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04/25/2023 03:30 PM Senate STATE AFFAIRS

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03:41:02 PM Start
03:41:58 PM Confirmation Hearings
04:10:17 PM SB61
05:05:27 PM Adjourn
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Consideration of Governor’s Appointees:
Department of Corrections: Jen Winkelman
-- Public Testimony <Time Limit May Be Set> --
Alaska Public Offices Commission: Eric Fiege
-- Public Testimony --
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            SENATE STATE AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                         April 25, 2023                                                                                         
                           3:41 p.m.                                                                                            
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
Senator Scott Kawasaki, Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Matt Claman, Vice Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Jesse Bjorkman                                                                                                          
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
Senator Kelly Merrick                                                                                                           
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
CONFIRMATION HEARINGS                                                                                                           
Commissioner, Department of Corrections                                                                                       
Jen Winkelman - Juneau                                                                                                          
     - CONFIRMATION ADVANCED                                                                                                    
Alaska Public Offices Commission                                                                                              
Eric Feige                                                                                                                      
     - CONFIRMATION ADVANCED                                                                                                    
SENATE BILL NO. 61                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to an  interstate compact to elect the President                                                               
and  Vice-President  of the  United  States  by national  popular                                                               
vote; and  relating to the  selection of electors  for candidates                                                               
for President and Vice-President of  the United States and to the                                                               
duties of those electors."                                                                                                      
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
BILL: SB  61                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: US PRESIDENT ELECT. POPULAR VOTE COMPACT                                                                           
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) WIELECHOWSKI                                                                                             
02/07/23       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/07/23       (S)       JUD, STA                                                                                               
03/13/23       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
03/13/23       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/13/23       (S)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
04/17/23       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
04/17/23       (S)       Moved SB 61 Out of Committee                                                                           
04/17/23       (S)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
04/19/23       (S)       JUD RPT 2DP 1DNP 1NR                                                                                   
04/19/23       (S)       DP: CLAMAN, TOBIN                                                                                      
04/19/23       (S)       NR: GIESSEL                                                                                            
04/19/23       (S)       DNP: KAUFMAN                                                                                           
04/25/23       (S)       STA AT 3:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
JEN WINKELMAN, Commissioner-Designee                                                                                            
Department of Corrections                                                                                                       
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified as Commissioner-Designee for the                                                                
Department of Corrections.                                                                                                      
ERIC FEIGE, Appointee                                                                                                           
Alaska Public Offices Commission                                                                                                
Department of Administration (DOA)                                                                                              
Chickaloon, Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified as an appointee to the Alaska                                                                   
Public Offices Commission.                                                                                                      
DAVID DUNSMORE, Staff                                                                                                           
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented the sectional analysis for SB 61                                                                
on behalf of the sponsor.                                                                                                       
DR. JOHN KOZA, Chair                                                                                                            
National Popular Vote                                                                                                           
Los Altos, California                                                                                                           
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified by invitation in support of SB 61.                                                              
SAUL ANUZIS, representing self                                                                                                  
Washington, DC                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 61.                                                                            
MICHAEL OWENS, representing self                                                                                                
Palmer, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to SB 61.                                                                         
JUDY ANDREE, representing self                                                                                                  
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 61.                                                                            
ALEX KOPLIN, representing self                                                                                                  
Homer, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 61.                                                                            
KASSIE ANDREWS, representing self                                                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to SB 61.                                                                         
KEN HUCKEBA, representing self                                                                                                  
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to SB 61.                                                                         
KEN GRIFFIN, representing self                                                                                                  
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to SB 61.                                                                         
SEAN PARNELL, Senior Fellow                                                                                                     
Save our States                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:                                                                                                           
PAT REDMOND, representing self                                                                                                  
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 61.                                                                            
KARLA HART, representing self                                                                                                   
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 61.                                                                            
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
3:41:02 PM                                                                                                                    
VICE CHAIR MATT  CLAMAN called the Senate  State Affairs Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 3:41  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order  were Senators  Bjorkman, Merrick,  Wielechowski, and  Vice                                                               
Chair Claman. Senator Kawasaki arrived soon thereafter.                                                                         
^CONFIRMATION HEARINGS                                                                                                          
                     CONFIRMATION HEARINGS                                                                                  
            COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS                                                                         
                ALASKA PUBLIC OFFICES COMMISSION                                                                            
3:41:58 PM                                                                                                                    
VICE CHAIR CLAMAN announced the confirmation hearing for Jen                                                                    
Winkelman,   Commissioner-Designee   for    the   Department   of                                                               
3:42:22 PM                                                                                                                    
JEN WINKELMAN, Commissioner-Designee, Department of Corrections,                                                                
Juneau, Alaska, offered the following prepared statement:                                                                       
     A  little  bit  about myself.  I  am  a  4   generation                                                                    
     Alaskan.  I  was  born  and  raised  in  Fairbanks.  My                                                                    
     paternal grandparents homesteaded  on Chena Hot Springs                                                                    
     Road.  A  fun  fact-  my  great  grandma  was  born  in                                                                    
     Chicken, Alaska.   I graduated  from the  University of                                                                    
     Alaska  Fairbanks   with  a   degree  in   Justice  and                                                                    
     Paralegal  Studies. I  thought I  would continue  on to                                                                    
     law  school or  graduate school  for Chemistry.  At one                                                                    
     point, I  wanted to be an  attorney or work in  a crime                                                                    
     During my final  days in college, I  participated in an                                                                    
     internship in the  Fairbanks District Attorney's office                                                                    
     and  had  the  privilege  of learning  about  the  work                                                                    
     Probation/Parole Officers  do. I  was intrigued  by the                                                                    
     ability to wear two hats in  one job. One was that of a                                                                    
     social  worker  and the  other  was  that of  a  public                                                                    
     safety officer. I  was fortunate enough to  be hired on                                                                    
     as PO  a little  over 22  years ago.  By trade  I would                                                                    
     call myself  a Probation and Parole  Officer. I started                                                                    
     as  an   entry  level   Probation  Officer   and  wrote                                                                    
     presentence reports  for the  4  Judicial  District and                                                                    
     have worked my way through  the ranks of this wonderful                                                                    
     While  in  the field,  I  have  covered and  supervised                                                                    
     offices    from    our     northernmost    office    in                                                                    
     Barrow/Utqiagvik   to   our  southernmost   office   in                                                                    
     Ketchikan.  I  have also  worked  for  the Division  of                                                                    
     Institutions,  inside Fairbanks  and  Palmer. Not  only                                                                    
     did this  give me experience working  the toughest beat                                                                    
     inside our  facilities, it  gave me  experience working                                                                    
     with both unsentenced and sentenced inmates.                                                                               
     In 2016,  my family  and I relocated  to Juneau  when I                                                                    
     accepted a  position as the Chief  Probation Officer of                                                                    
     Region 2.  The region  consisted of  Fairbanks, Western                                                                    
     Alaska, Northern  Alaska as well  as Southeast.  I feel                                                                    
     strongly  this  position  gave me  a  very  unique  and                                                                    
     special  view of  Corrections across  the  state. I  am                                                                    
     familiar    with   the    strengths   and    struggles,                                                                    
     particularly  as they  pertain  to Corrections,  across                                                                    
     the  state and  how they  differ from  one area  to the                                                                    
     In 2018, then Commissioner  Dahlstrom trusted me to run                                                                    
     the Division  of Pretrial, Probation  and Parole  and I                                                                    
     was appointed  into the Director position.  I held that                                                                    
     position   until    being   presented    this   current                                                                    
     opportunity  by Governor  Dunleavy.  When the  Governor                                                                    
     asked me to step into  the Commissioner role, it was an                                                                    
     incredibly easy yes for a  couple of different reasons,                                                                    
     but I  would say that  the most significant  factor was                                                                    
     the support  that the Governor and  the Legislature has                                                                    
     given to the Department and our staff.                                                                                     
     My husband of  13 years, Ron, is in the  room today. He                                                                    
     is  Alaska Native,  an Athabascan  Indian  born in  the                                                                    
     village  of   Shageluk  on  the  Inoko   River.  He  is                                                                    
     absolutely my  biggest supporter.  He retired  in 2016,                                                                    
     after 30  years with the Department  of Corrections. He                                                                    
     worked as  both a  Correctional and  Probation Officer.                                                                    
     We get  a couple of  raised eyebrows when  our children                                                                    
     tell their friends that their  mom and dad met in jail.                                                                    
     We have  2 beautiful school  age boys who  love soccer,                                                                    
     baseball,  skiing/snowboarding and  we live  in Juneau,                                                                    
     so of course, fishing!                                                                                                     
3:45:55 PM                                                                                                                    
     A  little  more  about  me,   I  value  developing  and                                                                    
     building relationships.  With staff,  outside agencies,                                                                    
     the Legislature,  and of course  those in our  care and                                                                    
     custody.  My experience  across  the state  has led  me                                                                    
     figuring  out  how  to   work  together  with  whatever                                                                    
     resources  might  be available.  Very  early  on in  my                                                                    
     career a  colleague shared with  me that we are  in the                                                                    
     relationship  business and  that  is  something I  have                                                                    
     never forgotten.  We cannot  work Corrections  alone or                                                                    
     in a silo. It takes a team.                                                                                                
DESIGNEE WINKELMAN continued                                                                                                    
     Another value  I bring  to this position  is that  I am                                                                    
     naturally  a problem  solver. I  like to  think outside                                                                    
     the box for solutions. During  my career I have managed                                                                    
     a  caseload of  felony offenders.  I am  not afraid  to                                                                    
     tackle  tough,  sensitive  situations when  a  decision                                                                    
     needs to  be made.  This may mean  making an  arrest or                                                                    
     removing someone from their home  to help a victim or a                                                                    
     child. On the  flip side I may be  working with someone                                                                    
     who has hit  rock bottom and I would  make the decision                                                                    
     to refer  them to treatment  instead of taking  them to                                                                    
     jail.  These type of  decisions I never made lightly. I                                                                    
     have been  fair and impartial  in making decisions.   I                                                                    
     consider  facts  and successfully  formulate  decisions                                                                    
     based on the  big picture and ultimately  the safety of                                                                    
     our  community.  These  are  skills  critical  for  the                                                                    
     Commissioner of Corrections.                                                                                               
     Before  I go  into my  goals, I  would like  to mention                                                                    
     something  I  appreciated  the Chairman  sharing  years                                                                    
     ago.  These are  my words,  so I  hope I  am reflecting                                                                    
     your sentiment  accurately. You acknowledged  that long                                                                    
     range vision  for Corrections  is really  important and                                                                    
     the changes  from one administration to  the next makes                                                                    
     it difficult for the Commissioner  of Corrections to do                                                                    
     their job.  Having been a  staff member of  DOC through                                                                    
     several different  administrations, pendulum  shifts of                                                                    
     being tough  on crime,  easier on crime,  putting money                                                                    
     into  programming,  cutting  programming, I  could  not                                                                    
     agree more that the job  demands a long vision, and the                                                                    
     position  is an  imperative  part of  public safety.  I                                                                    
     will also  take the  opportunity to  say on  the record                                                                    
     that reentry has  to be considered just as  much a part                                                                    
     of public safety as incarceration.                                                                                         
     You  have likely  heard me  talk  about my  3 goals  or                                                                    
     vision for the Department  in various meetings. I would                                                                    
     like to share them here on the record.                                                                                     
     Health and Well Being of  staff. Starts with shifting a                                                                    
     culture  so  there is  nobility  in  the profession  of                                                                    
     Corrections,   no  matter   where  you   work  in   the                                                                    
     Department.  Kitchen, Maintenance,  Admin, Medical,  to                                                                    
     our  officers.  Giving staff  a  sense  of purpose  and                                                                    
     having  them  recognize  they  are  part  of  something                                                                    
     bigger. Healthier  staff will have a  greater impact on                                                                    
     those in  our care.  Providing training  and promotable                                                                    
     opportunities once  staff are  on board is  critical to                                                                    
     job  satisfaction. We  have 24  hour  jobs, having  the                                                                    
     ability  to be  flexible in  our work  day or  schedule                                                                    
     helps promote wellness.                                                                                                    
     My  second goal  is that  those who  enter our  system,                                                                    
     leave us better  than they came to us.  I've been doing                                                                    
     this long  enough to know  I am  not going to  save the                                                                    
     world.  There are  some  dangerous  individuals in  our                                                                    
     care that  because they  are there,  we are  safer. But                                                                    
     for those  releasing, making  sure they  release better                                                                    
     than  they came  to  us  is important.  It  may mean  a                                                                    
     shower,  sober  for a  few  days?.  Or maybe  they  are                                                                    
     reunited with kids or a GED.                                                                                               
     Finally, as cliché as it  sounds?.do the same thing you                                                                    
     get the  same result.  We need  to be  using resources,                                                                    
     technology   and   best   practices  to   do   business                                                                    
     differently.  The   hope  is   this  will   drive  down                                                                    
     recidivism.    This might  be  as  simple as  examining                                                                    
     current  old  practices  and upgrading  assessments  to                                                                    
     implementing  tablets  to  help  with  everything  from                                                                    
     programming to visitation.                                                                                                 
3:49:26 PM                                                                                                                    
     When I  go back to  goal number  2 that folks  leave us                                                                    
     better than they came to us,  I want to touch on deaths                                                                    
     in  custody. I've  said it  before  and I  will say  it                                                                    
     again,  18 deaths  in  2022 is  too  many. Every  death                                                                    
     affects someone's parent, their  loved one, or even our                                                                    
     staff. While we have  an unhealthy and quite vulnerable                                                                    
     population, we  look every day  to do things  better to                                                                    
     prevent   any  unexpected   deaths.  While   we  cannot                                                                    
     disclose details,  I will share  that in 2022,  11 were                                                                    
     natural  causes and  7 were  suicide.  For purposes  of                                                                    
     today I'll share a few  things about suicide behind our                                                                    
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE WINKELMAN continued.                                                                                      
     Suicide  in  our   community  and  inside  correctional                                                                    
     facilities   has    gone   up   nearly    30   percent.                                                                    
     Unfortunately, it is no surprise  that our numbers have                                                                    
     gone up.  We screen  every individual that  gets booked                                                                    
     into our  facilities and  do our  best to  determine if                                                                    
     suicide is  a risk  and handle the  case appropriately.                                                                    
     Unfortunately,  individuals with  trauma  and years  of                                                                    
     substance abuse  sometimes do not share  everything. We                                                                    
     do the best that we  can. We are constantly striving to                                                                    
     improve outcomes  and close gaps. This  is accomplished                                                                    
     through staff training,  policy changes, and continuous                                                                    
     assessment for  suicide risk factors. We  are utilizing                                                                    
     Project  2025  to  guide  suicide  prevention  planning                                                                    
     within  the  department.  The  National  Commission  on                                                                    
     Correctional  Health Care  partnered with  the American                                                                    
     Foundation  for Suicide  Prevention  with  the goal  of                                                                    
     reducing suicide 20 percent by  2025. While we continue                                                                    
     to seek out  ways to decrease suicide,  it is important                                                                    
     to  share that  we have  implemented jump  barriers and                                                                    
     will  continue to  look at  where we  could have  them.                                                                    
     We've  added camera  cells and  we've increased  window                                                                    
     sizing for visibility  in key areas. We  are looking at                                                                    
     technology  for tracking  rounds and  doing checks  and                                                                    
     we're looking  at technology for tracking  heart rates,                                                                    
     similar to a  Fitbit. The work is never  done with this                                                                    
3:51:10 PM                                                                                                                    
     Another important detail that  we've been working on is                                                                    
     messaging.  Where  we  can, due  to  HIPPA  law,  we're                                                                    
     getting the  information out to  the general  public on                                                                    
     our website. This aggregate data  on our population and                                                                    
     what  we're  doing  is   critically  important.  It  is                                                                    
     equally important  to share information  about positive                                                                    
     outcomes behind  the walls from  the near  daily saves.                                                                    
     We have  some pretty  incredible staff who  have chosen                                                                    
     to work  in corrections and work  with this population.                                                                    
     There are  definitely more glamorous jobs,  but we have                                                                    
     staff dedicated  daily to our  population. And  when we                                                                    
     have a death it does affect us all.                                                                                        
     In closing, I just want to  say it is an absolute honor                                                                    
     and a  privilege to serve  the Department and  those in                                                                    
     our  care and  custody. To  echo some  of the  words of                                                                    
     Chief Justice Winfree  last week, I am just  a kid from                                                                    
     Fairbanks who had  a dream to someday be  in a position                                                                    
     to make  important decisions  and effect  the wellbeing                                                                    
     of others.  I have been  honored to  do just that  as a                                                                    
     Probation/Parole Officer  for most of my  career. To my                                                                    
     delight  and  surprise  I  now   find  myself  with  an                                                                    
     opportunity  to  head  the  Department  I  love.  I  am                                                                    
     committed to giving it all I  have to give for not only                                                                    
     the 2100 employees,  the nearly 11,000 in  our care and                                                                    
     custody? but for all Alaskans.                                                                                             
     Thank you again  for your time and support  today and I                                                                    
     am happy to answer your questions.                                                                                         
VICE-CHAIR  CLAMAN   asked  if  there  were   any  questions  for                                                               
Commissioner-Designee Winkelman                                                                                                 
3:52:31 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MERRICK  thanked   Commissioner-Designee  Winkelman  for                                                               
setting  up   the  tour   for  her   at  the   Highland  Mountain                                                               
Correctional Center.  She agreed that  the staff are  critical to                                                               
the  mission and  expressed appreciation  for everything  she was                                                               
VICE-CHAIR CLAMAN asked what the  protocol was for someone who is                                                               
actively suicidal,  and what DOC  could do better to  ensure that                                                               
those  in  crisis are  given  a  more therapeutic  experience  as                                                               
opposed to more time in isolation.                                                                                              
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE WINKELMAN  said she would  need to  ask the                                                               
experts  about the  specifics of  protocol, but  everyone who  is                                                               
booked  is screened  when they  enter the  system. The  screening                                                               
tool  is  evidence-based and  staff  expertise  is relied  on  to                                                               
determine  where the  person  should be  placed.  She offered  to                                                               
follow up with more specifics on protocols.                                                                                     
VICE-CHAIR CLAMAN asked  about access to health care  and how the                                                               
grievance procedure plays into that.                                                                                            
3:54:45 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE  WINKELMAN  replied  that all  inmates  are                                                               
constitutionally   required  to   receive  essential   healthcare                                                               
through   DOC.  Individuals   request  specific   care  and   her                                                               
understanding is that inmate health care needs are been met.                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI joined the committee                                                                                           
VICE-CHAIR  CLAMAN asked  for  her thoughts  on  the new  trooper                                                               
position  within corrections  to  investigate  inmate deaths.  He                                                               
recalled a  previous internal review process  in corrections that                                                               
was removed.                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE  WINKELMAN said  the previous  position was                                                               
essentially an  internal affairs unit within  the department. The                                                               
benefit to  the new  trooper position  is that  it will  bring an                                                               
outside  perspective and  provide a  consistent point  of contact                                                               
for the department and the Department of Law.                                                                                   
3:57:20 PM                                                                                                                    
VICE-CHAIR  CLAMAN asked  for a  brief description  of the  Agnew                                                               
Beck  study about  mental health  disorders  and substance  abuse                                                               
issues in the inmate population,  the takeaways, and whether more                                                               
studies were needed.                                                                                                            
COMMISSIONER-DESIGNEE   WINKELMAN   replied   that   the   report                                                               
highlighted the  significant mental health illness  and substance                                                               
abuse issues  within the  inmate population.  She said  there's a                                                               
great need  for services to  address these issues and  she's been                                                               
looking at the first step to start working on it.                                                                               
3:59:29 PM                                                                                                                    
VICE-CHAIR CLAMAN  opened public testimony on  the appointment of                                                               
Commissioner-Designee  Jen  Winkelman;  finding none,  he  closed                                                               
public testimony.                                                                                                               
4:00:00 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
4:00:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI   reconvened  the   meeting  and   announced  the                                                               
confirmation  hearing for  Eric Feige  to  a seat  on the  Alaska                                                               
Public Offices Commission.                                                                                                      
4:01:16 PM                                                                                                                    
ERIC FEIGE,  Appointee, Alaska Public Offices  Commission (APOC),                                                               
Department   of   Administration    (DOA)   Chickaloon,   Alaska,                                                               
introduced  himself and  relayed  his  personal and  professional                                                               
resume. He graduated  from West Point and served in  a variety of                                                               
command and staff positions before  leaving the Army after Desert                                                               
Storm. He  transitioned to flying  airplanes and  currently flies                                                               
cargo  all over  the world.  He noted  that he  also served  four                                                               
years in the  Alaska Legislature. He reviewed  APOC's mission and                                                               
said he wishes to  serve on the commission as a  way to give back                                                               
to  the state.  He believes  he  has the  intellectual depth  and                                                               
judicial  temperament that  the  job requires.  If confirmed,  he                                                               
would  be the  only member  with previous  legislative experience                                                               
dealing with  APOC rules.  He'll be able  to review  appeals from                                                               
both sides.  He will  rely on  facts and the  law under  Title 2,                                                               
Chapter 50.  His plan for  the near future  is to meet  with APOC                                                               
staff and become familiar with  APOC regulations, procedures, and                                                               
4:04:37 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN asked for his  perspective on following the advice                                                               
of  counsel in  APOC matters  versus interpreting  the law  as he                                                               
sees it.                                                                                                                        
MR. FEIGE  said he will  rely on  staff and counsel  for specific                                                               
questions about  the law, but  overall it has  to be fair.  If he                                                               
sees areas  where the regulations  and statutes  don't adequately                                                               
address  particular situations,  he'll discuss  potential changes                                                               
with the other commissioners.                                                                                                   
CHAIR KAWASAKI mentioned  the budget cuts APOC  had undergone the                                                               
last few  years and asked  if he  thought the commission  had the                                                               
tools necessary to  accomplish the job of  ensuring the integrity                                                               
of public office holders.                                                                                                       
MR.  FEIGE  said  if  it   becomes  obvious  that  resources  are                                                               
insufficient  for  the commission  to  do  its job,  he  wouldn't                                                               
hesitate to  bring that to  the legislature's  attention. Whether                                                               
or  not the  commission is  doing  its job  may be  a matter  for                                                               
others to consider.                                                                                                             
4:08:07 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI opened  public testimony  on  the appointment  of                                                               
Eric  Feige  to the  Alaska  Public  Offices Commission;  finding                                                               
none, he closed public testimony.                                                                                               
4:08:36 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN stated  that the  Senate  State Affairs  Standing                                                               
Committee reviewed the following  and recommends the appointments                                                               
be forwarded to a joint session for consideration:                                                                              
Commissioner, Department of Corrections                                                                                       
Jen Winkelman - Juneau                                                                                                          
Alaska Public Offices Commission                                                                                              
Eric Feige - Chickaloon                                                                                                         
Signing  the   reports  regarding  appointments  to   boards  and                                                               
commissions in  no way reflects  individual members'  approval or                                                               
disapproval  of  the  appointees;   the  nominations  are  merely                                                               
forwarded to the full legislature for confirmation or rejection.                                                                
4:09:01 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI stated  that without objection, the  names will be                                                               
4:09:09 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
        SB  61-US PRESIDENT ELECT. POPULAR VOTE COMPACT                                                                     
4:10:17 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI   reconvened  the   meeting  and   announced  the                                                               
consideration  of SENATE  BILL  NO.  61 "An  Act  relating to  an                                                               
interstate compact  to elect the President  and Vice-President of                                                               
the United States  by national popular vote; and  relating to the                                                               
selection of electors for candidates for President and Vice-                                                                    
President  of  the United  States  and  to  the duties  of  those                                                               
He noted that this was the first hearing.                                                                                       
4:10:36 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI, District  K, sponsor of SB  61, stated that                                                               
the National Popular Vote Bill  would guarantee the presidency to                                                               
the candidate who receives the  most popular votes in all states.                                                               
He  continued  to  introduce the  legislation,  speaking  to  the                                                               
following sponsor statement:                                                                                                    
     Senate  Bill  61  will  give   every  Alaskan  voter  a                                                                    
     meaningful vote  in presidential elections  by entering                                                                    
     the National  Popular Vote agreement with  other states                                                                    
     to  guarantee  the  presidency  to  the  candidate  who                                                                    
     receives the most votes nationwide.                                                                                        
      SB 61 would have Alaska join the 15 other states and                                                                      
     the District of Columbia that have already joined the                                                                      
     agreement.  Together these  states  have 195  electoral                                                                    
     votes.  Once   states  totaling   a  majority   of  the                                                                    
     Electoral  College  (currently   270  votes)  join  the                                                                    
     agreement,  these  states  will begin  to  award  their                                                                    
     electoral  votes   to  the  presidential   ticket  that                                                                    
     receives   the  most   votes  nationwide.   Until  this                                                                    
     threshold is reached, Alaska  will continue to allocate                                                                    
     its  electoral votes  to the  winner  of the  statewide                                                                    
     Under  the current  system  presidential candidates  do                                                                    
     little to campaign  for Alaskan votes, and  they do not                                                                    
     need to  develop positions on    or even learn  about                                                                      
     issues  unique  to  Alaska.  The   last  time  a  major                                                                    
     presidential candidate  came to Alaska to  campaign for                                                                    
     general election votes was John F. Kennedy in 1960.                                                                        
     It  is  not only  Alaskan  voters  who are  ignored  in                                                                    
     presidential   elections        almost    all   serious                                                                    
     campaigning  happens  in  only 12  states.  The  entire                                                                    
     Pacific Coast  includes non-competitive  states meaning                                                                    
     presidential   candidates  do   not  have   to  address                                                                    
     concerns  that  Alaska  shares with  other  West  Coast                                                                    
     states  like Pacific  fisheries  management. Under  the                                                                    
     National  Popular   Vote  system,   savvy  presidential                                                                    
     campaigns  will fight  for every  persuadable vote,  no                                                                    
     matter  where they  are located,  and develop  messages                                                                    
     addressing the concerns of all regions.                                                                                    
     The National  Popular Vote agreement will  not give any                                                                    
     political  party an  advantage.  An  analysis by  well-                                                                    
     known  statistician  Nate  Silver found  that  "there's                                                                    
     almost  no  correlation  between which  party  has  the                                                                    
     Electoral College  advantage in one election  and which                                                                    
     has it four years later."                                                                                                  
     Passing SB 61 will help  ensure that all American votes                                                                    
     truly  are equal  and that  Alaskans' concerns  must be                                                                    
     taken seriously by presidential candidates.                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI briefly  addressed some misconceptions about                                                               
the constitutionality of the bill.  He quoted the US Constitution                                                               
that  says  each  state  shall  appoint  its  electors  based  on                                                               
direction from the  legislature. SB 61 does not do  away with the                                                               
Electoral College  system. Rather, the  state would enter  into a                                                               
contract to change the way Electoral  College votes are cast to a                                                               
system where  the winner  of the national  popular vote  gets the                                                               
Electoral College votes.  He said it's also  a misconception that                                                               
the winner  take all system  of awarding Electoral College  is in                                                               
the  US Constitution.  Just three  states  used it  in the  first                                                               
presidential  election  in  1789  and  all  three  repealed  that                                                               
provision by 1800.  It was after almost all  the founding fathers                                                               
were deceased that a majority  of states adopted the winner takes                                                               
all system of  awarding Electoral College votes.  It wasn't until                                                               
50 years after that that all  states adopted the winner takes all                                                               
The  story continues  to 1969  when Maine  changed to  a district                                                               
system to  award its Electoral  votes and Nebraska  followed suit                                                               
in 1992. This  is a reminder that states have  the flexibility to                                                               
decide how their Electoral College votes will be cast.                                                                          
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI highlighted the  following data. Since 2008,                                                               
22  states have  had no  presidential campaign  events, 9  states                                                               
have had one campaign event, and  95 of the 1,164 campaign events                                                               
occurred in  just 14 states.  Just 14 states received  98 percent                                                               
of  the  general election  campaign  events  in 2008,  12  states                                                               
received 100 percent  of the general election  campaign events in                                                               
2012,  12 states  received  94 percent  of  the general  election                                                               
campaign events  in 2016,  and 12 states  received 96  percent of                                                               
the general election  campaign events in 2020.  The vast majority                                                               
of  political campaign  events occur  in just  a small  number of                                                               
states. In 2012, for example,  candidate Obama conducted campaign                                                               
events  in  just 8  states  after  his nomination  and  candidate                                                               
Romney  conducted   campaign  events  in  10   states  after  his                                                               
nomination.  Two-thirds   of  the   presidential  post-convention                                                               
campaign  events occurred  in just  4 states.  Only 3  of the  25                                                               
smallest   states  received   any   attention   after  the   2012                                                               
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI disputed  the claim  that small  states are                                                               
ignored because of their size,  pointing out that they're ignored                                                               
because they're not  closely divided politically. He  said a vote                                                               
for  president in  Wyoming  and  Alaska is  equal  to  a vote  in                                                               
California  and  New  York. They're  all  politically  irrelevant                                                               
because  the outcomes  are clear  before  the vote  is taken.  By                                                               
contrast, SB  61 will  force candidates to  solicit votes  in all                                                               
the states in the country.                                                                                                      
4:16:15 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  stated that  it's  also  a myth  that  the                                                               
National  Popular  Vote will  advantage  large  cities. In  fact,                                                               
large cities don't even control  the elections in their state. He                                                               
listed  successful candidates  for governor  of California  going                                                               
back to Ronald  Reagan who lost in Los Angeles  but won the race.                                                               
Importantly,  85 percent  of the  population  of the  US live  in                                                               
places that have populations of  fewer than 365,000 people. It is                                                               
in those communities that presidential  candidates will be forced                                                               
to campaign to win the election.                                                                                                
CHAIR  KAWASAKI  asked  Mr. Dunsmore  to  present  the  sectional                                                               
4:18:19 PM                                                                                                                    
DAVID DUNSMORE,  Staff, Senator  Bill Wielechowski,  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature,  Juneau, Alaska,  presented  the sectional  analysis                                                               
for SB 61 on behalf of the sponsor.                                                                                             
     Section  1  is  a conforming  section  that  references                                                                  
     Section 2.                                                                                                                 
     Section  2 establishes  that the  statute for  deciding                                                                  
     tied  elections  does  not apply  to  the  presidential                                                                    
     electors when the National  Popular Vote provisions are                                                                    
     in effect.                                                                                                                 
     Section  3  is  a conforming  section  that  references                                                                  
     Section 4.                                                                                                                 
     Section  4  establishes  that  Alaska's  ranked  choice                                                                  
     voting system will be used  for calculating the popular                                                                    
     vote totals.                                                                                                               
     Section  5  is  a conforming  section  that  references                                                                  
     Section 6.                                                                                                                 
     Section 6  establishes that, when the  National Popular                                                                  
     Vote  provisions are  in effect,  Alaska's presidential                                                                    
     electors shall be awarded the  winner of the nationwide                                                                    
     popular vote.                                                                                                              
     Section  7  is  a conforming  section  that  references                                                                  
     Section 8.                                                                                                                 
     Section  8 requires  that,  when  the National  Popular                                                                  
     Vote  provisions  are  in  effect,  electors  shall  be                                                                    
     required  to  vote  for   the  presidential  and  vice-                                                                    
     presidential candidates who  won the nationwide popular                                                                    
       Section 9 enacts the Agreement Among the States to                                                                     
     Elect the President by National Popular Vote.                                                                              
        • New AS 15.30.104 is the language of the                                                                               
          o  Article  I  states  that  any   state  and  the                                                                    
             District of Columbia may join the agreement.                                                                       
          o  Article II  requires each  state  to conduct  a                                                                    
             statewide popular vote election for president                                                                      
             and vice president.                                                                                                
          o  Article  III  adopts  procedures  for  awarding                                                                    
             electors to the winner of the nationwide                                                                           
             popular vote.                                                                                                      
          o  Article IV  states  that  the  Agreement  takes                                                                    
             effect when states representing the majority of                                                                    
             the electoral votes have  joined the Agreement.                                                                    
             It also  establishes procedures  for states  to                                                                    
             leave the Agreement.                                                                                               
          o Article V defines terms used in the Agreement.                                                                      
        • New AS 15.30.106 establishes that the director of                                                                     
          the Division of Election  is considered the "chief                                                                    
          election official" for purposes of the Agreement.                                                                     
        • New AS 15.30.108 establishes that when the                                                                            
          agreement is  in effect, it shall  take precedence                                                                    
          over  any  conflicting   language  in  statute  or                                                                    
4:20:53 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI  asked if  there were  other obligations  that the                                                               
state would find difficult to comply with.                                                                                      
MR.  DUNSMORE  said  not  to   his  knowledge.  The  Division  of                                                               
Elections acknowledged  the bill would  not have a  fiscal impact                                                               
on the state and submitted a  zero fiscal note. The state will do                                                               
basic arithmetic on the certified  results from all 50 states and                                                               
the District of Columbia and award  electors to the winner of the                                                               
popular vote.                                                                                                                   
4:22:08 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI read a brief  biography to introduce Dr. John Koza                                                               
who was an invited testifier.                                                                                                   
4:23:18 PM                                                                                                                    
DR. JOHN KOZA,  Chair, National Popular Vote;  Author, Every Vote                                                               
Equal, Los Altos, California, testified  by invitation in support                                                               
of SB 61,  which would guarantee the presidency  to the candidate                                                               
with the most popular votes in  all 50 states and the District of                                                               
Columbia. He  informed the committee  of the shortcomings  in the                                                               
current presidential  election system. They stem  from the winner                                                               
take all laws that Alaska and  48 other states passed. The states                                                               
award all  electoral votes  to the  candidate receiving  the most                                                               
popular votes  in the state.  The effect  of the winner  take all                                                               
laws  is that  some states  are ignored  during the  presidential                                                               
election campaign.  He stated that a  presidential candidate will                                                               
not visit a state that is united in its party voting record.                                                                    
DR. KOZA  explained that presidential  campaigns were  limited to                                                               
12  battleground states  comprising approximately  30 percent  of                                                               
the country's  population. He pointed  out that all of  the small                                                               
states  were excluded  with the  exception of  New Hampshire.  He                                                               
added that one congressional district  in Maine received campaign                                                               
attention. He added  that nearly all Western  States are excluded                                                               
from campaigning. He noted that  most of the heartland, southern,                                                               
rural, and  northeastern states are  ignored in  the presidential                                                               
campaign.  The exclusion  of states  remains the  largest problem                                                               
with the current system.                                                                                                        
DR.  KOZA continued  that Alaska  has two  extra electoral  votes                                                               
because of the state's two  senators. He countered that the eight                                                               
smallest states with three electoral  votes, like Alaska received                                                               
one  general election  campaign  visit. He  added that  Wisconsin                                                               
received 58  visits over the  last four elections.  Wisconsin has                                                               
ten  electoral votes.  He pointed  out  that the  winner-take-all                                                               
rule led to election results hinging on a few states.                                                                           
The major  problem with the current  system is that three  out of                                                               
four states  are irrelevant to candidates  thinking about getting                                                               
elected or reelected as president.  A related problem is that the                                                               
current  system threatens  democracy. Winner  takes all  laws are                                                               
the cause of  the problem and the reason that  a national popular                                                               
vote would be better.                                                                                                           
DR.  KOZA recapped  the sponsor's  explanation of  the Interstate                                                               
Compact  and agreed  that SB  61 does  not abolish  the Electoral                                                               
College.  It changes  the  method by  which  states select  their                                                               
presidential  electors, guaranteeing  that the  Electoral College                                                               
represents  the  majority  of  the  voters  in  the  country.  He                                                               
disputed  the claim  that the  bill conflicts  with Ranked-Choice                                                               
Voting. The bill designates the  final count as Alaska's official                                                               
count on  the Certificate  of Attainment  that shows  the state's                                                               
votes  for  president and  choice  of  presidential electors.  He                                                               
noted that opponents of the  compact have falsely claimed that it                                                               
allows election officials in other  states to judge Alaska's vote                                                               
counts. The  compact specifically  requires all  states belonging                                                               
to   the  compact   to  treat   Alaska's  determination   of  the                                                               
presidential vote count as final.                                                                                               
4:31:27 PM                                                                                                                    
DR.  KOZA also  disputed  the  claim that  rural  areas would  be                                                               
ignored under  a national popular  vote. The evidence  shows that                                                               
every   vote  is   equal  in   the   battleground  states   where                                                               
presidential  candidates actually  campaign.  The  winner is  the                                                               
candidate  with  the  most  votes.  He  cited  the  example  from                                                               
Pennsylvania  which  was  the battleground  state  in  2020  that                                                               
received the  most visits. When  every vote is equal  a candidate                                                               
can't ignore any area. He said  another myth is that small states                                                               
are  Republican.  Of the  14  states  that  have three  and  four                                                               
electoral votes, seven are Republican and seven are Democratic.                                                                 
He  dispelled other  myths including  the  claim that  California                                                               
will  dominate elections.  It  is one-eighth  of  the country  by                                                               
population  but there  is an  equally loyal  group of  Republican                                                               
states that balances California.                                                                                                
CHAIR KAWASAKI asked if there were questions for Dr. Koza.                                                                      
4:35:39 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BJORKMAN asked  what outcomes  he sees  should the  bill                                                               
DR.  KOZA said  you'll see  that candidates  have to  campaign in                                                               
every state  because a  campaign that neglects  a state  would be                                                               
giving  up votes.  Small states  would necessarily  get the  same                                                               
attention as the current battleground  states. Turnout would also                                                               
rise because voters  are more likely to vote when  their vote has                                                               
been solicited.                                                                                                                 
SENATOR  BJORKMAN   asked  if  the  idea   is  that  presidential                                                               
candidates would try to run up their margins in safe states.                                                                    
DR. KOZA  said there aren't  safe states in the  National Popular                                                               
Vote.  Every  voter  counts  and   every  vote  is  equal.  Every                                                               
candidate  certainly  will  cater  to  favorable  geographic  and                                                               
demographic groups, but  that balances out so that  every part of                                                               
a state gets equal attention based on population.                                                                               
4:40:21 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR KAWASAKI opened public testimony on SB 61.                                                                                
4:40:40 PM                                                                                                                    
SAUL  ANUZIS, representing  self,  Washington,  DC, testified  in                                                               
support  of SB  61.  He  stated that  he  comes  from a  partisan                                                               
perspective and he  wanted to dispel the notion that  the bill is                                                               
partisan. He believes  that the bill is a  bipartisan approach to                                                               
a  nonpartisan problem.  His objective  is to  ensure that  every                                                               
voter in every  state is politically relevant  in every election.                                                               
He cited  examples that  illustrate that  the bill  would provide                                                               
American  reform   that  ensures  that  every   state  becomes  a                                                               
battleground state and every voter is politically relevant.                                                                     
4:43:52 PM                                                                                                                    
MICHAEL OWENS,  representing self,  Palmer, Alaska,  testified in                                                               
opposition to  SB 61.  He opined  that the  bill is  aligned with                                                               
Ranked-Choice Voting and that it's  bad for Alaska. The Electoral                                                               
College has served the country well  as evidenced in 2016 when it                                                               
saved the  country. SB 61 seeks  to change what's worked  so well                                                               
for so long  and he doesn't understand why  anybody would support                                                               
4:46:16 PM                                                                                                                    
JUDY  ANDREE, representing  self,  Juneau,  Alaska, testified  in                                                               
support of SB 61. She  opined that the Electoral College provides                                                               
a two-tiered system where everyone  votes and then many votes are                                                               
left at  the state line. She  believes that every vote  should be                                                               
equally powerful. She  also pointed out that in  recent years the                                                               
Electoral  College has  become a  national security  issue that's                                                               
made  possible by  modern technology  that  the founding  fathers                                                               
could not have  predicted. She said it's imperative  to adhere to                                                               
the basic  tenants of  democracy while  being flexible  enough to                                                               
correct  problems that  weaken democracy.  The Electoral  College                                                               
may have  been suitable in  1784 but America's purpose  should be                                                               
to  build a  more perfect  union by  keeping the  notion of  that                                                               
perfection as the guiding star.                                                                                                 
4:48:20 PM                                                                                                                    
ALEX  KOPLIN,  representing  self, Homer,  Alaska,  testified  in                                                               
support of SB 61. He said what he  likes about SB 61 is that when                                                               
he  casts his  vote for  president,  it goes  to that  candidate.                                                               
Under the current  system, his vote only counts  if his candidate                                                               
wins the election in Alaska.  Otherwise, his vote doesn't matter.                                                               
All three  of Alaska's electoral  votes go  to the winner  in the                                                               
state, regardless  of the  popular vote.  This gives  states more                                                               
power than individual  voters when picking a president.  If SB 61                                                               
were  to pass,  the  winner  of the  popular  vote would  receive                                                               
Alaska's three electoral  votes. It makes sense  that every voter                                                               
should count. The  people should decide who  should be president,                                                               
not the states.                                                                                                                 
4:50:57 PM                                                                                                                    
KASSIE  ANDREWS,  representing  self, Anchorage,  Alaska,  stated                                                               
opposition  to  SB 61.  She  argued  that the  Electoral  College                                                               
preserves the  constitutional checks  and balances to  power that                                                               
the founders intended.  Every four years it  provides a state-by-                                                               
state  snapshot  of  the  trends and  political  thought  in  the                                                               
country. She opined  that switching to the  National Popular Vote                                                               
would  leave small  states  out in  the  cold while  presidential                                                               
candidates would be focused on  states like California and Texas.                                                               
She described the National Popular Vote  as an end run around the                                                               
amendment process of the US Constitution.                                                                                       
4:52:29 PM                                                                                                                    
KEN HUCKEBA,  representing self, Wasilla, Alaska,  stated that he                                                               
vehemently  disagrees with  SB 61.  He continued  that there's  a                                                               
reason the US has a  representative republic and not a democracy.                                                               
True  populism  can be  dangerous,  particularly  now when  large                                                               
amounts  of  money  can  manipulate an  election.  He  cited  the                                                               
Bolshevik  Revolution  as  evidence. The  Electoral  College  was                                                               
established to  prevent such things.  If it's abandoned  in favor                                                               
of  the National  Popular Vote,  elections will  be swamped  with                                                               
candidates from every ideological group.                                                                                        
4:54:32 PM                                                                                                                    
KEN   GRIFFIN,  representing   self,   Wasilla,  Alaska,   stated                                                               
opposition to  SB 61 as a  citizen of Alaska. He  maintained that                                                               
the biggest  problem with  elections is  fraud. He  mentioned the                                                               
use of the World Wide Web  to access information and posited that                                                               
the idea that citizens aren't  informed or that candidates aren't                                                               
campaigning in Alaska is ridiculous.  He said Trump never came to                                                               
Alaska but he  learned everything he needed to know  about him as                                                               
a citizen. He opined that the  bill goes around the rules without                                                               
going through the established process  that has kept this country                                                               
4:56:41 PM                                                                                                                    
SEAN PARNELL, Save our State  Action, Virginia, stated opposition                                                               
to SB  61 and noted that  he submitted written testimony  to each                                                               
of  the committee  members. He  said the  greatest defect  in the                                                               
compact is that there isn't  an official national vote count that                                                               
is  reliably accurate  and conclusive.  He  maintained that  vote                                                               
counts from other  states might not be accurate  and that ranked-                                                               
choice voting  will create additional issues  because the compact                                                               
doesn't stipulate  that other states  must use the number  on the                                                               
Certificate of  Ascertainment. States can add  phantom votes that                                                               
other states would have to  accept as valid. Finally, millions of                                                               
votes  could be  excluded from  the  national vote  if a  state's                                                               
election practices do not conform  to the compact definition of a                                                               
statewide  popular election.  He offered  to send  the California                                                               
2016 Certificate  of Ascertainment  which clearly shows  an extra                                                               
4.2 million  votes for  Donald Trump and  the New  York 2008-2020                                                               
ascertainment  certificates that  show hundreds  of thousands  of                                                               
missing votes. He  concluded by saying that the  winner takes all                                                               
process  can  be  fixed  while  keeping  Alaskans  in  charge  of                                                               
Alaska's electoral votes. Such changes  could be in place for the                                                               
2024 election cycle.                                                                                                            
CHAIR  KAWASAKI asked  him to  send  the letter  he mentioned  to                                                               
senate.state.affairs@akleg.gov  and  he  would distribute  it  to                                                               
5:02:11 PM                                                                                                                    
PAT  REDMOND,   representing  self,  Anchorage,   Alaska,  stated                                                               
support  for SB  61 and  the  national popular  vote. She's  been                                                               
following the  issue for  20-25 years  and she  believes it  is a                                                               
better  way  to ensure  that  every  vote counts.  She  expressed                                                               
optimism about moving forward into a new era of voting.                                                                         
5:03:48 PM                                                                                                                    
KARLA  HART,  representing  self, Juneau,  Alaska,  testified  in                                                               
support  of SB  61.  She  stated that  she'd  been following  the                                                               
national  popular vote  concept for  a long  time. Dr.  Koza, the                                                               
League of Women  Voters, and the sponsor have spoken  well to it.                                                               
She encouraged the committee to keep the bill moving forward.                                                                   
5:04:44 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KAWASAKI closed  public testimony  on SB  61 and  held the                                                               
bill in committee.                                                                                                              
5:05:27 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair  Kawasaki  adjourned  the  Senate  State  Affairs  Standing                                                               
Committee meeting at 5:05 p.m.                                                                                                  

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 61 Version B.pdf SSTA 4/25/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 61
SB 61 Sponsor Statement.pdf SSTA 4/25/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 61
SB 61 Sectional Analysis.pdf SSTA 4/25/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 61
SB 61 Research NPV One-Pager.pdf SSTA 4/25/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 61
SB 61 Letter of Support League of Women Voters of Alaska.pdf SSTA 4/25/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 61
SB 61 Fiscal Note OOG-DOE 3.10.2023.pdf SSTA 4/25/2023 3:30:00 PM
SB 61
Commissioner of Corrections Appointment - Jennifer Winkelman Resume 2.10.2023.pdf SSTA 4/25/2023 3:30:00 PM
Governor's appointee Department of Corrections Commissioner
3.8.23 Eric Feige APOC Resume_Redacted.pdf SSTA 4/25/2023 3:30:00 PM
Governor's Appointee Alaska Public Offices Commission appointee