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04/11/2024 01:30 PM Senate TRANSPORTATION

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01:32:23 PM Start
01:33:05 PM Presentation(s): Statewide Transportation Improvement Program Approval Update
03:04:35 PM Adjourn
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Improvement Program Approval Update by
the Department of Transportation and Public
Facilities by
Ryan Anderson, Commissioner
Katherine Keith, Deputy Commissioner
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            SENATE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                          
                         April 11, 2024                                                                                         
                           1:32 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator James Kaufman, Chair                                                                                                    
Senator David Wilson, Vice Chair                                                                                                
Senator Löki Tobin                                                                                                              
Senator Jesse Kiehl                                                                                                             
Senator Robert Myers                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BJORKMAN                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S): STATEWIDE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM                                                                   
APPROVAL UPDATE                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
RYAN ANDERSON, Commissioner                                                                                                     
Department of Transportation and Public Facilities (DOTPF)                                                                      
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented the Statewide Transportation                                                                    
Improvement Program (STIP) Approval Update.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
KATHERINE KEITH, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                            
Department of Transportation and Public Facilities (DOTPF)                                                                      
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented a portion of the Statewide                                                                      
Transportation Improvement Program (STIP) Approval Update.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:32:23 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  JAMES KAUFMAN  called the  Senate Transportation  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 1:32  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order were Senators Myers, Wilson, Kiehl, and Chair Kaufman.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Tobin arrived thereafter.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:33:05 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAUFMAN  announced that  the  agenda  would consist  of  a                                                               
presentation   by  Department   of   Transportation  and   Public                                                               
Facilities  (DOTPF) on  the Statewide  Transportation Improvement                                                               
Program (STIP) Approval Update.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:34:00 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR TOBIN arrived.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S):  STATEWIDE  TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT  PROGRAM                                                               
APPROVAL UPDATE                                                                                                                 
 PRESENTATION(S): STATEWIDE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM                                                              
                        APPROVAL UPDATE                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:34:05 PM                                                                                                                    
RYAN  ANDERSON, Commissioner,  Department  of Transportation  and                                                               
Public   Facilities  (DOTPF),   Juneau,  Alaska,   presented  the                                                               
Statewide  Transportation  Improvement  Program  (STIP)  Approval                                                               
Update. He thanked  the committee for the  opportunity to provide                                                               
another update to  the STIP and said the  presentation would also                                                               
allow Department of Transportation  and Public Facilities (DOTPF)                                                               
to  answer questions  about the  status of  project delivery.  He                                                               
noted  the STIP  is  key to  the  state's surface  transportation                                                               
program and  the funds that  are obligated to  construct projects                                                               
on the highways  and the Alaska Marine Highway  System (AMHS). He                                                               
gave  an  overview of  current  funds  obligated and  awarded  in                                                               
Fiscal Year  24 compared  with Fiscal Year  23. He  observed that                                                               
expenditures are about  $30 million less for Fiscal  Year 24 than                                                               
for  Fiscal Year  23.  He said  that, though  the  STIP has  been                                                               
delayed, DOTPF was moving forward and awarding projects.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:36:04 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER  ANDERSON  moved  to  slide 2  and  paraphrased  the                                                               
presentation points.  Slide 2 includes  a timeline  titled: E-STP                                                               
and STIP Development, dated December 2021 through March 2024.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     2024-2027 STIP Review                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     STIP Submission Dates                                                                                                    
     • Jul. 20, 2023: DOT&PF  posts the 2027-2027 Draft STIP                                                                    
     • Nov. 2023: Revised 2024-2027 STIP to FHWA and FTA                                                                        
     • Jan.  11, 2024:  Revised 2024-2027  STIP to  FHWA and                                                                    
     FTA                                                                                                                        
     • Jan.  19, 2024:  Revised 2024-2027  STIP to  FHWA and                                                                    
     FTA                                                                                                                        
     • Mar. 1, 2024: Revised 2024-2027 STIP to FHWA and FTA                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Legislative Briefings                                                                                                    
     • Feb. 13, 2024: House Transportation                                                                                      
     • Feb. 22, 2024: Senate Transportation                                                                                     
     • Feb. 28, 2024: Senate Finance                                                                                            
     • Feb. 28, 2024: House Finance                                                                                             
     • Feb. 29, 2024: House Transportation                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Summary of FHWA Correspondence                                                                                           
     •  Feb. 12,  2024:  DOT&PF  receives planning  findings                                                                    
     from FHWA with a deadline of March 1, 2024.                                                                                
     •  Feb.  16,  2024:   DOT&PF  sends  clarification  and                                                                    
     questions to FHWA regarding Tier 1 Findings.                                                                               
     • Feb. 20, 2024: FHWA responds to DOT&PF questions.                                                                        
     •  Feb.  22,  2024:  DOT&PF  sends  questions  to  FHWA                                                                    
     focused on MPOs, fiscal constraint, Appendix D.                                                                            
     •  Feb. 23,  2024:  FHWA responds  to  the February  22                                                                    
     letter.                                                                                                                    
     • Feb. 27, 2024: DOT&PF  sends a listing of replacement                                                                    
     projects for FHWA eligibility review.                                                                                      
     • Feb. 29,  2024: FHWA responds to  the project listing                                                                    
     request.                                                                                                                   
     • Mar.  27, 2024: FHWA  grants partial approval  of the                                                                    
     STIP.                                                                                                                      
     • Mar. 27, 2024: DOT&PF  follows up with FHWA regarding                                                                    
     toll credits.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:37:35 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  TOBIN  asked  how  the  current  STIP  submission  dates                                                               
compare to  previous submissions.  She further asked  whether the                                                               
same  submission timeline  and  process were  being followed  and                                                               
whether  there  were  delays  or   dynamics  that  differed  from                                                               
previous STIP submissions.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:38:10 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON answered that the STIP was submitted for                                                                  
public notice late due to problems with E-STIP. He said there                                                                   
was  an  enormous  volume  of   response  to  the  public  notice                                                               
requiring  significantly   more  time  and  multiple   levels  of                                                               
communication  to  respond  than  in  past  STIPs.  Beginning  in                                                               
February  2024,  when  the  formal  findings  were  received,  he                                                               
reported that  DOTPF began communicating by  more formal, written                                                               
means  to answer  questions and  convey progress  on the  STIP He                                                               
noted that there was more time  involved in the STIP process than                                                               
previously.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:39:36 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL  asked  whether there  were  shifts  in  personnel                                                               
organization to do the work of preparing the STIP.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:40:11 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER  ANDERSON referred  to  the timeline  and noted  the                                                               
length of the STIP development:  December 2021 through April 2023                                                               
and said  staff were working  on E-STIP,  the new way  to develop                                                               
the  STIP. He  said that  team was  composed of  people from  the                                                               
regions  and project  delivery  people to  work  through all  the                                                               
details. At  that point, it  was determined that  E-STIP wouldn't                                                               
work; the  developers switched to  a new platform to  prepare for                                                               
the  public notice.  A team  was developed  to rebuild  the STIP,                                                               
composed  of   thirty  to  forty   people,  with  a   more  agile                                                               
methodology.  He described  the  method as  small  teams tied  to                                                               
other teams to address different aspects  of the STIP that had to                                                               
come  together. He  said the  Commissioner's  office oversaw  the                                                               
development  from  that  point,  and that  each  team  or  region                                                               
focused on  its part. He  said there is  a list of  everyone that                                                               
was involved.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:42:31 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL asked  how the roles of the  most experienced DOTPF                                                               
staff in the regions and in statewide planning shifted.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:42:59 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON said  if there was a shift in  roles it was                                                               
a shift  in ways of  working. He  said DOTPF values  everyone and                                                               
their expertise  and wanted  to make  the most  of that.  He said                                                               
there  was recognition  of a  large  technological component,  as                                                               
well  as the  planning and  regional expertise  to capture  while                                                               
tackling  challenges  with  fiscal constraint.  He  said  project                                                               
costs  had   risen,  there  was  the   over-programmed  STIP  and                                                               
decisions  were  made at  a  higher  level  in terms  of  project                                                               
delivery  schedule, which  projects would  move forward  and how,                                                               
within the  fiscal constraints. He characterized  the changes for                                                               
personnel  as a  change in  the ways  of working  together rather                                                               
than a change in roles.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:44:16 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR   KIEHL  asked   whether   DOTPF  would   use  the   same                                                               
organization  and methodology  for working  together on  a future                                                               
STIP.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:44:42 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON  said that the construct  of building teams                                                               
and working  together in a  way that the boundaries  of different                                                               
divisions didn't  matter as  much; and in  which people  can work                                                               
across those boundaries  will be the way to go  in the future. He                                                               
said  that  he  would  handle  communications  with  the  Federal                                                               
Highway Administration  differently. He noted that  the effort to                                                               
clearly communicate with  them in February and March  and that it                                                               
would  optimally  have  happened  earlier  in  the  process,  for                                                               
example September  through November,  and the result,  he opined,                                                               
would have improved the process.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:45:41 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  TOBIN  requested  an  amendment  to  the  [STIP]  review                                                               
specifying  how  often  and  when  DOTPF  communicated  with  the                                                               
Municipal Planning  Organizations (MPO's). She  noted significant                                                               
early feedback indicating  they didn't feel included  in the STIP                                                               
creation  and  dialogue.  She noted  similar  concerns  expressed                                                               
regarding tribal  consultation and said  these things need  to be                                                               
addressed before moving forward  with conditional approval of the                                                               
STIP.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:46:33 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAUFMAN  concurred, noting the volume  of concern expressed                                                               
by people about  being left out of the STIP  creation process. He                                                               
said  there appeared  to  be a  significant  deviation from  past                                                               
processes and stakeholder engagement,  both internal and external                                                               
to DOTPF.  He urged that  improvements be made. He  said avoiding                                                               
similar situations  in the  future would be  a high  priority. He                                                               
expressed his  expectation that  this would  be addressed  as the                                                               
presentation continued.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:47:59 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON indicated he was  aware of the concerns. He                                                               
said a  great team  of DOTPF people  spent a lot  of hours  to go                                                               
above and beyond to resolve the  STIP. He emphasized that he does                                                               
take  it  seriously  and  ensured  that  a  later  slide  in  the                                                               
presentation would address proposed solutions.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:48:38 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON moved to slide 3:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     2024-2027 STIP FHWA Tiered Approach                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Federal Planning Findings Overview                                                                                       
     The Federal  Planning Finding is structured  into three                                                                    
     distinct  tiers, each  with its  own set  of conditions                                                                    
     and requirements for resolving Federal actions.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Tier Classification and Conditions                                                                                       
     Tier  1: Contains  conditions that  have been  resolved                                                                  
     for  approval  and  identifies elements  excluded  from                                                                    
     approval.                                                                                                                  
     Tier   2:  Lists   updated  conditions   for  amendment                                                                  
     approval.                                                                                                                  
     Tier  3: Specifies  updated  conditions for  individual                                                                  
     project approvals.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Corrective Actions - Tier 1                                                                                              
     •Tier  1,  Finding  1:  MPO  and  Other  Transportation                                                                    
     Improvement Programs                                                                                                       
     •Tier 1, Finding 2: Project  Groupings •Tier 1, Finding                                                                    
     3: Fiscal Constraint                                                                                                       
     •Tier 1,  Finding 4:  STIP Amendment  and Modifications                                                                    
     Corrective action                                                                                                          
     •Tier  1,  Finding   5:  Self  Certifications,  Federal                                                                    
     Findings, and Federal Approvals                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:50:03 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON moved to slide 4:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     2024-2027 STIP Narrative Changes                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     STIP Revision Process                                                                                                    
     TIER   1:  23   CFR  450.218(P)   STIP  AMENDMENT   AND                                                                  
     MODIFICATIONS                                                                                                            
      Removed Section:  The "Updates  that Do Not  Require a                                                                  
     STIP  Change"  has  been  removed  from  documentation.                                                                    
      Review and  Approval Process: Details on  FHWA and FTA                                                                  
     review and  approval timelines and processes  have been                                                                    
     eliminated from the STIP content                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Maintenance  and   Operations  of   the  Transportation                                                                  
     System                                                                                                                   
     TIER  2: 23  CFR 450.218(Q)  TRANSPORTATION PERFORMANCE                                                                  
     MANAGEMENT  (TPM) AND  23  CFR 450.206(C)  PERFORMANCE-                                                                  
     BASED PLANNING AND PROGRAMMING                                                                                           
      Expanded    STIP    Narrative:    Included    detailed                                                                  
     explanations   to    demonstrate   fiscal   constraint.                                                                    
      Appendix  C  Enhancements: Clarified  how  maintenance                                                                  
     and operational needs are determined.                                                                                      
      Measures and  Targets: Discussed measures  and targets                                                                  
     related   to   maintenance   and   operational   needs.                                                                    
      Historical  Performance:  Illustrated  DOT&PF's  track                                                                  
     record  in meeting  maintenance and  operational needs.                                                                    
      Funding  Process Explanation:  Outlined how  needs are                                                                  
     financially supported.                                                                                                     
      Investment  Balance:  Provided  insight  on  balancing                                                                  
     capital  investments  with ongoing  maintenance  costs.                                                                    
      Project  Sheets Update:  Revised  to feature  relevant                                                                  
     performance factors for individual projects.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:52:52 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON moved to slide 5:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     2024-2027 STIP Narrative Changes                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Funding and Fiscal Constraint                                                                                            
     Tier 1: 23 CFR 450.218(m) Fiscal Constraint                                                                              
      State   Funding:   Updated   Appendix  C   with   more                                                                  
     information on state funding availability.                                                                                 
      Funding  and  Fiscal Constraint  Discussion:  Enhanced                                                                  
     with   further   details   on  the   use   of   Advance                                                                    
     Construction.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     FHWA Discretionary Grants                                                                                                
     Tier 1: 23 CFR 450.218(m) Fiscal Constraint                                                                              
      Detailed Financial Overview:  Includes descriptions of                                                                  
     federal grant programs.                                                                                                    
      FTA Funds:  Features a dedicated  section on  FTA fund                                                                  
     sources within the financial overview.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Public Involvement Process                                                                                               
     Tier  2:  23  CFR 450.210  Interested  Parties,  Public                                                                  
     Involvement, and Consultation                                                                                            
      Enhanced  Public  Involvement  Section:  Now  includes                                                                  
     detailed information  on tribal  consultation processes                                                                    
     within the STIP.                                                                                                           
      Integration   of    Tribal   Programs:    The   Tribal                                                                  
     Transportation    Improvement    Programs    are    now                                                                    
     incorporated by reference in the STIP.                                                                                     
      Federal  Lands  Management  Inclusion:  Federal  Lands                                                                  
     Management  Agency  Transportation Improvement  Program                                                                    
     is also integrated by reference.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:53:00 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BJORKMAN joined the meeting.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:54:02 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON moved to slide 6:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     2024-2027 STIP Appendices Changes                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Appendix   C:  Transportation   Performance  Management                                                                    
     Analysis                                                                                                                   
     Maintenance  and  Operations   Needs  and  Investments.                                                                  
     Additional  Information   included  on   State  funding                                                                    
     sources,   and  overall   maintenance  and   operations                                                                    
     activities.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Appendix D: Air Quality Conformance Analysis                                                                             
     Revisions   address  Jan.   4  Fairbanks   Metropolitan                                                                  
     Planning Area Non-Attainment Area                                                                                        
     • The  Air Quality  Conformity status of  the Fairbanks                                                                    
     North Star Borough and the  impacts to the TIP and STIP                                                                    
     that  result  from  this condition  are  documented  in                                                                    
     Appendix D: Air Quality Conformity Analysis.                                                                               
     • The  projects in Appendix  C, Table C of  the Federal                                                                    
     Planning Finding  have been removed, and  no additional                                                                    
     projects  within  the   Fairbanks  North  Star  Borough                                                                    
     nonattainment/maintenance area  have been added  to the                                                                    
     STIP.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Appendix  E: Fiscal  Constraint  Demonstration By  Fund                                                                  
     Type                                                                                                                     
     Changes to address MPO funding  and removal of programs                                                                  
     and   projects.  Ledgers   are   included  to   reflect                                                                  
     allocations of  funds for projects and  programs not in                                                                    
     the STIP                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:55:21 PM                                                                                                                    
KATHERINE    KEITH,    Deputy   Commissioner,    Department    of                                                               
Transportation and Public Facilities (DOTPF), Anchorage, Alaska,                                                                
moved to slide 7 and said it  was her intent to walk through some                                                               
of the  federal planning  findings that  DOTPF received  from the                                                               
Federal Highway  Administration with the partial  approval of the                                                               
STIP. She expressed delight on  behalf of DOTPF with the progress                                                               
on the  Statewide Transportation Improvement Program  (STIP). She                                                               
said the accomplishments  of the teams to  connect disparate data                                                               
sets, compile them in one  location and provide for public access                                                               
to and  interaction with  the data was  phenomenal. She  said the                                                               
work also highlighted areas for  improvement, for example project                                                               
delivery and planning.  The process of creating  the current STIP                                                               
provided for  new ways to  look at  programming for the  STIP and                                                               
she expressed confidence  that DOTPF had taken  full advantage of                                                               
that opportunity. She said when  DOTPF began working on the STIP,                                                               
the Federal Highways  Administration did not have  a planner with                                                               
whom DOTPF could work. She said  a federal planner was brought in                                                               
from  national headquarters.  The  STIP  process benefitted  from                                                               
fresh  eyes  that  allowed  forward  progress  aligned  with  the                                                               
Federal   Highway   Administration   and  the   Federal   Transit                                                               
Authority.  She  said DOTPF  appreciated  the  opportunity to  be                                                               
fully compliant with all their processes.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
            2024-2027 STIP Volume 1: Project Details                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
        Tier 1, Finding 1: MPO and Other Transportation                                                                       
                      Improvement Programs                                                                                    
       (References Appendix A) 23 CFR 450.218(b) and (k)                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
     Excluded in Partial Approval                                                                                             
         #34374 - Railroad Anchorage North & South Rail                                                                         
     Corridor                                                                                                                   
     #26076 - Aurora Drive-Noyes Slough Bridge Replacement                                                                      
     #34385 - Port of Alaska North Extension Stabilization                                                                      
     Step 1 Project                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     [Slide 7 includes a table listing programs included in                                                                     
     Tier 1, Finding 1 and an image of the 2024-20267 STIP                                                                      
     Table of Contents]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:57:06 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAUFMAN  asked about  the level  of engagement  between the                                                               
Federal Highway  Administration and DOTPF. He  specifically asked                                                               
whether meetings  began early enough  [in the  process], occurred                                                               
often enough and were on task.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:57:44 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH  replied that when DOTPF  was in the throes  of working                                                               
with  many  dynamic   changes  within  the  STIP,   no  level  of                                                               
engagement with the federal office  could be enough. She said the                                                               
Federal Highway  Administration in  Alaska was not  fully staffed                                                               
and it was a  small office, around 12 people, with  a lot of work                                                               
to do.  She said  bringing in extra  resources was  critical. She                                                               
described DOTPF as a staff of  over three thousand and said there                                                               
was a  tremendous amount of  detail to go through.  She expressed                                                               
appreciation for  the level of  engagement between DOTPF  and the                                                               
Federal  Highway  Administration  and  said  more  engagement  is                                                               
needed to  help DOTPF understand  better. She said  having things                                                               
formally in  writing was  helpful. She  reported that  for years,                                                               
DOTPF thought they were doing things  the right way and just kept                                                               
doing it  that way, but  there were other  ways of looking  at it                                                               
and doing  it that DOTPF hadn't  done before and that  they could                                                               
improve.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:58:56 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAUFMAN  asked whether  there  were  changes in  the  work                                                               
process  with  respect  to  the federal  interface  or  with  the                                                               
interpretation of technical requirements.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:59:05 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH responded  that it was both. She offered  as an example                                                               
overprogramming  the   STIP.  She  said   it  had   been  DOTPF's                                                               
historical  practice  to over  program  each  year, so  that,  as                                                               
things  slipped, there  would be  enough projects  programmed and                                                               
budgeted for that  year that it wouldn't be necessary  to go back                                                               
and  make  an  amendment  [to   the  STIP].  She  said  the  STIP                                                               
originally included  programming for over $3.5  billion for 2024.                                                               
There  wasn't that  much  revenue, so  programming  needed to  be                                                               
reduced  to  $1  billion.  She emphasized  the  time  and  effort                                                               
required to cut the programming  from $3.5 billion to $1 billion.                                                               
This  represented significant  new learning  for DOTPF  regarding                                                               
the expectations of the Federal Highway Administration.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:00:16 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAUFMAN  pointed out that  the documents filed  online said                                                               
they  were  pending  approval.  He asked  whether  that  was  the                                                               
reality or a matter of the posting not being up to date.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KEITH affirmed  that approval  was still  pending. She  said                                                               
that  DOTPF  was  working  to repackage  the  PDF  documents  and                                                               
uploading  the new  digital capital  project  modules to  clearly                                                               
communicate to the  public what had been approved  and was moving                                                               
forward  versus  what  was  part of  the  partial  approval.  She                                                               
anticipated posting a formal document online.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:01:00 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAUFMAN requested a timeline for the formal document.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEITH said the document would be complete that week.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KAUFMAN commented that was not much time.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEITH explained there would  be a presentation later that day                                                               
which  would include  [Quick  Response] QR  codes  that were  not                                                               
ready to  share for this meeting.  She said she would  share them                                                               
with the committee right away.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:01:32 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH  continued to paraphrase  slide 7. She pointed  out the                                                               
list   of   projects   for  the   Anchorage   Metropolitan   Area                                                               
Transportation   Solutions   (AMATS),  Fairbanks   Area   Surface                                                               
Transportation  (FAST)  and the  Metropolitan/Municipal  Planning                                                               
Organizations  (MPOs).  She  said  the  details  for  the  listed                                                               
projects were included in the STIP  and had been included in past                                                               
STIPs.  She  said  that  in   order  to  solely  incorporate  the                                                               
Transportation  Improvement Projects  (TIPs)  by reference,  they                                                               
have been fully removed from the  STIP. She said DOTPF is working                                                               
together  with AMATS  and  FAST and  Mat-Su  Valley Planning  for                                                               
Transportation (MVP)  to understand  how to  move forward  in the                                                               
absence of  STIP ID's  which they  used to  use to  program their                                                               
projects, and  which no  longer exist.  This requires  that DOTPF                                                               
redefine  how they  work together  with  the MPO's  and how  they                                                               
program  and  obligate  projects.   As  part  of  their  planning                                                               
findings, she said  there were six items that  were excluded from                                                               
approval:                                                                                                                       
   • two of them were discretionary grant awards and she said                                                                   
     they aren't projects DOTPF would operate anyway                                                                            
   • two of the projects were advanced construction conversions                                                                 
     which means they were obligated in previous years and it's                                                                 
     a financial transaction to pay back that a/c [account                                                                      
     current] balance                                                                                                           
She sought to clarify that the  projects listed on slide 7 are in                                                               
that category and don't affect  DOTPFs program over the next four                                                               
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:02:54 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAUFMAN sought clarification  regarding the Port of Alaska.                                                               
He  asked  whether that  project  was  included as  an  exclusion                                                               
because the work was already underway.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:03:15 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KEITH explained  that  the  Federal Highways  Administration                                                               
instructed DOTPF to exclude [the  Port of Alaska project] because                                                               
it  was already  within  the Anchorage  AMATS planning  boundary.                                                               
[Federal  Highways Administration]  requested that  the Port  [of                                                               
Alaska]  and the  municipality  of Anchorage  work  first to  get                                                               
these  discretionary grants  included in  the TIP  and then  they                                                               
would be incorporated  by reference. She said DOTPF  was eager to                                                               
get  discretionary grant  awards listed  as soon  as possible  to                                                               
avoid  delays in  grant agreements  with  the applicable  federal                                                               
agencies. She explained that there  were two new federal agencies                                                               
for funding  within the state. One  of the projects was  from the                                                               
Maritime  Administration (MARAD)  and  one was  from the  Federal                                                               
Rail  Association (FRA).  She said  DOTPF was  learning what  the                                                               
requirements of  these agencies  were to go  to grant  award. She                                                               
said a  number of  the projects  listed for  information purposes                                                               
were from external funding sources  like that. She explained that                                                               
DOTPF  was  required  by regulation  to  include  all  regionally                                                               
significant projects.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:04:19 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAUFMAN asked whether these  projects would all get bundled                                                               
into the over programming that was discussed earlier.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:04:28 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH said they would not.  She said the fiscal constraint as                                                               
far as Federal Highways Administration  (FHA) and Federal Transit                                                               
Authority (FTA) was concerned only  took into account the formula                                                               
funding or funds  that were used toward projects.  She said DOTPF                                                               
was  asked to  account by  fund  and by  year for  each of  those                                                               
projects, but  discretionary grants, especially those  awarded to                                                               
external agencies  have not been  a part of that  accounting. She                                                               
said that for this  STIP, FHA and FTA did want  DOTPF to show the                                                               
funding source  with discretionary  grants, where they  came from                                                               
and that the  state had the match  for the grants so  there was a                                                               
different   way   of   showing   the   fiscal   constraints   for                                                               
discretionary grants that are not awarded to DOTPF.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:05:20 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAUFMAN recalled that the  Delta was $2.5 billion. He asked                                                               
whether the Delta project was part of the overprogramming.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:05:40 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KEITH  explained that  those  were  not discretionary  grant                                                               
applications.  She  said  programming  a  significant  amount  of                                                               
discretionary grants into the STIP  is relatively new to DOTPF as                                                               
part  of the  Bipartisan Infrastructure  Law. She  explained that                                                               
learning what the federal agencies  requested and programming the                                                               
STIP with those expectations was  new, but that the discretionary                                                               
grant funding had not been programmed  into the E-STIP, so it was                                                               
not part of the overprogramming.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:06:18 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH moved  to slide 8 and said these  examples were part of                                                               
what  had  been resolved  as  part  of DOTPF's  project  planning                                                               
findings. She said  these were things that  had historically been                                                               
included  in the  STIP  but will  no longer  be.  DOTPF had  been                                                               
instructed  by FHA  to  remove the  "programs"  and instead  list                                                               
"projects"  that  had  been specifically  funded.  She  said  the                                                               
partially approved  updated STIP  will show a  significant number                                                               
of new projects which have been awarded.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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        Tier 1: Finding 2: Project Groupings (References                                                                      
                 Appendix B) 23 CFR 450.218(j)                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
     Grouping  Removal: Majority  of program  groupings have                                                                  
     been eliminated from the STIP.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Revenue Reallocation: Funds  from former groupings have                                                                  
     been redistributed to  specific DOT&PF-led projects and                                                                    
     programs.                                                                                                                  
     Appendix B - Project Groupings                                                                                             
     The  following project  groupings must  include project                                                                    
     description, including project  location, type of work,                                                                    
     termini, etc., to be included  in the STIP. If any work                                                                    
     occurs  within  an  MPO  boundary,  it  must  first  be                                                                    
     included in the MPO's TIP  before being included in the                                                                    
     STIP by reference.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     [Slide 8  includes a  table of  programs which  are now                                                                    
     expressed as projects in the STIP, Tier 1, Finding 2.]                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:07:54 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH  moved to slide 9  and pointed out that  several of the                                                               
items in  the table had been  resolved and that some  of them had                                                               
been  moved to  Tier  #3,  which means  that,  as  DOTPF goes  to                                                               
obligate these  projects and move them  forward, details specific                                                               
to the projects  will have to be worked out.  She pointed out the                                                               
ferry  boat  toll  credits  and characterized  this  item  as  an                                                               
innovative finance opportunity. With  FHA approval, DOTPF will be                                                               
able to  apply these  federal funds  as a  match for  the federal                                                               
transit  grant awards.  She said  there were  a number  of Alaska                                                               
Marine Highway System  (AMHS) projects on the list  and they have                                                               
all been approved for leveraging  the toll credits. The STIP will                                                               
show the number of toll credits  that will be applied to the AMHS                                                               
projects as  well as the federal  fund source that is  being used                                                               
as  match funds  for  the grant  award.  She credited  Washington                                                               
State DOT as  the origin of this way of  looking at toll credits.                                                               
She  continued  to  explain  that  in  2025  and  2027,  FHA  has                                                               
instructed DOTPF to  wait until they have  identified projects to                                                               
apply the ferry toll credits to, instead of using placeholders.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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     Teir  1,  Finding   3:  Fiscal  Constraint  (References                                                                  
     Appendix D) 23 CFR 450.218(m)                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
     Tier 3  Project Discussions: Projects like  the Cascade                                                                  
     Point  Ferry Terminal  and  Shishmaref Sanitation  Road                                                                    
     Erosion  Control are  now listed  under Tier  3 due  to                                                                    
     ongoing discussions.                                                                                                       
     Toll  Credits: The  process  for  approving Ferry  Boat                                                                    
     Funds  as Toll  Credits is  carried out  separately and                                                                    
     distinctly.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Approved Projects Leveraging Toll Credits:                                                                               
     •    M/V Tustumena Replacement Vessel                                                                                      
     •    Low No Emission Shuttle Ferry                                                                                         
     •    M/V Matanuska Safety Improvement Project                                                                              
     •    M/V Tazlina Crew Quarters                                                                                             
     •    Yakutat Ferry Terminal Reconstruction                                                                                 
     •    Pelican Ferry Terminal Reconstruction                                                                                 
     •    M/V Kennicott Emissions and Exhaust                                                                                   
     •    M/V Columbia Controllable Pitch Propeller                                                                             
     •    Auke  Bay   Ferry  Terminal  East   Berth  Mooring                                                                    
          Rehabilitation                                                                                                        
     •    M/V Mainliner Replacement Vessel                                                                                      
     •    Kake Ferry Terminal Rehabilitation                                                                                    
     •    Angoon AMHS Ferry Terminal Rehabilitation                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Excluded Projects Leveraging Toll Credits:                                                                               
     •    STIP ID 34205 "Ferry Boat Funds as Toll Credits"                                                                      
          will   be    replaced   with    project   specific                                                                    
          information once identified.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
     Appendix D - Ineligible Projects                                                                                           
     The  following projects  appear  to  be ineligible  for                                                                    
     inclusion into the STIP for  the reasons shown for each                                                                    
     specific project.  These projects must be  removed from                                                                    
     the STIP.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
      [Slide 9 includes Table D-1: Resolution status from                                                                       
     January 2024 STIP Submittal]                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:09:54 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH moved  to slide 10 and said there  was one program that                                                               
DOTPF was  working on with  FHA and would  like to get  back into                                                               
the  STIP as  soon  as possible.  She said  a  bridge and  tunnel                                                               
inventory  will  provide a  fund  for  inventory of  bridges  and                                                               
tunnels,   inspections   and   also   for   rehabilitations   and                                                               
replacements,  especially when  sudden situations  or emergencies                                                               
arise. She  said there were  several fund sources for  the bridge                                                               
and tunnel  program, including  National Highway  system funding,                                                               
surface   transportation   block   grant  funding,   and   bridge                                                               
improvement  performance  funding.  She said  those  funds  would                                                               
typically be used to replace  bridges and that they would usually                                                               
break  this   program  out  into   projects  and   apply  funding                                                               
appropriate  to each  project. She  said FHA  did allow  for this                                                               
item to  be excluded from  the STIP  until details can  be worked                                                               
out.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
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                 Appendix D) 23 CFR 450.218(m)                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
     Outstanding Items                                                                                                        
        • Bridge and Tunnel Inventory Work                                                                                      
        • Bridge Scour Monitoring and Retrofit                                                                                  
        • State Owned Shipyard Repairs                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     [Slide 10 includes a Table lising Items from Tier 1,                                                                       
     Finding 3 of the STIP review.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
2:11:06 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAUFMAN asked  whether  part of  the  challenge with  this                                                               
planning  cycle was  that  the federal  agencies  were trying  to                                                               
designate funds  for specific projects  and prevent  the movement                                                               
of money between projects.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:11:30 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KEITH concurred  and said  that DOTPF  has preferred  to use                                                               
programs because  of flexibility.  She said  the ability  to move                                                               
money around  within a program  allowed planners to be  agile and                                                               
meet needs  without necessitating  amendments from year  to year.                                                               
However, she  said it is  clear to DOTPF  that FHA and  FTA would                                                               
prefer the  planning be  as specific  [to projects]  as possible.                                                               
The  federal agencies  made it  clear  they were  not opposed  to                                                               
programs  and they  encouraged DOTPF  to leverage  programs where                                                               
appropriate. She said  examples of programs that  remained in the                                                               
STIP were the  Highway Safety Improvement Program  and the Bridge                                                               
Preservation Program.  She said it  was very important  for DOTPF                                                               
to be  clear in  the scope,  location, and  the project  types in                                                               
order to clearly satisfy the regulations.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:12:28 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAUFMAN shared his impression  that DOTPF is under pressure                                                               
by  the federal  agencies to  provide a  high degree  of specific                                                               
detail for individual projects and phases of projects.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:12:52 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH  concurred and said  that with the change  in amendment                                                               
revision procedures,  DOTPF will have  to be extra  cautious with                                                               
cost estimates. She said the  final version of the STIP submitted                                                               
to   FHA   included   cost   estimates   for   construction   and                                                               
preconstruction,  inflation for  year of  expenditure, and  up to                                                               
date estimates on  file and available for  verification. She said                                                               
DOTPF is aware that they will  have to be vigilant and careful to                                                               
provide  up to  date estimates  for every  amendment in  order to                                                               
complete the work they committed to do.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:13:35 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAUFMAN asked whether there was  a hard limit on the amount                                                               
of  funding available.  He wondered  whether there  would be  any                                                               
flexibility for expenditure.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:13:51 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KEITH affirmed  that there  is a  hard limit.  She said  the                                                               
limit depends  on the dollar  amount of  a project. She  said the                                                               
cost  could go  up  to 20  percent  over total  cost  of a  whole                                                               
project,  but that  if the  cost exceeds  20 percent,  DOTPF must                                                               
process an amendment.  She said there were  several thresholds to                                                               
be met.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:14:28 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAUFMAN asked how all  of this would affect engagement with                                                               
stakeholders. He  wondered if the  decreased ability to  flex and                                                               
move money around among projects  would change the interface with                                                               
stakeholders.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:14:55 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KEITH said  it had  been a  strong priority  of DOTPF  to be                                                               
transparent about projects and their  progress. She commended the                                                               
Data  Modernization  and Innovation  office  for  the tools  they                                                               
created, and  she highlighted the  2024 GIS platform,  named APEX                                                               
which,  she said,  detailed where  current construction  projects                                                               
were taking  place. She said  there were several  comment portals                                                               
and improvements  to engagement  with the  public and  that there                                                               
would  be  more  emphasis  on continual  public  commentary  over                                                               
public comment  periods. She anticipated  using tools  like those                                                               
used by  the MPOs to  allow more overlap in  project information.                                                               
She looked  forward to  taking a  proactive approach  to changes.                                                               
She mentioned  the possibility  of moving  toward a  rolling STIP                                                               
which  would  allow   for  updates  every  year   and  plenty  of                                                               
opportunities for  the public to  offer input on the  progress of                                                               
projects and any changes that have happened.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:16:15 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR TOBIN  recalled a recent in-person  opportunity to gather                                                               
and   share  perspectives   and   information   about  a   common                                                               
interest/concern. She  said it was well-attended  and allowed for                                                               
real people to  offer perspectives, ask questions  and really dig                                                               
in.  She encouraged  DOTPF not  to  rely too  heavily on  on-line                                                               
participation and comments from  the public. She acknowledged the                                                               
significant shift  in the  process for  developing the  STIP. She                                                               
asked whether  other states were  also facing  similar challenges                                                               
and changes regarding the development of their STIPs.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:17:38 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KEITH  said  there  were  upcoming  conferences  with  other                                                               
states'  DOTs to  get together  and learn  from one  another. She                                                               
said she  was looking forward  to the opportunity to  define some                                                               
best  practices and  understand the  experience of  other states.                                                               
She  said  DOTPF  did review  the  other  states'  documentation,                                                               
practices  and methods  of public  engagement. She  asserted that                                                               
the detail of the work is  much greater than before. She said she                                                               
did not see that volume of work at the other states.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:18:36 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR TOBIN asked how many other states' STIPs were rejected.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:18:40 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH  said she couldn't  answer the question and  that DOTPF                                                               
had not found an example.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:18:51 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR TOBIN  restated the response for  clarification by saying                                                               
we know of no other states who had their STIP rejected.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:18:53 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH agreed. She moved to  slide 11 and explained one of the                                                               
deep-dive  STIP  pages.  She  emphasized   the  depth  of  detail                                                               
available  for the  public on  each of  these project  pages, the                                                               
details  of  planning  and  expenditure for  all  phases  of  the                                                               
project are  included and that  this information is  available to                                                               
the public  for all STIP  projects. She said descriptions  of the                                                               
original  plus  current  conditions  are  available  as  well  as                                                               
descriptions of what is expected  once a project is complete. She                                                               
said  this   information  is  directly  tied   to  the  four-year                                                               
infrastructure plan  and to  the transportation  asset management                                                               
system, allowing DOTPF  to quantify the benefit  of the projects,                                                               
demonstrate  maintenance  and  operations expenditures  and  show                                                               
where the  system should be  because of the  federal investments.                                                               
She  said there  could be  confusion  for the  public looking  at                                                               
these  pages because  DOTPF was  instructed to  separate projects                                                               
that were previously grouped together  as corridor projects or as                                                               
projects  that had  several construction  phases  and costs  over                                                               
several years.  She said the  scope and complexity of  a project,                                                               
the volume of  information and the phases and  stages of progress                                                               
included in these pages result in a lot of information.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
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                 Appendix D) 23 CFR 450.218(m)                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Modified Deep-Dives now include:                                                                                           
     • Advance Construction Conversion (ACC): Conversion                                                                        
        details added for obligation                                                                                            
     • Project Estimates: Adjusted for the year of                                                                              
        expenditure                                                                                                             
     • Asset Management Metrics: Included when available                                                                        
         Previous Obligations: Documented and reviewed                                                                          
     • Project Score: Applied if applicable                                                                                     
     • STIP ID Connections: Details on parent/child                                                                             
        relationships                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Slide 11 contains multiple tables to express an                                                                            
     example of a "Deep-Dive" project plan in detail. The                                                                       
     project chosen for this example is: Knik Goose Bay                                                                         
     Road Reconstruction: Fairview Loop to Settler's Bay                                                                        
     (Parent and Final Construction)                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:21:34 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER  ANDERSON  moved to  slide  12.  He said  DOTPF  was                                                               
instructed  to  remove  all  the   projects  from  the  Statewide                                                               
Transportation  Improvement  Program  (STIP)  that  were  already                                                               
included  in the  Fairbanks  Area  Surface Transportation  (FAST)                                                               
Transportation Improvement  Program (TIP).  DOTPF was to  rely on                                                               
the FAST Municipal/Metropolitan  Planning Organization (MPO)s TIP                                                               
for  the   identification  and  the  obligation   of  the  listed                                                               
projects.   He  reported   that  this   led  to   discussion  and                                                               
controversy in  Fairbanks as  many of the  projects that  were in                                                               
the STIP were not  in the TIP, because in the  past, that was not                                                               
the  way  they  had  done   things.  He  explained  that  because                                                               
Fairbanks  was experiencing  an Air  Quality conformance  freeze,                                                               
FAST didn't have the opportunity  to add projects back into their                                                               
TIP.  He  said  the  result  was that  a  significant  number  of                                                               
previously funded projects  were no longer included  in a funding                                                               
plan. He mentioned  several projects that had to  be removed from                                                               
the STIP  and said DOTPF  and other stakeholders were  working on                                                               
the projects one  at a time to  get them back into  the MPO's TIP                                                               
or the STIP.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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        Tier 1, Finding 5: Air Quality Conformity, Self-                                                                        
     certification, Federal Findings and Federal Approvals.                                                                     
                23 CFR 450.220/23 CFR 450(a)(7)                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
   • Project Adjustments: Projects within the Particulate                                                                       
     Matter (PM) 2.5 Non-Attainment Area have been removed.                                                                     
   • Interagency Consultations: Consultations completed for                                                                     
    Richardson   Highway   Milepost   346   Chena   Bridges                                                                     
     Replacement.                                                                                                               
   • Amendment Process: The Chena Bridges Replacement will                                                                      
     be addressed in an upcoming amendment.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Appendix   C    -   Projects    Requiring   Interagency                                                                    
     Consultation                                                                                                               
     Due to  the Conformity  Freeze for the  Fairbanks North                                                                    
     Star  Air Quality  Non-attainment  area, the  following                                                                    
     projects must first be reviewed  by the Fairbanks North                                                                    
     Star   Interagency   Consultation  process   prior   to                                                                    
     inclusion  in the  TIP  or STIP  listed  in the  Table.                                                                    
     These must be removed from the STIP.                                                                                       
     [Table C lists items addressed  by Tier 1, Finding 5 of                                                                    
     the STIP review.]                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:24:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR TOBIN said  she had heard it was not  typical practice to                                                               
require projects to be included in  a TIP prior to including them                                                               
in  the STIP.  She  asked  when that  guidance  from the  federal                                                               
agencies changed.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:24:30 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER  ANDERSON said  DOTPF  initially  understood that  a                                                               
project had to be in an MPOs  TIP prior to inclusion in the STIP.                                                               
The  first STIP  submittal  that was  rejected included  projects                                                               
that were also included in TIPs;  and it did not include projects                                                               
that were not also  in a TIP. That was when  it was understood by                                                               
DOTPF that none of the projects  included in the STIP should also                                                               
be in  a TIP. He  acknowledged the misunderstanding  created some                                                               
tough situations.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:25:39 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MYERS asked  about the exclusion of  charging stations at                                                               
the  international airports.  He  said it  seemed backwards  that                                                               
concerns about air  quality would lead to  barriers to conversion                                                               
to electric vehicles.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:26:01 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON said the  Federal Highway Administration is                                                               
focused on process  and that process drives  decisions. He opined                                                               
that  the   decision  wasn't   targeted  [against   the  charging                                                               
stations],  but   that  the  emphasis   on  process  led   to  an                                                               
indiscriminate decision.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:26:25 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR   KIEHL   expressed   confusion.  He   said   his   prior                                                               
understanding  had  been  that  the STIP  and  whatever  the  MPO                                                               
produced must match. But what he  heard today is that DOTPF can't                                                               
include anything in the STIP that is  in the MPOs TIP. He said he                                                               
must have missed something.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:26:46 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON said DOTPF would  be moving forward in such                                                               
a way  that the  STIP will identify  MPO national  highway system                                                               
projects,  for  example. DOTPF  will  call  these "ledgers,"  not                                                               
"projects". The  ledger will  only include  a [dollar]  amount to                                                               
ensure that the  STIP is fiscally constrained within  the MPO. He                                                               
said  the ledger  will  be  the only  information  [related to  a                                                               
project] included  in the STIP. Detailed  information about those                                                               
projects will  have to  be obtained through  the MPO.  When DOTPF                                                               
moves to  obligate a project, they  will refer to the  MPO's TIP,                                                               
not the STIP.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:27:41 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  asked, then, if  the new process could  be likened                                                               
to adopting a municipal document by reference.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON concurred.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KIEHL continued  to  ask, for  the  projects within  the                                                               
Fairbanks area  that didn't match  [between the MPOs TIP  and the                                                               
STIP], whether  the problem  was that they  didn't match  or with                                                               
how they were listed.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:28:07 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER  ANDERSON said  the  problem was  that  what was  in                                                               
DOTPF's STIP didn't match what was  in the MPOs TIP. He said lags                                                               
in  reporting  between  DOTPF  and the  MPO  contributed  to  the                                                               
problem   and   that   the  [air   quality]   conformity   freeze                                                               
unfortunately locked everything in.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:28:45 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR TOBIN referred to the  Safer Seward Highway project which                                                               
was included in the  STIP; and was not part of  the TIP. She said                                                               
there was  a good deal  of confusion and consternation  about it.                                                               
She understood  that the solution was  for the STIP to  carve out                                                               
this  section. She  expressed confusion  and  asked whether  this                                                               
action  resulted from  a  change  in regulation  or  a change  in                                                               
guidance  and   when  DOTPF  learned   that  the  STIP   must  be                                                               
constructed this way.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:29:27 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER  ANDERSON  said the  Seward  Highway  Project was  a                                                               
great  example [of  the misunderstanding  between  DOTPF and  the                                                               
federal  agencies]. He  said that  project was  in the  Anchorage                                                               
Metropolitan  Area Transportation  System (AMATS)  Transportation                                                               
Improvement  Program (TIP).  The  first STIP  submitted by  DOTPF                                                               
also  included the  Seward Highway  Project. When  DOTPF received                                                               
the planning  findings, they discovered  that if the  project was                                                               
included in  the MPOs TIP, it  could not also be  in DOTPFs STIP.                                                               
That first formal  STIP submittal to result  in planning findings                                                               
was what first made the misunderstanding clear to DOTPF.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:30:25 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL asked  whether the decision for DOTPF  to develop a                                                               
rolling STIP  would necessitate  that the  three local  MPOs also                                                               
develop rolling TIPs  to avoid mismatches or  timing problems. He                                                               
asked  whether the  MPOs were  prepared  to do  that and  whether                                                               
DOTPF had worked with the MPOs to make that shift.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:30:59 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH  said DOTPF was working  with the MPOs on  a process to                                                               
simplify  some of  the back-and-forth  work. She  said DOTPF  was                                                               
using  a cloud-based  system for  project data  that was  easy to                                                               
share with  the MPO partners.  She emphasized that they  were all                                                               
still learning what  it would take for the MPOs  to achieve their                                                               
first [successful] amendment. She  said the Anchorage MPO, AMATS,                                                               
was  ready to  submit its  second  amendment on  its current  TIP                                                               
document, but  that AMATS was  not certain whether  the amendment                                                               
would  be accepted  by the  Federal Highway  Administration (FHA)                                                               
because of the current federal plan  findings. She said that is a                                                               
good example  of trying to  understand where the  overlap between                                                               
the  Statewide Transportation  Improvement  Plan  (STIP) and  the                                                               
Municipal    Planning    Organizations   (MPOs)    Transportation                                                               
Improvement Plans  (TIPs) lies. She  said the MPOs TIPS  may also                                                               
have  to be  "rolling" but  it  may be  possible for  them to  be                                                               
asynchronous with  the STIP. She  explained that, in  theory, the                                                               
STIP would show  the revenue that would go into  the MPO area and                                                               
then the  MPO TIPs  could be  on their  own schedule.  They could                                                               
also  operate   their  own  public  involvement   as  needed  and                                                               
preferred. She  said if there  were any changes in  revenue, they                                                               
would immediately follow it up  with an amendment, but otherwise,                                                               
she said they would maintain  the projects that were in progress.                                                               
She  said the  TIPs  are still  works in  progress  as all  three                                                               
metropolitan  planning organizations  are shifting  to adjust  to                                                               
the updated STIP.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:32:49 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAUFMAN   sought  clarification  for  the   references  to                                                               
"changes in revenue". He asked  whether that meant appropriation.                                                               
or cost.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:33:03 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KEITH explained  that there  was a  change between  December                                                               
2023 and  March 2024.  There was an  update in  revenue forecasts                                                               
resulting  from the  move from  2010 census  data to  2020 census                                                               
data; at the  end of December, the  Matanuska Valley Metropolitan                                                               
Planning  Organization (MVP)  came into  existence. She  said the                                                               
population  shift  resulted  in  the dollar  amount  for  MVP  to                                                               
program their  available appropriation  and AMATS was  working to                                                               
make  their  TIP  amendments  in  order  to  obligate  the  funds                                                               
available to them.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:34:00 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAUFMAN sought  to  summarize.  He said  the  old way  [of                                                               
planning]  was that  DOTPFs STIP  would be  the home  of all  the                                                               
plans [for transportation  projects in Alaska]; the  new way will                                                               
be  that  the  STIP  will reference  the  planning  elements  and                                                               
details which  will be found in  each MPOs TIP. He  described the                                                               
past process as  working with the MPOs and  other stakeholders to                                                               
develop an  overall plan  and that the  new process  will require                                                               
greater   engagement   between   DOTPF,  the   MPOs   and   other                                                               
stakeholders to  stay abreast of  planning and programs.  He said                                                               
it sounds like the way forward  has been determined to be hosting                                                               
shared  information  online  and   to  establish  new  engagement                                                               
processes.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:35:25 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KEITH affirmed  the  general description  of  the change  in                                                               
planning  processes and  coordination.  She said  there would  be                                                               
flowcharts, processes and efforts  toward clarity and cooperation                                                               
to ensure  that each organization  involved is  coordinating with                                                               
the others.  She said  it would require  a significant  amount of                                                               
communication and tools  to be sure stakeholders are  not doing a                                                               
disservice to the public by delaying projects.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:36:02 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAUFMAN said  the legislature was currently  working on the                                                               
budget. He  asked whether  DOTPF was  adequately funded  for this                                                               
change  implementation. He  expressed concern  over the  delay in                                                               
developing the STIP and asked  whether there was a change program                                                               
in  place to  manage all  the different  interfaces and  the work                                                               
that will need to be done to implement a new work process.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:36:38 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH said  DOTPF was funded already through  the Annual Work                                                               
Program.  She  said  the  state  and  the  Metropolitan  Planning                                                               
Organizations (MPOs)  received a  significant amount  of planning                                                               
dollars  [from the  Federal  Highways  Administration]. She  said                                                               
that funding  used to be included  in the STIP as  a project, but                                                               
that  it  will  no  longer  be  included  in  the  STIP,  because                                                               
technically it  did not have  to be listed there.  She reiterated                                                               
that DOTPF  does have  the funding to  make the  planning changes                                                               
and will be  ensuring that staff have the resources  they need to                                                               
make changes.  She said  the annual work  program funding  is for                                                               
STIP  development  and  for  other   support  functions  such  as                                                               
research  funding and  training funds.  She expressed  confidence                                                               
that DOTPF has  the funds they need to make  the planning changes                                                               
and that  they would endeavor to  be smart and modern  and to use                                                               
tools that ensure efficiency.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:38:04 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON  moved to slide  13 and explained  that the                                                               
Community   Transportation   Program   and   the   Transportation                                                               
Alternatives  Program were  removed from  the STIP  after it  was                                                               
originally  rejected.  When  the   STIP  was  resubmitted,  those                                                               
programs  were  replaced  with  individual  projects  which  were                                                               
informed  by community  participation and  a scoring  and ranking                                                               
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Project Allocations to Replace Programs                                                                                  
            Community Transportation Program (CTP) &                                                                            
           Transportation Alternatives Program (TAP)                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
         [Slide 13 includes a table showing the Project                                                                         
         Allocations used to replace programs and their                                                                         
     scores.]                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:39:04 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAUFMAN  asked whether  these projects  did exist  and were                                                               
detailed but weren't expressed as such.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:39:13 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER  ANDERSON  said they  were  projects  that had  gone                                                               
through a  nomination process, a  solicitation and  they included                                                               
details and  were awarded, but  they hadn't been included  in the                                                               
STIP yet.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:39:26 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAUFMAN  pointed out that the  optics are that there  was a                                                               
bucket [of funding]  here and an effort to figure  out what to do                                                               
with that.  He asked for confirmation  that it was not  that, but                                                               
that  there  were  delineated and  detailed  projects  that  were                                                               
deliverable but had not been expressed as such.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:39:49 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER  ANDERSON agreed  and said  DOTPFs website  provided                                                               
details  about  the  process   of  the  Community  Transportation                                                               
Projects and the Transportation Alternative Projects.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:39:51 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH  said that  one of  the updates to  the format  for the                                                               
Community   Transportation   Projects  and   the   Transportation                                                               
Alternative  Projects  was  the  inclusion  of  the  process  for                                                               
scoring the  projects on the  website. She emphasized  the effort                                                               
to improve  transparency and  to communicate  the decision-making                                                               
process with the public.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:40:29 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON moved to slide  14 and addressed the tables                                                               
on the slide.  He said these are the "programs"  which were being                                                               
worked on  and were removed from  the STIP and are  now expressed                                                               
in the STIP as "projects".                                                                                                      
   • In the first table, he said a lot of these are projects                                                                    
     DOTPF  had   been  developing,  for  example   the  National                                                               
     Electric Vehicle  Infrastructure has been  under development                                                               
     in collaboration with Alaska Energy  Authority (AEA) with an                                                               
     overall   strategy  of   working   toward  one   sustainable                                                               
     transportation system.                                                                                                     
   • The second table represents a new program, Frontier Roads,                                                                 
     Trails   and  Bridges   which   includes   ice  roads,   the                                                               
     development  of  new  frontier   road  standards  for  rural                                                               
     Alaska, with an emphasis on cost-effectiveness.                                                                            
   • He described the Protect program projects in the third                                                                     
     table  falling under  a specific  funding source  in Federal                                                               
     Highways. He noted  the announcement today of  a $40 million                                                               
     award  to five  Alaska  communities in  response to  Typhoon                                                               
     Merbok.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
      Sustainable Transportation Program; Frontier Roads,                                                                     
     Trails and Bridges; PROTECT                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
        [Slide 14 consists of Tables listing the Project                                                                        
     Allocations replacing former Programs.]                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:42:05 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH moved to slide 15.  She said this slide illustrates the                                                               
ledger approach and  explained it as a way for  DOTPF to show the                                                               
funding that  was going  toward the MPO  planning as  required by                                                               
the TIP. She  said the final version which will  be available on-                                                               
line  will include  a  new  format for  the  MPO  TIPs. She  said                                                               
instead of  one page, there  will be approximately ten  pages for                                                               
each project  which breaks out  by fund source the  revenue which                                                               
will be going  into the project, the  funding originally expected                                                               
by the  MPO and  the expenditures. She  said the  Federal Highway                                                               
Authority and the Federal Transit  Administration called for this                                                               
information to  be included  in the STIP.  She reported  that the                                                               
MPOs  and  DOTPF are  looking  forward  to having  the  published                                                               
revenue forecasts as a resource for future planning.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
         2024-2027 STIP Volume 2: TIPs Incorporated by                                                                        
     Reference                                                                                                                
        Tier 1, Finding 1: MPO and Other Transportation                                                                         
       Improvement Programs (References Appendix A 23 CFR                                                                       
                       450.218(b) and (k)                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
      [Slide 15 contains tables, definitions and narrative                                                                      
     to support DOTPF's ledger method for communicating and                                                                     
     tracking funding with MPOs.]                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:43:53 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAUFMAN  stated that the key  hope of the committee  was to                                                               
learn what  will be  different, what was  learned; and  how DOTPF                                                               
will  move  forward  with  STIP development  in  the  future.  He                                                               
directed that the  remainder of the presentation  should focus on                                                               
steps to reduce the level  of concern regarding fears of unfunded                                                               
projects and  an impression of malaise  and chaos on the  part of                                                               
DOTPF toward the STIP.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:45:00 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR TOBIN asked whether DOTPF  intended to resume the E-STIP.                                                               
She recommended moving to slide 17.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:45:30 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KEITH moved  to slide  17  and said  there are  a number  of                                                               
slides that address the lessons  learned and what practices DOTPF                                                               
was  adopting as  a normal  course of  action. She  answered that                                                               
DOTPF  would  be using  a  digital  version  of the  STIP  moving                                                               
forward.  She said  integrating the  large volume  of information                                                               
from multiple stakeholder  sources in a spreadsheet  would not be                                                               
possible.  She  said  DOTPF looks  forward  to  using  integrated                                                               
digital tools  for planning  and expects  to implement  a rolling                                                               
STIP to  avoid the issues  experienced this year as  the deadline                                                               
approached. She  said this will  allow DOTPF to adapt  to changes                                                               
from the federal government or  the legislature or other entities                                                               
with amendments along the way.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Be Modern and Agile                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Rolling  STIP Model.  Regularly  update STIP,  maintain                                                                  
     clarity  in funding,  and  ensure public  participation                                                                    
     for transparency as required by 23 CFR 450.218(p).                                                                         
     •  Implement  a  rolling  STIP   model  for  continuous                                                                    
        engagement and real-time updates, clarity in                                                                            
        funding, and ensure public participation for                                                                            
        transparency.                                                                                                           
     •  Use predictive analytics to foresee  and prepare for                                                                    
        potential modifications.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Enhance with Digital Innovation                                                                                          
     • Advance the STIP with interactive digital platforms.                                                                     
     • Integrate GIS for comprehensive spatial analysis.                                                                        
     •  Create public  portals to  capture community  voices                                                                    
        and ensure their influence on planning.                                                                                 
     •  Utilize advanced  reporting  for robust  performance                                                                    
        metrics referencing 23 CFR 450.218(q) & 23 CFR                                                                          
        450.206(c).                                                                                                             
     •  Use user-friendly  design  with full  accessibility,                                                                    
        promoting inclusive participation and adherence to                                                                      
        legal standards.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:47:27 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON noted  that many other states  had moved to                                                               
rolling STIPs some  time ago and so their STIPs  were not subject                                                               
to rejection.  He said he  expected the rolling STIP  approach to                                                               
prevent the  concern and confusion of  stakeholders and residents                                                               
experienced during the recent STIP submission.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:48:09 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAUFMAN  noted that  DOTPF  was  still working  through  a                                                               
backlog of  actions, adapting to  changes and moving  forward. He                                                               
asked whether  DOTPF has  the resources  in place  to be  able to                                                               
move  forward  with keeping  the  department  running, drive  the                                                               
improvements, and catch up on the backlog of work.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:48:57 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON acknowledged that  DOTPF is adapting to new                                                               
ways of  working, assisted  by technology  and building  teams in                                                               
new ways. He  said, for example, that there would  be an MPO team                                                               
versus  the past  approach  with  individual coordinators  within                                                               
each MPO,  following different procedures.  The intent is  to set                                                               
them up  to work together  and one of the  next steps will  be to                                                               
codify new  policies and procedures.  He said there  are planning                                                               
contractors available  to assist if DOTPF  faces situations where                                                               
they need that support. He agreed that  there is a lot of work to                                                               
do and that the hope is not  to interrupt the flow of projects at                                                               
this time.  He mentioned that  there are systems  being developed                                                               
and built to efficiently address  trouble when it arises. He said                                                               
the next six months will be a big push.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:51:17 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAUFMAN  asked for clarification  whether the  system under                                                               
development was a technical query system.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:51:20 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON affirmed that it was.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:51:25 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WILSON referred to the  effort by DOTPF to adopt enhanced                                                               
digital  innovation  during  STIP   development.  He  said  DOTPF                                                               
reported to the  Senate Finance Committee that  making the switch                                                               
away from spreadsheets  and toward the new platform  had met with                                                               
resistance.  He asked  what measures  were being  taken to  avoid                                                               
repeating the cycle of resistance.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:52:07 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH explained  that the original platform,  the E-STIP, had                                                               
bugs; DOTPF  couldn't make changes  themselves and had to  pay an                                                               
outside/external contractor to make the  fix. This led to a cycle                                                               
of identifying  problems, contracting to have  them fixed, paying                                                               
for the  fix and then accumulating  a new list of  things to fix.                                                               
DOTPF then  switched to a  format that allowed the  department to                                                               
fix   and  adjust   themselves.  She   said  this   has  been   a                                                               
revolutionary  change,  though  still  not perfect  as  the  data                                                               
entered into the system is only  as good as the data available at                                                               
a given time. She said, now  that the STIP approval has occurred,                                                               
the  department  is  undergoing   an  evaluation  of  information                                                               
entering  and potential  problems, especially  with collaborative                                                               
efforts.   She  said   the   system  they   are   using  now   is                                                               
interchangeable  and   that  staff  who   prefer  to   work  with                                                               
spreadsheets  can still  do so.  She  said it  is important  that                                                               
staff  with all  technological abilities  and comfort  levels can                                                               
work  within  their needs  and  that  data  can be  imported  and                                                               
exported using  the documents with  which staff  are comfortable.                                                               
She  said  the  data  modernization  and  innovation  office  was                                                               
working toward that synergy.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:54:14 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAUFMAN asked  whether all these changes  are being tracked                                                               
and  documented.  He  asked  whether  there is  a  roadmap  or  a                                                               
strategic plan  for getting from  the current operating  state to                                                               
the desired operating state.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:54:35 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH  replied that  DOTPF is  capturing and  documenting the                                                               
lessons  learned as  shared in  the presentation.  She emphasized                                                               
that the  department and the  MPOs are working toward  their next                                                               
amendment which  must be  prepared within  five months.  She said                                                               
that  target is  their  focus. She  said that  it  would be  very                                                               
valuable  to  document  the  changes   the  department  has  been                                                               
through.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:55:35 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAUFMAN clarified  that he  wasn't referring  to the  work                                                               
product,  but   to  the  planning   process,  the   roadmap,  the                                                               
improvement project. He sought to  make a distinction between the                                                               
projects  described in  the  STIP and  the  project of  improving                                                               
DOTPF's  internal processes.  He emphasized  that if  there is  a                                                               
desired destination,  it would be  good to document  the starting                                                               
point  and the  steps  of  an execution  plan  to  arrive at  the                                                               
desired  destination.  He reiterated  that  it  is not  the  work                                                               
product resulting from  this process that he  was describing, but                                                               
the roadmap for the improved process itself.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:56:13 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER  ANDERSON said  that  the Tier  2  findings and  the                                                               
requirements   for  documenting   procedures  and   policies,  in                                                               
particular  with the  collaboration between  DOTPF and  the MPOs,                                                               
which, he  said, is some  of the  most confusing aspects  [of the                                                               
STIP process]. He  said the intent is to build  the processes out                                                               
collaboratively with  the MPOs,  acknowledging that the  MPOs may                                                               
have  some different  ideas. He  anticipated a  robust plan  from                                                               
those efforts.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:56:58 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEITH moved to slide 18  and said it is important to document                                                               
the process. She said it is  also important to have the operating                                                               
agreements,  the bylaws,  and  the agreements  with  the MPOs  in                                                               
place,  available,   current  and  in  compliance   with  federal                                                               
regulations, state regulations and statutes.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Governance and Compliance                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        • Upholding Federal Compliance through Reviews.                                                                         
          Conduct  planning certification  reviews, adhering                                                                    
          to federal standards per 23 CFR 450.336(b).                                                                           
        • Regular    Updates   to    Governance   Documents.                                                                    
          Institutionalize  routine   updates  to  documents                                                                    
          (bylaws and  operating agreements),  ensuring they                                                                    
          remain   in  compliance   with  statutes,   policy                                                                    
          frameworks, and best practices in transportation.                                                                     
        • Authoritative Documentation. Maintain guidance or                                                                     
          policies/procedures  as  definitive  records  that                                                                    
          detail process and agreements.                                                                                        
        • Fiscal Planning for Transportation Projects:                                                                          
          Adhere  to   'Year  of   Expenditure'  accounting,                                                                    
          integrating    inflationary     projections    and                                                                    
          understand expectations  for fiscal constraint-CFR                                                                    
          450.218(l).                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:57:42 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KEITH  moved to  slide  19.  She  said  the core  of  DOTPFs                                                               
approach is  multidisciplinary teams, internally  and externally.                                                               
She noted  that more  external stakeholders  will be  included in                                                               
the core team  for developing the STIP moving  forward. She noted                                                               
DOTPF's recognition  of the importance  of the  Regional Planning                                                               
Organizations (RPOs) and that they  intend to support the regions                                                               
in the effort  to form the RPOs so they  can significantly engage                                                               
in the development of projects.  She emphasized the importance of                                                               
improving the  accessibility of  information and  the opportunity                                                               
to  meaningfully communicate  and  collaborate with  constituents                                                               
and stakeholders.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Teaming and Collaboration                                                                                                
        • Form    Multidisciplinary   Teams.    Assemble   a                                                                    
          coalition of internal  and external specialists in                                                                    
          engineering,    planning,   communication,    data                                                                    
          science,  law,   area  knowledge,   and  financial                                                                    
          strategy.                                                                                                             
        • Stakeholder Integration. Foster a collaborative                                                                       
          process with diverse stakeholders.                                                                                    
        • Metropolitan Coordination. Execute coordinated                                                                        
          planning efforts among  MPOs and Regional Planning                                                                    
          Organizations  (RPOs), and  pertinent agencies  in                                                                    
          accordance with 23CFR.450.208.                                                                                        
        • Alignment of Transportation Improvement Programs.                                                                     
          Synchronize    MPO   Transportation    Improvement                                                                    
          Programs (TIPs)  with the STIP,  ensuring regional                                                                    
          uniformity as  specified in 23  CFR.450.218(b) and                                                                    
          (k).                                                                                                                  
        • Tailored Outreach Strategies. Develop targeted                                                                        
          communication      strategies       for      Title                                                                    
          6/Environmental  Justice populations  and minority                                                                    
          serving  organizations to  ensure broad  community                                                                    
          involvement.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:59:36 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR TOBIN  expressed interest  in learning more  about DOTPFs                                                               
outreach  strategies. She  asked  how DOTPF  intends to  quantify                                                               
robust public  process and ensure  maintenance of the  metrics of                                                               
engagement as  they move toward  the rolling STIP. She  asked how                                                               
many staff are tasked with  tribal outreach. She wondered if they                                                               
were  traveling   to  and  engaging   with  the   communities  to                                                               
facilitate full public process.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:00:36 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER  ANDERSON said  that DOTPF  has designated  a tribal                                                               
liaison and beyond that, recognizing  that Alaska is a huge state                                                               
and that  there are hundreds of  tribes, he said there  is a need                                                               
for tribal  liaison in each  division. He  expressed appreciation                                                               
for  the metrics  on community  engagement.  He acknowledged  the                                                               
challenge of providing a variety  of ways to communicate and that                                                               
it would be an ongoing effort.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:01:21 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MYERS  commented on the  volume and magnitude  of changes                                                               
for  DOTPF  in   the  development  of  the   STIP.  He  expressed                                                               
appreciation to the department.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:01:57 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WILSON  noted that there  were projects listed  as having                                                               
been removed  from the STIP  when they were actually  renamed and                                                               
reclassified. He asked  for a list that  accurately described the                                                               
status  of  the  projects,  especially those  that  were  removed                                                               
completely.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:02:46 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON said his office would provide that                                                                        
information to the committee.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:02:58 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAUFMAN offered feedback from constituents who expressed                                                                  
both concern over the perception that projects may not be funded                                                                
and appreciation for an improved level of interface with DOTPF.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:04:35 PM                                                                                                                    
There being no further business to come before the committee,                                                                   
Chair Kaufman adjourned the Senate Transportation Standing                                                                      
Committee meeting at 3:04 p.m.                                                                                                  

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
STIP Approval Update by DOTPF 4.10.24.pdf STRA 4/11/2024 1:30:00 PM
STIP