                                                               
He said  optometry was  responsible for  the majority  of primary                                                               
eye care in  the state of Alaska, and optometrists  have grown as                                                               
a  profession to  accommodate the  needs of  Alaskans, urban  and                                                               
rural.   He   said   remote   eye   care   necessitated   skilled                                                               
practitioners who have a scope  of practice that ensured adequate                                                               
care. He stated that the  optometric profession, the state board,                                                               
the  state association,  and  state  legislators, understand  and                                                               
believe that statement and that  Optometry had shown itself to be                                                               
economically  beneficial to  our population,  [as well  as] safe,                                                               
sustainable and directly accountable to  the State Board, who, in                                                               
turn, is accountable to the legislature.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DR. CROSS  said the need for  an addition to the  State Board [of                                                               
Examiners  in Optometry]  statutes was  discovered during  a 2023                                                               
regulation project  relating to  telehealth. He  acknowledged the                                                               
help of  Representative Ruffridge  and staff  to create  a simple                                                               
and clear  solution. HB  309 will spell  out that  an optometrist                                                               
can delegate ancillary  testing to an assistant  or a technician.                                                               
He  compared  HB  309 with  similar  legislation  for  dentistry,                                                               
medicine, chiropractic,  veterinary medicine and others.  He said                                                               
it was commonplace  in optometry practices across  the country to                                                               
utilize technicians in  the daily patient flow  allowing for more                                                               
efficient use of resources within  the practice thereby improving                                                               
access  to care.  He  noted  that the  population  in Alaska  was                                                               
aging, and the  number of providers was decreasing;  HB 309 would                                                               
allow optometrists  to practice  at an  efficient level.  He said                                                               
this  was  more  important  than  ever  before;  with  our  older                                                               
population, more  diseases were  present requiring  more imaging,                                                               
more  visual  field  testing  and more  frequent  visits  than  a                                                               
younger population would demand. He  said the inclusion of HB 309                                                               
will ensure that optometrists have  the backing of state statutes                                                               
to provide a high  level of care for the patient  base that is in                                                               
most need of these services.  As training and demographics change                                                               
over time, optometrists practice more  and more medical eye care.                                                               
He  said to  catch  up with  the  change in  the  dynamic of  how                                                               
optometry  is functioning,  it's  time  to specifically  delegate                                                               
these tasks to optometric technicians  in our statutes. On behalf                                                               
of the Board  of Examiners in Optometry he  thanked the committee                                                               
for considering HB 309.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:27:40 PM                                                                                                                    
DAMIEN   DELZER,   O.D.,   President-Elect,   Alaska   Optometric                                                               
Association,  Fairbanks,   Alaska,  gave  invited   testimony  in                                                               
support of  HB 309. He said  the bill was requested  by the board                                                               
of examiners  and optometry due  to a recent research  opinion by                                                               
the Department  of Law. The  opinion was that the  statute needed                                                               
clarification regarding ongoing  delegation of routine pretesting                                                               
by  optometric  assistants.  He   explained  that  Optometry  has                                                               
utilized  assistants  as standard  of  care  and as  an  industry                                                               
standard   practice   for   decades,   preceding   his   graduate                                                               
professional education.  He said  he utilized assistants  for the                                                               
entirety  of his  30  years plus  career in  Alaska,  as well  as                                                               
previously in  the armed forces.  He said many  states recognized                                                               
this long  standing industry standard  and the use  of assistants                                                               
is  a  foregone conclusion  in  the  delivery  of eye  care,  not                                                               
requiring  any   specific  statute  language.  In   many  states,                                                               
including  other states  where he  held licenses,  such as  North                                                               
Dakota  and Montana,  it was  an implied  practice, much  like we                                                               
have done  here for many decades  in Alaska. He pointed  out that                                                               
assistants improve  access to all  types of medical care,  as was                                                               
earlier  presented and  specific Alaska  statutes addressed  this                                                               
across nearly all  healthcare fields. He said  the utilization of                                                               
optometric   assistants   is  universal   throughout   optometric                                                               
practices in  all states, helping  to decrease costs  and improve                                                               
patient  access.  He  noted   optometric  assistants  will  often                                                               
perform  routine pre-testing  tasks  under the  supervision of  a                                                               
licensed  doctor.  These  tasks  include things  such  as  visual                                                               
acuity,  like you  might have  done  at the  Department of  Motor                                                               
Vehicles,  glasses,   measurements,  documentation   and  medical                                                               
issues,  current and  past, as  well  as medications,  allergies,                                                               
photography  and  other  non-invasive tests.  Assistants  receive                                                               
nearly   all  their   training  on-the-job   under  the   careful                                                               
supervision  of licensed  professionals as  well as  seasoned and                                                               
experienced  supervisors,   similar  to   most  trades.   As  the                                                               
assistant  demonstrates  their   safety  and  proficiency,  their                                                               
responsibilities  slowly expand,  while always  remaining subject                                                               
to continuous oversight of the licensed doctor.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:30:10 PM                                                                                                                    
DR.  DELZER  said this  thoughtful  and  simple legislation  will                                                               
provide  the   statute  clarification   as  recommended   by  the                                                               
Department of  Law to allow  the crafting of  regulatory language                                                               
by the  board to  carefully regulate  this ongoing  delegation of                                                               
safe,  supervised, non-invasive  assistance  for busy  practices,                                                               
which in  turn continues to  improve access for the  residents of                                                               
Alaska  to   much  needed  eye  care.   Fortunately,  the  simple                                                               
legislation   would  accomplish   this  in   a  manner   that  is                                                               
recommended by  Director Robb at no  cost to the state,  nor cost                                                               
to the patients or their  insurers. He said the Alaska Optometric                                                               
Association and  its membership fully  support HB 309  and remain                                                               
grateful to  the sponsor, Representative  Ruffridge, and  to this                                                               
distinguished committee  for the opportunity to  promptly address                                                               
this issue.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:31:25 PM                                                                                                                    
ELIZABETH   STEVENS,   Executive  Director,   Alaska   Optometric                                                               
Association,  Anchorage,   Alaska,  gave  invited   testimony  in                                                               
support of HB 309. She  appreciated the opportunity to testify on                                                               
behalf  of  over  100  optometric   physicians  who  provide  the                                                               
majority of  primary eye care  statewide in both rural  and urban                                                               
communities.  The  Alaska  Optometric  Association  strongly  and                                                               
enthusiastically  supports HB  309 which  would grant  the Alaska                                                               
Board  of   Examiners  in  Optometry   the  authority   to  draft                                                               
regulations  regarding  the   delegation  of  routine  optometric                                                               
services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:32:29 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN held HB 309 in committee.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:32:35 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
        HB 254-BLOCK PORNOGRAPHY TO MINORS; SOCIAL MEDIA                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:33:38 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN announced  the consideration of CS  FOR HOUSE BILL                                                               
NO. 254(JUD) am "An Act relating  to minors and the Internet; and                                                               
relating to use of social media by minors."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:34:04 PM                                                                                                                    
ROBERT  BALLINGER,  Staff,  Representative  Sarah  Vance,  Alaska                                                               
State Legislature,  Juneau, Alaska,  introduced HB 254  on behalf                                                               
of the sponsor.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:34:20 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:37:45 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN reconvened the meeting.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:38:02 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.   BALLINGER  delivered   a   slideshow  presentation   titled                                                               
"Prohibit Pornography  to Minors".  He said HB  254 began  with a                                                               
vision to  limit access of  minors to  the worst material  on the                                                               
internet.  He  noted  that several  states  have  passed  similar                                                               
legislation that held up to challenges in federal court.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:38:31 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  BALLINGER  moved  to  slide   2,  which  listed  letters  of                                                               
endorsement for HB 254:                                                                                                         
   • Ricky Darr on behalf of National Decency Coalition"                                                                        
   • Donna Rice Hughes on behalf of "Enough is Enough - Making                                                                  
     the Internet Safer for Children and Families"                                                                              
   • Dr. Gail Dines on behalf of "Culture Reframed"                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:38:42 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BALLINGER moved  to slide 3, listing  organizations that have                                                               
conducted studies on Pornography:                                                                                               
   • American Bar Association (ABA)                                                                                             
   • American College of Pediatricians                                                                                          
   • National Human Trafficking Hotline                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:39:06 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BALLINGER moved  to slide 4, highlighting  the conclusions of                                                               
two studies:                                                                                                                    
   • American College of Pediatricians                                                                                          
        • Conclusions: Children suffer many negative effects due                                                                
          to  modern  society's  exposure to  and  acceptance  of                                                               
          pornography.  These  negative  effects  include  mental                                                               
          disturbance and unrest for the  young school age child,                                                               
          including acting out and violent behavior.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
   • American Bar Association:                                                                                                  
        • Conclusion: Exposure to pornography harms children and                                                                
          youth by normalizing sexual violence, creating                                                                        
          unrealistic expectations for intimate partners and                                                                    
          relationships, and increasing the risk of addiction.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:39:46 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  BALLINGER moved  to slide  5, titled  "Intersections between                                                               
Pornography   and   Human   Trafficking:   Training   Ideas   and                                                               
Implications" which highlighted the following findings:                                                                         
        • Pornography   is   the   driving   force   behind   the                                                               
          international  sex  trafficking  industry.  (MacKinnon,                                                               
          2005)                                                                                                                 
        • Traffickers   are   smart   about   their   recruitment                                                               
          strategies  and  play   on  a  person's  "psychological                                                               
          variables"  or vulnerabilities  (Lutya,  2012, Ch.  5).                                                               
          Specifically,  children and  young teens  have specific                                                               
          desires  for acceptance,  love, recognition  and money,                                                               
          which  makes   them  an  easy  target   (Sager,  2012).                                                               
          Recruitment  strategies often  incorporate  use of  the                                                               
          Internet.  For  example,  cybergrooming is  a  form  of                                                               
          grooming  done  online,  with the  intent  to  sexually                                                               
          exploit  an   individual  (Wachs,  et  al.,   2016).  A                                                               
          predator no  longer must physically  lure and  kidnap a                                                               
          teen,  they are  able to  sit behind  the comfort  of a                                                               
          keyboard   and   exploit    anyone   available   online                                                               
          (Humphreys, 2017).                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:41:01 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  BALLINGER   moved  to  slide   6,  titled   "National  Human                                                               
Trafficking  Hotline  Data  Report, Report  2021  -  12/31/2021",                                                               
highlighting  that  pornography  was   the  top-listed  venue  or                                                               
industry of potential trafficking  reported that year, with 7,499                                                               
situations reported, which was 72 percent of the total reports.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:41:15 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  BALLINGER moved  to  slide 7,  a map  of  the United  States                                                               
highlighting the  17 states that  had pornography age  limit laws                                                               
similar to HB 254 already in place.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. BALLINGER  noted that  law suits  had been  filed challenging                                                               
the age  verification legislation  in Louisiana, Utah  and Texas.                                                               
He said  the suits in  Louisiana and Utah were  dismissed because                                                               
of "lack  of standing," but the  Texas law was litigated  and had                                                               
reached  the  Supreme  Court,  which returned  the  case  to  the                                                               
district  court  in  Texas  and  the law  was  upheld  there.  He                                                               
explained  that  HB  254 targets  pornography  that  is  "obscene                                                               
material" which is not subject to First Amendment protections.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:42:49 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  BALLINGER moved  to  slide 8,  a map  of  the United  States                                                               
displaying the 16 additional states  where legislation similar to                                                               
HB 254 is under consideration.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:42:53 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BALLINGER moved  to slide 9 displaying a  Pornhub gateway for                                                               
age verification required by the  state of Louisiana and said the                                                               
Louisiana  legislation  requires  "a commercial,  reasonable  age                                                               
verification system".  He explained there  were a number  of ways                                                               
to do this;  most systems use an  internet-based system accessing                                                               
information available  online. It may  be necessary to  upload an                                                               
ID to provide age verification.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:43:47 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  BALLINGER concluded  the presentation  and provided  a brief                                                               
overview of HB 254. He said there were three parts to HB 254:                                                                   
   • Age verification requirements to access pornography. A                                                                     
     website whose content is one  third or more pornography will                                                               
     be   required   to   use  a   commercially   available   age                                                               
     verification system. HB 254  would establish civil penalties                                                               
     for non-compliance.                                                                                                        
   • A grant to provide $100 for parents to purchase and                                                                        
     implement parental control software  to limit minors' access                                                               
     to pornography. He noted the  $100 fee seemed high, but that                                                               
     was  the maximum  out  there,  and the  fee  would create  a                                                               
     fiscal note that could stop HB  254 from passing. He said if                                                               
     the committee liked the grant  feature, the sponsor would be                                                               
     willing to try to advance the bill with the grant attached.                                                                
   • Protection for young teens (14 and under) by removing                                                                      
     access to  set up and  maintain social media accounts  or to                                                               
     access social  media with parent permission  (15 and older).                                                               
     He noted support for this feature  of HB 254 and said it was                                                               
     from a Florida bill. He  acknowledged that more material may                                                               
     be  necessary  for consistency  of  the  application of  age                                                               
     verification requirements.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:46:33 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GRAY-JACKSON  sought  clarification about  how  the  age                                                               
verification portal would work.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:46:39 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BALLINGER  explained that age verification  systems [proposed                                                               
by HB 254] are similar to  those used for online gambling or wine                                                               
of the  Month Clubs,  where users  must prove  they are  of legal                                                               
age. He said the systems  involve software providers that collect                                                               
data from  various sources  to verify age,  without the  need for                                                               
users to upload  IDs and when ID is required,  it can be uploaded                                                               
securely and  there are many  software companies who  offer these                                                               
age  verification services.  He  acknowledged  the importance  of                                                               
protecting children's data.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:49:21 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN announced invited testimony on HB 254.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:49:34 PM                                                                                                                    
RICHARD  DARR, Executive  Director,  National Decency  Coalition,                                                               
Nashville,  Tennessee,  said HB  254  had  great history,  having                                                               
passed in  Louisiana in  2022 and  survived court  challenges. He                                                               
noted 17  states had passed the  bill. He said the  problem right                                                               
now  is that  children  typically  have access  all  the time  to                                                               
online   pornography  and   according   to   the  Kaiser   Family                                                               
Foundation, one in 10 sites  remain accessible even when parental                                                               
controls  are  in  place. And  according  to  [software  company]                                                               
Covenant  Eyes,  only  39 percent  of  parents  actually  utilize                                                               
filtering  software, which  leaves 61  percent of  children [with                                                               
internet access] exposed. He said  all the data on first exposure                                                               
[suggests it occurs] between the ages of eight and 12 years old.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. DARR  spoke about continuing  development and  improvement of                                                               
age  verification   software  in   states  that   passed  similar                                                               
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. DARR  concluded that legislation  like HB 254 was  doing well                                                               
against  legal  challenges  and   it  was  successfully  allowing                                                               
lawsuits  against   non-compliant  pornographers  in   Texas.  He                                                               
affirmed  the  importance  of  the  provision  for  investigative                                                               
action by the  state's attorney general to  strengthen the bill's                                                               
effectiveness. He encouraged the committee's support for HB 254.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:52:23 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN  said the  original intent  of HB  254 was  a good                                                               
idea and  a good  way to  ensure that  the only  people accessing                                                               
porn on  the Internet are adults.  He said time was  limited, and                                                               
he wanted to  focus on 'the possible' as  the committee considers                                                               
the bill.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BJORKMAN held HB 254 in committee.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:53:48 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair Bjorkman  adjourned the Senate Labor  and Commerce Standing                                                               
Committee meeting at 4:53 p.m.