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+= HJR 11 RECOGNIZING ALASKA/CANADA RELATIONSHIP TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHJR 11(RES) AM Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
*+ SJR 18 WILDFIRE PREPAREDNESS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
+= SJR 19 ANWR & NAT'L PETRO RESERVE: STATE SHARE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
+= SB 139 LAND; OWNERSHIP RESTRICTIONS; AG LAND TELECONFERENCED
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         April 14, 2025                                                                                         
                           3:31 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Cathy Giessel, Chair                                                                                                    
Senator Bill Wielechowski, Vice Chair                                                                                           
Senator Matt Claman                                                                                                             
Senator Forrest Dunbar                                                                                                          
Senator Scott Kawasaki                                                                                                          
Senator Shelley Hughes                                                                                                          
Senator Robert Myers                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 11(RES) AM                                                                                    
Recognizing  and honoring  the  relationship  between Canada  and                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSHJR 11(RES) AM OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 19                                                                                                  
Urging  the United  States Congress  to  honor the  terms of  the                                                               
Mineral Leasing Act and the  Alaska Statehood Act and provide the                                                               
state  with a  90 percent  share of  all bonuses,  royalties, and                                                               
rentals  received  by  the federal  government  from  the  Arctic                                                               
National Wildlife  Refuge and the  National Petroleum  Reserve in                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 18                                                                                                  
Urging  the  Governor,  the   Department  of  Natural  Resources,                                                               
division  of  forestry and  fire  protection,  the Department  of                                                               
Public Safety, municipalities of  the state and relevant wildfire                                                               
planning  and response  agencies,  and the  Alaska delegation  in                                                               
Congress to prepare for the 2025 wildfire season.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SPONSOR SUBSTITUTE FOR SENATE BILL NO. 139                                                                                      
"An Act relating to who may own or hold certain land; relating                                                                  
to certain agreements having to do with critical infrastructure;                                                                
and providing for an effective date."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     - BILL HEARING CANCELED                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HJR 11                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: RECOGNIZING ALASKA/CANADA RELATIONSHIP                                                                             
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) KOPP                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
02/26/25       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/26/25       (H)       RES                                                                                                    
03/10/25       (H)       RES AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/10/25       (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
03/14/25       (H)       RES AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/14/25       (H)       Moved CSHJR 11(RES) Out of Committee                                                                   
03/14/25       (H)       MINUTE(RES)                                                                                            
03/17/25       (H)       RES RPT CS(RES) 7DP 1NR                                                                                
03/17/25       (H)       DP: FIELDS, HALL, ELAM, RAUSCHER,                                                                      
                         MEARS, DIBERT, BURKE                                                                                   
03/17/25       (H)       NR: COULOMBE                                                                                           
03/24/25       (H)       TRANSMITTED TO (S)                                                                                     
03/24/25       (H)       VERSION: CSHJR 11(RES) AM                                                                              
03/26/25       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/26/25       (S)       RES                                                                                                    
03/31/25       (S)       RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
03/31/25       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/31/25       (S)       MINUTE(RES)                                                                                            
04/14/25       (S)       RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SJR 19                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: ANWR & NAT'L PETRO RESERVE: STATE SHARE                                                                            
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) BJORKMAN                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
04/10/25       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/10/25       (S)       RES                                                                                                    
04/11/25       (S)       RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
04/11/25       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/11/25       (S)       MINUTE(RES)                                                                                            
04/14/25       (S)       RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SJR 18                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: WILDFIRE PREPAREDNESS                                                                                              
SPONSOR(s): RESOURCES                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
04/02/25       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/02/25       (S)       RES                                                                                                    
04/14/25       (S)       RES AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CHUCK KOPP, District 10                                                                                          
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Sponsor of HJR 11.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
LAURA ACHEE, Staff                                                                                                              
Senator Jesse Bjorkman                                                                                                          
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided a brief overview of SJR 19.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
INTIMAYO HARBISON, Staff                                                                                                        
Senator Cathy Giessel                                                                                                           
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented SJR 18 on behalf of the Senate                                                                  
Resources Committee, Senator Giessel, Chair.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NORM MCDONALD, Deputy Director                                                                                                  
Division of Forestry and Fire Protection                                                                                        
Department of Natural Resources (DNR)                                                                                           
Palmer, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified by invitation on SJR 18.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:31:26 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL called  the  Senate  Resources Standing  Committee                                                               
meeting to order  at 3:31 p.m. Present at the  call to order were                                                               
Senators Dunbar, Kawasaki, Myers,  Wielechowski, Hughes and Chair                                                               
Giessel. Senator Claman arrived immediately thereafter.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
         HJR 11-RECOGNIZING ALASKA/CANADA RELATIONSHIP                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:32:20 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL announced the consideration of CS FOR HOUSE JOINT                                                                 
RESOLUTION NO. 11(RES) am Recognizing and honoring the                                                                          
relationship between Canada and Alaska.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:32:52 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE   CHUCK   KOPP,    District   10,   Alaska   State                                                               
Legislature, Juneau,  Alaska, said that  HJR 11 is  a nonpartisan                                                               
acknowledgement  of  the  strong commitment  between  Alaska  and                                                               
Canada. He noted the strong  working relationship that exists. He                                                               
stated that HJR  11 recognizes the bonds of  trade, security, and                                                               
friendship  that  stretch  across borders  and  acknowledges  the                                                               
thousands  of  jobs, communities,  and  families  that depend  on                                                               
cross-border cooperation.  He stated  that HJR  11 sends  a clear                                                               
message that Alaska  values and stands by Canada  in both easeful                                                               
and challenging times.  He acknowledged that some  would see this                                                               
as a  symbolic gesture.  He disagreed with  this and  stated that                                                               
HJR 11  is a reaffirmation  of Alaska's commitment  to diplomacy,                                                               
economic  stability,  and  mutual   respect  between  Canada  and                                                               
Alaska.  He  stated   that  HJR  11  is  a   call  for  continued                                                               
collaboration,  stewarding  shared  resources  and  strengthening                                                               
industries. HJR 11 would ensure  that US and Canadian policies do                                                               
not harm  the region.  He emphasized that  Canada and  Alaska are                                                               
not only neighbors but also partners, allies, and friends.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:34:47 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL  opened public testimony  on HJR 11;  finding none,                                                               
she closed public testimony.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:35:03 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL solicited the will of the committee.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:35:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  moved to  report  CSHJR  11(RES) am,  work                                                               
order   [34-LS0532\H.A],    from   committee    with   individual                                                               
recommendations   and   attached    fiscal   note(s).   He   gave                                                               
authorization for  Legislative Legal  Services to  make technical                                                               
and conforming changes.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:35:27 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL  found  no  objection and  CSHJR  11(RES)  am  was                                                               
reported from the Senate Resources Standing Committee.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
         SJR 19-ANWR & NAT'L PETRO RESERVE: STATE SHARE                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:35:52 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL  announced  the   consideration  of  SENATE  JOINT                                                               
RESOLUTION NO. 19 Urging the  United States Congress to honor the                                                               
terms of  the Mineral  Leasing Act and  the Alaska  Statehood Act                                                               
and provide  the state with  a 90  percent share of  all bonuses,                                                               
royalties, and  rentals received  by the federal  government from                                                               
the Arctic  National Wildlife Refuge  and the  National Petroleum                                                               
Reserve in Alaska.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:36:26 PM                                                                                                                    
LAURA  ACHEE,   Staff,  Senator  Jesse  Bjorkman,   Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, said  that Congress debated Alaska's                                                               
statehood  with the  awareness that  the  federal government  had                                                               
previously  claimed  a large  portion  of  valuable land  in  the                                                               
region.  In   addition,  Congress   was  aware  that   the  small                                                               
population,  remote location,  and  large  geographic size  meant                                                               
that  the  state  would not  have  sufficient  population  and/or                                                               
industry  to  support itself  from  taxes  alone. Therefore,  the                                                               
Alaska  Statehood Act  addressed this  by granting  the State  of                                                               
Alaska  a  90  percent  revenue  share  from  the  production  of                                                               
minerals (including oil  and gas) on federal lands.  SJR 19 urges                                                               
Congress to  hold to that  promise. She noted that,  according to                                                               
the  statehood  agreement,  the  State of  Alaska  is  due  those                                                               
revenues. She  also pointed  out that  the state  is experiencing                                                               
fiscal challenges.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:37:30 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL   asked  for  confirmation  that   currently,  the                                                               
revenues are evenly split, with 50  percent going to the State of                                                               
Alaska.  She  shared her  understanding  that  Alaska's share  is                                                               
received as a  pass-through, which goes directly  to the impacted                                                               
communities on federal land.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:37:46 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  ACHEE   shared  her  understanding   that  this   is  region                                                               
dependent. She  said that the  revenues from the  Arctic National                                                               
Wildlife Refuge  (ANWR) (which was  a part of the  Statehood Act,                                                               
and which fell under the Mineral  Leasing Act), was changed to an                                                               
even  50-50 split.  She  added  that SJR  19  also addresses  the                                                               
National Petroleum Reserve Alaska (NPR-A),  which was not part of                                                               
the  Statehood Act  and did  not come  under the  Mineral Leasing                                                               
Act. Revenues from  NPR-A are also an even 50-50  split. She said                                                               
that Alaska faces the same  issues with regard to supporting NRR-                                                               
A (e.g.  write-offs that result  against revenues  for production                                                               
on those lands); therefore, NPR-A is included in SJR 19.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:38:51 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL  opened public testimony  on SJR 19;  finding none,                                                               
she closed public testimony.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:39:13 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL held SJR 19 in committee.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                  SJR 18-WILDFIRE PREPAREDNESS                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:39:30 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL  announced  the   consideration  of  SENATE  JOINT                                                               
RESOLUTION NO. 18 Urging the  Governor, the Department of Natural                                                               
Resources,  division   of  forestry  and  fire   protection,  the                                                               
Department  of Public  Safety, municipalities  of  the state  and                                                               
relevant wildfire planning and response  agencies, and the Alaska                                                               
delegation in Congress to prepare for the 2025 wildfire season.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:39:57 PM                                                                                                                    
INTIMAYO  HARBISON, Staff,  Senator Cathy  Giessel, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  Juneau, Alaska,  said that  SJR 18  underscores the                                                               
critical need  for enhanced wildfire  preparedness in  Alaska. He                                                               
explained that,  in recent years,  wildfire season in  Alaska has                                                               
increased in severity.  He noted that many other  states are also                                                               
experiencing increased  wildfire risk. He reiterated  that SJR 18                                                               
emphasizes the need for wildfire preparedness.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:40:58 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. HARBISON directed attention to SJR 18, page 2, lines 23-27:                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     BE  IT  RESOLVED  that, in  preparation  for  the  2025                                                                    
     wildfire  season, the  Alaska  State Legislature  urges                                                                    
     the  Governor,  the  Department of  Natural  Resources,                                                                    
     division of forestry and  fire protection, and relevant                                                                    
     municipal  and  local   agencies  to  enhance  wildfire                                                                    
     preparedness  and  response coordination  by  reviewing                                                                    
     and   developing  comprehensive   interagency  wildfire                                                                    
     response  plans  specific to  high-risk  wildland-urban                                                                    
     interface communities;                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARBISON read from SJR 18, page 3, lines 4-7:                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     FURTHER  RESOLVED that,  in  preparation  for the  2025                                                                    
     wildfire  season, the  Alaska  State Legislature  urges                                                                    
     the  Governor,  the  Department of  Natural  Resources,                                                                    
     division of forestry and  fire protection, and relevant                                                                    
     municipal and local agencies to expand public outreach                                                                     
     and education                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARBISON  explained that  Alaska lacks  wildfire preparedness                                                               
education and outreach.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:41:35 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. HARBISON  directed attention to  SJR 18, page 3,  lines 13-15                                                               
and  emphasized the  need for  emergency response  and evacuation                                                               
drills.  He pointed  to  the recent  wildfires  in California  as                                                               
evidence  for  the need  for  evacuation  plans. He  stated  that                                                               
wildfires can  grow out  of control  faster than  communities can                                                               
evacuate.  Preparedness is  key to  preventing loss  of life  and                                                               
property.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARBISON  directed attention to  SJR 18, page 3,  lines 20-23                                                               
and said this section encourages  the governor and the Department                                                               
of Natural  Resources (DNR), and  local agencies to  bolster fire                                                               
suppression resources  across Alaska. He  then turned to  SJR 18,                                                               
page 3,  lines 27-30 and  explained that this  section encourages                                                               
the governor, DNR,  and local agencies to  improve fire detection                                                               
and early warning systems. He  directed attention to SJR 18, page                                                               
4, lines  2-4 and  stated that  this section  encourages Alaska's                                                               
congressional  delegation and  other  federal representatives  to                                                               
advocate  for  increased  federal  funding  to  support  Alaska's                                                               
wildfire prevention and mitigation efforts.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:43:45 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KAWASAKI  asked who  would  receive  copies of  SJR  18.                                                               
Specifically,  he asked  whether SJR  18 would  be sent  to North                                                               
Pole,  Alaska.  He   wondered  if  the  recipient   list  in  the                                                               
resolution is inclusive.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:44:15 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. HARBISON  replied that the recipient  list in SJR 18  is non-                                                               
comprehensive and additional communities could be added.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:44:37 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL said  that [associate professor Jen  Schmidt at the                                                               
Institute of  Social and Economic  Research at the  University of                                                               
Alaska  Anchorage]  has  developed a  wildfire  prediction  model                                                               
capable  of determining  the direction  a fire  would take  as it                                                               
swept through the Hillside neighborhood  in Anchorage. She opined                                                               
that this  is very  interesting and noted  the level  of detailed                                                               
information  Ms.   Schmidt's  models  provide.  She   shared  her                                                               
understanding that Chugach Electric  has added sensing devices to                                                               
utility poles  to detect  fires. She noted  a recent  incident in                                                               
Bear Valley  in which a  utility pole  came down during  a winter                                                               
windstorm and  the electrical device ignited.  She emphasized the                                                               
risk   of  wildfires   regardless   of  season.   She  said   the                                                               
Municipality of Anchorage's Firewise  Home Assessment program has                                                               
been   highly  publicized   and  more   residents  are   building                                                               
defensible perimeters around  their homes as a  result. She noted                                                               
that the Anchorage  Regional Landfill Wood Lot would  be free for                                                               
residents  in 2025.  However, she  was  uncertain about  wildfire                                                               
preparations in other municipalities.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:46:19 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MYERS  said  that  Golden  Valley  Electric  Association                                                               
(GVEA) is proactively planning  for wildfires; however, right-of-                                                               
way boundaries have created  challenges, particularly with downed                                                               
trees. He pointed out that  downed trees have caused wildfires in                                                               
the past.  He said  there is  interest in  maintaining defensible                                                               
spaces  and public  education has  been a  priority. He  said the                                                               
focus  has  been on  education  and  expressed uncertainty  about                                                               
whether specific changes  are underway for fire  season. He noted                                                               
discussions about  evacuation planning. He stated  that, while he                                                               
is  aware  that changes  are  underway,  he  does not  have  full                                                               
details.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:48:11 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES mentioned  Kenai Peninsula and Big  Lake fires and                                                               
emphasized  that  fire is  always  a  concern.  She said  she  is                                                               
unaware of any specific plans  related to planning. She expressed                                                               
concern  about potential  fires in  the Hillside  neighborhood in                                                               
Anchorage.  She  opined that  it  is  wise to  maximize  wildfire                                                               
preparedness, particularly in areas  with a high concentration of                                                               
homes.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:48:55 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN commented  that both  Southeast and  Southcentral                                                               
Alaska  have experienced  lower-than-average snowfall  during the                                                               
current  (2024-2025) winter  season, which  often leads  to drier                                                               
summer  conditions.  He  noted   recent  fires  in  Los  Angeles,                                                               
California and fires  in various parts of Alaska.  He stated that                                                               
these  fires  serve  as  reminders  of  the  real  potential  for                                                               
wildfires  and  emphasized  the importance  of  preparedness.  He                                                               
indicated support for SJR 18.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:49:54 PM                                                                                                                    
NORM  MCDONALD, Deputy  Director, Division  of Forestry  and Fire                                                               
Protection,  Department  of   Natural  Resources  (DNR),  Palmer,                                                               
Alaska,  said  that DNR  provides  the  Kenai Peninsula,  Denali,                                                               
Anchorage, Mat-Su, and Fairbanks  Northstar Boroughs with funding                                                               
for  woody debris  lots. In  addition, DNR  hosts debris  lots in                                                               
Tok,  Delta,  and  Copper  River.  He said  this  is  part  of  a                                                               
statewide  effort  to decrease  on-site  woody  debris fires  and                                                               
increase fire safety.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:50:47 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL  emphasized the usefulness  of this  program, which                                                               
is free of charge for 2025.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:50:53 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL  opened public testimony  on SJR 18;  finding none,                                                               
she closed public testimony.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:51:11 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL held SJR 18 in committee.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:51:26 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. HARBISON  directed attention to supporting  documents for SJR
18, particularly  the Arctic Urban  Risks and  Adaptations (AURA)                                                               
wildfire  factsheets  prepared  by  Robert  Zeal  (University  of                                                               
Alaska). He noted  that these documents address  wildfires in and                                                               
around  Fairbanks and  Anchorage. He  also directed  attention to                                                               
the Public  Order, Emergency Declaration  of Fire  Season, signed                                                               
by Jeremy Douse (State Forester  and Division Director with DNR).                                                               
He stated that SJR 18 is an attempt to support those efforts.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:52:52 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair Giessel  adjourned the Senate Resources  Standing Committee                                                               
meeting at 3:52 p.m.                                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SJR 18 Factsheet Anchorage Wildfire.pdf SRES 4/14/2025 3:30:00 PM
SJR 18
SJR 18 Fiscal Note.pdf SRES 4/14/2025 3:30:00 PM
SJR 18
SJR 18 Factsheet Fairbanks Wildfire.pdf SRES 4/14/2025 3:30:00 PM
SJR 18
SJR 18 Sponsor Statement .pdf SRES 4/14/2025 3:30:00 PM
SJR 18
DNR Response to HRES re wildland fire at 3.14.25 meeting.pdf SRES 4/14/2025 3:30:00 PM
SJR 18
SJR 18 Emergency Fire Season Declaration 3.5.25.pdf SRES 4/14/2025 3:30:00 PM
SJR 18