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02/13/2025 01:30 PM Senate TRANSPORTATION

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01:34:49 PM Start
01:35:29 PM Presentation(s): Stip Update and Construction Outlook
03:11:10 PM Adjourn
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Outlook
Ryan Anderson, Commissioner
Katherine Keith, Deputy Commissioner
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            SENATE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                          
                       February 13, 2025                                                                                        
                           1:34 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Jesse Bjorkman, Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Jesse Kiehl                                                                                                             
Senator Bert Stedman                                                                                                            
Senator Mike Shower                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Löki Tobin, Vice Chair                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S): STIP UPDATE AND CONSTRUCTION OUTLOOK                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
KATHERINE KEITH, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                            
Department of Transportation and Public Facilities (DOTPF)                                                                      
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Co-presented STIP Update and Construction                                                                 
Outlook.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DOM PANNONE, Director                                                                                                           
Administrative Services                                                                                                         
Department of Transportation and Public Facilities (DOTPF)                                                                      
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Co-presented STIP Update and Construction                                                                 
Outlook.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:34:49 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   BJORKMAN  called   the  Senate   Transportation  Standing                                                               
Committee meeting  to order at 1:34  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order were Senators Kiehl, Stedman, Shower and Chair Bjorkman.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S): STIP UPDATE AND CONSTRUCTION OUTLOOK                                                                          
     PRESENTATION(S): STIP UPDATE AND CONSTRUCTION OUTLOOK                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:35:29 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN  announced  the  presentation,  STIP  Update  and                                                               
Construction Outlook  by Deputy  Commissioner Keith  and Director                                                               
Pannone.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:36:16 PM                                                                                                                    
KATHERINE    KEITH,    Deputy   Commissioner,    Department    of                                                               
Transportation   and   Public  Facilities   (DOTPF),   Anchorage,                                                               
introduced  herself and  advanced to  Slide 2,  2025 Construction                                                               
Outlook.  Slide 2  contains an  infographic showing  DOTPF's more                                                               
than  80 projects  in over  40 communities.  She stated  that the                                                               
presentation would detail project  delivery and payments for this                                                               
season and  potential 2025  awards. She  expressed hope  that the                                                               
presentation would  give a clear  picture of DOTPF's  status with                                                               
respect to project delivery and  provide a satisfactory Statewide                                                               
Transportation  Improvement  Program  (STIP)  update  for  future                                                               
planning.  The  2025  construction   outlook  maps  and  detailed                                                               
project information are available on  the DOTPF website. The maps                                                               
are  broken   out  into  DOT  regions:   Northern,  Central,  and                                                               
Southcoast.   There  are   currently   145  active   construction                                                               
projects,  which is  an increase  from 2024.  She listed  various                                                               
airport and roadway upgrades across the state.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:40:08 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  STEDMAN  asked if  there  is  an  update on  the  Angoon                                                               
airport.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:40:20 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH said that detailed  information about the status of the                                                               
project would be provided to the committee.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:40:38 PM                                                                                                                    
DOM  PANNONE, Director,  Administrative  Services, Department  of                                                               
Transportation  and Public  Facilities, Juneau,  Alaska, advanced                                                               
to  Slide  3, Capital  Expenditures.  Slide  3 contains  a  table                                                               
showing the Program Balance Index  (PBI) and Contractor Payments.                                                               
payments, a  bar graph  of capital  expenditures ($  in millions)                                                               
for FFY  2022-2024, and a  table showing the trend  of increasing                                                               
capital expenditures  for 2022-2024.  He said  that this  tool is                                                               
used to monitor  the health of the program.  He briefly explained                                                               
how capital  programs are monitored.  He noted a  yearly increase                                                               
in funds flowing from the department.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:41:41 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN  asked   about  the  lag  time   between  when  a                                                               
contractor  completes  work and  when  they  receive payment.  He                                                               
asked for clarification about the  timing of work and payments by                                                               
fiscal year.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:42:17 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. PANNONE  said that Slide 3  shows when DOTPF issued  a check.                                                               
He explained that  average payment time for the past  year was 10                                                               
days after  receiving an invoice.  He offered  additional details                                                               
on this process.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:43:10 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN offered  an example of a  contractor not receiving                                                               
payment for work done and  asked for further clarification of the                                                               
billing and payment process.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:43:31 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  PANNONE said  that he  would need  to consider  the specific                                                               
scenario in order to offer further insight.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:43:52 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH  encouraged contractors to  contact DOTPF in  the event                                                               
of non-payment.  She said that  DOTPF works with  the Association                                                               
of  General  Contractors  (AGC)  to  ensure  prompt  payment  but                                                               
acknowledged that  sometimes issues arise. She  advanced to Slide                                                               
4,  Project  Delivery  / Construction  Contract  Payments  ($  in                                                               
millions).  Slide  4  includes   a  table  displaying  contractor                                                               
payment  estimates with  over $10  million  difference. A  second                                                               
table   shows   contractor   payments   estimated   by   regional                                                               
construction engineers &  directors whose combined transportation                                                               
experience is an  estimated 100 years. This table  is broken down                                                               
into type  of work  and delta ($  in millions).  She acknowledged                                                               
AGC  concerns about  forthcoming contractor  payments. DOTPF  has                                                               
discussed this with AGC and  is continually working to understand                                                               
discrepancies  and   concerns.  She  noted  the   differences  in                                                               
forecasted   payments:  DOTPF   $885;   Association  of   General                                                               
Contractors (AGC)  $650.2; with  a delta  of $242.1.  She briefly                                                               
discussed possible  reasons for these differences.  One reason is                                                               
related  to  payments  awarded  the  in 2024  for  work  that  is                                                               
carrying forward into 2025.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:46:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  PANNONE clarified  that the  data  presented was  calculated                                                               
using   open  contracts   awarded  in   prior  years   that  have                                                               
significant dollar amounts (and work) remaining.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:46:59 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN said  that the  conflation of  previously awarded                                                               
contracts   with  new   contracts  was   causing  concern   among                                                               
contractors.  He asked  whether Ms.  Keith or  Mr. Pannone  spoke                                                               
with AGC prior to publishing the data included on Slide 4.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:47:45 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KEITH indicated  that neither  she nor  Mr. Pannone  were in                                                               
direct   communication  with   AGC;  however,   DOTPF  (primarily                                                               
Commissioner Anderson) has been  in communication with AGC during                                                               
this process.  She offered to  provide more  detailed information                                                               
about these conversations to the committee.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:48:09 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN  encouraged more open communication  between DOTPF                                                               
and  AGC,  particularly  regarding   the  DOTPF's  reporting.  He                                                               
suggested  a clear  delineation between  new contracts  and those                                                               
that are  from prior  years, in  order to  increase understanding                                                               
and  reduce  the potential  for  miscommunication.  He said  that                                                               
contractors are wondering  if the three CMGC  contracts have been                                                               
awarded  and  whether  contractors  have  received  a  notice  to                                                               
proceed on those contracts.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:49:06 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KEITH  agreed   that  it  is  a   complicated  process.  She                                                               
emphasized that  DOTPF encourages sharing data  and transparency.                                                               
She  said  DOTPF   would  like  to  hear   from  the  contractors                                                               
expressing  concern  and  briefly   explained  how  the  contract                                                               
payments  are sometimes  misunderstood.  She expressed  confusion                                                               
about  concerns   related  to  the  health   of  the  contracting                                                               
community for 2025, as this is  not reflected in DOTPF's data and                                                               
reiterated that  increased dialogue  on this topic  between DOTPF                                                               
and contractors is welcome.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:50:09 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  PANNONE noted  that DOTPF  met with  the AGC  DOTPF steering                                                               
committee in  October of 2024. He  said that DOTPF would  like to                                                               
continue to share  data with AGC as a partner  in delivering this                                                               
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:50:31 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN shared  his understanding  that current  concerns                                                               
within the contracting  community are based on a  small number of                                                               
new  contract awards  and jobs  put out  to bid  in 2025  and not                                                               
payments  for previously  awarded  contracts. He  noted that  the                                                               
deadline  for   2025  work  is   approaching  and   relayed  that                                                               
contractors are  concerned that a lack  of new work will  make it                                                               
difficult to keep Alaskans employed.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:51:24 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KEITH said  that DOTPF  has only  received letters  from AGC                                                               
related to  contractor payments.  She added that  contract awards                                                               
would  be discussed,  as they  are critical  for future  work and                                                               
future contractor payments.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:51:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN asked whether the  three CMGC contracts on Slide 4                                                               
have been  awarded and if  contractors have received a  notice to                                                               
proceed.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:52:05 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KEITH  replied yes.  The  preconstruction  portion has  been                                                               
awarded.  She  briefly  explained   that  a  negotiation  process                                                               
determines the  scope of work  and work packages are  issued. The                                                               
work packages have  not yet been issued, as  the negotiations are                                                               
underway.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:52:33 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN asked for a timeline for those projects.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:52:42 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH reiterated that negotiations  are underway; however, an                                                               
exact date is  unknown. She indicated that the  Cape Blossom Road                                                               
project  is  delayed  due  to  a price  increase  but  will  move                                                               
forward.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:54:11 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH advanced  to Slide 5, Top  Contractor Payments FFY2021-                                                               
2024. Slide  5 contains a  bar graph showing payments  by project                                                               
and  a chart  showing  the remainder  on  contracts awarded  post                                                               
FY2021 ($  in millions). She  said that some concerns  from small                                                               
contractors  are  reflected  here.   She  pointed  out  that  the                                                               
majority of  contractor payments have  gone to a few  large firms                                                               
across  the state.  She  noted a  decline  that highlights  fewer                                                               
contractor  payments   and  greater  growth   instability  across                                                               
contractors.  She indicated  that the  companies on  the lefthand                                                               
side show growth  and success, while those on  the righthand side                                                               
show greater fluctuation. She noted  concerns from the contractor                                                               
community and indicated that DOTPF is working to address this.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:56:07 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH advanced  to Slide 6, Contractor  Payments / Difference                                                               
between  DOTPF and  AGC. Slide  6  contains a  graph showing  the                                                               
difference on  contractor payments  between DOTPF and  AGC (delta                                                               
greater than  $1 million; $  in millions). A table  of contractor                                                               
payments in FFY2025,  forecasted outlook ($ in  millions) is also                                                               
included.  The table  indicates that  contracts awarded  prior to                                                               
FFY2025 totaled  $424.9, contracts awarded or  bidding in FFY2025                                                               
total  $90.9,  Construction  Manager  General  Contractor  (CMGC)                                                               
payments total $93.7,  and $276.2 remain to be  advertised, for a                                                               
total  of $885.7  million in  contractor payments.  She explained                                                               
that  this   considers  previously  awarded  projects,   what  is                                                               
currently  being awarded  or bid,  and projects  already arranged                                                               
with CMGC.  She emphasized that  the payments have a  high degree                                                               
of certainty.  She briefly explained  the formulas used  to reach                                                               
these values. She indicated that  DOTPF continues to monitor this                                                               
and will provide updates.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:58:23 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  PANNONE advanced  to Slide  7, Project  Delivery /  Pipeline                                                               
Readiness.  Slide  7  includes tables  showing  the  Construction                                                               
Obligation Utilization  Index (COUI)  and Funding  Pipeline Index                                                               
(FPI)  for  FFY2022-2024. COUI  is  trending  downward as  change                                                               
orders  and preconstruction  commitments  reduce funds  available                                                               
for  new  awards.  FPI  is  also  trending  downwards  due  to  a                                                               
potential funding  gap and  obligations lag  active construction.                                                               
Slide  7   also  includes  bar   charts  showing  FHWA   and  FAA                                                               
obligations ($ in millions) and  Contract Awards ($ in Millions).                                                               
He  explained that  contracts awarded  in winter  receive payment                                                               
the following construction season.  He briefly explained pipeline                                                               
leading  and  lagging  indicators.  He indicated  that  DOTPF  is                                                               
working to reverse downward trends.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:59:59 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH advanced to Slide  8, Contract Awards FFY2021-24. Slide                                                               
8 includes  a bar  chart showing  these payments  alongside total                                                               
bids.  She emphasized  that many  contracts have  received change                                                               
orders that  are not  included on the  chart of  contract awards.                                                               
These  change orders  impact new  project funding.  She explained                                                               
that contract  payments are increasing  while new  project awards                                                               
are decreasing as  DOTPF works to complete  current projects. She                                                               
emphasized that this  is a balancing act and DOTPF  is working to                                                               
respond to industry concerns and uncover what is not working.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:01:32 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL referred  back  to  Slide 7  and  asked if  change                                                               
orders are responsible for the delta between award amounts.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:01:58 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH replied  no. She briefly explained some  of the factors                                                               
causing these changes.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:03:08 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  PANNONE  stated  that  change  orders  do  not  account  for                                                               
obligation  reductions.  He  explained  that  canceled  projects,                                                               
reduced  August distribution,  and late  FAA funding  led to  the                                                               
obligation reduction.  He noted  that contract  obligations could                                                               
be  affected  by  change  orders  because  obligation  funds  are                                                               
redistributed.  He   reiterated  that   change  orders   are  not                                                               
responsible for a reduction in obligations.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:04:12 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL  expressed confusion.  He  clarified  that he  was                                                               
asking  about the  obligations compared  to the  awards over  the                                                               
three years shown. He pointed out  that there is a delta for each                                                               
year and a total award decrease  of roughly $920 million than was                                                               
obligated during that  time. He surmised that if this  was due to                                                               
delays,  it would  even  out over  subsequent  years. He  further                                                               
surmised  that  this  was  not  due to  AC  and  asked  how  this                                                               
consistent delta across FFYs can be explained.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:05:17 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  PANNONE attempted  to  clarify. He  said  that the  contract                                                               
awards are  a different  lens and time  from the  obligations. He                                                               
explained  that once  funds are  obligated, they  go to  contract                                                               
award.  He  said  that  there  was a  $300  million  decrease  in                                                               
contract  awards  during that  time.  He  explained the  role  AC                                                               
played in this difference.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:06:31 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL expressed  continued confusion.  He asked  for the                                                               
starting and ending AC amounts for FFY 2022-24.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:07:07 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. PANNONE provided the following AC estimates:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Advanced Construction Estimates:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     FFY 2022: $400 million                                                                                                     
     FFY 2023: $550 million                                                                                                     
     FFY 2024: $400 million                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. PANNONE offered to provide exact numbers to the committee.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:07:41 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  said that this  answered part of his  question. He                                                               
indicated  that he  would find  a  way to  rephrase his  original                                                               
question for greater clarity.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:07:51 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH  commented that the  decline in each factor  shows that                                                               
the future pipeline  of projects is not as strong  as DOTPF would                                                               
like  it to  be  and  indicates that  the  pipeline  needs to  be                                                               
addressed. This is rebalanced by FFY 2025 projects.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:08:51 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH returned  to Slide 8 and continued  to discuss contract                                                               
awards for FFY2021-24. She briefly  discussed how contract awards                                                               
are distributed across projects  and contractors. DOTPF evaluates                                                               
how contracts are  distributed and project size.  She pointed out                                                               
that  one company  received  42 percent  of  the contract  awards                                                               
issued for the past 4 years.  She directed attention to the total                                                               
bids submitted and wondered why  contractors are not bidding. She                                                               
noted that  some larger companies  submit many bids  while others                                                               
do not have  that capacity. She surmised that  some companies are                                                               
more  successful  at  bidding.  DOTPF would  like  to  work  with                                                               
companies  to understand  the issues.  Estimates may  also be  an                                                               
issue, especially with airport projects.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:12:02 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  SHOWER  asked  for  clarification   that  the  trend  is                                                               
shifting toward fewer contractors receiving more of the awards.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:12:12 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH confirmed this understanding.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:12:22 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH advanced to Slide 9:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Forecasted Contract Awards                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Tentative Advertising Schedule (TAS)                                                                                       
       • DOTPF's Forecast of Construction Project Bidding                                                                       
        • 1 Year Time Horizon                                                                                                   
        • Strengthened Protocols This Past Year                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Timing Of Bids                                                                                                             
        • Typical Bidding Window for Upcoming Construction                                                                      
          Season                                                                                                                
             • February through May                                                                                             
             • Longer in Southeast Alaska                                                                                       
        • US Congress Staggers Release of Obligation                                                                            
          Limitation - Not Optimal for Alaska's Short                                                                           
          Construction Window                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     [Slide 9  also includes a chart,  Contract Awards: 2025                                                                    
     Forecasted  Outlook ($M)  and a  memorandum from  DOTPF                                                                    
     regarding  the  Tentative  Advertising  Schedule  (TAS)                                                                    
     protocol.]                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:13:38 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  PANNONE  said  that  he   has  received  feedback  from  AGC                                                               
regarding the important role TAS  plays in planning. He explained                                                               
that DOTPF has  developed a dashboard to  provide project details                                                               
and  notify  AGC leadership  when  project  variables change.  He                                                               
noted that  the most significant  variable is the  advertise date                                                               
and  added  that these  changes  are  evaluated daily.  DOTPF  is                                                               
moving toward a  weekly check-in to ensure  that project delivery                                                               
occurs as stated.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:14:33 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL asked about TAS accuracy.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. PANNONE  replied that  TAS is  highly accurate.  He clarified                                                               
that the dashboard tool is  monitoring how often projects change.                                                               
He said that he does not  have statistics available for how often                                                               
projects  have  shifted  but  offered  to  provide  this  to  the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:15:21 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  commented that this  would be useful.  He surmised                                                               
that TAS  is very  helpful tool  for measuring  metrics; however,                                                               
excessive  changes to  project  timelines  negatively impact  the                                                               
usefulness of the tool.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:15:39 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR SHOWER asked  about raising costs and about  the trend of                                                               
in-state  versus  out-of-state contracting  companies  performing                                                               
work.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:16:15 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH replied  that over 50 percent of  DOTPF's contracts are                                                               
awarded  to out-of-state  contracting firms.  She indicated  that                                                               
DOTPF would  like to  see this shift  to in-state  contractors if                                                               
this would ensure  a healthy contracting community  in the state.                                                               
She  stated that  one way  to do  this could  be to  break larger                                                               
projects up into smaller stages.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:17:25 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. PANNONE said that, with  respect to inflation, DOTPF utilizes                                                               
the National Highway Construction  Cost Index (NHCCI). This shows                                                               
nationwide  highway infrastructure  costs. NHCCI  has shown  a 67                                                               
percent  construction   cost  increase  (nationwide)   since  the                                                               
Infrastructure Investment and  Jobs Act (IIJA) was  put in place.                                                               
He  briefly discussed  the  impact  this has  had  in Alaska.  He                                                               
explained that new estimates  and increasing inflation negatively                                                               
impacts  the  number  of  projects,  as  inflation  has  outpaced                                                               
funding received.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:18:35 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN directed  attention to Slide 9.  He wondered about                                                               
the differences  between the  award amount shown  on Slide  9 and                                                               
the amount shown  on [Slide 6]. He asked for  the amount that has                                                               
currently  been  awarded and  that  contractors  have received  a                                                               
notice  to  proceed  on  for the  2025  construction  season.  He                                                               
pointed out the short timeframe  that remains for additional bids                                                               
and awards for  the 2025 season. He asked what  DOTPF is doing to                                                               
close the delta to reach the new program totals for FFY2025.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:19:58 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KEITH shared  her  understanding that  the  $95 million  (on                                                               
Slide  6) included  both projects  being bid  and those  that had                                                               
been awarded  (and those that  were close to award).  She briefly                                                               
explained  the  data   on  Slide  9.  She   indicated  that  this                                                               
accurately reflects current award  and bid amounts (totaling $189                                                               
million).  She  explained  CMGC  awards.  The  remainder  ($574.9                                                               
million)  is on  TAS  and  are to  be  awarded.  With respect  to                                                               
timing,  she said  that this  is also  a concern  for DOTPF.  She                                                               
stated  that  late  federal grant  award  times  are  concerning,                                                               
particularly for  airport projects.  Permitting is  another cause                                                               
for delays. She indicated that  DOTPF has acceleration strategies                                                               
in progress  for projects on  TAS. DOTPF is working  with project                                                               
managers for solutions to avoid  pushing deadlines. She indicated                                                               
that  the goal  of transparency  has  led to  some hesitancy  for                                                               
moving projects up on TAS.  DOTPF is conservative in its approach                                                               
to moving  TAS projects back  and would prefer projects  to begin                                                               
early.  She explained  that  2024  estimated contractor  payments                                                               
($885 million)  are based  on when DOTPF  expects projects  to go                                                               
out -  regardless of TAS. She  clarified that this is  due to the                                                               
timing of the award.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:23:15 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN reiterated  that contractors  are less  concerned                                                               
about  payments  and more  concerned  about  bid awards  and  new                                                               
projects for  2025. He  asked whether  federal delays  related to                                                               
obligating funds  are impacting  DOTPF's ability to  put projects                                                               
out to award.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:23:47 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KEITH replied  yes. She  noted  that this  is of  particular                                                               
concern with  FAA funding and  DOTPF is working on  strategies to                                                               
remain flexible.  She said acceleration strategies  would benefit                                                               
projects  for this  year  but acknowledged  that  this would  not                                                               
necessarily impact  the pipeline of  future projects (which  is a                                                               
concern of the contracting community).                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:24:55 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL pointed out that  TAS shows that bidding will occur                                                               
in June and said it is  highly unlikely that this work will occur                                                               
in  2025. He  asked for  an estimate  on the  2025 project  award                                                               
value.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEITH replied that the value  for awards going out in 2025 is                                                               
$935  million, which  is  higher  than it  has  been in  previous                                                               
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIEHL clarified his question.  He said he is asking about                                                               
work that can start in 2025.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEITH replied  that new work starting in  2025 (contrasted to                                                               
what was  previously awarded and  underway) is $276  million. She                                                               
clarified that of 2025 awards,  $276 million would be awarded and                                                               
available to begin in 2025.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:26:29 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEDMAN asked Mr. Pannone  for a written statement of his                                                               
earlier comments  on inflation and  the 67 percent  escalation in                                                               
costs.  He indicated  that this  would  be shared  with both  the                                                               
Senate Transportation  Standing Committee and the  Senate Finance                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:27:39 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. PANNONE said he would provide this to the committee.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:27:52 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR SHOWER  noted the short window  for construction projects                                                               
and the  impact of the  federal funding timeline. He  wondered if                                                               
here  is   a  way  for   Alaska's  congressional   delegation  to                                                               
communicate the challenges  that Alaska faces in  order to adjust                                                               
the funding timeline and allow work to occur.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:28:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH stated that STIP  processes recently changed to require                                                               
amendments  in certain  situations related  to contracts  and bid                                                               
amounts,  which can  delay projects  further. She  commented that                                                               
this is one area where Alaska's congressional could help.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:29:28 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. PANNONE  agreed. He briefly  explained the  previous process,                                                               
the  new  process,  and  the  impact  the  changes  have  had  on                                                               
projects.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:30:14 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  PANNONE   advanced  to  Slide   10  and   discussed  advance                                                               
construction (AC). Slide  10 contains a chart  showing trends for                                                               
both   the  Program   Activity  Index   (PAI)  and   the  Advance                                                               
Construction  Dependency Index  (ACDI). PAI  is trending  upward,                                                               
indicating  heavy activity  compared to  obligations, potentially                                                               
reducing   the   pipeline.   ACDI  shows   a   reduced   advanced                                                               
construction  balance  to  stabilize  long-term  funding.  Charts                                                               
showing AC funding amounts for  FFY 2022-24 are also included. He                                                               
explained  that  AC  applies  to  federal  highways  but  not  to                                                               
aviation  and is  a  tool to  advance projects.  When  used in  a                                                               
single year,  it is  repaid in  the same  year (by  using federal                                                               
funding when it  is released). AC can apply to  projects that are                                                               
ready for bid  if the project is in STIP,  thus allowing projects                                                               
to go  out to bid early.  He briefly explained the  impact the AC                                                               
cycle can have on future projects.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:31:23 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEDMAN noted  concern on the growth of AC  over time. He                                                               
asked if  adjusting AC to  lower levels  would have an  impact on                                                               
the 2025 and/or 2026 construction year.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:32:11 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. PANNONE  said DOTPF  has seen  the balance  of authorizations                                                               
increase. He  noted feedback from  the contracting  industry that                                                               
AC  would be  desirable for  projects that  are ready  to go.  He                                                               
explained that  in 2025, the current  goal is to have  a net zero                                                               
gain  in  AC  balance  rather  than reduce  the  AC  balance.  He                                                               
clarified that the  intention is to keep AC funds  or use them to                                                               
accelerate projects.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:33:05 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH  said AC  is a  policy call  and expressed  interest in                                                               
continuing  the  AC  conversation.  She surmised  that  AC  could                                                               
increase  in  2025 and  DOTPF  is  using AC  as  a  tool to  help                                                               
alleviate issues related to STIP requirements.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:34:21 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN asked  about general  risk for  utilizing AC.  He                                                               
wondered why  it is necessary to  pay down the entire  AC balance                                                               
rather than  keeping the  number down to  a certain  amount (e.g.                                                               
$550 million).                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:34:49 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. PANNONE explained  that future funds must be used  to pay the                                                               
AC balance  incurred in  a single year.  He explained  that DOTPF                                                               
determines whether  to pay the  AC balance depending  on incoming                                                               
federal funds and project availability.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:36:05 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. PANNONE advanced to Slide 11:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Project Delivery / Inflation Impacts                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Inflation Effects on Program                                                                                             
        • Overall program of active construction projects                                                                       
          has   been   significantly    impacted   by   cost                                                                    
          increases.                                                                                                            
        • STIP procedures require amendments when a low bid                                                                     
         exceeds 20 percent of the engineer's estimate.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Kotzebue to Cape Blossom Road                                                                                            
        • $27M Congressionally Directed Spending (CDS)                                                                          
        • 2022 Stage 2 Engineer's Estimate: $55M                                                                                
        • 2024   Stage   2    CMGC   Estimate:   $140M   (In                                                                    
          Negotiations)                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        [Slide 11 also includes a graph of the National                                                                         
     Highway Construction Cost Index (NHCCI)]                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. PANNONE noted that costs  have increased 61 percent since the                                                               
beginning of the Covid-19 pandemic  and 67 percent since IIJA was                                                               
put in place. Additional data is forthcoming.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:36:55 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH briefly  discussed the impact inflation has  had on the                                                               
Cape  Blossom  Road  project.  She   stated  that  several  other                                                               
projects around  the state  will potentially  be delayed  as this                                                               
program moves forward.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:37:38 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KEITH  advanced  to  Slide  12,  Project  Delivery/Inflation                                                               
Impacts. Slide  12 includes charts  showing inflation  impacts on                                                               
various  projects, as  well as  proposed projects  that were  not                                                               
awarded. She noted that this primarily impacts rural airports.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:38:14 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEDMAN  commented that  increasing costs  are ubiquitous                                                               
and unavoidable  and expressed appreciation for  the inclusion of                                                               
this  data. He  expressed  concern that  cost  estimates for  the                                                               
potential  liquified natural  gas (LNG)  pipeline project  do not                                                               
include  estimated  cost  increases. He  commented  that  DOTPF's                                                               
estimates are  more realistic. He  noted that a  pipeline project                                                               
would  significantly impact  roadways, requiring  additional work                                                               
after pipeline completion. He asked  if DOTPF has considered this                                                               
and  whether Alaska's  infrastructure could  handle a  project of                                                               
this  magnitude. He  asked what  it would  cost to  upgrade where                                                               
needed - and recondition the infrastructure for the project.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:40:06 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH  agreed. She said  that DOTPF needs to  update previous                                                               
estimates  and  does  not  currently have  a  set  dollar  amount                                                               
estimate.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:40:57 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR   STEDMAN  suggested   that  the   Senate  Transportation                                                               
Standing Committee  hold a  future meeting  to consider  this. He                                                               
said that  the cost  is significant and  reiterated that  this is                                                               
not included in the project estimates seen to date.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:41:33 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN asked  to what  extent inflation  cost escalation                                                               
exceed  the 20  percent  engineer's estimate  threshold and  thus                                                               
delay projects. He  referred to an earlier  discussion related to                                                               
inflation  cost escalations  and  wondered why  there  is not  an                                                               
associated increase in award value.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:42:13 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH explained that fewer  projects are being awarded due to                                                               
increased project cost.  She clarified that the  awarded value is                                                               
not changing; however,  the number of awards - and  what they can                                                               
be used for - is decreasing.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:42:40 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN asked  about  the number  of  projects that  fall                                                               
above and below  the 20 percent threshold. He  wondered why DOTPF                                                               
is not awarding projects that fall below the threshold.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:43:08 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH  said that she  would provide that information  for the                                                               
committee. She said that the  presentation highlights the biggest                                                               
discrepancies. She explained  that DOTPF prefers to  have low bid                                                               
procurement. The  lowest bid is  awarded regardless of  where the                                                               
bid  falls relative  to  the estimate.  The  department can  move                                                               
forward and award bids if certain criteria are met.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:44:13 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN  asked what the  deadline is for the  Cape Blossom                                                               
Road Project.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:44:20 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH  said DOTPF  intends to  have a  contract in  place and                                                               
obligated funding by June.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BJORKMAN asked if this is  a result of CMGC negotiations on                                                               
the Cape Blossom Road Project.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KEITH  replied yes.  She  explained  that the  project  will                                                               
likely  require rescoping.  She briefly  described this  process.                                                               
She  emphasized that  this is  an important  project and  finding                                                               
ways to move forward has presented a challenge.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:45:10 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  noted a 3.5  percent problem rate  with engineer's                                                               
estimates. He  asked if this was  in reference to how  often bids                                                               
come in 20 percent higher than the engineer's estimates.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:45:26 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH  said that  the 3.5 percent  is the  overall difference                                                               
between engineer's estimates and  awards over a four-year period.                                                               
She  said that  roughly  $3 billion  was  awarded and  engineer's                                                               
estimates were $93 million less.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:45:59 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL  asked  for  the trendline  over  the  last  12-18                                                               
months.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEITH said  that the difference between  awards and estimates                                                               
has decreased  since 2021 and  surmised that  this may be  due to                                                               
practices to ensure accuracy.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:46:56 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL commented that this  is a good change. He expressed                                                               
confusion  that the  presentation indicated  that the  20 percent                                                               
difference  between  estimates and  awards  is  a primary  reason                                                               
project  delays -  particularly if  the difference  is small  and                                                               
continues to decrease.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:47:20 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH  said that the problem  is tied to anomalies  that come                                                               
up,  primarily with  rural airport  projects  and inflation.  She                                                               
explained  that  the  engineer's  estimate can  be  adjusted  for                                                               
inflation.  Therefore,   the  estimates  typically   account  for                                                               
inflation;  however, a  project that  was expected  several years                                                               
ago may  have doubled  or tripled  in cost  since that  time. She                                                               
reiterated that the projects of  concern tend to be rural airport                                                               
projects.  She  noted  several  factors  that  can  impact  those                                                               
projects.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:48:32 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN  asked how  many of the  rebid projects  have been                                                               
rebid.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:48:45 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH replied  that a letter was provided in  response to the                                                               
earlier  question  of  rebid  projects.  She  estimated  that  70                                                               
percent  have been  rebid and  awarded. She  explained that  some                                                               
projects are  under evaluation  to determine  how to  proceed and                                                               
offered examples. She noted that  some projects have been put out                                                               
several times and will not be put  back out to bid; in this case,                                                               
DOTPF works to understand how  projects need to change to receive                                                               
competitive bids.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:50:15 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KEITH  advanced to  Slide  13,  Construction Change  Orders.                                                               
Slide 13  includes charts showing  initial awards  and post-award                                                               
increases  for  a  variety  of  projects  and  total  awards  and                                                               
increases  for  FFY2020-25.  The  total of  cost  increases  from                                                               
projects awarded  since FFY2020 is $326.5  million. She explained                                                               
that  this information  helps  DOTPF  evaluate contingencies  and                                                               
avoid   over-programming.  She   offered  examples   and  briefly                                                               
discussed the various  changes that can occur and  the process to                                                               
respond  to  these.  DOTPF is  working  to  anticipate  potential                                                               
change orders and avoid delays.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:52:09 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH  advanced to Slide  14 and discussed  inflation impacts                                                               
on project cost  for the Cooper Landing  Bypass (Sterling Highway                                                               
Milepost 45-60).  Slide 14 contains  tables showing  project cost                                                               
net change  ($ in millions)  and total project cost  estimate and                                                               
cost to complete by phase  ($ in millions). She briefly discussed                                                               
the  history  of  this  project and  the  cost  escalations.  She                                                               
explained  that  this  is related  to  both  preconstruction  and                                                               
construction  costs and  DOTPF must  evaluate the  entire program                                                               
and  consider  how  to  proceed. She  noted  that  inflation  has                                                               
significantly impacted the program and the project.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:53:35 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN  noted that DOTPF  has not  dedicated construction                                                               
funding to the  Cooper Landing Bypass Project  (CLBP) for several                                                               
years. He  surmised that  this was done  to preserve  funding for                                                               
statewide  construction projects.  He pointed  out that  there is                                                               
significantly less  money for new  projects across the  state for                                                               
FFY  2025,  despite  this  effort.  He  asked  how  Alaskans  are                                                               
benefitting from  the project delay. He  emphasized that delaying                                                               
the project is resulting in  significant cost increases (for that                                                               
project).                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:55:31 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH said that the funds in  the STIP are for paying down AC                                                               
(and not  for new construction over  the next 3 years).  She said                                                               
that  this program  has no  associated  revenue and  has been  AC                                                               
only.  Over $200  million AC  has been  applied to  this project,                                                               
making  it  a  large  portion  of the  AC  balance.  She  briefly                                                               
discussed the work  that needs to be done before  the project can                                                               
move forward and said this is an important project for DOTPF.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:57:03 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN  asked how not including  Phase 1 of CLBP  in STIP                                                               
benefits Alaskans.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:58:12 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KEITH  said   DOTPF  is  working  on  a   path  to  obligate                                                               
construction  funds for  Phase  1. She  stated  that the  primary                                                               
concern is how  to move forward with  the bid in a  way that also                                                               
resolves  the concerns  of the  contracting  community. She  said                                                               
that the  Alaskan contracting community  has communicated  a need                                                               
for  work and  the CLBP  is a  priority for  Alaskan contractors.                                                               
DOTPF would like to make a  portion of this project available for                                                               
Alaskan contractors, as the primary  construction company for the                                                               
project  is not  an Alaskan  company. She  said that  many issues                                                               
play into whether  the project would benefit  Alaskans. She added                                                               
that DOTPF balances  statewide needs and noted  that this project                                                               
would not benefit all Alaskans.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:59:14 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN commented  that  all Alaskans  are interested  in                                                               
keeping   costs   down.   He  expressed   confusion   about   the                                                               
relationship  DOTPF has  with certain  construction companies  in                                                               
the state.  He stated that  there is equipment that  will require                                                               
demobilization on the East side of  CLBP due to a lack of revenue                                                               
to proceed. He  has heard conflicting reports on  the progress of                                                               
this project. He shared his  understanding that there are aspects                                                               
of the work that could be  completed to move the project forward;                                                               
however, this  work is not being  done. He noted that  bridge and                                                               
archeological  work is  being done.  He  reiterated that  further                                                               
delays would result  in increasing costs and opined  that this is                                                               
not  in the  best  interest of  Alaskans.  He questioned  current                                                               
contract  award  amounts  and   asked  what  other  projects  are                                                               
competing with the CLBP in STIP.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:01:35 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH emphasized that DOTPF  has no issues with the companies                                                               
doing work  in the  state. She  stated that  DOTPF is  mindful of                                                               
complaints received  regarding lack  of work. She  clarified that                                                               
the  contracting  payments  DOTPF   expects  to  issue  are  $885                                                               
million.  2025   award  amounts  and  contracting   payments  are                                                               
increasing.  With respect  to projects  competing with  CLBP, she                                                               
said  there  are  several, including  the  Safer  Seward  Highway                                                               
Corridor. She briefly discussed the importance of this project.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:02:57 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL commented  that it  is valuable  to have  payments                                                               
going out but expressed concern  about the low number of projects                                                               
that are currently out for bid.  He noted that some projects have                                                               
carried over from previous years  but emphasized that the current                                                               
year is behind the usual curve.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:04:21 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN noted  the time  and suggested  either continuing                                                               
the presentation or  returning to complete the  presentation at a                                                               
future time.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:05:00 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH indicated that she would  leave this to the will of the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:05:12 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:07:44 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN  reconvened  the   meeting  and  noted  that  the                                                               
committee is out of time.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:08:14 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH  expressed gratitude for the  discussion and emphasized                                                               
the common  goal of seeking  solutions that provide  the greatest                                                               
benefit to the state.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:08:50 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. PANNONE noted that there are 8 projects are on TAS.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:09:03 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN  emphasized that  he would like  to help  DOTPF in                                                               
this process. He  expressed a desire to make  more jobs available                                                               
and for  CLBP to be  completed within a reasonable  timeframe. He                                                               
shared his understanding that there  have been struggles with the                                                               
Safer  Seward Highway  Program  while  CLBP is  ready  to go.  He                                                               
reiterated  his question  about why  CLBP  has been  left out  of                                                               
STIP. He  expressed hope that  this project would be  included in                                                               
the next STIP.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:11:10 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair  Bjorkman  adjourned  the  Senate  Transportation  Standing                                                               
Committee meeting at 3:11 p.m.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

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STIP Updates Construction Outlook 20250213 CORRECTED.pdf STRA 2/13/2025 1:30:00 PM
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STIP Update Construction Outlook