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01:34:45 PM Presentation(s): Dotpf Winter Weather Operations
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            SENATE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                          
                        February 1, 2024                                                                                        
                           1:33 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 Senator James Kaufman, Chair                                                                                                   
 Senator David Wilson, Vice Chair                                                                                               
 Senator Löki Tobin                                                                                                             
 Senator Jesse Kiehl                                                                                                            
 Senator Robert Myers                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
 MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
 All members present.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
 COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
 PRESENTATION(S): DOTPF WINTER WEATHER OPERATIONS                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
 PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
 No previous action to record.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
 RYAN ANDERSON, Commissioner                                                                                                    
 Department of Transportation and Public Facilities (DOTPF)                                                                     
 Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                 
 POSITION STATEMENT: Co-presented a presentation on DOTPF Winter                                                              
 Weather Operations.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
 ANDY MILLS, Special Assistant                                                                                                  
 Department of Transportation and Public Facilities (DOTPF)                                                                     
 Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                 
 POSITION STATEMENT: Co-presented a presentation on DOTPF Winter                                                              
 Weather Operations.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
 JASON SAKALASKAS, Chief of Maintenance & Operations,                                                                           
 Northern Region                                                                                                                
 Department of Transportation and Public Facilities (DOTPF)                                                                     
 Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                              
 POSITION STATEMENT: Co-presented a presentation on DOTPF Winter                                                              
 Weather Operations.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
BRAD BYLSMA, Fleet Manager                                                                                                      
State Equipment Fleet                                                                                                           
Department of Transportation and Public Facilities (DOTPF)                                                                      
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-presented a presentation on  DOTPF Winter                                                             
Weather Operations.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SEAN HOLLAND, Regional Director                                                                                                 
Central Region                                                                                                                  
Department of Transportation and Public Facilities (DOTPF)                                                                      
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-presented a presentation on  DOTPF Winter                                                             
Weather Operations.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
TIMOTHY GLASSETT, Manager                                                                                                       
Avalanche and Artillery Program                                                                                                 
Department of Transportation and Public Facilities (DOTPF)                                                                      
Girdwood, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Co-presented a presentation on  DOTPF Winter                                                             
Weather Operations.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:33:32 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  JAMES KAUFMAN  called the  Senate Transportation  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 1:33  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order  were  Senators  Kiehl,  Myers,  Tobin,  Wilson  and  Chair                                                               
Kaufman.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S): DOTPF WINTER WEATHER OPERATIONS                                                                             
        PRESENTATION ON DOTPF WINTER WEATHER OPERATIONS                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:34:45 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAUFMAN  announced that  the  agenda  would consist  of  a                                                               
presentation  from the  Department of  Transportation and  Public                                                               
Facilities   (DOTPF)   on   the   department's   winter   weather                                                               
operations.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:36:11 PM                                                                                                                    
RYAN  ANDERSON, Commissioner,  Department  of Transportation  and                                                               
Public  Facilities (DOT&PF),  Fairbanks,  Alaska, introduced  the                                                               
presentation  and indicated  that  the  representatives from  the                                                               
department would  delve into the  strategies for  handling winter                                                               
weather  incidents statewide.  He said  the presentation  aims to                                                               
offer an  overview of the department's  operations, detailing its                                                               
setup, response mechanisms,  equipment deployment, and strategies                                                               
for    addressing   diverse    challenges.   Additionally,    the                                                               
 presentation  would  touch  on   the  significant  winter   storm                                                              
 Anchorage  experienced  the  previous  winter,  as  well  as  the                                                              
 avalanche  program,   highlighting   the   heightened   avalanche                                                              
 activity during the past year.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 1:38:13 PM                                                                                                                   
 SENATOR WILSON noted that  while the heavy snowfall in  Anchorage                                                              
 was acknowledged,  significant snowfall was  also experienced  by                                                              
 the community of Mat-Su just  north of Anchorage, as well as  the                                                              
 Southeast region of  Alaska. He encouraged  DOTPF to think  about                                                              
 what it can do for the Mat-Su.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 1:39:01 PM                                                                                                                   
 ANDY MILLS, Special Assistant,                                                                                                 
 Department of  Transportation  and  Public  Facilities  (DOT&PF),                                                              
 Juneau, Alaska,  moved  to slide  2,  "October  10, 2023  -  Snow                                                              
 Summit":                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
 [Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
      October 10, 2023 - Snow Summit                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     "Gathering of state and local stakeholders to discuss                                                                    
        winter operations, challenges, and innovations."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
      • Keeping Winter Roads Clear (M&O*)                                                                                       
      • Winter Maintenance Priorities for Sidewalks Paths                                                                       
        (FAST Planning)                                                                                                         
     • Designing for Complete Streets in Northern Climates                                                                      
        (Pedestrian and Bike Planning)                                                                                          
      • 511 Innovations and RWIS*** (DMIO**)                                                                                    
      • Winter Snow Removal Operations (M&O*)                                                                                   
      • Extreme Events: How DOT&PF Prepares                                                                                     
        (Commissioner)                                                                                                          
      • Avalanche Program and Innovations                                                                                       
        (Avalanche/Drone Teams)                                                                                                 
      • Seasonal and Ice Roads                                                                                                  
        (UAF Arctic Infrastructure Development Center)                                                                          
      • Snowtrails: Snowmachine Grants                                                                                          
        (DOT&PF Resiliency Coordinator)                                                                                         
     • Innovations: Winter Operations Dashboard and Mobile                                                                      
        RWIS***(DMIO**)                                                                                                         
                                * Maintenance and Operations (M&O)                                                              
                   ** Data Modernization and Innovation Office (DMIO)                                                           
                          ***Road Weather Information System (RWIS)                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MILLS mentioned  that the  inaugural summit  aimed to  bring                                                               
together  stakeholders and  policymakers  to address  a range  of                                                               
issues  and  identify   collaborative  opportunities  to  address                                                               
operational   challenges.   Discussions   included   prioritizing                                                               
sidewalk   maintenance,  recognizing   the  importance   of  non-                                                               
motorized users,  an area where  the department  acknowledges the                                                               
need for  improvement, and expanding  ice roads and  snow trails.                                                               
He  noted that  the summit  saw a  strong turnout,  with over  80                                                               
attendees from Anchorage, and was also streamed online.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:41:55 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MILLS moved  to slide 3, "Snow Summit  Follow-Up: New Tools,"                                                               
depicting a  map of Alaska detailing  winter maintenance priority                                                               
by  district.  He  mentioned  the  establishment  of  a  recently                                                               
created office  within the department,  known as the  Division of                                                               
Modernization  and  Innovation,  which   has  been  a  developing                                                               
initiative.  He noted  Commissioner  Anderson's  emphasis on  the                                                               
significance of innovation, highlighting  the utilization of data                                                               
and   novel  tools   to   enhance   decision-making  within   the                                                               
department.  Additionally, he  stated that  these efforts  aim to                                                               
increase transparency  regarding departmental activities  for the                                                               
public.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. MILLS invited members and  attendees to use their smartphones                                                               
to  scan the  Quick Response  (QR)  code on  the slide,  granting                                                               
access  to the  interactive Geographic  Information System  (GIS)                                                               
map  accessible through  the department's  website. He  mentioned                                                               
the existing  Winter Maintenance Priority map,  acknowledging its                                                               
limitations as  a constrained GIS  map that solely  displayed set                                                               
priorities  without additional  details.  The aim  is to  enhance                                                               
this map by incorporating lane  miles data, enabling the tracking                                                               
of   infrastructure   additions   in  relation   to   maintenance                                                               
priorities  and facilitating  periodic reassessment  as required.                                                               
This  initiative  is intended  to  serve  as  a tool  for  future                                                               
innovation.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:43:59 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR TOBIN said that the  interactive map was helpful and that                                                               
she shared it  with a few constituents.  She sought clarification                                                               
on  the significance  of using  the color  white on  the map  for                                                               
certain roads.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:44:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MILLS  responded that roads  marked in  white on the  map are                                                               
not under  the jurisdiction of  the Department  of Transportation                                                               
(DOT).  In cases  where a  road  lacks any  designated color,  it                                                               
 indicates that  maintenance responsibility  for  that area  falls                                                              
 under a different jurisdiction.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 1:44:45 PM                                                                                                                   
 MR.  MILLS continued  discussing  slide  3.  He  highlighted  the                                                              
 Winter  Operations  Dashboard,  which  is  intended  to   provide                                                              
 service notifications  to  the  public  of when  and  where  snow                                                              
 maintenance  has   been   completed,  without   burdening   other                                                              
 agencies. The  goal of  the dashboard  is to  provide useful  and                                                              
 timely  information  to  the   public  by  including  data   from                                                              
 jurisdictions outside  of the department's  scope. He  emphasized                                                              
 the public is concerned with the condition of the roads;  not who                                                              
 is operating on that specific road.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
 1:46:35 PM                                                                                                                   
 SENATOR   TOBIN   revisited   the   interactive   map,    seeking                                                              
 clarification that roads marked in white, such as in the  case of                                                              
 Gambell and Ingra, are in  fact roads that do not receive  winter                                                              
 maintenance services from DOT.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 1:47:00 PM                                                                                                                   
 MR. MILLS  explained that  such situations  typically arise  from                                                              
 transfer-of-responsibility agreements  (TORA)  for  those  roads.                                                              
 These  cases  involve  DOT  roads  being  maintained  by  another                                                              
 entity, such as the  Municipality of Anchorage. This  arrangement                                                              
 aims  to  optimize  route  efficiency,  with  the   other  entity                                                              
 maintaining the DOTPF road  in exchange for the DOTPF  performing                                                              
 maintenance  on   their   infrastructure.   The   department   is                                                              
 constantly engaged  in reviewing  the list  and making  necessary                                                              
 adjustments.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
 1:47:54 PM                                                                                                                   
 SENATOR TOBIN asked  if that also  includes pedestrian assets  in                                                              
 those areas.  She  highlighted  prioritizing sidewalks  in  heavy                                                              
 pedestrian cities  like Ingra  and Gambell.  She  inquired as  to                                                              
 whether  they   need   to  work   with  municipal   partners   on                                                              
 prioritizing sidewalks.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
 1:48:15 PM                                                                                                                   
 MR. MILLS  referred  to a  project  highlighted during  the  snow                                                              
 summit in which Fairbanks created a separate priority  system for                                                              
 their pedestrian  and unmotorized facilities.  He explained  that                                                              
 DOTPF has prioritization on its roads and that coupling  with the                                                              
 road and  pedestrian facilities is  the same.  To decouple  those                                                              
 allows pedestrians  and  non-motorized  users  to  consider  some                                                              
 facilities that may be lower  from a road perspective but  higher                                                              
 from a  pedestrian perspective,  such as  routes  to schools  and                                                              
transit   facilities.   Some   of    those   could   modify   the                                                               
prioritization of some of  those pedestrian facilities. Currently                                                               
the roads and sidewalks are  coupled together, and the department                                                               
would  work  with  local   jurisdictions  to  establish  separate                                                               
priorities  that  could  modify   how  roads  and  sidewalks  are                                                               
maintained.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:49:19 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WILSON  conveyed  gratitude  for  the  joint  effort  in                                                               
maintaining snow piles that extend  across multiple districts. He                                                               
referenced   Senator   Tobin's    question   regarding   sidewalk                                                               
maintenance. He  sought verification  that because Egan  Drive in                                                               
Juneau  is  a  state  road  DOTPF would  maintain  the  road  and                                                               
coinciding sidewalk.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:50:07 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MILLS  answered that  is  correct.  He said  the  department                                                               
maintains pedestrian facilities associated with priority roads.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:50:24 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER  ANDERSON shifted  the conversation  to address  the                                                               
overarching  perspective of  winter operations  at the  statewide                                                               
level  and how  the department  is structured  across maintenance                                                               
districts to  serve the public.  He turned the  presentation over                                                               
to Mr.  Sakalaskas, who leads  the maintenance facilities  in the                                                               
northern region.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:51:10 PM                                                                                                                    
JASON  SAKALASKAS, Chief  of Maintenance  & Operations,  Northern                                                               
Region,   Alaska   Department   of  Transportation   and   Public                                                               
Facilities  (DOT&PF),  Fairbanks,  Alaska,   moved  to  slide  4,                                                               
"Winter  Operations  and  Budgets",  depicting a  map  of  Alaska                                                               
showing  the   square  mileage  of  each   Alaskan  district.  He                                                               
addressed maintenance operation from  a statewide perspective. He                                                               
explained that  the map displayed regional  and district breakout                                                               
and noted  that some districts  are larger than the  entire state                                                               
of  Florida,  emphasizing that  the  department  tackles a  great                                                               
expanse across the state.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:51:52 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  SAKALASKAS  explained  that  he wanted  to  acknowledge  the                                                               
number  of  districts within  each  region.  He pointed  out  the                                                               
districts  across   the  map.  The   Northern  region   has  nine                                                               
districts,  the  Central  region   has  five  districts  and  the                                                               
Southcoast region  has two districts.  There is a  vast diversity                                                               
of needs  both within  region and district.  He pointed  out that                                                               
the  Western  district  has  a  lot of  airports  and  a  reduced                                                               
 responsibility geared toward roads.  Fairbanks, for example,  has                                                              
 a lot  of  roads  and  limited airports.  The  budgeting  process                                                              
 establishes budget by  region down  to a district  level, due  to                                                              
 widely varied needs,  to provide flexibility  to meet all  needs,                                                              
 and to  allow  resources to  be  moved  within each  district  so                                                              
 services are delivered.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
 1:54:11 PM                                                                                                                   
 SENATOR KIEHL  mentioned the  concept  of consolidating  highways                                                              
 and   airports   within   districts   and   reallocating   assets                                                              
 accordingly. He also expanded on  the idea of utilizing the  same                                                              
 assets for regular  streets. He  inquired whether the  department                                                              
 has explored the feasibility of implementing such measures.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
 1:54:30 PM                                                                                                                   
 MR. SAKALASKAS  replied that  in some  cases  the department  has                                                              
 used airport assets on  highways and that  it depends on how  the                                                              
 funding stream is  invested in the  original piece of  equipment.                                                              
 He said if  the department has state  funded assets at  airports,                                                              
 airports and  state highways  may use  the  assets. In  emergency                                                              
 situations, highways have used assets funded through  the Airport                                                              
 Improvement Program  (AIP).  DOTPF has  worked with  the  Federal                                                              
 Aviation Administration (FAA) to obtain coinciding approvals  and                                                              
 establish processes.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
 1:55:12 PM                                                                                                                   
 SENATOR KIEHL  stated he  was  hopeful that  DOTPF had  found  an                                                              
 efficient  solution,  but  funding   streams  appear  to   hinder                                                              
 efficiency.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
 1:55:31 PM                                                                                                                   
 MR. SAKALASKAS moved to slide 5:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
 [Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
                 Winter Operations and Budgets                                                                                
                  Snow Removal Priority System                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
      Category A:                                                                                                               
      Condition:     Good Winter Driving Conditions                                                                             
      Description:   Bare pavement, good visibility, snow                                                                       
                     removed from lanes and centerline,                                                                         
                     acceptable path widths.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
      Category B:                                                                                                               
      Condition:     Fair to Good Winter Driving Conditions                                                                     
      Description:   Some lane blockage, icy patches, snow                                                                      
                    cleared    from   the    traveled   way,                                                                    
                    generally good traction.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Category C:                                                                                                                
    Condition:     Fair   to   Difficult   Winter   Driving                                                                     
                    Conditions                                                                                                  
     Description:   Passable roads, standing water or loose                                                                     
                    snow, patches may cover some lane                                                                           
                    markings, slow traffic movement                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Category D:                                                                                                                
       Condition:     Difficult to Very Difficult Driving                                                                       
                    Conditions                                                                                                  
    Description:   Challenging   travel,    moderate   snow                                                                     
                    accumulation,     substantial    traffic                                                                    
                    delays.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Category E:                                                                                                                
     Condition:     Hazardous Winter Driving Conditions                                                                         
      Description:   Travel not advised, considerable snow                                                                      
                    accumulation, roads may be icy, poor                                                                        
                    traction, extremely poor conditions.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SAKALASKAS  stated  that  the  categories  in  snow  removal                                                               
priority  systems   create  target  expectation   parameters  for                                                               
management and operators  internally and advise the  public as to                                                               
the conditions of  the roads. He said road  priority levels range                                                               
1-5. Level  1 is the  highest priority and  Level 5 is  for roads                                                               
that are not  maintained during the winter. The  target for Level                                                               
1  roads is  Category  A. He  continued  describing how  priority                                                               
levels  correspond  to  performance target  categories  for  both                                                               
DOTPF and the public.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:58:31 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAUFMAN asked  if  the categories  were  displayed on  the                                                               
dashboard in the previous slide.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:58:43 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  SAKALASKAS  answered  that   is  correct.  The  department's                                                               
priorities aim  for categories  A, B, and  C within  its serviced                                                               
routes.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:58:59 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON  said the 511-traveler  information website                                                               
color  coordinates   with  the   snow  removal   priority  system                                                               
 categories,  and  these  are  the  performance  targets  for  the                                                              
 maintenance  and  operations  staff   and  used  to  report   the                                                              
 condition of the roadways. Over the course of a winter  event, as                                                              
 time progresses through evolution  of a cycle, the conditions  on                                                              
 the 511 websites match the  categories. So, at times, a  priority                                                              
 1 roadway could be at a C level, but the department  will work to                                                              
 get it back to an A.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
 2:00:05 PM                                                                                                                   
 MR. SAKALASKAS moved to slide  6, depicting a map of airports  in                                                              
 Alaska and  said  the  slide  shows the  range  of  diversity  of                                                              
 airport  operations across  the  state.  Roughly  82  percent  of                                                              
 communities in Alaska rely on aviation as their primary  means of                                                              
 access. He  said that  of 235  rural airports,  26  are Part  139                                                              
 Certified.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
 [Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
      "Winter Operations and Budgets":                                                                                        
      Depicting a map of airports in Alaska.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
      235 Rural Airports                                                                                                        
      26 are Part 139 Certified                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
      Rural Airport Contracting                                                                                                 
      Average $50k-$100k per Airport                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
       ~82% of communities in Alaska rely on aviation as                                                                        
      their only means of access.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
 Alaska has both staffed  airports, which are primarily large  hub                                                              
 airports which are Part 139 certified and have DOT  staff present                                                              
 and providing  these  services,  and rural  airports.  The  rural                                                              
 airports  are  serviced  by   Rural  Airport  Maintenance   (RAM)                                                              
 contractors  hired   from   the   community  to   perform   basic                                                              
 maintenance and operations:  snow removal  during winter  months,                                                              
 general aviation  system lighting repairs,  and, most  important,                                                              
 runway condition reporting.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
 MR. SAKALASKAS said  communicating the  conditions of the  runway                                                              
 is done through  a Notice  to Air Mission  (NOTAM) process.  Each                                                              
 morning contractors or airport personnel are required  to inspect                                                              
 runways and provide an  accurate (runway condition) report  which                                                              
 is then distributed in cooperation with flight service  and NOTAM                                                              
 to aircraft, ensuring  that aircraft are  aware of the  condition                                                              
 and potential  hazards at  any given  time at  the airports.  The                                                              
 average annual  contract amount at  rural airports  is $50,000  -                                                              
$100,000  per airport.  The annual  cost associated  with running                                                               
the contracts  is $3-4 million.  There are about  128 contractors                                                               
across the region,  and they are vitally  important to delivering                                                               
goods and services to remote communities.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:03:26 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WILSON  addressed the operational aspects  of the budget,                                                               
noting concerns  raised by a  few department  operators regarding                                                               
timely payments.  He suggested  that addressing  personnel issues                                                               
related  to   maintaining  work  morale  could   be  crucial  for                                                               
retention.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:03:59 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON responded  that payroll is a  focus for the                                                               
department.  He  said DOTPF  recognizes  the  importance of  crew                                                               
member  retention, and  if someone  isn't paid  or has  a serious                                                               
payroll  problem,  there is  an  employee  in the  commissioner's                                                               
office  who  has  been  tasked with  contacting  the  worker  and                                                               
resolving  the issue  as quickly  as possible.  Additionally, the                                                               
department is  working with all its  divisions to stay on  top of                                                               
payroll  issues. The  department has  taken proactive  steps, for                                                               
instance it has taken back  payroll for the Alaska Marine Highway                                                               
System.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:05:31 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAUFMAN asked if there  was more information on the subject                                                               
that the department could provide to the committee.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:05:35 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON answered yes.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:05:37 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WILSON  asked if the  commissioner took over  payroll for                                                               
the entire department or just the Alaska Marine Highway system.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:05:48 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER  ANDERSON responded  that DOTPF  assumed control  of                                                               
payroll  exclusively  for  the   Alaska  Marine  Highway  system,                                                               
particularly for the maritime unions.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:05:59 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR TOBIN  noted that  she was  born and  raised in  Nome and                                                               
many community members  in her father's social  circle were DOTPF                                                               
employees who  serviced the  airport runways.  She asked  how the                                                               
128 contracts  today compared to  contracts 10-20 years  ago. She                                                               
contended that  in rural Alaska  DOTPF positions are  coveted and                                                               
asked if  there was  an increase  in contract  positions, because                                                               
 the state has been unable  to recruit and retain DOTPF  employees                                                              
 in rural  areas. She asked  if the  rural airports  were to  have                                                              
 DOTPF  employees, what  would  it  cost  the  state  to  run  the                                                              
 airports on average.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
 2:06:56 PM                                                                                                                   
 COMMISSIONER   ANDERSON   responded   that   the   workforce   is                                                              
 experiencing stress  all around;  there are  areas  where it  has                                                              
 been tough  to find contractors.  The department  is trying  more                                                              
 programs to  stimulate interest  in  DOTPF jobs.  He said  it  is                                                              
 tough  to  compare  contracting   to  in-house  costs,  but   the                                                              
 department would provide the information to the committee.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
 2:08:33 PM                                                                                                                   
 COMMISSIONER  ANDERSON  moved  to  slide  7,  "Winter  Operations                                                              
 Staffing". He  explained  that the  table shows  the  maintenance                                                              
 districts  in  the  state  with  their  corresponding   Equipment                                                              
 Operator Positions and vacancy  rates for those positions,  based                                                              
 on a report from January 29, 2024.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
 He stated the following:                                                                                                       
   • The average vacancy rate is 22.3 percent.                                                                                  
   • Some camps within the districts have 50 percent vacancy                                                                    
      rates.                                                                                                                    
   • Pre-pandemic DOTPF vacancy rates were 8-12 percent.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
 He quoted  statistics from  a report  from  the Alaska  Ombudsman                                                              
 Office (OMB)for the six-month  period: July 15, 2023 to  December                                                              
 15, 2023, as follows:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
   • 378 DOTPF positions were vacated.                                                                                          
      o 225, (sixty percent) left state service.                                                                                
      o 153 (40 percent) moved to other state positions.                                                                        
      o 103 of the 225 who left state service were equipment                                                                    
        operators with an average of 2.5 years of service,                                                                      
        compared with an overall average of 3.5 years of service.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
 He emphasized:                                                                                                                 
    o Equipment operators at DOTPF are not sticking around.                                                                     
      o DOTPF is paying attention to these statistics and                                                                       
        considering possibilities (for the future).                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
   • In contrast, during this period, DOTPF hired 358 people.                                                                   
      o 22 of the DOTPF new hires came from other state service.                                                                
      o 152 were new to state service.                                                                                          
      o The remainder were internal promotions.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:11:29 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAUFMAN  remarked  on  the statistics  and  asked  if  the                                                               
department  would have  the appropriate  equipment  ready if  the                                                               
positions were fully staffed.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:11:59 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER  ANDERSON answered,  there is  enough equipment.  He                                                               
said  what  would change  is  overtime  usage. Equipment  use  is                                                               
connected  to scheduling  and the  availability  of operators  to                                                               
work the  extra shifts. People are  going above and beyond  a lot                                                               
to complete the work.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:12:33 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  TOBIN emphasized  the  importance  of retaining  current                                                               
employees  and inquired  about strategies  in place  for employee                                                               
retention.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:12:45 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER  ANDERSON said  the department  has taken  different                                                               
approaches  to retention.  The department  recognizes that  there                                                               
are ongoing  union negotiations and  therefore won't  comment. He                                                               
said the  department implemented a  two-day on, two-day  off work                                                               
schedule  in  a  remote  area that  staff  found  appealing.  The                                                               
department also  did an exercise  on the west coast  with mission                                                               
critical incentive  pay. He mentioned  that the  department could                                                               
not have maintained airport operations  if significant numbers of                                                               
staff  were  lost.  He  acknowledged  the  challenge  of  finding                                                               
specialized workers.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:14:08 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WILSON asked  whether DOTPF is managing  their own hiring                                                               
and recruitment.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:14:21 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER ANDERSON  answered yes.  The department has  a group                                                               
focused  on the  recruitment process  with a  communications team                                                               
focused  on outreach  through social  media  and strategizing  to                                                               
change  the tone  and language  of recruitment  notices. He  said                                                               
effort  is made  to "sell  Alaska  right" and  emphasize to  non-                                                               
residents that DOTPF jobs are prevalent across the state.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:15:12 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WILSON  said  the Department  of  Family  and  Community                                                               
Services  (DFCS) shortened  the time  from the  interview to  the                                                               
date  of hire  from  30 to  10  days. He  relayed  that a  diesel                                                               
 mechanic who applied to DOTPF  waited 45 days to start  following                                                              
 his interview. He asked if DOTPF is monitoring this timeframe.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 2:15:51 PM                                                                                                                   
 COMMISSIONER ANDERSON  answered that the  department tracks  that                                                              
 information and would provide it to the committee.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
 2:16:26 PM                                                                                                                   
 BRAD BYLSMA, Manager State  Equipment Fleet (SEF), Department  of                                                              
 Transportation and Public Facilities (DOT&PF), Anchorage,  Alaska                                                              
 moved to slide  8 and shared the  following information and  said                                                              
 the map shows every station that is manned with a mechanic:                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
 [Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
      Supporting Divisions: Statewide Equipment Fleet and                                                                     
      Division of Facility Services                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
        51 Maintenance Shops Statewide                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
        Over 8,500 pieces of state equipment and vehicles                                                                       
        for:                                                                                                                    
        • Executive branch                                                                                                      
        • University of Alaska                                                                                                  
        • Other state agencies                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
        827 public facilities                                                                                                   
        • 731 DOT&PF owned.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
 2:18:35 PM                                                                                                                   
 MR. BYLSMA  moved  to slide  9,  "Statewide Equipment  Fleet  and                                                              
 Division of Facility  Services Staffing",  consisting of a  table                                                              
 organized by  Maintenance Districts detailing  how many  mechanic                                                              
 and facilities  positions are available  and their  corresponding                                                              
 vacancy rates.  He emphasized the  challenge of  keeping up  with                                                              
 worker retention  in wintertime.  The Statewide  Equipment  Fleet                                                              
 and Division  of Facility Services  provides maintenance  support                                                              
 to the state  troopers, the  Alaska Department of  Fish and  Game                                                              
 (ADF&G), and  every agency under  the executive  branch so  their                                                              
 energy is spent  maintaining vehicles and  roads for many  areas.                                                              
 He  gave an  example  from  the  slide  highlighting  maintenance                                                              
 challenges for  Anchorage.  Winter snow  and ice  removal  causes                                                              
 wear and  damage  to  the  vehicles and  creates  more  work  for                                                              
 underfilled mechanic positions.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 2:21:23 PM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR  KIEHL  asked  whether the  department  had  700  non-DOT                                                               
vehicles in  total. He commented  that the number seemed  low and                                                               
asked  about  the true  dividing  line  between DOT  and  non-DOT                                                               
vehicles.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:21:45 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BYLSMA responded  that the previous slide  showed 8500 pieces                                                               
of equipment  and that 800 of  those belong to the  University of                                                               
Alaska and  other quasi-state  agencies. He  said that  there are                                                               
7700  pieces across  all  departments and  about  4500 are  DOTPF                                                               
assets.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:22:14 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  BYLSMA  continued reviewing  slide  9,  speaking of  vacancy                                                               
rates for  facilities. He said  that there is one  technician for                                                               
every ten  facilities to maintain. Maintaining  a consistent team                                                               
of  technicians   and  maintenance   staff  presents   a  notable                                                               
challenge in ensuring the upkeep of facilities.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:23:00 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL expressed his approval  of running a lean operation                                                               
and noted  that in smaller areas  a lot of vehicle  mechanics are                                                               
fixing buildings. He  asked about the adequacy of  these teams in                                                               
smaller communities.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:23:36 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  BYLSMA  responded  that  is correct;  there  is  overlap  in                                                               
skillset, toolset, and abilities  to maintain both facilities and                                                               
equipment, therefore  overlap occurs in  some of the  work. There                                                               
are lots  of things that  do not  cross over, for  example, heavy                                                               
duty diesel mechanics  are not electricians. Although  there is a                                                               
need  for  both,  he  emphasized  the  challenges  posed  by  the                                                               
department's high vacancy rates for needed positions.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:24:58 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL  said he  applauds  the  department employees  for                                                               
their  work.  He  pointed  out  that  sometimes  heavy  equipment                                                               
mechanics are  doing the work  of electricians. He  asked whether                                                               
the department, if  staffed with the number  of workers allocated                                                               
in their budget, would be able to maintain its buildings.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:25:20 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BYLSMA  said that, from  the perspective of  fleet equipment,                                                               
if  the department  were fully  staffed,  it would  significantly                                                               
enhance   efficiency  in   managing  equipment   and  facilities,                                                               
resulting  in   reduced  downtime   and  better   maintenance  of                                                               
operations.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
 2:26:12 PM                                                                                                                   
 SEAN   HOLLAND,   Director,   Central   Region,   Department   of                                                              
 Transportation  and   Public  Facilities   (DOT&PF),   Anchorage,                                                              
 Alaska, moved to slide 10:                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
 [Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
      Winter Events Response:                                                                                                 
      Anchorage November 8-12, 2023 Nov. 8 Snowstorm starts. National Weather Service                                                                   
           issues  storm,  high   wind  and  flood   warnings                                                                   
           throughout Southcentral  (Valdez,  Thompson  Pass,                                                                   
           Anchorage, Turnagain Arm, Turnagain Pass, South  &                                                                   
           West Copper  River  Basin, Susitna  and  Matanuska                                                                   
           Valleys, and  Western  Kenai Peninsula  (over  50K                                                                   
           sq. miles  = New  York). Temperatures  around  30-                                                                   
           31F.                                                                                                                 
     •    Nov. 8 Breaks daily snow record with 9" of heavy                                                                    
           wet snow.                                                                                                            
     •    Nov. 9 Continues of up to 30" total snow fall, of                                                                   
           high moisture content snow.                                                                                          
      •    Nov. 12 Another round of snow of over 7.5"                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
      Relevant Factors                                                                                                        
      •    Equipment down-time                                                                                                  
      •    Moisture content of snow                                                                                             
      •    High-traffic volumes                                                                                                 
      •    Winter shift changeovers just started                                                                                
      •    Single snow haul site                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 MR. HOLLAND shared that he is new to the department but  spent 18                                                              
 years prior with a three-year interim in the private  sector. His                                                              
 first day was November 7, 2023, and this massive  snowstorm event                                                              
 started on  November  8.  He shared  his  eye-opening  experience                                                              
 witnessing how response to the event was orchestrated,  involving                                                              
 constant  communication  from  the   commissioner  down  to   the                                                              
 maintenance superintendent and impressive strategic operations.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 MR. HOLLAND  drew attention  to a  recent  newspaper report  that                                                              
 Anchorage has  received 104  inches of  snowfall  this year.  The                                                              
 city is  on  track to  break  the record  of  135 inches  set  in                                                              
 2011/12, with the snowiest  months of February, March, and  April                                                              
 still ahead.  The  average annual  snowfall  is 76  inches.  This                                                              
 November set a record with over  39 inches in one week. The  snow                                                              
had high moisture  content, adding up to 30 inches  in just a few                                                               
days. Water  content is significant because  traffic compacts it,                                                               
creating  snowpack.  Removal  of snowpack  requires  much  slower                                                               
grader  operation.  Anecdotally,  the   crew  said  clearing  the                                                               
November 2023  snow took twice as  long to remove than  a typical                                                               
snowstorm.  Winter crew  shifts  are 24/7.  On  paper it  appears                                                               
there are three hours when  stations aren't manned, however crews                                                               
are  alert  and available  24/7.  He  said  the crews  are  still                                                               
recovering from the recent snow event.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOLLAND  pointed out  the urban  snow removal  is challenging                                                               
because  crews need  to  pick up  and haul  snow  to snow  dumps.                                                               
Anchorage currently  has one snow  dump. He said it  is difficult                                                               
to predict new norms and  unnecessary to gear operations based on                                                               
record seasons. The department can  always do better in providing                                                               
our crews with fail safes to handle extraordinary events.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:30:49 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. HOLLAND reviewed slide 11.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Winter Event Response:                                                                                                        
Anchorage November 2023                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
        Anchorage District In-house Resources, Emergency                                                                      
               Contracts, Memorandum of Agreement                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     DOT&PF                                                                                                                   
     •    48 equipment operators                                                                                                
     •    13 plow trucks                                                                                                        
     •    9 graders                                                                                                             
     •    4 loaders                                                                                                             
     •    4 highway snowblowers                                                                                                 
     •    4 sidewalk snowblowers                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Event-only Emergency Contracts                                                                                           
     •    Executed 3 emergency contracts due to November                                                                        
          event                                                                                                                 
         square4 Provide 2 winter-equipped graders                                                                              
         square4 Priority 3 and 4 roadways                                                                                      
         square4 Sidewalks                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Slide 11 includes insets:                                                                                                       
          $1.17M supplemental request pending for this event                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                   Memorandum of Agreement between DOT&PF and                                                                   
                Municipality of Anchorage for event response.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 MR. HOLLAND  noted that  the items  listed  are high  maintenance                                                              
 equipment. He reported  that during  the November snowstorm,  the                                                              
 sidewalk blowers went through  more shear pins than are  normally                                                              
 spent in an entire season. He emphasized that replacing  the pins                                                              
 is not a simple process and greatly slows production.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
 MR. HOLLAND stressed that plowing is hard on trucks,  graders and                                                              
 infrastructure. He emphasized that  operating plows is a  skilled                                                              
 trade, requiring about 3 years of training.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
 2:32:36 PM                                                                                                                   
 CHAIR  KAUFMAN  asked   whether  there   is  mobile   maintenance                                                              
 capability for the equipment or does the equipment have to  go to                                                              
 a shop for repair.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
 2:32:56 PM                                                                                                                   
 MR. HOLLAND replied DOTPF can replace shear pins in the field.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 2:32:58 PM                                                                                                                   
 CHAIR  KAUFMAN anecdotally  described  damage  to  a  plow  truck                                                              
 caused by  colliding  with  a  protruding manway  rim.  He  asked                                                              
 whether the department  sees that  kind of damage  often and  are                                                              
 there ways to prevent it.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
 2:34:02 PM                                                                                                                   
 MR.   HOLLAND    answered   that    modifications   to    manhole                                                              
 specifications  have  reduced  collisions.  Manhole  frames   and                                                              
 covers are now recessed.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
 2:34:41 PM                                                                                                                   
 SENATOR WILSON asked  whether there is  a minimum standard  depth                                                              
 that is maintained for manholes  as some seem to get deeper  over                                                              
 time.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
 2:35:10 PM                                                                                                                   
 MR.  HOLLAND replied  that  the  standard  is  one  quarter  inch                                                              
 recessed. DOTPF adjusts  the depth  of manholes when  resurfacing                                                              
 pavement.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
 2:35:34 PM                                                                                                                   
 SENATOR TOBIN  described stop signs  in her  community that  were                                                              
 plowed through and not re-erected;  so, traffic does not stop  in                                                              
those places.  She asked  whether DOTPF will  fix the  damage and                                                               
who the community should alert.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:36:20 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. HOLLAND  advised that DOTPF's  website provides  contacts for                                                               
reporting  asset  damage. He  mentioned  the  pothole hotline  to                                                               
email or  call. He stated  that safety equipment, stop  signs and                                                               
guardrails are repaired when damaged.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:36:57 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. HOLLAND  continued discussing slide  11 and said to  give the                                                               
committee  a  snapshot   of  what  it  takes  to   keep  a  fleet                                                               
operational, he would share yesterday's  operational data for the                                                               
Anchorage district.                                                                                                             
   • There are 48 operator positions, 39 of which are filled; 5                                                                 
     of  those are  seasonal.  He pointed  out  that the  average                                                               
     full-time  equipment   operator  cost  to  the   state,  not                                                               
     including paycheck,  is $140k to  $150k each per  year. That                                                               
     cost varies based on regional adjustments.                                                                                 
   • There are 13 plow trucks, 6 operational.                                                                                   
   • There are 9 graders, 5 operational. There are 4 loaders,                                                                   
     all operational.                                                                                                           
   • There are 4 highway snowblowers, 2 operational.                                                                            
   • There are 4 sidewalk blowers, 1 operational.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
He noted that starting this  year DOTPF has on-call contracts for                                                               
sidewalk blowers in  addition to DOTPF operators. He  said by the                                                               
end  of the  November  event, DOTPF  was  plowing sidewalks  with                                                               
trucks because all  their blowers were broken  down. He explained                                                               
that  DOTPF  also  has  on-call contracts  for  graders  to  plow                                                               
Priorities 3  and 4 roadways,  and snow  haul. He said  the State                                                               
pays  $180 per  hour for  side dumps  and $195-250  per hour  for                                                               
graders and $175 per hour for sidewalk snowblowers.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:39:36 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  HOLLAND  acknowledged  that  change  management  to  on-call                                                               
contracts was  poor. He expressed  strong conviction of  the need                                                               
to  maintain a  core  of  expert crew  in  Anchorage. He  clearly                                                               
stated it  is not  the goal  of DOT to  100 percent  replace crew                                                               
with contractors. He  stated that the primary  use of contractors                                                               
is to level the resources; plan  for average years and in higher-                                                               
than-average years rely on contractors  to fill the gap. He noted                                                               
that, in  response to  the November 2023  event, DOT  worked with                                                               
the Northern Region  to provide an additional  highway blower and                                                               
the Mat-Su District  to plow further down both the  Glenn and the                                                               
 Parks highways.  This  allowed the  Central  Region to  focus  on                                                              
 urban areas.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
 2:40:44 PM                                                                                                                   
 CHAIR KAUFMAN  asked  about the  timing  of contracts  to  ensure                                                              
 readiness when needed.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
 2:41:30 PM                                                                                                                   
 MR.  HOLLAND  acknowledged  that   setting  up  of  the   on-call                                                              
 contracts happened  a little  late, about  seven  days after  the                                                              
 storm began. He stated that the goal is to have the  contracts in                                                              
 place by October.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 2:42:05 PM                                                                                                                   
 SENATOR MYERS  expressed  surprise that  Anchorage only  has  one                                                              
 snow dump, whereas  Fairbanks has 6-8. He  offered that a  common                                                              
 spot  for   snow  dumps   is  between   overpasses  and   highway                                                              
 interchanges and wondered if  DOT considered these locations  for                                                              
 Anchorage.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
 2:42:30 PM                                                                                                                   
 MR. HOLLAND  agreed  that more  snow  dump  areas are  needed  in                                                              
 Anchorage and said he  would add the  suggestions to the list  of                                                              
 possible locations.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
 2:42:57 PM                                                                                                                   
 SENATOR  TOBIN  recalled  testimony  from  Department  of  Health                                                              
 personnel who  explained that a  significant factor  in the  SNAP                                                              
 program backlog was  the inability  of SNAP personnel  to get  to                                                              
 their office during  the snow event.  She noted the  supplemental                                                              
 request  and wondered  if  any  of  the  additional  funds  would                                                              
 address the  unintended consequences  caused by  state  employees                                                              
 not being able to get to work.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 2:44:18 PM                                                                                                                   
 MR. HOLLAND affirmed  the $1.17  million supplemental request  is                                                              
 for  cost  over  normal  operations.  It  covers  the  contractor                                                              
 payments; overtime  premium and  equipment use  that DOTPF  would                                                              
 not normally incur. He acknowledged and concurred that  there was                                                              
 significant economic  impact from kids  not going  to school  and                                                              
 people not getting to their jobs.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 2:44:56 PM                                                                                                                   
 SENATOR KIEHL wondered whether the team is big enough and  if the                                                              
 department has the assets  needed to address reasonably  expected                                                              
 weather events.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:45:50 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. HOLLAND replied  that the question is subjective  in his view                                                               
and  the  department is  geared  up  for  an average  snow  year,                                                               
provided the operator positions are  filled. He affirmed that DOT                                                               
has  adequate resources  at hand  for an  average winter  with 73                                                               
inches of snowfall.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:46:34 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL responded  that according to the  chart [slide 10],                                                               
Anchorage has experienced  four years with 30  inches of snowfall                                                               
in November,  leading him to  question whether 73 inches  of snow                                                               
for an entire winter is the right target.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:46:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAUFMAN  suggested that  the question may  be, what  is the                                                               
trend.  He said  it  is  the difference  between  looking at  the                                                               
average and the trends.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:47:02 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WILSON  followed up on  Senator Myers'  inquiry regarding                                                               
snow dumps.  He inquired  if is a  way to get  a waiver  from the                                                               
Department of  Environmental Conservation (DEC) to  allow snow to                                                               
be plowed directly into an inlet in an emergency there.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:47:48 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER  ANDERSON replied  that the  department has  permits                                                               
for emergency events  in other areas, but not  Anchorage. He said                                                               
he appreciates  the suggestion, and the  department will consider                                                               
it.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:48:38 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. HOLLAND moved to slide 12 and explained the Transfer of                                                                     
Responsibility Agreement (TORA) between DOTPF and the City of                                                                   
Anchorage. The agreement allows DOT to plow high speed roadways                                                                 
and the municipality can handle neighborhoods and smaller                                                                       
streets to improve efficiency. Region is also a factor affecting                                                                
which roads are swapped by essentially determining how to use                                                                   
time and equipment to efficiently plow roads. He opined that the                                                                
cost of gaining assistance from the City of Anchorage through 3                                                                 
emergency contracts was not significant.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Winter Event Response: Moving Forward                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer of Responsibility Agreement                                                                                       
     (TORA) between DOT&PF and the                                                                                              
      Municipality of Anchorage                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
      Long-Term Contracts in Place                                                                                            
      square4 Non-Motorized Paths: Old Glenn; Eagle River Loop;                                                                 
        North Birchwood; O'Malley; Jewel Lake                                                                                   
      square4 Roads: Potter; Sand Lake; International; West                                                                     
        Dimond; Kincaid                                                                                                         
      square4 Roads: O'Malley; Elmore; Abbot; Hillside; Rabbit                                                                  
        Creek; DeArmoun; Huffman; Birch                                                                                         
      square4 Roads: Post; Old Glenn; Eagle River Road; Eklutna                                                                 
        Lake; Birchwood Loop                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
 MR.  Holland  observed  that  the  November  event   provided  an                                                              
 opportunity to identify deficiencies and make improvements.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
 MR. HOLLAND  stated that  he takes  responsibility for  sidewalks                                                              
 and pathways not being cleared. He emphasized that this is  not a                                                              
 reflection on the  crews. Crews need to  be properly equipped  to                                                              
 carry out the work, including when the demand is extraordinary.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 2:51:48 PM                                                                                                                   
 MR. HOLLAND  explained that equipping  summer seasonal  equipment                                                              
 with attachments  that allow  equipment to  adapt  to winter  use                                                              
 will  lower  equipment  ownership  costs.  He  described  several                                                              
 possible examples,  especially  for  equipment  that  is  usually                                                              
 parked during the winter months.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
 MR. HOLLAND reported that the department intends to  dedicate two                                                              
 operators to start  clearing sidewalks  at the onset  of a  heavy                                                              
 snow event and transition to  more {sidewalk} support as soon  as                                                              
 roads are cleared.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
 MR.  HOLLAND  noted  that   the  response  has  failed  to   meet                                                              
 expectations on  Priorities 3  and 4  roads,  and the  department                                                              
 will continue to  investigate the "triggers"  for calls for  more                                                              
 equipment and  operators and  how best  to  meet the  performance                                                              
 goals.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
 2:53:31 PM                                                                                                                   
 MR. HOLLAND  said  that  the department  would  also  investigate                                                              
 installing gates on graders  which will allow passage through  an                                                              
 intersection while carrying  most of the  snow to avoid  creating                                                              
 berms.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
 The department will also revisit the TORA with the city.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
 2:53:59 PM                                                                                                                   
MR. HOLLAND moved to slide 13.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Winter Event Response: Moving Forward                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Priority System in Anchorage: Non-motorized                                                                              
     •    Significant pedestrian facilities to clear                                                                            
     •    Limited snow storage                                                                                                  
     •    "Complete Streets" policy pending                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                           Sidewalk Priority                                                                    
                                                1)66.1 miles                                                                    
                                                2)35.3 miles                                                                    
                                                3)46.7 miles                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                           Total 148.1 miles                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HOLLAND  noted the  significant  pedestrian  assets and  the                                                               
challenges to  clearing them, including limited  snow storage and                                                               
the  timing  and  coordination  for  snow  handling  between  the                                                               
sidewalks  and streets.  The department  will continue  to assess                                                               
these methods and  practices with the goal  of improving outcomes                                                               
and  efficiency. He  noted  that coupling  the  priority for  the                                                               
roadways with  the priority for  the sidewalks will  further help                                                               
with planning and efficiency.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  Holland explained  that the  "complete streets"  policy will                                                               
include modernizing  some of  the roads  in Anchorage  to provide                                                               
extra  snow storage.  He acknowledged  that policy  includes some                                                               
road design safety features, such  as "roundabouts" and "porkchop                                                               
islands, that create snow removal challenges.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:55:31 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAUFMAN  wondered  if the  snow  handling  strategy  might                                                               
change from pushing it aside to lifting and removing.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:56:02 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. HOLLAND replied that it is much  faster to put snow in a pile                                                               
than to put it  in a truck. The process now is to  pile it up and                                                               
come  back later  to pick  it up  and haul  it away  in a  truck.                                                               
Identifying snow  dumps in  different areas of  the city  will be                                                               
important to improve efficiency.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:56:56 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL commended  DOT for  the vast  improvement clearing                                                               
snow   from  non-motorized   roads,   compared   with  his   past                                                               
 experience, especially for people going to school and to  work on                                                              
 foot and by bike.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 2:58:28 PM                                                                                                                   
 TIMOTHY GLASSETT,  Manager,  Statewide  Avalanche  and  Artillery                                                              
 Program,  Department  of  Transportation  and  Public  Facilities                                                              
 (DOTPF), Girdwood, Alaska moved to slide 14 to  discuss Avalanche                                                              
 Highway Closures and the Avalanche Mitigation Program.  The slide                                                              
 consists of  several photos  and two  tables. Table  1 is  titled                                                              
 "AHI Hazard  Levels and  Typical Mitigation",  while  Table 2  is                                                              
 titled "AHI  and CBE  Levels for  Moderate and  Higher AMZs".  He                                                              
 stated the seventh  duty of DOT  is to  develop and implement  an                                                              
 avalanche  control  plan.to  protect   persons  who  use   public                                                              
 highways. This is accomplished  through short-term and  long-term                                                              
 measures. Long  term  measures are  engineering design.  He  drew                                                              
 attention to an aerial photo  of a section of the Seward  Highway                                                              
 with its old road alignment.  The section of road was  considered                                                              
 "the most  dangerous  highway in  North  America with  regard  to                                                              
 avalanche risk" by a preeminent avalanche engineer at  that time.                                                              
 With the change of  road alignment, this  is no longer the  case.                                                              
 Permanent measures  are  the  long-term solution,  but  they  are                                                              
 capital intensive.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
 MR.  GLASSETT  described  the  Sterling  and  Seward  interchange                                                              
 project as  an example  of implementing  long-term measures  that                                                              
 would have  great effect  towards reducing  risk and  eliminating                                                              
 the need for  short-term measures.  He explained that  short-term                                                              
 measures include avalanche mitigation for preventive closures.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 3:00:54 PM                                                                                                                   
 MR. GLASSETT explained  the tables and  said DOT's primary  means                                                              
 to mitigate avalanches  is artillery. He  reported that the  army                                                              
 says DOT  must  "move away  from  artillery"  and in  5-15  years                                                              
 artillery will no longer be  an option. DOT is considering  long-                                                              
 term  solutions,  including  remote  avalanche  control   systems                                                              
 (RACS) and discussed new technology to mitigate avalanches.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
 3:02:16 PM                                                                                                                   
 MR. GLASSETT moved to slide 15:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 [Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
      Winter Event Response:                                                                                                  
      New Technology in Avalanche Mitigation                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Pioneering Drone Dock Testing: First in the nation to                                                                    
     test drone docks for automated imagery collection.                                                                         
     Purpose: Enhances snow depth modeling and weather                                                                        
     observation.                                                                                                               
     Digital Transformation with GIS: Leading in digitizing                                                                   
     avalanche paths for improved asset management.                                                                             
     Avalanche Hazard Reduction: Nationwide first to                                                                          
     receive approval for using explosives with drones for                                                                      
     avalanche control.                                                                                                         
     Bridging the Gap: Utilizing UAS (Unmanned Aircraft                                                                       
     Systems) as a step towards long-term hazard                                                                                
     mitigation.                                                                                                                
     Future Focus: Implementing RACs (Remote Avalanche                                                                        
     Control Systems) for enhanced safety.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. GLASSETT reported  that DOT currently has  two initiatives in                                                               
the research phase:                                                                                                             
   • Remote drone UAS (Unmanned Aircraft Systems) docks are                                                                     
     programmed   to   map   avalanche  paths,   providing   more                                                               
     information  to  decide  more  accurately  where  mitigation                                                               
     should be  done. That will  also provide data to  inform the                                                               
     build-out of Remote Avalanche Control Systems (RACS).                                                                      
   • Testing UAS (Unmanned Aircraft Systems) to determine                                                                       
     whether they could be used to safely, accurately, reliably                                                                 
     deploy mitigation explosives.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GLASSETT   explained  that   artillery  as  an   option  for                                                               
mitigating  avalanche risk  will  go  away and  there  is no  one                                                               
system  that can  replace it.  He asserts  that UAS  systems will                                                               
fill the gap for locations where RACS are not cost-effective.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:04:34 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WILSON asked  why artillery would no longer  be an option                                                               
and  if  it  would  be  possible  to  observe  demonstrations  of                                                               
artillery and drone systems deployed to mitigate avalanche risk.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:05:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GLASSETT  explained that  there  are  multiple reasons  that                                                               
artillery will no longer be an option:                                                                                          
   • Alaska DOT currently has a Memorandum of Agreement (MOA)                                                                   
     with the US Army to use artillery which will go away as                                                                    
     commercial options become available.                                                                                       
   • Alaska has gone through four types of artillery to date.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.   GLASSETT   explained    that   opportunities   to   observe                                                               
demonstrations  are   limited  due  to  safety   and  manufacture                                                               
concerns.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
 3:07:00 PM                                                                                                                   
 SENATOR WILSON inquired as to the timeline for  discontinuing the                                                              
 use of artillery.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 3:07:08 PM                                                                                                                   
 MR. GLASSETT  replied that  the timeline  is  indefinite. The  US                                                              
 Army can discontinue allowing the use of artillery at any time.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 3:08:28 PM                                                                                                                   
 COMMISSIONER ANDERSON noted that there  is a lot more to  discuss                                                              
 and that  DOTPF is  happy  to do  so on  any topic  whenever  the                                                              
 committee wishes to do so.  He expressed his hope that what  they                                                              
 were able to share today conveyed the breadth of DOT's  work from                                                              
 equipment operators to mechanics  to facilities and how they  all                                                              
 work together.  He emphasized that  DOT does  share resources  to                                                              
 provide service to the  public and that  having a strong team  to                                                              
 work  toward common  goals  of  plowing  the  roads  and  keeping                                                              
 highways  safe amongst  the  challenges  is  the  direction  they                                                              
 intend to continue.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
 3:10:29 PM                                                                                                                   
 There being  no further business  to come  before the  committee,                                                              
 Chair  Kaufman  adjourned  the  Senate  Transportation   Standing                                                              
 Committee meeting at 3:10 p.m.                                                                                                 

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
2.1 DOTPF Winter Weather Operations.pdf STRA 2/1/2024 1:30:00 PM