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04/02/2024 03:30 PM Senate STATE AFFAIRS

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03:49:51 PM Start
03:50:21 PM Confirmation Hearing(s)
04:09:07 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Consideration of Governor’s Appointees: TELECONFERENCED
Personnel Board - Donald Handeland
<Above Item Rescheduled to 4/4/24>
Consideration of Governor’s Appointees: Alaska
Police Standards Council -
Ron Dupee
Dusty Dumont
Jeff Brown
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            SENATE STATE AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                         April 2, 2024                                                                                          
                           3:49 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Scott Kawasaki, Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Matt Claman, Vice Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Jesse Bjorkman                                                                                                          
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
Senator Kelly Merrick                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Alaska Police Standards Council                                                                                               
Jeff Brown - Juneau                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ron Dupee - Juneau                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Dusty Dumont - Juneau                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION ADVANCED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
JEFF BROWN, Appointee                                                                                                           
Alaska Police Standards Council (APSC)                                                                                          
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified as the governor's appointee to the                                                              
Alaska Police Standards Council (APSC).                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
RON DUPEE, Appointee                                                                                                            
Alaska Police Standards Council (APSC).                                                                                         
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified as  the governor's appointee to the                                                             
Police Standards Council (APSC).                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DUSTY DUMONT, Appointee                                                                                                         
Alaska Police Standards Council (APSC).                                                                                         
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified as  the governor's appointee to the                                                             
Police Standards Council (APSC).                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:49:51 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  SCOTT KAWASAKI  called the  Senate State  Affairs Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 3:49  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order were Senators Claman,  Bjorkman, Wielechowski, Merrick, and                                                               
Chair Kawasaki.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
^CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)                                                                                                        
                    CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):                                                                                
                ALSAKA POLICE STANDARDS COUNCIL                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
3:50:21 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI announced  the  consideration  of the  governor's                                                               
appointee  Chief  Jeff  Brown  to  the  Alaska  Police  Standards                                                               
Council (APSC).                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:51:11 PM                                                                                                                    
JEFF BROWN,  Appointee, Alaska  Police Standards  Council (APSC),                                                               
Juneau, Alaska, provided a brief  work history. He stated that if                                                               
confirmed, this  would be  his second term  on the  Alaska Police                                                               
Standards  Council  (APSC).  He expressed  appreciation  for  the                                                               
review  of  his  nomination  and  highlighted  his  enjoyment  in                                                               
serving  on the  council.  With  24 years  of  experience in  law                                                               
enforcement, including  the last 18  years in Alaska, he  said he                                                               
has held various positions with  both the North Slope Borough and                                                               
the Alaska Department  of Public Safety (DPS). In  the latter, he                                                               
served   in  the   professional   standards  unit   as  both   an                                                               
investigator and  later a  supervisor. Since  early 2018,  he has                                                               
been serving as Chief of Police for the North Slope Borough.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:52:12 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI  asked whether  he  was  part  of a  recent  APSC                                                               
discussion regarding allowing  correctional officers, starting at                                                               
age  18, to  serve in  their roles.  He inquired  whether he  was                                                               
involved  in  that  discussion and  whether  it  extended  beyond                                                               
correctional officers.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:52:37 PM                                                                                                                    
CHIEF  BROWN   acknowledged  that   a  representative   from  the                                                               
Department  of  Corrections  (DOC)   was  also  involved  in  the                                                               
discussion.  The   proposal  to   reduce  the  minimum   age  for                                                               
correctional officers  from 21 to 18  came at the request  of the                                                               
Department  of Corrections  to aid  in recruitment  and retention                                                               
for hard-to-fill  positions. Public testimony was  solicited, and                                                               
comments were received,  but no action has been  taken as further                                                               
discussions  are needed.  He  noted  concerns regarding  maturity                                                               
levels   of   younger   individuals   and   suggested   exploring                                                               
alternative approaches.  He invited any further  questions on the                                                               
topic or his personal views.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:53:57 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN   requested  his  personal  perspective   on  the                                                               
proposal.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:54:04 PM                                                                                                                    
CHIEF  BROWN  replied  that  the   North  Slope  Borough  runs  a                                                               
municipal  corrections facility  where officers  can be  hired at                                                               
age 19.  He emphasized that  the effectiveness of  hiring younger                                                               
individuals  depends on  the  department's  hiring standards  and                                                               
screening  processes.  As  long as  departments  maintain  robust                                                               
screening practices,  he believes  it can  be beneficial  to open                                                               
these  positions   to  younger  applicants.  He   mentioned  that                                                               
dispatch  positions are  open  to  18-year-olds, which  initially                                                               
came with some concerns but  dealing with the learning curves has                                                               
been  manageable. As  a profession,  law  enforcement must  adapt                                                               
with  the   times,  and   offering  younger   individuals  career                                                               
opportunities can help them grow  and potentially retire from the                                                               
field.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:55:18 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI opened  public testimony  on the  confirmation of                                                               
Chief Brown; hearing none, he closed public testimony.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:55:45 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI requested  comments on two bills  currently in the                                                               
legislature. One involves  creating a use of  force registry, and                                                               
the other pertains to banning the  use of chokeholds at the state                                                               
and municipal levels for law  enforcement officers. He noted that                                                               
as a  member of APSC,  Mr. Brown plays  a role in  developing and                                                               
revising law enforcement  training and asked for  his insights on                                                               
these legislative efforts.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:56:28 PM                                                                                                                    
CHIEF  BROWN  first addressed  the  proposal  to ban  chokeholds,                                                               
explaining that most law enforcement  in Alaska already considers                                                               
chokeholds,  including  carotid   artery  restraints,  as  deadly                                                               
force.  Alaska state  statute defines  the  restriction of  blood                                                               
flow to the brain or airflow  as a chokehold, which is classified                                                               
as deadly force.  Therefore, officers must meet  the deadly force                                                               
criteria before using such methods.  He clarified that chokeholds                                                               
cannot be used as restraint  holds. Regarding the proposed use of                                                               
force registry,  he mentioned that  he was not familiar  with the                                                               
specifics of the bill and  was unable to provide further comments                                                               
on that topic.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:57:58 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI expressed  appreciation  for his  service to  the                                                               
North Slope Borough and his  willingness to serve another term on                                                               
APSC.  He acknowledged  the time  commitment involved,  including                                                               
time away from family and other duties.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:58:29 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI announced  the  consideration  of the  governor's                                                               
appointee Chief Ron Dupee to  the Alaska Police Standards Council                                                               
(APSC).                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:58:49 PM                                                                                                                    
RON  DUPEE, Appointee,  Alaska Police  Standards Council  (APSC),                                                               
Juneau, Alaska, provided a brief  work history. He stated that he                                                               
has served  as Chief of  the Fairbanks Police Department  for the                                                               
past three  years but has been  with the department for  21 years                                                               
in total.  With over 25  years of experience in  law enforcement,                                                               
he noted  he has  been a  member of APSC  for about  eight months                                                               
after  taking  over   for  the  former  Juneau   Chief  upon  his                                                               
retirement.  He expressed  enthusiasm  about  the opportunity  to                                                               
continue serving on the council if confirmed.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:59:36 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI  inquired  about  a  regulation  change  allowing                                                               
correctional officers  to be  hired at age  18 and  above, noting                                                               
that the  current law requires candidates  to be at least  21. He                                                               
asked  for his  thoughts on  this proposal,  mentioning that  the                                                               
idea originated  from APSC. He  expressed uncertainty  on whether                                                               
he was a member at the time.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:00:05 PM                                                                                                                    
CHIEF DUPEE clarified  that he did participate  in the discussion                                                               
regarding the  age requirement  for correctional  officers, which                                                               
took  place  during  an emergency  meeting  outside  the  regular                                                               
schedule.  He echoed  Chief Brown's  sentiments, stating  that as                                                               
long  as hiring  practices are  selective and  rigorous, lowering                                                               
the  age  limit  could  be  beneficial  for  DOC  and  other  law                                                               
enforcement  agencies. He  noted that  many corrections  officers                                                               
transition  into  law  enforcement roles  throughout  the  state,                                                               
suggesting  that  there  is   potential  for  positive  outcomes.                                                               
However, he  acknowledged that further  work and  discussions are                                                               
needed on the topic.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:01:04 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI opened  public testimony  on  the appointment  of                                                               
Chief Dupee; finding none, he closed public testimony.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:01:39 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI expressed appreciation  for Chief Dupee's openness                                                               
and  availability  to his  office  regarding  issues in  downtown                                                               
Fairbanks. He  mentioned looking forward to  the upcoming weekend                                                               
event for the demolition of  the Polaris Hotel, remarking that it                                                               
is "about time."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:02:11 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI announced  the  consideration  of the  governor's                                                               
appointee  Dusty Dumont  to the  Alaska Police  Standards Council                                                               
(APSC).                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:02:31 PM                                                                                                                    
DUSTY DUMONT, Appointee, Alaska  Police Standards Council (APSC),                                                               
Juneau, Alaska,  provided a brief  educational and  work history.                                                               
She  introduced  herself  as  the Director  of  the  Division  of                                                               
Pretrial, Probation,  and Parole (DP3)  with DOC, having  over 21                                                               
years  of experience  in  the  department and  over  26 years  in                                                               
corrections  overall.   She  highlighted  her  background   as  a                                                               
probation officer, a  role she finds fulfilling.  Born and raised                                                               
in Juneau,  she moved to  Ohio for  college, where he  majored in                                                               
basketball and track while earning  a degree in criminal justice.                                                               
After  graduation,   she  worked  at  a   state  penitentiary  in                                                               
Washington  for  approximately  five years  before  returning  to                                                               
Juneau to raise her two children  for five years. She resumed his                                                               
career in  2002 as a field  probation officer and has  since held                                                               
various  positions   within  the  system,  gaining   a  statewide                                                               
perspective on  corrections and  law enforcement.  She supervises                                                               
offices from  Utqiagvik to Ketchikan  and expressed  that joining                                                               
APSC  is  an  honor  she   takes  seriously,  aligning  with  the                                                               
council's  mission of  accountability, professionalism,  service,                                                               
and character.  She stated that  she believes her  experience and                                                               
personality will be a good fit for the council.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:04:52 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN asked for her  perspective on the legislation that                                                               
proposes to reduce the age  requirement for correctional officers                                                               
from 21 to 18 considering her position in DOC.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:05:02 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  DUMONT  acknowledged the  insights  shared  by the  previous                                                               
Chiefs regarding  the age requirement for  correctional officers.                                                               
She   expressed   that   maturity  varies   significantly   among                                                               
individuals,  citing examples  of  very  mature 18-year-olds  and                                                               
immature 39-year-olds. She emphasized that  age should not be the                                                               
primary consideration;  instead, the  focus should be  on meeting                                                               
the  basic  requirements  for  the role,  as  well  as  providing                                                               
adequate training  and ongoing support  to help  individuals work                                                               
effectively  with  the   correctional  population  and  establish                                                               
appropriate boundaries.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:05:48 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI opened public testimony  on the appointment of Ms.                                                               
Dumont; finding none, he closed public testimony.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:06:04 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI asked  for her  comments on  two bills  currently                                                               
under consideration  by the committee,  which relate to a  ban on                                                               
chokeholds and the  establishment of a use of  force registry. He                                                               
noted  that  APSC  is  involved   in  compliance  with  laws  and                                                               
regulations and  in revising them, emphasizing  the importance of                                                               
her insights on these matters.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:06:45 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. DUMONT  stated that she  is unfamiliar with the  specifics of                                                               
the  chokehold  ban  proposal.   However,  she  referenced  Chief                                                               
Brown's  earlier  comments  on   the  topic,  agreeing  with  his                                                               
assessment that the use of a  chokehold must be considered in the                                                               
context of deadly force. She  affirmed that adherence to existing                                                               
laws is crucial.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:07:50 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI solicited a motion.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:07:54 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN  moved  Jeff Brown,  Ron  Dupree,  Dusty  Dumont,                                                               
appointees to  the Alaska Police Standards  Council, be forwarded                                                               
to a Joint Session of the legislature for consideration.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Signing  the  report(s)  regarding  appointments  to  boards  and                                                               
commissions in  no way reflects  individual members'  approval or                                                               
disapproval of the appointees; the nominations are merely                                                                       
forwarded to the full legislature for confirmation or rejection.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:08:16 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI found no objection;  he stated that [in accordance                                                               
with AS  39.05.080] the Senate  State Affairs  Standing Committee                                                               
reviewed  the  following  and   recommends  the  appointments  be                                                               
forwarded to a joint session for consideration:                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Alaska Police Standards Council                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Jeff Brown - Juneau                                                                                                             
Ron Dupee - Juneau                                                                                                              
Dusty Dumont - Juneau                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:09:07 PM                                                                                                                    
There being no further business to come before the committee,                                                                   
Chair Kawasaki adjourned the Senate State Affairs Standing                                                                      
Committee meeting at 4:09 p.m.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Donald Handeland Personnel Board Resume_Redacted.pdf SSTA 4/2/2024 3:30:00 PM
Confirmations
Dusty Dumont Police Standards Resume_Redacted.pdf SSTA 4/2/2024 3:30:00 PM
confirmation
jeff brown Police standards Resume_Redacted.pdf SSTA 4/2/2024 3:30:00 PM
confirmation
Ron Dupee Police Standards Resume 2023_Redacted.pdf SSTA 4/2/2024 3:30:00 PM
confirmation