Legislature(2025 - 2026)BUTROVICH 205

03/11/2025 01:30 PM Senate TRANSPORTATION

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01:46:55 PM Start
01:47:32 PM Presentation(s): Port Mackenzie: Multimodal Infrastructure Development
02:45:13 PM Adjourn
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+ Port MacKenzie: Navigating Multimodal TELECONFERENCED
Transportation Infrastructure Development in the
Point MacKenzie Region
David Griffin, Port MacKenzie Operations Manager,
Matanuska-Susitna Borough
Meghan Clemens, External Affairs Director, Alaska
Railroad Corporation
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            SENATE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                          
                         March 11, 2025                                                                                         
                           1:46 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Jesse Bjorkman, Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Löki Tobin, Vice Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Jesse Kiehl                                                                                                             
Senator Mike Shower                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bert Stedman                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S): PORT MACKENZIE: MULTIMODAL INFRASTRUCTURE                                                                      
DEVELOPMENT                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MEGHAN CLEMENS, Director                                                                                                        
External Affairs                                                                                                                
Alaska Railroad Corporation (ARRC)                                                                                              
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Co-presented Port MacKenzie Multimodal                                                                    
Infrastructure Development.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DAVID GRIFFIN, Port Operations Manager                                                                                          
Port MacKenzie                                                                                                                  
Matanuska-Susitna Borough                                                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Co-presented Port MacKenzie Multimodal                                                                    
Infrastructure Development.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:46:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   BJORKMAN  called   the  Senate   Transportation  Standing                                                               
Committee meeting  to order at 1:46  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order  were Senators  Kiehl, Tobin,  and Chair  Bjorkman. Senator                                                               
Shower arrived thereafter.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S):   PORT  MACKENZIE:   MULTIMODAL  INFRASTRUCTURE                                                               
DEVELOPMENT                                                                                                                     
   PRESENTATION(S): PORT MACKENZIE: MULTIMODAL INFRASTRUCTURE                                                               
                          DEVELOPMENT                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:47:32 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   BJORKMAN  announced   the  presentation   Port  MacKenzie                                                               
Multimodal Infrastructure Development.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:48:38 PM                                                                                                                    
DAVID   GRIFFIN,  Port   Operations   Manager,  Port   MacKenzie,                                                               
Matanuska-Susitna Borough, Anchorage,  Alaska, introduced himself                                                               
and gave a brief overview  of the presentation structure. He said                                                               
that  Port MacKenzie  and  the  surrounding (borough-owned)  port                                                               
district  lands -  is a  multimodal gateway  to Southcentral  and                                                               
Interior Alaska.  He described how  the location attracts  a wide                                                               
variety of  maritime industry  operators and  business interests.                                                               
He noted that  other ports in the region  are experiencing (among                                                               
other   things)   congestion   and  issues   related   to   aging                                                               
infrastructure   and  indicated   that  Port   MacKenzie  is   an                                                               
alternative that  can meet  operators' needs.  He said  that Port                                                               
MacKenzie  seen   an  increase  in  business   from  several  new                                                               
operators  and briefly  described  these. He  discussed how  Port                                                               
MacKenzie  has   been  utilized  by  the   military  and  offered                                                               
examples.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:52:18 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GRIFFIN shared  about the  Pile  Sleeve Protection  Project,                                                               
which is  expected to add  25 years to the  life of the  dock. He                                                               
briefly   discussed   additional   dock   upgrades.   He   shared                                                               
information  on the  design process  for the  new barge  haul-out                                                               
facility.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:53:54 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN  advanced to  slide 2,  which shows  a map  of Alaska                                                               
with Cook Inlet  circled in red. He noted that  Port MacKenzie is                                                               
situated at the top of the circle.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:54:10 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN advanced  to slide 3, which shows a  map of the area.                                                               
Port  MacKenzie, Port  of Alaska,  Knik Arm,  Turnagain Arm,  and                                                               
Upper Cook Inlet  are labeled on the map. He  explained that Port                                                               
MacKenzie is  located at the  base of the  Knik Arm. The  port is                                                               
subject to  extreme tidal fluctuations  (30 feet per  tide cycle,                                                               
on average) as a result of  its location. He noted that the water                                                               
is silty, cold, and can contain ice at times.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:54:51 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN  advanced to slide  4, which shows a  regional access                                                               
map indicating  Port MacKenzie's current and  proposed access. He                                                               
noted  that Port  MacKenzie  is outlined  in  red (roughly  9,000                                                               
acres). He  said that acreage  surrounding the port  is dedicated                                                               
to  industrial  use  in  support  of  the  port.  He  noted  that                                                               
additional  land could  be  utilized for  port  expansion in  the                                                               
future.  He explained  that Port  MacKenzie  is approximately  90                                                               
miles from  Anchorage by road.  He briefly described the  path to                                                               
the port  from Anchorage  and the surrounding  area. The  road is                                                               
paved and  the port has power.  He noted the green  hatch-line on                                                               
the map,  which is the  Port MacKenzie Rail Extension  (PMRE). He                                                               
briefly discussed the status of  PMRE. He noted the yellow hatch-                                                               
line,  which  is  the  West  Susitna  Access  Route.  He  briefly                                                               
discussed the status and benefits of this route.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:57:54 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GRIFFIN advanced  to  slide 5,  which shows  a  map of  Port                                                               
MacKenzie current and proposed access.  He explained the location                                                               
of Port MacKenzie  in relation to Fairbanks. He  stated that Port                                                               
MacKenzie is  the only port that  can service the export  of bulk                                                               
commodities.  He  briefly  discussed   the  ports  in  Anchorage,                                                               
Seward, and  Whittier and emphasized  that Port MacKenzie  is the                                                               
natural fit for exporting natural resources.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:59:51 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN advanced to slide  6, a photo illustrating the 2-mile                                                               
distance between  Port MacKenzie  and the Port  of Alaska.  He He                                                               
stated that  Port MacKenzie differs  from the Port  of Anchorage.                                                               
He explained  that Port MacKenzie  is an industrial port  and was                                                               
originally planned  as a bulk  commodity export port.  Wood chips                                                               
were previously shipped  to Asia, where they  were processed into                                                               
paper. He  briefly discussed  the surrounding  maritime industry,                                                               
pointing out that skilled labor and equipment is nearby.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:00:45 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN  advanced to  slide 7, an  image of  containers being                                                               
loaded onto a Seatac Marine Services barge.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:01:02 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN advanced to slide 8,  an image of Port MacKenzie with                                                               
the barge  dock and deep draft  dock labeled. He noted  the small                                                               
size  of  the  port,  which  was originally  built  in  2000  and                                                               
expanded  in 2004  and  2010. He  briefly  discussed the  various                                                               
aspects of the dock and their uses.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:02:32 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GRIFFIN advanced  to slide  9, an  image of  a paved  access                                                               
road, high  mast lights, gravel pad,  three-phase power, terminal                                                               
building,  and dock.  He noted  that the  port is  utilized year-                                                               
round. He  shared that the first  ship to dock at  Port MacKenzie                                                               
docked in winter 2005.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:03:00 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN advanced to slide  10, which describes the deep draft                                                               
dock and contains  an image of the JP Azure.  This is the largest                                                               
ship  to dock  at  the  port. The  deep  draft  dock consists  of                                                               
trestle,   platform,  catwalk,   lighting,  breasting   dolphins,                                                               
mooring dolphins,  motorized capstans, and quick  release mooring                                                               
hooks.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:03:27 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN  advanced to slide  11, an  image of the  barge dock.                                                               
The barge dock  is 375' long to  20' at MLLW. He  noted the large                                                               
pile  of  Peruvian  salt  in  the image,  which  was  part  of  a                                                               
Department  of  Transportation   and  Public  Facilities  (DOTPF)                                                               
winter maintenance contract. He  briefly explained the process of                                                               
transporting this  product, which is  similar to a hub  and spoke                                                               
model.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:04:04 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GRIFFIN   advanced  to  slide   12,  an  image  of   a  Cruz                                                               
Construction, Inc. barge and a bow  ramp at high tide. He briefly                                                               
described the  products transported  Cruz Construction,  Inc. and                                                               
the company's transport timeline.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:04:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN  advanced to  slide 13, an  image of  several vessels                                                               
(barge, cargo vessel, etc.) at the  dock at high tide. He pointed                                                               
out  that,  in the  image,  all  three  berths were  occupied  by                                                               
different operators.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:05:06 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN  advanced to slide  14, a map titled,  Port MacKenzie                                                               
Area Overview  - land status.  He said  that the area  contains a                                                               
great  deal of  private property.  He  surmised that  this is  an                                                               
indicator  that growth  will continue.  The map  legend indicates                                                               
the  following  land  ownership: Borough,  Mental  Health  Trust,                                                               
Native Corporations,  Public University,  State, No  Data (likely                                                               
State), and  Private. The Port  District boundary is  outlined in                                                               
red. Proposed Knik Arm Bridge  and Toll Authority (KABATA) Right-                                                               
of-way (ROW)  and Port MacKenzie  Rail Extension (PMRE)  are also                                                               
indicated.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:06:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN  advanced to slide  15, a map titled,  Port MacKenzie                                                               
Area  Overview  -  land  status,  zoomed  in  to  show  the  land                                                               
ownership  that  falls  within  the area.  He  commented  on  the                                                               
potential opportunity  in this area.  He stated that the  land is                                                               
zoned  as industrial/commercial.  He  briefly  discussed the  map                                                               
focal points, noting the Chugach Electric substation.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:07:30 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN  advanced to  slides 16  and 17.  Slide 16  shows the                                                               
Atlas and the Dalarna (June 2020)  in port at high tide. This ish                                                               
is  contrasted with  Slide 17,  which shows  the Industrial  Brio                                                               
(390' Long  x 64'  Wide, 25'  Draft) at low  tide. Slide  17 also                                                               
indicates deep  draft dock  piles that are  exposed at  low tide.                                                               
Tidal  fluctuations  average 30'  or  more  per tide  cycle.  The                                                               
outgoing tide  (ebb) speed  is 5-7  knots. Incoming  tide (flood)                                                               
average speed is 3-4 knots. He  stated that the water is cold and                                                               
contains sediments.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:08:16 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GRIFFIN  advanced to  slide  18,  an  image of  the  Keoyang                                                               
Majesty, in dock  on February 3, 2005. He said  this is the first                                                               
ship  to  dock  at  Port  MacKenzie.  He  noted  that  ships  can                                                               
successfully be brough to port in the winter.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:08:41 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN  advanced to slide  19, an  image of dredging  with a                                                               
symbol  indicating that  dredging is  prohibited or  unnecessary.                                                               
The text  reads: dredging is  not required at Port  MacKenzie. He                                                               
explained  that  one  of  the  reasons for  this  is  the  port's                                                               
location.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:08:54 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN advanced  to slide 20, which shows a  map of the Knik                                                               
Arm,  Port MacKenzie  and Cairn  Point JBER.  Port MacKenzie  and                                                               
Cairn Point JBER form a  naturally scoured channel. He noted that                                                               
the currents  in this  area are strong  but manageable.  He added                                                               
that an  upcoming navigational  assessment would  provide updated                                                               
information about  the currents.  Yearly bathymetric  studies are                                                               
also done.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:09:32 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFI  advanced to  slide 21,  an image  of the  Pile Sleeve                                                               
Project, summer  2024. He  explained that  the sleeves  are heavy                                                               
gauge steel that surround the pile and provide protection.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:10:14 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GRIFFIN advanced  to slide  22, an  additional image  of the                                                               
Pile  Sleeve Project.  He said  that  this is  a best  management                                                               
practice.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:10:22 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GRIFFIN  advanced to  slide  23,  an  aerial image  of  Port                                                               
MacKenzie  with planned  barge dock  updates  outlined. He  noted                                                               
that the  barge haul-out facility  would be located on  the north                                                               
side of the barge dock. The  ramp would be approximately 300 feet                                                               
long and  200 feet wide, with  a 7 percent grade.  The ramp would                                                               
be made  of rock and  would not  contain any steel.  He explained                                                               
that this  would allow the port  to haul barges out  of the water                                                               
and  store  them  over  the  winter.  He  briefly  discussed  the                                                               
benefits of this.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:10:44 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN advanced to slide 24,  a photo of the John Wormlinger                                                               
barge.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:11:16 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GRIFFIN  advanced  to  slide  25, an  aerial  view  of  Port                                                               
MacKenzie with various updates noted in red.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:11:36 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GRIFFIN  advanced to  slide  26,  a  map of  Port  MacKenzie                                                               
current and proposed access.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:11:45 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GRIFFIN advanced  to slide  27,  a conceptual  image of  the                                                               
proposed Knik Arm bridge project.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:12:01 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GRIFFIN advanced  to slide  28,  a conceptual  image of  the                                                               
proposed  Knik Arm  bridge project.  He shared  his understanding                                                               
that  the state  is composing  a feasibility  study for  a tunnel                                                               
instead of  a bridge and  expressed interest in the  findings. He                                                               
reiterated  that  the  upland area  surrounding  the  dock  could                                                               
potentially be developed in the future.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:12:33 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GRIFFIN advanced  to  slide  29, a  map  depicting the  West                                                               
Susitna  Access Road.  He briefly  discussed this  100-mile road,                                                               
which  would  bring ore  to  the  Port  District. This  would  be                                                               
processed on-site or shipped elsewhere for processing.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:13:00 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN advanced to slide 30, images of construction.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:13:05 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GRIFFIN   advanced  to  slide   31,  an   Alaska  Industrial                                                               
Development and Export Authority (AIDEA)  map of the West Susitna                                                               
Access project. He noted land  status, mineral claims, and access                                                               
routes in the area. He noted the various land ownerships.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:13:48 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GRIFFIN advanced  to slide  32,  a map  indicating the  West                                                               
Susitna Access alternative.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:13:59 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN  advanced to slide  33, a  map of the  Port MacKenzie                                                               
Rail Extension  (PMRE). He  said PMRE  is approximately  32 miles                                                               
long  and connects  Houston, Alaska/Miller's  Reach Road  to Port                                                               
MacKenzie.  He briefly  discussed the  area's topography  and the                                                               
construction of the rail.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:14:48 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN  advanced to slide  34, an  aerial image of  the Port                                                               
MacKenzie Rail Extension. The slide  states that the extension is                                                               
18 miles to mainline.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:15:00 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN  advanced to slide  35, a  map of the  Port MacKenzie                                                               
Rail  Extension  construction  status. There  are  six  segments.                                                               
Segment six begins in Houston (Y).  This section has track and is                                                               
currently in  use. He briefly  discussed the  following segments,                                                               
noting that  the section from segment  6 to [W. Ayrshire  Ave] is                                                               
completed  (i.e.   bridges  and  embankment  are   completed  for                                                               
segments 3-5). Segment 2 is incomplete. Segment 1 is completed.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:15:56 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN advanced to slide 36,  an image of the SW segment (5,                                                               
6) of  the Port MacKenzie  Rail Extension. The slide  states that                                                               
it is 18 miles to Titan Plant.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:16:14 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN advanced to slide 37,  showing a SW view of Segment 5                                                               
of the Port MacKenzie Rail Extension.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:16:18 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN  advanced to  slide 38,  showing Port  MacKenzie Rail                                                               
Extension Segment 4.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:16:20 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN  advanced to  slide 39,  showing Port  MacKenzie Rail                                                               
Extension Segment 3.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:16:23 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN  advanced to  slide 40,  showing Port  MacKenzie Rail                                                               
Exension Segment 2. He noted  that this segment contains farmland                                                               
and stated  that the section on  the right is the  cleared right-                                                               
of-way, where the embankment would be constructed.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:16:41 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN  advanced to  slide 41,  showing Port  MacKenzie Rail                                                               
Extension Segment 1/2.  This is where segment 2  meets segment 1.                                                               
the image is looking north.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:16:53 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GRIFFIN advanced  to slide  42, an  image of  Port MacKenzie                                                               
Rail Extension Segment 1 Rail Loop.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:17:00 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN  advanced to  slide 43,  an aerial  view of  the Port                                                               
MacKenzie Rail Extension  Rail Loop. The PMRE Rail Loop  is on an                                                               
approximately 80 acre parcel and is approximately 1 mile long.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:17:14 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GRIFFIN  advanced to  slide  44,  an  aerial image  of  Port                                                               
MacKenzie.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:17:18 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN  advanced to slide  45, a  map of the  Port MacKenzie                                                               
Current  and Proposed  Access,  highlighting  the Port  MacKenzie                                                               
Rail Extension (under construction).                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:17:22 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN advanced to slide 46, contact information.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:17:29 PM                                                                                                                    
MEGHAN  CLEMENS,  Director,  External  Affairs,  Alaska  Railroad                                                               
Corporation  (ARRC),  Anchorage,  Alaska, said  ARRC  has  worked                                                               
closely with  the ports and  Mat-Su Borough on the  PMRE project.                                                               
She noted  that there  are updates since  the ARRC  presented its                                                               
overview  to the  Senate Transportation  Standing Committee.  She                                                               
stated  that ARRC  would  ultimately own  and  operate PMRE.  She                                                               
emphasized  the  relevance  to Port  MacKenzie,  the  surrounding                                                               
area, and  the state. She said  this is reflected in  the state's                                                               
investment in  the project and  noted that over $180  million has                                                               
been invested  and a  large amount of  significant work  has been                                                               
completed.  She acknowledged  that the  project has  been dormant                                                               
for the  past 10  years as  a result  of budget  constraints. She                                                               
stated that ARRC and the  Mat-Su Borough have remained engaged in                                                               
seeking   opportunities   to   advance  the   project;   however,                                                               
construction has not yet resumed.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:19:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. CLEMENS stated  that in 2021, ARRC submitted  a federal grant                                                               
application  to build  the  extension from  the  mainline to  the                                                               
Titan  Plant.  This  would have  allowed  liquified  natural  gas                                                               
transport  to   the  interior.  However,  this   effort  was  not                                                               
successful.  This market  is no  longer  available. However,  she                                                               
said  that ARRC  is looking  into other  grant opportunities  and                                                               
potential customers.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:19:52 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. CLEMENS  briefly discussed the  remaining work to be  done on                                                               
PMRE. The majority  of the embankment work  is complete; however,                                                               
one section  is incomplete. She  surmised that grade  repairs and                                                               
sub ballast  repairs are needed  after 10 years of  dormancy. She                                                               
noted that the  Y-section (in segment 6)  and communications also                                                               
need work.  Work is also needed  near the port. An  estimate done                                                               
at  the  end of  2023  determined  that an  additional  $275-$300                                                               
million  is required  to complete  the project.  She acknowledged                                                               
that this  is a large amount  and indicated that ARRC  would take                                                               
advantage  of  available grants  for  this  project. She  briefly                                                               
discussed  the  grants  that  ARRC   would  apply  for.  ARRC  is                                                               
considering ways to  meet match requirements. She  said that ARRC                                                               
is considering  ways to replicate  the model used for  the Seward                                                               
passenger  dock   replacement  project  for  PMRE.   She  briefly                                                               
discussed the  search for an  anchor tenant and  offered examples                                                               
to  illustrate  the  volume  needed.   She  said  that  ARRC  has                                                               
partnered  with Port  MacKenzie, Representative  McCabe, and  the                                                               
Mat-Su Borough to reach out  to customers and businesses to gauge                                                               
interest. A number of customers  are interested in utilizing PMRE                                                               
for incidental moves.  She indicated that this  is not sufficient                                                               
to fund the rail.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:24:53 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. CLEMENS said that a  small number of customers indicated that                                                               
they would  move current  operations to  Port MacKenzie  if track                                                               
were  already  in place.  This  would  provide one-third  of  the                                                               
needed  volume. She  indicated that  this could  potentially grow                                                               
with time. A  small group of large projects are  currently in the                                                               
conceptual/planning  stage  but  could  potentially  provide  the                                                               
volume needed.  She stated  that bonding  would be  difficult for                                                               
ARRC  without  an  anchor tenant.  ARRC  will  continue  business                                                               
outreach and continue looking for customers.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:26:20 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL asked about past coal transport.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:26:38 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. CLEMENS replied that the  Usibelli coal mine in Healy, Alaska                                                               
sent coal  to the dock in  Seward. She stated that  at the height                                                               
of  the market,  ARRC hauled  over 1  million tons  of coal.  She                                                               
explained  that changes  in  the global  market  for export  coal                                                               
impacted the mine. The equipment used  to handle coal at the dock                                                               
has been  dismantled. She acknowledged  that this is  one example                                                               
of a high-volume customer that could meet the model.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:27:47 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  SHOWER commented  that  there is  a  resurgence of  coal                                                               
market.  He shared  his understanding  that the  coal mine  would                                                               
need to purchase rail cars.  He emphasized the importance of PMRE                                                               
for  economic growth  and state  activity  and acknowledged  that                                                               
without funding, the project cannot  proceed. With respect to the                                                               
anchor tenant, he  asked about the business plan  model. He asked                                                               
about US Coast  Guard. He asked about tax impact  for acreage. He                                                               
asked about the  short line railroad potentially  taking over the                                                               
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:30:02 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GRIFFIN  replied that,  with  respect  to an  anchor  tenant                                                               
and/or   businesses,  the   Mat-Su   Borough   has  shared   this                                                               
information  with ARRC.  The  Mat-Su Borough  and  ARRC have  met                                                               
regularly  over  the  past  few  months  to  discuss  this.  Port                                                               
MacKenzie  has  one  agreement  in  place,  with  Central  Alaska                                                               
Energy. He  briefly discussed  this agreement.  He said  the port                                                               
has struggled  with the  question of an  anchor tenant.  He noted                                                               
that a  fuels company recently  expressed interest  and described                                                               
how  they would  utilize the  port and  rail extension.  He noted                                                               
discussion  about expanding  cement import,  which would  utilize                                                               
the rail.  However, there is  nothing firm. He  noted discussions                                                               
with  the  Ambler Mine  and  hydrogen  fuel companies  that  have                                                               
expressed  interest. He  stated that  the borough  is considering                                                               
all long-term agreements. He opined  that an increase in resource                                                               
production could provide business for  the rail (both to and from                                                               
the  port). He  said one  company is  interested in  drilling for                                                               
ammonia in  the Houston, Alaska area.  The rail would be  used to                                                               
move  the ammonia  to the  port  for export.  He reiterated  that                                                               
there are  many potential projects to  consider; however, nothing                                                               
is firm.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:34:12 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN  he that he  has not spoken  with the US  Coast Guard                                                               
but would be welcome this  discussion. He commented that there is                                                               
room for a base in the surrounding area.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:34:48 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR SHOWER shared  his understanding that the  US Coast Guard                                                               
is interested in this.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:35:05 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  CLEMENS echoed  Mr. Griffin's  appreciation for  the ongoing                                                               
meetings  and  open communication  between  ARRC  and the  Mat-Su                                                               
Borough. She  said that ARRC  is working to capture  interest and                                                               
keep  the PMRE  at  the top  of mind  for  potential clients  and                                                               
stakeholders. She noted the economic  benefits and resiliency and                                                               
emphasized that ARRC  is considering all avenues  that would lead                                                               
to completion of PMRE.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:36:52 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. CLEMENS turned to the question  about the Short Line and said                                                               
ARRC is open to opportunities  to partner with others to complete                                                               
the rail  extension. She briefly  discussed the  right-of-way and                                                               
said there  is no obstacle to  working with a private  rail line.                                                               
She said that,  in the case of a partnership,  ARRC would seek to                                                               
understand any  drastically different estimates in  order to come                                                               
to a shared understanding of the proposed final infrastructure.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:37:34 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL asked about toll structure and fees.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:37:47 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN  replied that there  is a  tariff. This is  the third                                                               
version and  was approved by  the borough assembly. He  said this                                                               
includes dockage  and wharfage fees and  briefly discussed these,                                                               
providing  examples.   He  estimated  that  each   ship  at  Port                                                               
MacKenzie pays  $100,000. He contrasted  this with  barges, which                                                               
pay fewer  dockage fees. He  explained that Port MacKenzie  is an                                                               
enterprise fund.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:39:23 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL  asked whether  the  tariff  structure factors  in                                                               
depreciation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:39:32 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GRIFFIN said  Port MacKenzie  works through  the borough  on                                                               
depreciation.  He  explained  that  setting up  the  port  as  an                                                               
enterprise fund  was one way  to factor in depreciation.  He said                                                               
the port is self-supporting and not tax supported.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:39:58 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR SHOWER  asked whether  Port MacKenzie/the  Mat-Su Borough                                                               
has  discussed  potential  funding  with  Alaska's  congressional                                                               
delegation.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:40:26 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN  replied yes. He opined  that the rail plays  a large                                                               
role in  making Alaska more  capable and said  conversations have                                                               
focused on ways to fund the completion of PMRE.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:41:17 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. CLEMENS  concurred and added  that ARRC has  remained engaged                                                               
with the  congressional delegation on this  issue. She reiterated                                                               
that ARRC will continue to seek federal funding through grants.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:41:45 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN asked  how materials  move from  the dock  to the                                                               
rail yard in the uplands.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:42:03 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GRIFFIN returned  to Slide 43, showing an aerial  view of the                                                               
rail loop. He explained that materials  would be moved to or from                                                               
the rail via  chassis and driven to or from  the dock. He briefly                                                               
described  the distance  between  the railway  and  the dock.  He                                                               
noted that  it also depends  on the  type of cargo.  He described                                                               
the different ways to transport various types of cargo.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:44:52 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN thanked the presenters.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:45:13 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair  Bjorkman  adjourned  the  Senate  Transportation  Standing                                                               
Committee meeting at 2:45 p.m.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

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