ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         April 26, 2021                                                                                         
                           3:32 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Joshua Revak, Chair                                                                                                     
Senator Peter Micciche, Vice Chair                                                                                              
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
Senator Natasha von Imhof                                                                                                       
Senator Jesse Kiehl                                                                                                             
Senator Scott Kawasaki                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Gary Stevens                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 110                                                                                                             
"An Act relating to liability  of an electric utility for contact                                                               
between vegetation and the utility's  facilities; and relating to                                                               
vegetation management plans."                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 125                                                                                                             
"An  Act relating  to  the transferability  of  hunts awarded  by                                                               
drawing; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSSB 125(RES) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 113                                                                                                             
"An Act  extending the  fishery resource  landing tax  credit for                                                               
certain  taxpayers  that  harvest  fishery  resources  under  the                                                               
provisions  of a  community development  quota; providing  for an                                                               
effective date  by amending  the effective date  of sec.  36, ch.                                                               
61, SLA 2014; and providing for an effective date."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED SB 113 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 59                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to salt water sport fishing operators and salt                                                                 
water sport fishing guides; and providing for an effective                                                                      
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 79(FIN)                                                                                 
"An Act relating to sport fishing operators and sport fishing                                                                   
guides; requiring the Department of Fish and Game to prepare and                                                                
submit a report; and providing for an effective date."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     - BILL HEARING CANCELED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 80(FSH)                                                                                 
"An Act relating to sport fishing operators and sport fishing                                                                   
guides; requiring the Department of Fish and Game to prepare and                                                                
submit a report; and providing for an effective date."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     - BILL HEARING POSTPONED                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 110                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: ELECTRIC UTILITY LIABILITY                                                                                         
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) MICCICHE                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
03/19/21       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/19/21       (S)       RES                                                                                                    
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BILL: SB 125                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: HUNTING PERMITS: TRANSFERABILITY                                                                                   
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) VON IMHOF                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
04/16/21       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/16/21       (S)       RES                                                                                                    
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BILL: SB 113                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: EXTEND FISHERY RESOURCE LAND. TAX CREDIT                                                                           
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) OLSON                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
03/29/21       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/29/21       (S)       RES, FIN                                                                                               
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BILL: SB 59                                                                                                                   
SHORT TITLE: SALTWATER SPORTFISHING OPERATORS/GUIDES                                                                            
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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01/29/21       (S)       RES, FIN                                                                                               
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
EMMIE JACKSON, Staff                                                                                                            
Senator Peter Micciche                                                                                                          
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Introduced SB 110 on behalf of the sponsor.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CRYSTAL ENKVIST, Executive Director                                                                                             
Alaska Power Association (APA)                                                                                                  
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified on SB 110 by invitation.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
TRAVIS MILLION, Chief Executive Officer                                                                                         
Copper Valley Electric Association                                                                                              
Glennallen, Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified on SB 110 by invitation.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
JOHN BURNS, President and Chief Executive Officer                                                                               
Golden Valley Electric Association                                                                                              
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified on SB 110 by invitation.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
JIM BUTLER, Counsel                                                                                                             
Homer Electric Association                                                                                                      
Homer, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified on SB 110 by invitation.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
LYN ELLIOT Assistant Vice President                                                                                             
State Government Relations                                                                                                      
American Property Casualty Insurance Association                                                                                
Denver, Colorado                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT: Raised concern about SB 110.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ANDY LEMAN, General Counsel                                                                                                     
Alaska Power Association                                                                                                        
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions related to SB 110.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
INTIMAYO HARBISON, Staff                                                                                                        
Senator Natasha von Imhof                                                                                                       
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Introduced SB 125 on behalf of the sponsor.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
NATALIE WEBER, Program Coordinator II                                                                                           
Division of Wildlife Conservation                                                                                               
Alaska Department of Fish and Game (ADF&G)                                                                                      
Palmer, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions related to SB 125.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
RACHEL HANKE, Legislative Liaison                                                                                               
Alaska Department of Fish and Game (ADF&G)                                                                                      
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions related to SB 125.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
WADE BOWERSON, representing self                                                                                                
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 125.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DANIELLE CAMPOAMORE, representing self                                                                                          
Brooklyn, New York                                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 125.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
AARON TRENT, representing self                                                                                                  
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 125.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
KELLY TRENT, representing self                                                                                                  
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 125.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DOUGLAS VINCENT-LANG, Commissioner                                                                                              
Alaska Department of Fish and Game                                                                                              
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions related to SB 125.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JEFF TRENT, representing self                                                                                                   
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 125.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MARK RICHARDS, Executive Director                                                                                               
Resident Hunters of Alaska                                                                                                      
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 125.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
TERESA CAMPOAMORE, representing self                                                                                            
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 125.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DONNY OLSON                                                                                                             
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Sponsor of SB 113.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
KEN TRUITT, Staff                                                                                                               
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided an overview of SB 113.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
NORM VAN VACTOR, President and Chief Executive Officer                                                                          
Bristol Bay Economic Development Corporation                                                                                    
Dillingham, Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 113.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
JENNIFER WILLIAMS                                                                                                               
Government Affairs                                                                                                              
Yukon Delta Fisheries Development Association                                                                                   
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 113.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER MCCARTY, representative                                                                                                 
Central Bearing Sea Fishermen's Association                                                                                     
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 113.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ANGEL DROBNICA, representative                                                                                                  
Aleutian Pribilof Island Community Development Association                                                                      
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 113.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DOUGLAS VINCENT-LANG, Commissioner                                                                                              
Alaska Department of Fish and Game                                                                                              
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Introduced SB 59 on behalf of the                                                                         
administration.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
RACHEL HANKE, Legislative Liaison                                                                                               
Alaska Department of Fish and Game                                                                                              
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented the sectional analysis for SB 59.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:32:57 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  JOSHUA   REVAK  called   the  Senate   Resources  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 3:32  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order were Senators von Imhof,  Kiehl, Micciche, and Chair Revak.                                                               
Senator  Kawasaki  arrived  soon thereafter  and  Senator  Bishop                                                               
arrived during the course of the meeting.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
He reviewed the agenda.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
               SB 110-ELECTRIC UTILITY LIABILITY                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:34:04 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK  announced the consideration  of SENATE BILL  NO. 110                                                               
"An Act relating to liability  of an electric utility for contact                                                               
between vegetation and the utility's  facilities; and relating to                                                               
vegetation management plans."                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:34:26 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR PETER MICCICHE, speaking as  sponsor of SB 110, stated he                                                               
was  carrying  the bill  by  request.  It  is about  an  electric                                                               
utility's  liability when  something occurs  that is  outside its                                                               
control. He  cited a forest  fire as  an example. He  deferred to                                                               
Ms. Jackson for further introduction.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:36:21 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI joined the committee meeting.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:36:34 PM                                                                                                                    
EMMIE  JACKSON,  Staff,  Senator  Peter  Micciche,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  Juneau,  Alaska,  introduced  SB  110  reading  the                                                               
following sponsor statement into the record:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Senate Bill 110 will  protect Alaska's electric utility                                                                    
     ratepayers  from  increased   rates  by  clarifying  in                                                                    
     statute  when  electric  utilities   are  and  are  not                                                                    
     legally liable  for damages  caused by  contact between                                                                    
     vegetation and electric infrastructure.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Under the provisions in SB  110, a utility would not be                                                                    
     liable  for damages  caused by  vegetation outside  its                                                                    
     easement    contacting    electric   facilities.    For                                                                    
     vegetation  inside  an  easement, a  utility  would  be                                                                    
     liable for  damages if  the utility  did not  adhere to                                                                    
     its vegetation management plan.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     SB 110  does not eliminate all  liability from electric                                                                    
     utilities.  Liability would  still apply  if a  utility                                                                    
     was found to  have failed to follow  its own vegetation                                                                    
     management  plan  or  if a  utility  causes  vegetation                                                                    
     outside  the easement  to contact  electric facilities.                                                                    
     The legislation better defines  in statute when damages                                                                    
     are   applicable,  setting   clear  expectations   that                                                                    
     utilities   will   implement  and   follow   vegetation                                                                    
     management plans or face liability.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     SB  110 protects  electric  utilities  from being  held                                                                    
     liable  for the  cost of  damages caused  by vegetation                                                                    
     that they  either cannot control or  were not permitted                                                                    
     to  maintain.  This  also  protects  Alaska's  electric                                                                    
     ratepayers  from  having to  bear  the  brunt of  those                                                                    
     costs through  their rates, in  a State  where electric                                                                    
     utility service costs are already high                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:38:22 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK turned to invited testimony.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:38:48 PM                                                                                                                    
CRYSTAL  ENKVIST, Executive  Director,  Alaska Power  Association                                                               
(APA), Anchorage,  Alaska, stated APA is  a statewide association                                                               
that represents  electric utilities  in Alaska.  Member companies                                                               
provide power  to more than  0.5 million Alaskans  from Utqiagvik                                                               
to Unalaska, through the Interior  and Southcentral, and down the                                                               
Inside Passage. On  behalf of APA, she stated  strong support for                                                               
SB  110,  which will  protect  Alaska  ratepayers from  increased                                                               
costs. It  provides clear rules  about when utilities  are liable                                                               
for  damage caused  by vegetation  coming too  close to  electric                                                               
facilities.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. ENKVIST  reported that utility  lines are most  often located                                                               
in easements or rights of  way across private or public property.                                                               
They are  wide enough to  accommodate the lines and  allow access                                                               
for  maintenance and  repairs, generally  15-20 feet.  She opined                                                               
that wider  easements would burden  property owners  and restrict                                                               
other uses of  that property. She explained  that utilities clear                                                               
vegetation inside  these corridors  to minimize contact  with the                                                               
electric facilities. She pointed  out that vegetation outside the                                                               
corridor can  grow high enough  to contact an  electric utility's                                                               
facility, but if the utility  cuts this tree or other vegetation,                                                               
it could be liable for treble  damages to the property owner. She                                                               
described the vegetation outside the  easement or right of way as                                                               
an  uncontrollable risk  to  both the  electric  utility and  its                                                               
ratepayers.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. ENKVIST said SB 110  clarifies that utilities are only liable                                                               
for  vegetation  outside  the utility  corridor  if  the  utility                                                               
itself  causes  the  vegetation  to hit  the  power  lines.  They                                                               
control  vegetation  inside  the utility  corridor  by  following                                                               
their comprehensive vegetation management  plan. Each is tailored                                                               
to  the utility's  unique circumstances.  SB  110 also  clarifies                                                               
that  utilities  are  only liable  for  damages  from  vegetation                                                               
inside the easement  or right of way  contacting their facilities                                                               
if  they do  not  have a  vegetation management  plan  or do  not                                                               
follow the plan. She restated the  point to emphasize that SB 110                                                               
does  not eliminate  liability. She  concluded, "As  factors that                                                               
cause  wild  fires  increase -  hotter  dryer  summers,  invasive                                                               
insects, and  longer growing  seasons, it  is imperative  that SB                                                               
110 pass to protect Alaska electric utility ratepayers."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:43:02 PM                                                                                                                    
TRAVIS MILLION,  Chief Executive Officer, Copper  Valley Electric                                                               
Association,  Glennallen,  Alaska,  delivered a  presentation  on                                                               
vegetation  management and  utility rights  of way.  He explained                                                               
that it is a utility's  legal obligation to manage the vegetation                                                               
within  the  bounds of  the  utility  right of  way.  Responsible                                                               
vegetation management helps  to ensure the safety  of the public.                                                               
A tree that comes in contact with  a line may cause a wildfire or                                                               
sag the line to the ground  in wintertime and become a hazard for                                                               
those driving on the rights of way on snow machines.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MILLION directed  attention  to  the graph  on  slide 3  and                                                               
explained  that the  width of  the right  of way  is measured  on                                                               
either  side of  the utility  pole, and  it is  utility specific.                                                               
Distribution line  rights of way  are 15  feet on either  side of                                                               
the  center of  the pole  for three-phase  lines and  10 feet  on                                                               
either  side  for  single-phase lines.  The  larger  transmission                                                               
lines typically  have a 50  foot right of  way on either  side of                                                               
the center line  or pole. He clarified that the  utility does not                                                               
own  the  land  inside  the  right of  way.  Rather,  the  state,                                                               
federal,  or private  property  owner has  given  the utility  an                                                               
easement for  access to the  land. The utility cannot  legally go                                                               
outside such easements.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:45:36 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MILLION directed attention to  slides 4 and 5 that illustrate                                                               
the mechanical  means typically employed  to clear rights  of way                                                               
in Alaska.  These methods include the  use of a bucket  truck and                                                               
telescoping chainsaw that can be  used to clear branches of trees                                                               
outside the  right of way that  encroach inside the right  of way                                                               
and  may  contact  the  utility line.  Copper  Valley  and  other                                                               
utilities also  use sky  trims or  drafts for  clearing purposes.                                                               
These  vehicles have  a telescoping  arm  with a  radial arm  saw                                                               
blade at  the end so limb  trimming can be done  from the ground.                                                               
Importantly, the utility easement  allows clearing from ground to                                                               
sky so  limbs inside the  easement may be trimmed.  Trees growing                                                               
outside  the  ROW cannot  be  cut  down. An  additional  clearing                                                               
method is to use a brush hog to  mow and chip all limbs and other                                                               
vegetation, which  can then be  left to  cover the ground  in the                                                               
right of way.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:47:24 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MILLION  pointed to  the image  on the left  side of  slide 6                                                               
that shows  a utility right  of way that  is very green.  He said                                                               
wildfires  are  not  the primary  concern  in  these  situations.                                                               
Rather, the  risk is from trees  outside the right of  way and/or                                                               
people traveling in  the right of way coming in  contact with the                                                               
lines.  He  said  the  picture  on the  right  shows  a  100-foot                                                               
transmission line  ROW that  is cleared from  ground to  sky. All                                                               
vegetation  in the  ROW has  been cut,  chipped, and  is used  as                                                               
mulch. He  directed attention to slide  7 and explained it  is an                                                               
example of a  30-foot distribution ROW before,  during, and after                                                               
clearing. He  said the final  slide shows a  typical distribution                                                               
line after the  vegetation has been cleared ground  to sky within                                                               
the ROW.  He said what  is important to note  is that any  of the                                                               
80100-foot  trees on either side  just outside the ROW could fall                                                               
and easily contact the utility line.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:50:04 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MILLION  began  his prepared  testimony.  He  stated  strong                                                               
support  for SB  110,  which  would clarify  in  statute that  an                                                               
electric  utility may  not be  held liable  for property  damage,                                                               
death,  or  personal injury  that  results  from contact  between                                                               
vegetation   outside   a   utility's    ROW   and   the   utility                                                               
infrastructure. This  protects ratepayers,  which in  Alaska most                                                               
often  are the  member  owners of  an  electric cooperative  that                                                               
serves  a municipality.  He emphasized  that CVEA  has been  very                                                               
aggressive in  the last  five years  to reestablish  and maintain                                                               
their   ROWs.  This   is  legally   and  morally   the  utility's                                                               
responsibility,  but  it  can  be  hard work  in  areas  such  as                                                               
Southeast and Valdez where the vegetation  grows as fast as it is                                                               
cleared.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MILION  reported that  CVEA  has  developed a  comprehensive                                                               
vegetation management plan  that describes the width  of ROW that                                                               
can be cleared for both  distribution and transmission lines, the                                                               
mechanical and  hand methods to  clear the ROW, and  the rotation                                                               
and  frequency  for  clearing  feeders  in  any  given  year.  He                                                               
reported that CVEA has reestablished  nearly the entire length of                                                               
its  106-mile transmission  line since  2016, despite  it running                                                               
through some  of the roughest  terrain in Alaska. He  opined that                                                               
if the  utility is doing  due diligence to follow  its vegetation                                                               
management plan,  it does not  seem right to hold  it responsible                                                               
if a  tree outside  the ROW  were to come  into contact  with the                                                               
lines  and cause  a fire.  The utility  does not  have the  legal                                                               
right to remove such trees.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MILION pointed out that  remotely isolated utilities face the                                                               
risk of  having to shut down  the power system if  a lawsuit were                                                               
to bankrupt the  utility. In these situations,  the member owners                                                               
have the most to lose, not  the stakeholders like in a for-profit                                                               
electric utility.  He maintained that  without SB 110,  there are                                                               
few cost-effective options for a  utility to mitigate these risks                                                               
without passing the burden on to  the member owners. He noted the                                                               
increasing risk of  wildfires and urged the committee  to pass SB                                                               
110  to  protect  Alaska  electric  utilities  and  their  member                                                               
owners.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:53:19 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KAWASAKI asked  if CVEA  works with  property owners  to                                                               
mitigate the risk from leaning trees that are outside the ROW.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. MILLION  answered CVEA  has notified  member owners  that the                                                               
utility  will  clear dangerous  trees  free  of charge  that  the                                                               
property owner has identified. Further,  if the utility is in the                                                               
area and sees  a tree that may endanger the  line, they will work                                                               
with the property owner to remove the tree.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:54:23 PM                                                                                                                    
JOHN BURNS, President and Chief  Executive Officer, Golden Valley                                                               
Electric Association,  Fairbanks, Alaska,  stated GVEA is  a not-                                                               
for-profit   electric   cooperative   serving   Interior   Alaska                                                               
communities from Cantwell to  Delta Junction, including Fairbanks                                                               
and North  Pole. This  5,973 square mile  service area  has about                                                               
2,600  miles  of  right  of  way easement  that  the  utility  is                                                               
responsible  for clearing.  This  is done  on  a 7-year  rotating                                                               
cycle, so  about 370  miles is  cleared every  season, consistent                                                               
with  the established  vegetation  management  plan. He  reported                                                               
that GVEA  spends about $3  million every year on  these clearing                                                               
efforts.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. BURNS described  SB 110 as vital to protect  the interests of                                                               
all  Alaska  ratepayers  from  increased  costs  associated  with                                                               
wildfires and other damages caused  by vegetation outside the ROW                                                               
easements,  and  over which  GVEA  and  other utilities  have  no                                                               
control. He said  GVEA has some of the highest  electric rates in                                                               
the  Railbelt,  and lawsuits  for  damages  caused by  vegetation                                                               
outside  the  ROW  and  outside GVEA's  right  to  control  would                                                               
further raise costs for ratepayers.  He reiterated that SB 110 is                                                               
important  to  protect  all   electric  ratepayers  from  bearing                                                               
additional  costs  resulting  from  lawsuits  related  to  things                                                               
outside the  utility's control.  He confirmed  previous testimony                                                               
that  a utility  is not  allowed  to enter  property outside  the                                                               
legal ROW  without the  consent of the  property owner.  Doing so                                                               
exposes the  utility to liability  for trespass.  Reason dictates                                                               
that a utility  should not be liable for that  over which it does                                                               
not have control  he said. It is neither fair  nor just to impose                                                               
liability on an electric utility  for damage caused by vegetation                                                               
outside the ROW  that falls into or otherwise  makes contact with                                                               
the utility infrastructure.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BURNS  said  SB  110  clarifies  in  statute  that  electric                                                               
utilities would  not be liable  for damages caused  by vegetation                                                               
outside  the  easement  that  contacts  the  utility  facilities.                                                               
Inside the  easement, the electric  utility would only  be liable                                                               
if  it had  not  followed its  established vegetation  management                                                               
plan. Importantly,  he said SB  110 does not  eliminate liability                                                               
for electric  utilities; it simply clarifies  when liability does                                                               
and does not apply when  damage arises from vegetation contacting                                                               
electric  infrastructure.  He   described  increased  maintenance                                                               
challenges attributed  to climate change and  urged the committee                                                               
to pass SB  110 and provide electric utilities with  a modicum of                                                               
protection.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:59:58 PM                                                                                                                    
JIM  BUTLER, Counsel,  Homer Electric  Association (HEA),  Homer,                                                               
Alaska, said the  previous testimony did a good  job of outlining                                                               
the rational and  importance of SB 110. He related  that HEA is a                                                               
nonprofit electric utility  that is governed by  an elected board                                                               
that is  held accountable  by the  paying members.  HEA's service                                                               
area covers nearly  32,000 miles from east of  Sterling, north to                                                               
Nikiski,  and  down  to  and across  Kachemak  Bay.  The  utility                                                               
represents 24,338 member owners.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BUTLER  reported that  HEA  has  just  over 2,700  miles  of                                                               
energized  line;   there  are  about  1,400   miles  of  overhead                                                               
distribution line, 1,000 miles  of underground distribution line,                                                               
and 300 miles  of transmission line. In  general, homeowners tend                                                               
to  own  the land  under  distribution  lines  and the  state  or                                                               
federal government owns the land below transmission lines.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUTLER  said HEA has had  a right of way  management plan for                                                               
many years, and they value  the input of landowners when clearing                                                               
the more than  1,500 miles of ROW. This  maintenance is important                                                               
to prevent damage  to the electric facilities and  to ensure that                                                               
work crews are  able to quickly and safely access  lines that may                                                               
be  down due  to  seasonal  whether events  or  other causes  and                                                               
restore power to the consumers.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:02:45 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BISHOP joined the committee meeting.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUTLER advised that HEA  notifies member owners when they are                                                               
clearing the  ROW and they  have found that with  the infestation                                                               
of spruce  bark beetles, people  are interested in  HEA's support                                                               
to  take down  dangerous and  dead trees.  He clarified  that HEA                                                               
works  collaboratively with  the landowners,  but is  not in  the                                                               
position to  assume the landowner's responsibility  of monitoring                                                               
and  managing hazardous  trees on  private property.  He reported                                                               
that HEA  spends from $1.2 million  to $1.6 million each  year to                                                               
implement its right of way  management plan. The board is briefed                                                               
on  the areas  that will  be cleared  according to  the revolving                                                               
plan  and they  support  the expenditure  when  they approve  the                                                               
annual budget.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUTLER  echoed previously  stated reasons  to support  SB 110                                                               
and added  that it provides  an incentive for utilities  to adopt                                                               
best practices  and develop ROW vegetation  management plans that                                                               
are unique  to the service  area. Hopefully, landowners  are also                                                               
incentivized to  be aware that  this is a  shared responsibility.                                                               
He  said  it is  also  important  to  understand that  more  than                                                               
liability  itself,  the  arguments  over liability  can  cause  a                                                               
utility  to   incur  significant   expense.  He   emphasized  the                                                               
importance of  clarifying the rules of  engagement, incentivizing                                                               
best  practices, and  working with  member customers  to mitigate                                                               
hazards of  not only fire  but also for  those who use  rights of                                                               
way in the winter.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:07:23 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK opened public testimony on SB 110.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:07:46 PM                                                                                                                    
LYN  ELLIOT,   Assistant  Vice  President  of   State  Government                                                               
Relations,  American  Property   Casualty  Insurance  Association                                                               
(APCIA),  Denver,  Colorado,  stated APCIA  represents  about  50                                                               
percent of  the property casualty  insurance market in  Alaska as                                                               
well as  family, communities,  and businesses  in the  state. She                                                               
said APCIA  appreciates the importance of  having robust policies                                                               
on wildfire  mitigation practices, but  they have a  concern with                                                               
granting  immunity  when the  state  does  not have  a  specified                                                               
standard for vegetation  management plans. She said  APCIA sees a                                                               
need for  compliance with such  plans as a condition  for partial                                                               
immunity. This will strike a  balance that takes into account the                                                               
needs of  the utilities, the  property owners, and  the insurers.                                                               
SB 110 does not achieve this balance, she said.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:09:36 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK found  no one else who wished to  comment, and closed                                                               
public testimony on SB 110.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:10:04 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL  mentioned  the  importance  of  having  a  robust                                                               
vegetation  management plan  and expressed  interest in  learning                                                               
what  those standards  look like.  He also  asked if  homeowner's                                                               
insurance  generally  covers an  [electrical]  fire  that is  the                                                               
result of a  tree falling on the house or  if the homeowner would                                                               
be uncovered and without the utility to look to.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:11:11 PM                                                                                                                    
ANDY   LEMAN,   General   Counsel,  Alaska   Power   Association,                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska, offered his understanding  that the reason for                                                               
having homeowner's  insurance is to cover  property damage caused                                                               
by fires, whether  it is vegetation in contact with  a power line                                                               
or the myriad of things that can lead to a fire.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. ELLIOT agreed that insurance  policies generally are in place                                                               
to protect the homeowner or business  owner in the event of loss.                                                               
She said one  concern with SB 110 is that  without an established                                                               
standard  for a  vegetation management  plan, the  insurers could                                                               
lose their subrogation rights. She  explained this is the ability                                                               
to recover  costs on behalf  of the homeowner or  property owners                                                               
who are insured by an insurance company.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIEHL asked  if the property owner is  liable for damages                                                               
from any tree that is rooted on their property                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:13:41 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BURNS answered that the property  owner whose tree falls on a                                                               
neighbor's  fence  is  responsible  for  that  fence.  Thus,  the                                                               
homeowner would typically be responsible  for damages from a tree                                                               
that  falls into  the  utility  line from  outside  the ROW.  The                                                               
utilities'  concern  is  being faced  with  defending  against  a                                                               
situation over which  it had no control to begin  with. This bill                                                               
does not shift  responsibility to the property  owner because the                                                               
property  owner already  has  the  responsibility of  maintaining                                                               
their own property. SB 110  makes it very clear the circumstances                                                               
under which a utility would have  liability and when it would not                                                               
have liability. He said it is a clear demarcation.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:15:23 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MICCICHE related the experience  of his insurance company                                                               
saying  the healthy  tree  on  his property  that  fell during  a                                                               
windstorm was  an act of God.  The insurance company said  he was                                                               
not responsible  for the tree  but the  damage it caused  was not                                                               
covered.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
He offered his view that SB  110 only clarifies what a utility is                                                               
responsible for when  damage that occurs is  beyond the utility's                                                               
control. He  described this as a  matter of fairness and  said he                                                               
intended to reach  out to Ms. Elliot and the  other testifiers to                                                               
find a  solution that  fairly protects  both property  owners and                                                               
utilities.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:18:26 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  REVAK announced  he would  hold  SB 110  in committee  for                                                               
future consideration.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
            SB 125-HUNTING PERMITS: TRANSFERABILITY                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:18:38 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK  announced the consideration  of SENATE BILL  NO. 125                                                               
"An  Act relating  to  the transferability  of  hunts awarded  by                                                               
drawing; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:19:07 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  NATASHA  VON  IMHOF,  speaking as  sponsor  of  SB  125,                                                               
explained the legislation is in  response to a constituent, Chase                                                               
Bowerson, who  was awarded a 2021  moose tag about a  month after                                                               
his  tragic death.  His mother  and  the executor  of the  estate                                                               
contacted the Alaska  Department of Fish and Game  (ADF&G) to let                                                               
them know of Chase's death and  request the tag be transferred to                                                               
a  proxy to  do the  hunt in  his honor.  The request  was denied                                                               
because  current  statute   does  not  allow  a   proxy  in  this                                                               
situation. SB 125 changes that  part of the statute. She deferred                                                               
further introduction to Mr. Harbison.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:20:36 PM                                                                                                                    
INTIMAYO  HARBISON,  Staff,  Senator Natasha  von  Imhof,  Alaska                                                               
State  Legislature, Juneau,  Alaska, read  the following  sponsor                                                               
statement for SB 125 into the record:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Senate Bill  125 would allow  a hunting  permit awarded                                                                    
     by  drawing  to  be transferred  to  another  qualified                                                                    
     hunter  should the  original permit  holder die  before                                                                    
     completing the hunt.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     It is  the intent  of this  bill to put  an end  to the                                                                    
     trauma faced  by many families when,  after having lost                                                                    
     a family  member, they  are further  denied subsistence                                                                    
     rights which their deceased  family member applied for,                                                                    
     paid for, and were awarded.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     This bill pertains exclusively to  the transfer of draw                                                                    
     hunting  permits   and  would  not  impact   any  other                                                                    
     license, tag, or sport fishing vessel registration.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:21:31 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL asked if there was  a specific reason that the bill                                                               
did not also include registration permits and Tier 1 permits.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARBISON  replied the  bill was  specifically to  address the                                                               
issue that  draw permit tags  may not  be transferred to  a proxy                                                               
from a tag holder who is deceased.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR VON IMHOF asked Senator Kiehl to restate the question.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KIEHL said  he wondered  if  she had  thought about  the                                                               
universe  of  other  situations where  someone  might  pass  away                                                               
before they complete a hunt for which they had received a tag.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR VON  IMHOF replied  this is  what ADF&G  recommended when                                                               
she brought  the issue forward.  She offered to look  into adding                                                               
registration permits.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:23:25 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  HARBISON noted  a department  representative was  online and                                                               
available for questions.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:23:46 PM                                                                                                                    
NATALIE  WEBER,  Program  Coordinator II,  Division  of  Wildlife                                                               
Conservation,  Alaska  Department  of   Fish  and  Game  (ADF&G),                                                               
Palmer,  Alaska,  stated that  no  other  types of  permits  were                                                               
included because the original question  was whether the bill only                                                               
covered the  intent of  the drawing permits.  The answer  to that                                                               
question  is   yes.  She  noted   Ms.  Henke  may   have  further                                                               
information  because  she  coordinated   more  closely  with  the                                                               
sponsor's office.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:24:25 PM                                                                                                                    
RACHEL HANKE, Legislative Liaison,  Alaska Department of Fish and                                                               
Game (ADF&G), Juneau, Alaska, stated  that the idea initially was                                                               
to solve  the constituent issue,  which was for a  drawing permit                                                               
only.  There was  no discussion  about including  other types  of                                                               
registration permits.  She offered  to look into  it if  that was                                                               
the wish of the committee.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:25:06 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK opened public testimony on SB 125.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:25:17 PM                                                                                                                    
WADE  BOWERSON,  representing  self,  Anchorage,  Alaska,  stated                                                               
support for SB 125. He said he  wanted to make sure that no other                                                               
family had to endure the double  trauma his family had to endure.                                                               
He said  it was unjust  to deprive the  family of the  hunt after                                                               
they  had lost  their brother  and son.  He understands  this has                                                               
happened to more  than just his family. He related  that the bill                                                               
focused  on  a   draw  tag  because  those   are  different  than                                                               
registering for a hunt.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:26:46 PM                                                                                                                    
DANIELLE CAMPOAMORE, representing self,  Brooklyn, New York, said                                                               
when she heard  that her family was  not able to hunt  the tag by                                                               
proxy in  her cousin  Chase's honor, she  began advocating  for a                                                               
change in statute. She agreed  with previous testimony that other                                                               
bereaved  families have  been similarly  affected. She  urged the                                                               
committee to make this simple and commonsense change in the law.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:30:38 PM                                                                                                                    
AARON TRENT, representing self,  Anchorage, Alaska, stated he was                                                               
Chase's older brother,  and was calling in support of  SB 125. He                                                               
opined that  passing the bill  will impact hundreds  to thousands                                                               
of Alaskans physically and emotionally.  This would have been his                                                               
little  brother's first  big  game  hunt and  he  was excited  to                                                               
become part  of the family  tradition. Passing SB 125  will honor                                                               
his memory  and speak volumes  for the men  and women who  put in                                                               
the work  to ensure fairness  and justice. He  expressed optimism                                                               
that the bill would pass.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:32:12 PM                                                                                                                    
KELLY TRENT,  representing self, Anchorage, Alaska,  said she was                                                               
Chase  Bowerson's mom.  She  described her  youngest  child as  a                                                               
dynamic, outdoor-loving  young man who grew  up hunting, fishing,                                                               
and  camping with  his family.  She said  they always  shared the                                                               
bounty with family and friends.  Most recently the family members                                                               
each applied for a 2021 moose tag  for the same area in hopes one                                                               
would be  successful. Chase applied  for his tag on  December 14.                                                               
It was his 26th  birthday and he knew it would  bring him luck in                                                               
getting  a tag.  Three weeks  later,  her son  was murdered.  She                                                               
described it  as the worst  day of her  life. A month  after that                                                               
the  results of  the  drawing  were published,  and  Chase was  a                                                               
winner. When she  was told that the tag could  not be transferred                                                               
to  a  family  member  she  said she  was  stunned.  "I  couldn't                                                               
understand how  everything in his  estate is ours to  handle, but                                                               
the one and only thing we can't  have is his opportunity to get a                                                               
moose."                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. TRENT said she expects her  family will continue to have some                                                               
dark days  as they  continue to  deal with  their loss.  The 2021                                                               
moose hunt  would have  been a  way to honor  Chase and  help the                                                               
family  heal. If  the hunt  was successful,  the meat  would have                                                               
helped feed his grandparents, his  parents, his siblings, and his                                                               
many nieces and nephews. She said  she understands that it is too                                                               
late for  the law to  change in time for  the fall hunt,  but she                                                               
would  like to  know  that  hers is  the  last  family that  this                                                               
happens to.  She said her  son Chase always believed  in righting                                                               
any wrong and she believes this  is something he would have liked                                                               
to see  made right. It  is within  the legislature's power  to do                                                               
so.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:35:28 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   REVAK  asked   Commissioner   Vincent-Lang  whether   the                                                               
department could  issue the  tag to the  family, or  anybody else                                                               
who  was awarded  a  tag but  died  before it  was  used, if  the                                                               
committee conceptually amended the bill and made it retroactive.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:36:02 PM                                                                                                                    
DOUGLAS  VINCENT-LANG, Commissioner,  Alaska  Department of  Fish                                                               
and Game, Anchorage, Alaska, answered  he was sure the department                                                               
could make that  happen if the legislature were to  pass the bill                                                               
with a retroactivity clause.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:36:35 PM                                                                                                                    
JEFF TRENT, representing self,  Anchorage, Alaska, stated support                                                               
for  SB 125.  He  said their  son Chase  embodied  the spirit  of                                                               
Alaska. He  was developing  five acres of  homestead land  and he                                                               
loved bringing  home the wild  bounty of Alaska and  sharing with                                                               
those who  were unable to  harvest for themselves. He  was always                                                               
ready to stand  up and speak out for what  he believed, he helped                                                               
those who  were less fortunate,  and was  always ready to  try to                                                               
right wrongs.  He asked the  committee to  support SB 125  in his                                                               
son's spirit.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:38:05 PM                                                                                                                    
MARK RICHARDS,  Executive Director,  Resident Hunters  of Alaska,                                                               
Fairbanks, Alaska,  stated support for  the intent of SB  125 and                                                               
extended condolences to the Bowerson  family and friends. He said                                                               
his  reason for  testifying was  to  make two  points. The  first                                                               
point is that  the Board of Game and/or  the commissioner already                                                               
has authority under 5 AAC  92.050 to transfer certain permits. He                                                               
added that  he would  be happy  to help  the Bowersons  draft and                                                               
submit a  proposal to the  Board of Game  that asks the  board to                                                               
exercise its authority to make the transfer.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RICHARDS  said  the  second   point  is  that  the  proposed                                                               
amendment  to AS  16.05.420(c) in  Section 2  is unnecessary.  It                                                               
applies to  a locking tag  that a deceased hunter  had purchased,                                                               
and it only applies to some brown bear and musk ox hunts.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
He thanked Senator von Imhof for sponsoring SB 125.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:40:20 PM                                                                                                                    
TERESA  CAMPOAMORE, representing  self,  Anchorage, Alaska,  said                                                               
the  Bowersons are  family and  they all  spoke eloquently  about                                                               
Chase and  his love  of Alaska.  She said  it was  difficult when                                                               
Chase's mother  received the news  her son had been  killed. Then                                                               
when she received  the news that the hunting permit  could not be                                                               
transferred, it  was another  blow. She  thanked the  sponsor and                                                               
the committee for considering the bill.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:41:47 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  REVAK, after  discerning no  one else  wished to  comment,                                                               
closed public testimony on SB 125.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR REVAK offered his understanding  that a legislative fix was                                                               
necessary  and  advised that  he  spoke  with the  sponsor  about                                                               
offering a conceptual amendment to make the bill retroactive.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:42:32 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:44:35 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK reconvened the meeting.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:44:41 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR VON  IMHOF moved conceptual  Amendment 1 that  states the                                                               
following:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     This bill will be retroactive to apply to draw permits                                                                     
     awarded for the 2021 hunting season.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:44:53 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  REVAK  found  no  objection  and  conceptual  Amendment  1                                                               
passed. Finding  no further  amendments, questions,  or comments,                                                               
he solicited a motion.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:45:20 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BISHOP moved to report  SB 125, work order 32-LS0626\B as                                                               
amended,  from  committee  with  individual  recommendations  and                                                               
attached fiscal note(s).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:45:39 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK  found no  objection and  CSSB 125(RES)  was reported                                                               
from the Senate Resources Standing Committee.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:45:50 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        SB 113-EXTEND FISHERY RESOURCE LAND. TAX CREDIT                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:47:39 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   REVAK   reconvened   the  meeting   and   announced   the                                                               
consideration  of  SENATE BILL  NO.  113  "An Act  extending  the                                                               
fishery resource  landing tax credit  for certain  taxpayers that                                                               
harvest  fishery resources  under the  provisions of  a community                                                               
development quota;  providing for  an effective date  by amending                                                               
the effective  date of sec. 36,  ch. 61, SLA 2014;  and providing                                                               
for an effective date."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:48:00 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DONNY  OLSON, Alaska  State Legislature,  Juneau, Alaska,                                                               
sponsor of  SB 113,  explained the  bill extends  the termination                                                               
date  of the  fishery resource  tax credit.  This will  allow the                                                               
Western  Alaska  Community  Development Quota  (CDQ)  Program  to                                                               
continue  its  essential  function  to  many  of  Alaska's  rural                                                               
coastal villages. The program is  based on the landing tax credit                                                               
for fish, which provides economic  development in Western Alaska.                                                               
He reminded members that they  heard and passed an identical bill                                                               
last year, but it did not  make it through the process before the                                                               
legislature adjourned  due to the  COVID-19 pandemic.  The sunset                                                               
was in 2020 and SB 113 seeks  to revive and extend the program to                                                               
2030.  He noted  who  was  available to  speak  on  the bill  and                                                               
deferred further introduction to Mr. Truitt.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:49:15 PM                                                                                                                    
KEN  TRUITT,  Staff,  Senator Olson,  Alaska  State  Legislature,                                                               
Juneau, Alaska, stated the bill  last year was a sunset extension                                                               
bill. This year  SB 113 is identical in form,  and it extends the                                                               
Western Alaska  Community Development  Quota Program  to December                                                               
31, 2030.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:49:51 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR VON  IMHOF described SB 113  as fairly simple and  a good                                                               
bill.  She  paraphrased  the  final   paragraph  of  the  sponsor                                                               
statement that read as follows:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     The  Department  of  Revenue  and  Legislative  Finance                                                                    
     Division states  that the  legislative intent  has been                                                                    
     met  and   recommended  continuation  of   the  program                                                                    
     (January  2019 Indirect  Expenditure Report,  page 14).                                                                    
     The estimated Revenue Impact for  FY2013- FY2017 was an                                                                    
     average of  $553,558.60, while  no revenue  is foregone                                                                    
     by  the  state.  This   tax  credit  program  continues                                                                    
     serving its  purpose by attracting donations  each year                                                                    
     to Alaska nonprofit corporations  that are dedicated to                                                                    
     continually improving our fisheries.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:50:09 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK opened public testimony on SB 113.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:50:37 PM                                                                                                                    
NORM VAN  VACTOR, President and Chief  Executive Officer, Bristol                                                               
Bay   Economic  Development   Corporation  (BBEDC),   Dillingham,                                                               
Alaska, thanked the sponsor for  introducing SB 113 to extend the                                                               
sunset date  for the fisheries  landing tax credit  for taxpayers                                                               
that  harvest resources  under the  provisions  of the  Community                                                               
Development Quota Program.  He related that BBEDC was  one of the                                                               
six   Alaska  CDQ   corporations;   it   represents  17   coastal                                                               
communities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.   VAN  VACTOR   stated  the   CDQ  Program   provides  Alaska                                                               
communities along  the Bering  Sea coast  with harvest  quotas in                                                               
the  federal  water  fisheries of  the  exclusive  economic  zone                                                               
(EEZ).  The  returns are  invested  in  the fisheries,  fisheries                                                               
programs,   and   regional   development  programs   to   provide                                                               
employment   and   educational    opportunities   for   community                                                               
residents.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  VAN   VACTOR  explained  that  BBEDC's   for-profit  fishing                                                               
partners  who  are  harvesting  the CDQ  quota  are  eligible  to                                                               
participate  in the  tax  credit program.  BBEDC  relies on  this                                                               
program  to  supplement  the Bristol  Bay  Science  and  Research                                                               
Institute  and BBEDC's  collaborative  work with  ADF&G. He  said                                                               
these efforts  are critical in providing  stable research funding                                                               
that  directly benefits  the  state, region,  and  health of  the                                                               
salmon  resource. Extending  the  program to  2030 would  provide                                                               
stability  for  long term  planning  in  the region  and  further                                                               
solidifies the  collaborative work  with ADF&G and  other members                                                               
of the Bristol Bay collaborative.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:52:58 PM                                                                                                                    
JENNIFER  WILLIAMS,  Government  Affairs, Yukon  Delta  Fisheries                                                               
Development  Association (YDFDA),  Anchorage, Alaska,  stated the                                                               
YDFDA is the CDQ entity  that represents 3,400 residents from six                                                               
communities in the Yukon Delta.  The CDQ program provides fishery                                                               
and economic benefits to resident  fishermen, their families, and                                                               
the  entire  region,  which  is  one  of  the  most  economically                                                               
challenged in  the U.S. She  related that YDFDA uses  the Fishery                                                               
Resource  Landing  Tax  Program   to  offset  the  amounts  spent                                                               
annually to support  fishery research and monitor  studies on the                                                               
Yukon  River  in collaboration  with  ADF&G.  Area residents  are                                                               
employed to  every extent possible.  She described  the different                                                               
test fishing  and monitoring activities  on the Lower  Yukon that                                                               
the  credits help  pay for  and noted  the data  from these  test                                                               
fisheries  are used  to predict  both commercial  and subsistence                                                               
openings.   She  emphasized   the   value   of  this   scientific                                                               
information  to both  ADF&G  and the  economic  wellbeing of  the                                                               
region.  She expressed  appreciation  for this  well-administered                                                               
program and urged the legislature to extend the sunset date.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:56:04 PM                                                                                                                    
HEATHER MCCARTY,  representative, Central Bering  Sea Fishermen's                                                               
Association (CBSFA),  St. Paul,  Alaska, stated  CBSFA is  one of                                                               
the six  CDQ groups and the  one that represents St.  Paul in the                                                               
Pribilof  Islands. She  said the  community depends  on both  the                                                               
small boat  halibut fishery  and the crab  fishery in  the Bering                                                               
Sea, and has  relied heavily on the program  since inception. She                                                               
related  that  CBSFA has  not  only  conducted  a great  deal  of                                                               
research on  both halibut and crab,  they also have been  able to                                                               
fund  a college  scholarship program.  She stated  hearty support                                                               
for SB 113 and the extension of the tax credit program.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:57:13 PM                                                                                                                    
ANGEL   DROBNICA,   representative,  Aleutian   Pribilof   Island                                                               
Community  Development  Association   (APICDA),  Juneau,  Alaska,                                                               
stated  APICDA represents  six  remote  communities in  Southwest                                                               
Alaska and  is one of  the six CDQ  entities whose mission  is to                                                               
increase  direct participation  in  the Bering  Sea and  Aleutian                                                               
Islands  fisheries, and  help  develop  a sustainable  fisheries-                                                               
based economy.  She explained APICDA  uses the  revenue generated                                                               
from  its  quota holdings  and  fisheries  investments to  create                                                               
jobs,  build infrastructure,  provide scholarships  and workforce                                                               
training,  and help  support  a range  of  local initiatives  and                                                               
projects with grant programs to  eligible community entities. She                                                               
stated support  for SB 113  and the continuation of  the Resource                                                               
Landing Tax Credit Program. Under  this program, APICDA's harvest                                                               
partners have  the opportunity  to attribute  a portion  of their                                                               
landing  tax liability  from the  harvest  of the  CDQ quota  for                                                               
Pacific  fisheries investments.  She said  this has  been a  very                                                               
meaningful  program  and  APICDA   encourages  the  committee  to                                                               
advance the bill.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:58:38 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK  discerned that  no one else  wished to  comment, and                                                               
closed public testimony on SB 113.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR REVAK found no questions or  comments and asked the will of                                                               
the committee.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:59:06 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR VON IMHOF moved to report SB 113, work order 32-                                                                        
LS0719\A,  from  committee  with individual  recommendations  and                                                               
attached fiscal note(s).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:59:21 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK found  no objection and SB 113 moved  from the Senate                                                               
Resources Standing Committee.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
         SB 59-SALTWATER SPORTFISHING OPERATORS/GUIDES                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:00:03 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK  announced the  consideration of  SENATE BILL  NO. 59                                                               
"An Act relating  to salt water sport fishing  operators and salt                                                               
water  sport  fishing  guides; and  providing  for  an  effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:00:17 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:00:51 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  REVAK reconvened  the meeting  and asked  for a  motion to                                                               
adopt  the committee  substitute  (CS). He  related  that the  CS                                                               
makes no substantive changes; rather,  it conforms the governor's                                                               
bill to Legislative Legal Services drafting conventions.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:01:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BISHOP moved  to adopt the work draft CS  for SB 59, work                                                               
order 32-GS1608\B, as the working document.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:01:26 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK found no objection and version B was adopted.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:01:43 PM                                                                                                                    
DOUGLAS  VINCENT-LANG, Commissioner,  Alaska  Department of  Fish                                                               
and  Game,  Anchorage, Alaska,  reminded  the  members that  this                                                               
committee heard the bill last year  but did not act on it because                                                               
the  legislature adjourned  early due  to COVID-19.  He explained                                                               
that the bill  reinstates the salt water  licensing and reporting                                                               
requirements, but  does not reinstate  the fresh  water licensing                                                               
and reporting requirements.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  VINCENT-LANG explained  that the  legislature first                                                               
adopted the  sport fishing guide  and operator licenses  in 2003-                                                               
2004 and  these remained in  effect until the sunset  on December                                                               
31,  2014.  Both fresh  and  salt  water guides  initially  urged                                                               
passage of  the legislation as  a means of  professionalizing the                                                               
industry.   Just  the   salt   water   licensing  and   reporting                                                               
requirements  were reinstated  during  the 2015-2016  legislative                                                               
session with  a sunset of  2018. He  said the bridge  funding the                                                               
legislature provided after  the 2018 sunset is gone  and there is                                                               
no  legislation in  place  to collect  the fees  to  pay for  the                                                               
marine  log  book  program.   Nevertheless,  the  department  has                                                               
continued  the log  book program  under the  registration program                                                               
that was adopted through the Alaska Board of Fisheries.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:04:21 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER VINCENT-LANG  stated the  log book data  is critical                                                               
to  fulfill  Pacific  Salmon Treaty  obligations  and  to  inform                                                               
decisions  by the  International  Halibut  Commission, the  North                                                               
Pacific Fishery  Management Council, and the  Board of Fisheries.                                                               
The  fees that  are  collected  will be  used  to manage  charter                                                               
fisheries in  Alaska that  contribute more  than $1.5  million to                                                               
the state's economy. He concluded  that the department sees SB 59                                                               
as a necessary tool to fund and manage salt water fisheries.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:05:40 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KAWASAKI  asked how  the  log  book program  was  funded                                                               
initially.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  VINCENT-LANG explained  that the  program initially                                                               
was funded through the legislation  that licensed fresh water and                                                               
salt water  guides. When  the program  was reintroduced  for just                                                               
salt water,  the guide and  operator licensing fees paid  for the                                                               
log book program.  When that was sunset in  2018, the legislature                                                               
provided some  bridge funding for  the program. That  funding ran                                                               
out and the department is  now using department funds to continue                                                               
the log book program.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:06:30 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL  asked if  there  was  any possibility  that  this                                                               
applies to bare boat charters.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER VINCENT-LANG answered not at this time.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  REVAK  asked  Ms.  Hanke to  walk  through  the  sectional                                                               
analysis.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:06:56 PM                                                                                                                    
RACHEL  HANKE,   Legislative   Liaison,   Alaska  Department   of                                                               
Fish  and  Game,  Anchorage,  Alaska,  presented  the  sectional                                                                
analysis  for SB 59  [Original punctuation  provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1:                                                                                                               
       Establishes license fees for saltwater guides and                                                                        
     operators.                                                                                                                 
        • Guide license-$200                                                                                                    
        • Operator license-$400                                                                                                 
        • Operator and guide combined license-$400                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2:                                                                                                               
     AS 16.40.262-provides stipulations for the salt water                                                                      
     operator license and defines the license type.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3:                                                                                                               
     AS 16.40.272-provides stipulations for the salt water                                                                      
      guides and combined license and defines both license                                                                      
     types.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
    Section    4:   AS    16.40.282-establishes   reporting                                                                   
     requirements for salt water guides and operators.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section 5:                                                                                                               
     AS 16.40.292-establishes penalties for violations the                                                                      
     chapter.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section 6:                                                                                                               
      AS 16.40.301-defines "saltwater sport fishing guide"                                                                      
     and "salt water sport fishing guide services."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 7:                                                                                                               
        Adds salt water sportfishing operator and guide                                                                         
     license to AS 25.27.244(s)(2) which defines "license."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 8:                                                                                                               
     Effective date of January 1, 2022                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:08:54 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  REVAK announced  he  would  hold SB  59 in  committee  for                                                               
further  consideration.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:09:15 PM                                                                                                                    
There   being   no  further   business   to   come   before   the                                                               
committee,   Chair   Revak   adjourned    the   Senate  Resources                                                               
Standing Committee meeting at 5:09 p.m.