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03:31:23 PM Start
03:32:43 PM Presentation: Disaster Preparedness by Bryan Fisher, Director of Alaska Division of Homeland Security
04:10:24 PM Presentation: 2025 Fire Suppression Update by Norm Mcdonald, Deputy Director of Forestry and Fire Protection
04:53:10 PM SB188
05:04:28 PM Adjourn
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Norm McDonald, Deputy Directory Forestry
Presentation: Disaster Preparedness by
Bryan Fisher, Director Alaska Division of
Homeland Security
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            SENATE STATE AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                        FEBRUARY 3, 2026                                                                                      
                           3:31 P.M.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
Senator Scott Kawasaki, Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Jesse Bjorkman, Vice Chair                                                                                              
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
Senator Elvi Gray-Jackson                                                                                                       
Senator Cathy Tilton                                                                                                            
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
PRESENTATION: 2025 FIRE SUPPRESSION UPDATE BY NORM MCDONALD~                                                                    
DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF FORESTRY AND FIRE PROTECTION                                                                                 
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
PRESENTATION: DISASTER PREPAREDNESS BY BRYAN FISHER~ DIRECTOR OF                                                                
ALASKA DIVISION OF HOMELAND SECURITY                                                                                            
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PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
BILL: SB 188                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: TANANA VALLEY STATE FOREST                                                                                         
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
05/02/25       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
05/02/25       (S)       STA, RES                                                                                               
02/03/26       (S)       STA AT 3:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
BRYAN FISHER, Director                                                                                                          
Division of Homeland Security and                                                                                               
Emergency Management (DHSEM)                                                                                                    
Department of Military and Veterans Affairs                                                                                     
JBER, Alaska                                                                                                                    
POSITION   STATEMENT:  Provided   a   presentation  on   Disaster                                                             
Preparedness.                                                                                                                   
NORM MCDONALD, Deputy Director                                                                                                  
Division of Forestry & Fire Protection                                                                                          
Department of Natural Resources (DNR)                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT: Provided  a  presentation on  the 2025  Fire                                                             
Suppression update.                                                                                                             
BRENT GOODRUM, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                              
Department of Natural Resources                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Answered  questions  regarding   the  fire                                                             
suppression update.                                                                                                             
JEREMY DOUSE, State Forester and Director                                                                                       
Division Forestry and Fire Protection                                                                                           
Department of Natural Resources (DNR)                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Introduced SB 188 on behalf of the sponsor.                                                               
BRENT GOODRUM, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                              
Department of Natural Resources                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified by invitation on SB 188.                                                                        
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
3:31:23 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI   called  the   Senate  State   Affairs  Standing                                                               
Committee meeting  to order at 3:31  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order  were  Senators  Wielechowski,  Gray-Jackson,  Tilton,  and                                                               
Chair Kawasaki. Senator Bjorkman arrived shortly thereafter.                                                                    
^PRESENTATION:  DISASTER PREPAREDNESS  BY BRYAN  FISHER, DIRECTOR                                                               
OF ALASKA DIVISION OF HOMELAND SECURITY                                                                                         
 PRESENTATION: DISASTER PREPAREDNESS BY BRYAN FISHER, DIRECTOR OF                                                           
              ALASKA DIVISION OF HOMELAND SECURITY                                                                          
3:32:43 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   KAWASAKI   announced   the   presentation   on   Disaster                                                               
Preparedness by the Alaska Division of Homeland Security.                                                                       
3:33:03 PM                                                                                                                    
BRYAN  FISHER,  Director,  Division   of  Homeland  Security  and                                                               
Emergency   Management  (DHSEM),   Department  of   Military  and                                                               
Veterans  Affairs,  JBER,  Alaska,  provided  a  presentation  on                                                               
Disaster  Preparedness and  moved to  slide 2,  Organization, and                                                               
stated  that his  division,  Homeland Security,  is  part of  the                                                               
Alaska Department  of Military and  Veterans Affairs  and reports                                                               
to Major  General Torrance  Saxe, the  Adjutant General.  He said                                                               
his division has  64 full-time state employees,  with no military                                                               
personnel  assigned.  He said  his  division  operates the  State                                                               
Emergency  Operations  Center  and  coordinates  field  response,                                                               
managing  disaster   recovery  efforts,  and   leading  statewide                                                               
preparedness and planning activities.                                                                                           
3:34:43 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  FISHER  moved to  slide  3  and  said the  planning  section                                                               
includes   three  units:   All   Hazards  Resiliency,   Community                                                               
Planning, and Mitigation. Most  community and agency preparedness                                                               
efforts  are managed  here. The  division  helps state  agencies,                                                               
municipalities,  Tribal governments,  and other  partners develop                                                               
continuity  of operations  plans  during disasters.  He said  the                                                               
division also  provides training  and exercises to  support those                                                               
plans.  Community Planning  develops  Emergency Operations  Plans                                                               
(EOPs), Small  Community Emergency  Response Plans  (SCERPs), and                                                               
supports  Local  Emergency  Planning  Committees  (LEPCs),  which                                                               
coordinate oil, hazardous substance,  and all-hazards planning at                                                               
the community level.                                                                                                            
3:36:54 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. FISHER  moved to slide  4, SCERP:  a Document and  a Process,                                                               
and  stated  that  in  2012,  DHSEM  created  a  Small  Community                                                               
Emergency  Response  Plan  to  bridge  the  gap  between  complex                                                               
federal  and  state plans  and  local  needs.  He said  SCERP  is                                                               
designed for  communities under 2,000.  SCERP provides  a simple,                                                               
customizable,  action-oriented format  focused  on  the first  72                                                               
hours of a disaster, especially  sheltering and evacuation. DHSEM                                                               
partnered  with communities  statewide to  develop and  regularly                                                               
update about 200 of these plans.                                                                                                
3:41:28 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. FISHER moved  to slide 5, Hazard  Mitigation Plan Development                                                               
Process, and  stated that DHSEM  also develops  Hazard Mitigation                                                               
Plans, which identify community  risks and outline strategies and                                                               
projects.  He  said to  reduce  the  impact of  disasters,  these                                                               
projects  include fuels  reduction, home  elevation, and  seismic                                                               
retrofitting.  The FEMA  guided  plans  require strong  community                                                               
participation and  are primarily  federally funded;  however, key                                                               
pre-disaster  mitigation grants  are  currently paused,  limiting                                                               
available support.                                                                                                              
3:44:23 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI asked how this  state administration is evaluating                                                               
the president's  proposal to  reduce FEMA's  size and  shift more                                                               
responsibility to the states.                                                                                                   
MR.  FISHER  replied  that  proposed  FEMA  reforms  would  shift                                                               
greater  financial risk  and responsibility  to states  and local                                                               
governments. He said  an executive review is  underway, and while                                                               
final  recommendations  are  delayed,  discussions  point  toward                                                               
fewer  federal  disaster  declarations and  reduced  funding  for                                                               
response, recovery,  preparedness, and  mitigation. As  a result,                                                               
states  may need  to contribute  more resources,  though specific                                                               
details are  not yet available.  He said United  States H.R.4669,                                                               
119th Congress,  Fixing Emergency Management of  Americans (FEMA)                                                               
Act of 2025, would reassess  federal versus state and local roles                                                               
in  disaster   funding  and  response.   While  the   outcome  is                                                               
uncertain,  momentum  suggests  increased responsibility  at  the                                                               
state and local level.                                                                                                          
3:48:12 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI asked  if the  state must  assume more  emergency                                                               
response  costs, how  is  DHS preparing  and  is DHS  considering                                                               
stronger resilience  and land use  strategies in  high-risk flood                                                               
and coastal areas.                                                                                                              
3:49:11 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. FISHER  answered yes  and said  the agency  actively promotes                                                               
resilience   by   urging   communities  to   incorporate   hazard                                                               
mitigation data  into infrastructure planning and  rebuilding. He                                                               
said  in  both  new   construction  and  post-disaster  recovery,                                                               
projects are designed to strengthen  facilities and reduce future                                                               
risk, ensuring  communities are more  durable and better  able to                                                               
recover from disasters.                                                                                                         
3:51:17 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BJORKMAN asked how the  process works and how the federal                                                               
government determines the amount it  will reimburse the state for                                                               
disaster costs.                                                                                                                 
3:51:48 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. FISHER  replied that  under The  Robert T.  Stafford Disaster                                                               
Relief and Emergency  Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 5121  et seq.), a                                                               
presidential disaster  declaration provides  at least  75 percent                                                               
federal  reimbursement  for  eligible  costs.  Governor  Dunleavy                                                               
requested  an  increased federal  share  for  this disaster,  but                                                               
President Trump  denied it. As  a result, the state  is receiving                                                               
the  standard  75/25 cost  split,  consistent  with most  federal                                                               
disasters, while awaiting a decision on appeal.                                                                                 
3:54:30 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI noted  that Governor  Dunleavy stated  that                                                               
the disaster  declaration authorized  a 100 percent  federal cost                                                               
share. He asked whether that  statement was incorrect, or did the                                                               
federal cost share change after the declaration was approved.                                                                   
3:55:15 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  FISHER replied  that the  governor requested  a 100  percent                                                               
federal cost share  for 90 days; however, the  official notice in                                                               
the  Federal Register  did not  include  that approval.  Although                                                               
there   were   public   statements  indicating   assistance   was                                                               
forthcoming, the  formal documentation did not  specify a revised                                                               
cost share.  He said  Alaska did  not receive  confirmation until                                                               
around December  19th that the  request for an  increased federal                                                               
share had  been denied. The declaration  and notification process                                                               
differed  from past  practice, and  any clarification  ultimately                                                               
lies with the federal government.                                                                                               
3:56:55 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI stated  that in the October  22, 2025, press                                                               
release,  the governor  stated that  President  Trump approved  a                                                               
disaster  declaration  authorizing  a 100  percent  federal  cost                                                               
share. He asked  whether the disaster declaration  said there was                                                               
a 100 percent cost share.                                                                                                       
3:57:31 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. FISHER replied that the initial  press release was based on a                                                               
verbal notification that the president  had approved the disaster                                                               
declaration. He said written confirmation  was not received until                                                               
a  few days  later, when  the notice  was posted  in the  Federal                                                               
Register.                                                                                                                       
3:57:56 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI asked  why the  governor stated  the relief                                                               
would reach  100 percent, since  the standard federal  cost share                                                               
covers 75 percent. He inquired  who indicated a 100 percent share                                                               
and whether someone  provided that information or  if it resulted                                                               
from an error.                                                                                                                  
3:58:20 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  FISHER  replied that  he  cannot  say  and stated  that  the                                                               
governor requested a  100 percent cost share  and received verbal                                                               
approval of the disaster declaration.  However, on December 19th,                                                               
the requested  cost share  adjustment was  denied, and  the state                                                               
has appealed that decision.                                                                                                     
3:58:49 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI  asked  whether those  seeking  federal  aid  can                                                               
access assistance  under the current  structure, or  whether some                                                               
individuals still await payments.                                                                                               
MR.  FISHER   answered  no  and  all   authorized  assistance  is                                                               
currently available.  Under federal law, individuals  may receive                                                               
up to $44,800  for essential personal property  and an additional                                                               
$44,800  for housing  repair  or replacement.  He  said FEMA  has                                                               
already issued hundreds of grants,  totaling about $32 million to                                                               
Alaskans, and funds are being distributed as expected.                                                                          
4:00:24 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  asked whether  the President of  the United                                                               
States told  Governor Dunleavy the  federal cost  share requested                                                               
was 100 percent  or was it someone else and  is there any written                                                               
confirmation of that.                                                                                                           
4:00:49 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  FISHER  replied that  the  State  of Alaska  didn't  receive                                                               
written information  from the  White House  about the  cost share                                                               
until December 19th.                                                                                                            
4:01:04 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI  noted that there  were several  hundred displaced                                                               
families  affected  by Typhoon  Halong  that  fully relocated  to                                                               
communities like  Anchorage or Fairbanks.  He asked  whether some                                                               
families are still in temporary  housing, are any residents still                                                               
in  the  impacted area,  and  how  have displaced  students  been                                                               
transitioned into schools.                                                                                                      
4:01:57 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. FISHER  replied that after  the storm, about  2,000 residents                                                               
were  evacuated, many  to  Bethel and  Anchorage.  More than  200                                                               
homes were  destroyed, and most  displaced residents  remain away                                                               
from home. About  80 households (around 400 people)  are still in                                                               
Anchorage  hotels and  are  being  transitioned into  FEMA-funded                                                               
long-term  rentals  for  up  to  18  months  while  recovery  and                                                               
rebuilding continue.                                                                                                            
4:03:58 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  FISHER   moved  to  slide  6,   Mitigation  Projects-Funding                                                               
Sources, and  stated that the  agency administers  several hazard                                                               
mitigation programs.  The BRIC program is  temporarily suspended,                                                               
and  both pre-  and post-disaster  mitigation programs  are under                                                               
federal review,  with recent requests,  including for  the Halong                                                               
disaster,   denied   nationwide.    He   said   despite   funding                                                               
uncertainty,  the  state  continues  updating  hazard  mitigation                                                               
plans  and   pursuing  available  FEMA  programs   to  strengthen                                                               
infrastructure   and  housing   during   recovery,  while   other                                                               
mitigation funds exist through separate federal agencies.                                                                       
4:06:29 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. FISHER  moved to slide  7, Preparedness, and stated  that the                                                               
preparedness  team  manages  all  FEMA  training  in  the  state,                                                               
including incident  command, mitigation, and  emergency planning,                                                               
and  coordinates attendance  at national  training centers.  They                                                               
conduct local training, lead and  support disaster exercises, and                                                               
provide   community    outreach   on   individual    and   family                                                               
preparedness, including  public events and  earthquake simulation                                                               
demonstrations.                                                                                                                 
4:09:41 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease.                                                                                                                        
^PRESENTATION:  2025 FIRE  SUPPRESSION UPDATE  BY NORM  MCDONALD,                                                               
DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF FORESTRY AND FIRE PROTECTION                                                                                 
  PRESENTATION: 2025 FIRE SUPPRESSION UPDATE BY NORM MCDONALD,                                                              
        DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF FORESTRY AND FIRE PROTECTION                                                                     
4:10:24 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI   reconvened  the   meeting  and   announced  the                                                               
presentation on the 2025 Fire Suppression update.                                                                               
4:10:58 PM                                                                                                                    
NORM  MCDONALD,  Deputy Director,  Division  of  Forestry &  Fire                                                               
Protection,  Department of  Natural  Resources (DNR),  Anchorage,                                                               
Alaska,  provided a  presentation  on the  2025 Fire  Suppression                                                               
update  and  moved  to  slide  2. He  stated  that  the  division                                                               
structures Alaska's wildland fire  program around an increasingly                                                               
complex and  intensifying global  fire environment.  With record-                                                               
breaking  seasons   in  California,   the  East   Coast,  Canada,                                                               
Australia, and  Maui, Alaska faces  similar risks. He  said there                                                               
is  no  single  solution  to  this  growing  challenge.  He  said                                                               
Alaska's  wildland  fire  program   is  built  on  four  pillars:                                                               
preparedness (a  trained workforce), prevention (reducing  the 60                                                               
percent  of  fires  that  are  human-caused),  mitigation  (fuels                                                               
reduction  and resilient  communities), and  suppression (placing                                                               
the right resources  at the right time). All  funding and efforts                                                               
align with these priorities.                                                                                                    
4:12:59 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MCDONALD  moved to  slide  3,  Interagency Cooperation,  and                                                               
referenced the map on the left  side of the slide. He stated that                                                               
Alaska  uses  a unique  interagency  fire  protection model.  The                                                               
state primarily protects state,  private, and municipal lands but                                                               
also  covers some  federal lands  through agreements.  In return,                                                               
the Alaska Fire  Service protects federal lands  and assists with                                                               
state  lands on  a reimbursable  basis. The  U.S. Forest  Service                                                               
manages the Tongass and Chugach National Forests.                                                                               
4:13:50 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MCDONALD   moved  to  slide   4,  Alaska   Interagency  Fire                                                               
Management Plan,  and stated  that Alaska  is huge  and resources                                                               
are limited. He said fires  are prioritized into four categories:                                                               
Critical (life and community protection),  Full (cabins and high-                                                               
value   resources),  Limited   (monitored,  natural   role),  and                                                               
Modified  (Full until  July 10,  then  Limited). These  statewide                                                               
priorities  guide  initial  attack   decisions  and  are  updated                                                               
annually by all agencies.                                                                                                       
4:14:48 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MCDONALD  moved to slide  5, Emerging Challenges,  and stated                                                               
that  wildfire activity  in Alaska  has increased  significantly.                                                               
Comparing  19842003  to  20042023  shows  more fires  and greater                                                               
acreage  burned,  with  two-million-acre  seasons  becoming  more                                                               
frequent.  The growing  trend  presents  ongoing challenges  that                                                               
agencies are working to address.                                                                                                
4:15:45 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MCDONALD  moved to slide  6, Alaska's Growing  Wildland Urban                                                               
Interface, and  stated that wildfire  risk is increasing  as more                                                               
people move into  fire-prone areas. About 75  percent of Alaskans                                                               
live in  urban areas, and  85 percent of  new homes are  built in                                                               
the  wildland-urban  interface,   compounding  the  challenge  of                                                               
protecting communities amid rising fire activity.                                                                               
4:16:20 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MCDONALD moved  to slide  7, Resilient  Landscapes and  Fire                                                               
Adapted  Communities, and  stated  that fuel  breaks have  proven                                                               
critical  to community  protection.  In 2025  and prior  seasons,                                                               
projects  like the  seven-mile Sunset  fuel break  in the  Mat-Su                                                               
Valley,  the Murphy  Dome  break in  Fairbanks,  and the  13-mile                                                               
Funny River  break helped stop  fires and  protect neighborhoods.                                                               
He said the  fuel breaks safeguarded lives and  an estimated $1.7                                                               
billion  in  property.  Expanding   fuel  breaks  remains  a  key                                                               
mitigation priority.                                                                                                            
4:18:07 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MCDONALD moved  to  slide 8,  Agreements  and Compacts,  and                                                               
stated that preparedness means having  the right resources at the                                                               
right time.  In addition to  training in-state  personnel, Alaska                                                               
imports   support   through  three   mechanisms:   state-to-state                                                               
agreements, the  Northwest Compact (including western  states and                                                               
Canadian provinces),  and the Stafford Act  agreement for federal                                                               
and non-compact resources.                                                                                                      
4:19:09 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MCDONALD moved to slide  9, Partner Agencies, and stated that                                                               
the  division  coordinates  closely   with  the  State  emergency                                                               
operations   center   (EOC),   National  Guard,   Department   of                                                               
Transportation (DOT),  and State  Troopers for fire  and disaster                                                               
response. The National Guard provides  Black Hawk helicopters and                                                               
logistical support, while DOT and  public safety assist with road                                                               
closures, evacuations, and traffic control.                                                                                     
4:20:00 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MCDONALD  moved to  slides 10-11,  Seasonal Recap,  and began                                                               
discussion of Alaska's  2025 Fire Potential Outlook.  He said the                                                               
2025 season  was forecasted to  start early  due to low  snow and                                                               
dry  conditions,  prompting  an early  fire  season  declaration.                                                               
However,  a cool,  wet spring  delayed activity,  with record-low                                                               
fires through  mid-June. Conditions  shifted after June  15, when                                                               
55,000 lightning strikes ignited 173  fires, followed by red flag                                                               
conditions that  drove extreme  fire growth  in the  Interior. He                                                               
said  the  season resulted  in  400  evacuations, 45  homes  lost                                                               
(primarily near  Healy), infrastructure damage, and  176 miles of                                                               
fire line constructedhighlighting  the high  cost and workload of                                                               
emergency response compared to proactive mitigation.                                                                            
4:23:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. FISHER moved to slide 12  and stated that the 2025 season had                                                               
467 fires  burning about  one million  acres, around  the 20-year                                                               
average,  but much  of it  occurred near  communities and  roads,                                                               
creating  significant  challenges   despite  being  below  record                                                               
levels.                                                                                                                         
4:24:17 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MCDONALD moved to slide 13,  Bear Creek Fire, and stated that                                                               
the Bear Creek Fire destroyed  44 homes, closed the Parks Highway                                                               
for  two  weeks, disrupted  travel,  tourism,  and commerce,  and                                                               
burned nearly 40,000 acres despite  aggressive initial attack and                                                               
red flag conditions.                                                                                                            
4:25:19 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MCDONALD moved  to slide 14, Nenana Ridge Fire,  and said the                                                               
fire  grew rapidly  during a  red flag  event. Initial  resources                                                               
focused   on  higher-priority   fires,  causing   traffic  delays                                                               
compounded  by highway  construction.  Road restrictions  ensured                                                               
the safety of firefighters and the public.                                                                                      
4:26:59 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MCDONALD  moved to slide  15, Himalaya Fire, and  stated that                                                               
this  fire  north  of  Fairbanks  in a  frequent  fire  area.  It                                                               
threatened  primary  residences.  He  said  pre-established  fuel                                                               
breaks  helped  protect  the  area,  including  the  Trans-Alaska                                                               
Pipeline and highways, though some traffic delays occurred.                                                                     
4:27:43 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MCDONALD  moved to  slide  16,  Nelchina Glacier  Fire,  and                                                               
stated that  the Nelchina Glacier  Fire, a  lightning-caused fire                                                               
near  Glen Highway,  was managed  by  prioritizing resources.  He                                                               
said the  firefighters used indirect  attacks and  National Guard                                                               
Black  Hawks, creating  fuel  breaks  and protecting  communities                                                               
along the highway.                                                                                                              
4:29:04 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MCDONALD  moved to slide  17, Resources Mobilized  to Alaska,                                                               
and  stated   that  by  season's   end,  Alaska   imported  3,500                                                               
firefighters,  including   43  crews,  20  aircraft,   and  2,600                                                               
overhead personnel,  from about  40 states and  federal agencies.                                                               
This underscores  the importance of interstate  and international                                                               
agreements to rapidly mobilize resources during peak demand.                                                                    
4:29:49 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MCDONALD moved  to slide 18, All-Hazard  Response, and stated                                                               
that in addition  to fire response, the  division supported three                                                               
all-hazard  incidents,   including  the  typhoon.  He   said  the                                                               
division deployed 162 firefighters  to Bethel for evacuations and                                                               
recovery, mobilized boats, heavy  equipment, aircraft, and shower                                                               
units,  and coordinated  with  the EOC  and  National Guard.  The                                                               
typhoon  was   one  of  the  largest   humanitarian  efforts  the                                                               
division's personnel had supported.                                                                                             
4:31:32 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI asked  for an update on the Nenana  Ridge Fire and                                                               
the report of vandalized vehicles.                                                                                              
4:31:45 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MCDONALD replied  that it  was  the Himalyan  Fire. He  said                                                               
there were  engines vandalized on  state park land and  the state                                                               
troopers never found out who committed the vandalism.                                                                           
CHAIR  KAWASAKI  noted  that the  firefighters  bring  their  own                                                               
personal  vehicles to  the fires  and park  them for  weeks at  a                                                               
time.                                                                                                                           
4:32:24 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI  asked what criteria  guide the decision to  let a                                                               
fire  burn, and  what is  the rationale  behind determining  that                                                               
some fires are lower priority and allowed to continue burning.                                                                  
4:32:52 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MCDONALD  replied  that  jurisdictional  land  managers  and                                                               
protection agencies jointly decide  fire response based on values                                                               
at risk,  threats, and conditions.  While some fires  are managed                                                               
for   ecological  benefit,   even  "limited"   fires  are   fully                                                               
suppressed if conditions change or risks increase.                                                                              
4:34:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI noted  that last  session, the  legislature                                                               
passed   a    resolution   raising   concerns    about   wildfire                                                               
preparedness, including  early warning and response.  Given those                                                               
concerns and  below-normal snowpack, he asked  for explanation on                                                               
the governor's decision to veto  $27 million for fire suppression                                                               
funding.                                                                                                                        
4:35:02 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MCDONALD replied that fire  suppression is costly, especially                                                               
in tight  budget years. While he  can't speak to the  $27 million                                                               
veto,  when funding  is needed,  the division  uses an  emergency                                                               
declaration  process to  ensure there  are resources  to continue                                                               
protecting lives, property, and infrastructure.                                                                                 
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  asked what  the previous year's  budget was                                                               
for fighting fires and fire suppression.                                                                                        
MR. MCDONALD replied  that the fire fund for this  fiscal year is                                                               
still being finalized. A supplemental  request has been submitted                                                               
to ensure funding is ready for  the start of the fire season. The                                                               
budget is typically  based on the five- or  ten-year average. The                                                               
ten-year average is about $63 million.                                                                                          
4:36:43 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI referenced  the $27  million cut  and asked                                                               
whether  the division  had sufficient  funds or  drew from  other                                                               
reserves.                                                                                                                       
4:36:53 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MCDONALD replied  that the  division had  enough reserve  to                                                               
start the  fire season.  He said  when the  reserves got  low the                                                               
division submitted an emergency  declaration. It was approved and                                                               
helped the division get through the rest of the fire season.                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked how much they were over budget.                                                                      
MR. MCDONALD replied that he would follow up with the committee.                                                                
4:37:50 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR   WIELECHOWSKI  asked   whether  the   Forestry  Division                                                               
recommended that the Governor not veto the $27 million.                                                                         
MR. MCDONALD  replied that  the division  did not  recommend that                                                               
the Governor  veto. He further  explained that the  Division felt                                                               
confident it  was in a good  position to get through  the season,                                                               
especially  since a  declaration  of emergency  was available  if                                                               
needed.                                                                                                                         
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI asked  whether the  Governor is  asking for                                                               
$63 million in the supplemental budget.                                                                                         
4:38:39 PM                                                                                                                    
BRENT  GOODRUM,   Deputy  Commissioner,  Department   of  Natural                                                               
Resources,  Anchorage, Alaska,  answered questions  regarding the                                                               
fire  suppression   update.  He   stated  his  belief   that  the                                                               
supplemental  budget requests  were an  additional $2  million in                                                               
statutory   designated   program   receipts   and   $500,000   in                                                               
interagency receipts for the fire fund.                                                                                         
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI asked  what the  division is  requesting in                                                               
the supplemental  for fire  suppression, and  does it  cover last                                                               
year's costs.                                                                                                                   
MR.  GOODRUM   replied  that  the  supplemental   identifies  $55                                                               
million, which includes  a $30 million declaration  followed by a                                                               
$25  million  declaration.  Both  amounts  are  included  in  the                                                               
document.                                                                                                                       
4:39:29 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI asked  how quickly  the division  needs the                                                               
money and would  it benefit the division to get  the money sooner                                                               
rather than later.                                                                                                              
4:39:41 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MCDONALD replied  that by statute fire season  begins April 1                                                               
and costs start accruing in April  and May. By that time, startup                                                               
funding is in place for  fire suppression, preparedness, and pre-                                                               
positioning resources.                                                                                                          
4:40:11 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  asked if Mr.  McDonald understands  that at                                                               
this   point  the   Legislature  will   need  to   go  into   the                                                               
Constitutional Budget Reserve to access the funds.                                                                              
MR. MCDONALD  answered that's his  understanding. He  stated that                                                               
the fire fund was updated 2  years ago and now receives recovered                                                               
funds from  sources like FEMA and  federal protection agreements.                                                               
This year  is the first  time those reimbursements return  to the                                                               
fund, reducing the state's budget need.                                                                                         
4:40:55 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked  the division if it  is advocating for                                                               
the legislature to  pass an early budget and take  money from the                                                               
Constitutional Budget  Reserve to  prepare for the  upcoming fire                                                               
season.                                                                                                                         
4:41:09 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GOODRUM  replied that the  division will let  the Legislature                                                               
decide the best way to help.                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI asked  whether the  division was  aware the                                                               
Legislature  will need  the Governor's  help to  secure a  three-                                                               
quarter vote or does the division prefer a hands-off approach.                                                                  
4:41:27 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GOODRUM answered that the Division understands.                                                                             
4:41:37 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON asked  how decisions are made to  let a fire                                                               
burn, and on average, how long does it take for a fire to die.                                                                  
4:41:55 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MCDONALD  replied that fire  plans are set before  the season                                                               
by land and suppression agencies.,  The agencies decidede whether                                                               
fire  can  burn  naturally.  He  said when  a  fire  starts,  the                                                               
agencies  reassess to  either  follow the  plan  or suppress  it,                                                               
prioritizing life  safety, homes,  then natural  and recreational                                                               
resources.                                                                                                                      
4:43:04 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON asked  how long it takes for a  fire to burn                                                               
out.                                                                                                                            
4:43:11 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MCDONALD  replied that fire  duration varies:  most naturally                                                               
die out  by late July  with rain,  but dry conditions  can extend                                                               
burning into fall  or year-round. He said  snow and precipitation                                                               
ultimately   extinguish  them,   while  fires   are  continuously                                                               
monitored.                                                                                                                      
4:44:44 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BJORKMAN  referenced the Funny  River fire on slide  7 of                                                               
the presentation. He  asked if there is a state  program to build                                                               
out  fuel breaks  each  winter and  does the  state  need a  more                                                               
robust plan to better protect communities.                                                                                      
4:45:58 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MCDONALD answered  yes and  stated that  over the  past five                                                               
years,  the  division has  developed  a  fuels program  to  build                                                               
strategic  fuel  breaks around  communities.  There  are 16  fuel                                                               
breaks  underway  and  20  more   in  planning.  The  program  is                                                               
considered critical as  fire seasons increase, and  the state has                                                               
invested  over  $17  million and  continues  pursuing  state  and                                                               
federal  funding to  expand these  projects  and reduce  wildfire                                                               
risk to communities.                                                                                                            
4:47:15 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BJORKMAN  asked  what  the  All-Hands  All-Lands  (AHAL)                                                               
process looks like, and how people can engage in it.                                                                            
MR. MCDONALD answered that All-Hands  All-Lands is an opportunity                                                               
for the  land managers and  management agencies to  work together                                                               
to come up with fire problem solutions.                                                                                         
4:49:40 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BJORKMAN asked  about  concerns  over restructuring  the                                                               
state's wildland  fire dispatch system, specifically  the removal                                                               
of  dispatchers   from  local   communities  like   Soldotna.  He                                                               
requested an update on the  transition, including how drills went                                                               
and how operations are functioning  now that the restructuring is                                                               
largely complete.                                                                                                               
4:50:15 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MCDONALD replied that the  dispatch restructuring was largely                                                               
successful. Dispatch  operations moved from Kenai  to Palmer, and                                                               
after-action  reviews  helped  improve  the  process  during  the                                                               
season. Despite  some challenges and public  preference for local                                                               
dispatchers,  centralized dispatch  has  worked  well and  aligns                                                               
with the model used across other states.                                                                                        
4:51:43 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BJORKMAN stated that during  discussions about creating a                                                               
Department  of Agriculture,  some  positions  in your  department                                                               
were  proposed for  transfer. He  asked  whether those  positions                                                               
remain vacant, and  if so, how those funds are  being used in the                                                               
current budget process.                                                                                                         
4:52:09 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GOODRUM replied  that the two vacant  wildland fire positions                                                               
were set aside during discussions  about creating a Department of                                                               
Agriculture. They  remain unfilled, with no  funds spent, pending                                                               
a court or legislative decision.                                                                                                
               SB 188-TANANA VALLEY STATE FOREST                                                                            
4:53:10 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI   reconvened  the   meeting  and   announced  the                                                               
consideration  of  SENATE BILL  NO.  188  "An Act  expanding  the                                                               
Tanana  Valley  State  Forest; and  providing  for  an  effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
4:53:43 PM                                                                                                                    
JEREMY  DOUSE,  State  Forester  and  Director,  Alaska  Division                                                               
Forestry  and Fire  Protection, Department  of Natural  Resources                                                               
(DNR),  Fairbanks, Alaska,  introduced SB  188 on  behalf of  the                                                               
sponsor  and  stated that  the  bill  proposes expansion  of  the                                                               
Tanana Valley State Forest (TVSF).                                                                                              
4:54:01 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  DOUSE moved  to slide  2,  Tanana Valley  State Forest,  and                                                               
stated  that  state forests  are  designated  by the  legislature                                                               
under  AS 41.17.200  for timber  management while  allowing other                                                               
beneficial  uses.  He  said  the   Tanana  Valley  State  Forest,                                                               
established  in  1983, is  one  of  three  state forests  and  is                                                               
managed under  AS 41.17.  TVSF has  a wildlife  habitat objective                                                               
under   AS   41.17.400,   requiring  coordination   with   Alaska                                                               
Department of  Fish and  Game (ADF&G)  to protect  habitat during                                                               
timber  management. He  said that  a Citizens  Advisory Committee                                                               
helps guide  management, and the forest  supports activities such                                                               
as  mining, material  sites, recreation,  hunting, trapping,  and                                                               
snowmachining.                                                                                                                  
4:55:35 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. DOUSE moved to slide  3, Expanding Tanana Valley State Forest                                                               
(TVSF),  and stated  that  SB 188  proposes  expanding the  state                                                               
forest  by about  600,000  acres. The  map  shows existing  state                                                               
forests in  green and the  proposed additions in yellow.  He said                                                               
some  of   these  areas  are  already   being  actively  managed,                                                               
including  current timber  sales and  infrastructure development.                                                               
All proposed  lands are designated  for forestry in the  DNR area                                                               
plan, which also recommends adding them to the state forest.                                                                    
4:56:37 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. DOUSE  moved to slide 4,  Why Increase TVSF, and  stated that                                                               
the  division  is  actively  managing  some  of  these  areas  by                                                               
building  roads,  planting,   and  developing  infrastructure  to                                                               
support future timber crops. These  productive sites ensure long-                                                               
term timber availability  and signal to the  industry that future                                                               
timber sale opportunities exist for business growth.                                                                            
4:57:26 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. DOUSE moved  to slide 5, State Forest  Expansion Process, and                                                               
stated that  foresters identified  these areas as  productive for                                                               
forestry  using remote  sensing and  soil data.  During DNR  area                                                               
plan updates, the division recommends  designating such sites for                                                               
forestry, as  done in  the Eastern  Tanana and  Yukon-Tanana area                                                               
plans. Through the area plan  process, the division can recommend                                                               
adding lands to the State  Foresttypically  adjacent or connected                                                               
areas  for  best land  use.  After  a public  process,  including                                                               
notices and  hearings in Tanana  Valley communities,  feedback is                                                               
considered. He  said if supported, the  administration prepares a                                                               
legislative  proposal with  public testimony,  preliminary forest                                                               
inventory  (from  2014),  and  a   Forest  Management  Plan.  Any                                                               
additions  would require  only  a focused  update  to the  nearly                                                               
completed plan.                                                                                                                 
5:00:25 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  DOUSE moved  to slide  6, Plan  Recommendations, and  stated                                                               
that the areas on the map  were recommended in the Eastern Tanana                                                               
and  Yukon-Tanana  area  plans,  as  well  as  the  State  Forest                                                               
Management Plan, each through separate public processes.                                                                        
5:00:47 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  DOUSE moved  to slide  7,  Public Comment,  and stated  that                                                               
public meetings  were held  May 528   in Fairbanks,  Antioch, and                                                               
Delta  Junction,  plus two  virtual  sessions.  He said  overall,                                                               
there was  general support for  expanding the state  forest, with                                                               
most questions focused on technical  issues like local vs. export                                                               
markets, carbon projects, and land management processes.                                                                        
5:01:56 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. DOUSE  moved to slide 8,  Non-Timber use of TVSF,  and stated                                                               
that  non-timber  uses, like  recreation,  in  the Tanana  Valley                                                               
State Forest  are common. He  said various  organizations provide                                                               
programs  in   the  state  forest,  and   TVSF  remains  publicly                                                               
accessible.                                                                                                                     
5:02:55 PM                                                                                                                    
BRENT  GOODRUM,   Deputy  Commissioner,  Department   of  Natural                                                               
Resources, Anchorage,  Alaska, testified by invitation  on SB 188                                                               
and stated  that he is in  favor of increased use  of the forests                                                               
and management of  the resources. He said that  the state forests                                                               
provide access,  recreational opportunities, and  easier resource                                                               
care. Adding these lands to the state forest ensures future                                                                     
investment and better management.                                                                                               
5:03:50 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI held SB 188 in committee.                                                                                        
5:04:28 PM                                                                                                                    
There being no further business to come before the committee,                                                                   
Chair Kawasaki adjourned the Senate State Affairs Standing                                                                      
Committee meeting at 5:04 p.m.                                                                                                  

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 188 Transmittal Letter.pdf SSTA 2/3/2026 3:30:00 PM
SB 188
SB 188 version A.PDF SSTA 2/3/2026 3:30:00 PM
SB 188
SB 188 Sectional Analysis version A.pdf SSTA 2/3/2026 3:30:00 PM
SB 188
SB 188 Map-Tanana Valley State Forest 5-5-25.pdf SSTA 2/3/2026 3:30:00 PM
SB 188
USAG Alaska comment on Senate Bill 188 29SEP2025.pdf SSTA 2/3/2026 3:30:00 PM
USAG Comment SB 188
2.3.26 2025 DFFP Fire Suppression Update.pdf SSTA 2/3/2026 3:30:00 PM
Fire Suppression
020326 (S) STA DMVA DHSEM Preparedness Presentation.pdf SSTA 2/3/2026 3:30:00 PM
Disaster Preparedness
2.3.26 SB 188 Presentation.pdf SSTA 2/3/2026 3:30:00 PM
SB 188
support for SB 188.pdf SSTA 2/3/2026 3:30:00 PM
SB 188