Legislature(2025 - 2026)BUTROVICH 205

02/14/2025 03:30 PM Senate RESOURCES

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03:30:37 PM Start
03:31:13 PM Presentation(s): Investing in Alaskans – Aidea 2025 Annual Update
05:04:39 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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+ Presentation: Alaska Industrial Development and TELECONFERENCED
Export Authority
Randy Ruaro - Executive Director, AIDEA
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
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**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                       February 14, 2025                                                                                        
                           3:30 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                             DRAFT                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Cathy Giessel, Chair                                                                                                    
Senator Bill Wielechowski, Vice Chair (via teleconference)                                                                      
Senator Matt Claman                                                                                                             
Senator Forrest Dunbar (via teleconference)                                                                                     
Senator Scott Kawasaki                                                                                                          
Senator Shelley Hughes                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Robert Myers                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S): INVESTING IN ALASKANS       AIDEA 2025 ANNUAL                                                                  
UPDATE                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
RANDY RUARO, Executive Director                                                                                                 
Alaska Industrial Development and Export Authority (AIDEA)                                                                      
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented Investing in Alaskans: AIDEA 2025                                                               
Annual Update                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:30:37 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL called  the  Senate  Resources Standing  Committee                                                               
meeting to order  at 3:30 p.m. Present at the  call to order were                                                               
Senators    Kawasaki,   Hughes,    Claman,   Wielechowski    (via                                                               
teleconference), Dunbar (via teleconference) and Chair Giessel.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S):  INVESTING  IN  ALASKANS    AIDEA  2025  ANNUAL                                                               
UPDATE                                                                                                                          
   PRESENTATION(S): INVESTING IN ALASKANS  AIDEA 2025 ANNUAL                                                                
                             UPDATE                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
3:31:13 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL announced the  presentation: Investing in Alaskans:                                                               
AIDEA 2025 Annual Update.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:31:47 PM                                                                                                                    
RANDY  RUARO, Executive  Director, Alaska  Industrial Development                                                               
and  Export  Authority   (AIDEA),  Anchorage,  Alaska,  presented                                                               
Investing in Alaskans: AIDEA 2025 Annual Update                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:32:15 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO moved  to slide [2]. He explained  that AIDEA's mission                                                               
and purpose were  two-pronged: the unemployment-to-jobs component                                                               
and   the  financing/bank   component.   He  emphasized   AIDEA's                                                               
commitment to its mission and purpose.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                  Mission and Purpose of AIDEA                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
      To promote, develop, and advance economic growth and                                                                      
      diversification in Alaska by providing various means                                                                      
                  of financing and investment.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:32:59 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO  moved to and  narrated slide  3. He noted  that Senate                                                               
Bill  153,  [1961]  was  one  of the  first  bills  passed  after                                                               
statehood:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     ABOUT AIDEA                                                                                                              
     ALASKA'S DEVELOPMENT FINANCE AUTHORITY                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     AIDEA, and the precursor to AIDEA, have been investing                                                                     
        in Alaskans since 1961 to strengthen employment                                                                         
     opportunities and economic development.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
        Be it enacted by the Legislature of the State of                                                                      
                            Alaska:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
                           Article I                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
            Organization of Development Corporation                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section  1. Purpose.  The  purpose of  this  Act is  to                                                                  
     create  an instrumentality  of  the  state to  develop,                                                                    
     stimulate,  and  advance  the business  prosperity  and                                                                    
     economic  welfare  of  Alaska and  its  citizens.  This                                                                    
     shall  be accomplished  by providing  critically needed                                                                    
     investment capital  for development loans  to encourage                                                                    
     and assist  the wholesome  development of  new business                                                                    
     and industry  in Alaska and to  rehabilitate and expand                                                                    
     existing   business   and    industry.   By   providing                                                                    
     development loans  to all  types of  business activity,                                                                    
     whether    of   an    industrial,   agricultural,    or                                                                    
     recreational  nature,  the  economic stability  of  the                                                                    
     state    will   be    strengthened,   the    employment                                                                  
     opportunities  of  its  citizens  enlarged,  and  their                                                                  
     standard of living and general welfare enhanced.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Senate Bill 153                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
     Enacted by the Alaska State Legislature                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
     Because investment  capital was "critically  needed" to                                                                  
     enable jobs and enhance general welfare                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
     Approved April 24, 1961                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:33:46 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO  moved to  slide 4 and  explained that  the legislature                                                               
revisited  Senate Bill  153, and  passed House  Bill 14  in 1967.                                                               
House  Bill 14  is  where  much of  AIDEA's  organic statute  was                                                               
derived,  policy  established  and  much  of  it  remains  today.                                                               
AIDEA's   assets  and   management   were   separated  from   the                                                               
legislature, allowing AIDEA's real  and personal property to grow                                                               
through  its  activities  and  be allocated  by  its  board.  The                                                               
[AIDEA]   operating   budget,   however,  remained   subject   to                                                               
legislative review:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     ABOUT AIDEA                                                                                                              
     ALASKA'S DEVELOPMENT FINANCE AUTHORITY                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
        Be it enacted by the Legislature of the State of                                                                      
                            Alaska:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
                         Sec. 44.61.140                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
      (a) The real and personal property of the authority                                                                       
      and its assets, income, and receipts are declared to                                                                      
      be property of a political subdivision of the state                                                                       
       and together with any project financed under this                                                                        
     chapter and a leasehold interest created in a project                                                                      
      occupant or other person under this chapter, devoted                                                                      
      to an essential public and governmental function and                                                                      
                            purpose,                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     House Bill 14                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
     (4) The  establishment of industrial  and manufacturing                                                                  
     plants  in Alaska  is essential  to the  development of                                                                  
     the  natural  resources  and  the  long  term  economic                                                                  
     growth of  the state, and will  directly and indirectly                                                                  
     alleviate unemployment in the state,                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
     Approved April 4, 1967                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:34:59 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  RUARO  moved to  slide  5  and  noted that  AIDEA's  mission                                                               
statement reflected  a long-standing  commitment to  job creation                                                               
and  employment  opportunities,  emphasizing  the  importance  of                                                               
actions that generate  jobs. He said this  focus remains relevant                                                               
today:                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     AIDEA's                                                                                                                  
     PURPOSE                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     AS 44.88.010 states that:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
         "The legislature  finds,  determines, and  declares                                                                  
        that ?  there  exist areas  of  the  state in  which                                                                  
        seasonal and nonseasonal unemployment  exists ? this                                                                  
        unemployment is  a  serious  menace to  the  health,                                                                  
        safety, and general welfare, not only  to the people                                                                  
        in those areas, but also to the people of the entire                                                                  
        state.  ?  the  state   lacks  basic  manufacturing,                                                                  
        industrial, ? and  business enterprises  ? necessary                                                                    
        to  permit  adequate  development   of  its  natural                                                                    
        resources and the balanced growth of  its economy.                                                                      
        establishment and expansion of  [these entities] are                                                                    
        essential  to   the  development   of  its   natural                                                                    
        resources and the long-term economic growth of the                                                                      
        state, and will directly and indirectly alleviate                                                                       
        unemployment in the state."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:35:39 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO moved to slide 6:                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     WHY WE DO                                                                                                                
     WHAT WE DO                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                          "Jobs help.                                                                                           
                       Jobs help a lot."                                                                                        
                  -Fred Sun, Tribal President                                                                                   
                   Native Village of Shungnak                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
      [Video: Village elders prioritize the well-being of                                                                       
     future generations. Advocating for the Ambler road as                                                                      
      an opportunity for jobs, opportunities and choices.]                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:37:44 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO said he spends a fair amount of time in Alaska                                                                        
villages and hears the message that jobs are critical for the                                                                   
mental health and well-being of rural Alaskans.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:38:20 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO moved to slide 7 and said the research bears out the                                                                  
observations of the village elders:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SOCIAL AND HEALTH BENEFITS                                                                                               
     OF JOBS AND COMMUNITY ACCESS                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
      Jobs and access to communities have positive social                                                                       
        and health benefits particularly in rural Alaska                                                                        
     communities.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
        • "Suicide prevention researchers working in rural                                                                      
          Alaska   Native  villages   offer   a  number   of                                                                    
          recommendations   for    intervention,   including                                                                    
          enhanced     occupational      and     educational                                                                    
          opportunities   to   alleviate  poverty,   greater                                                                    
          access to mental health treatment services,                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
        • "Inadequate   opportunities    for   socioeconomic                                                                    
          advancement  were seen  as  major contributors  to                                                                    
          suicide,  especially among  Alaska Native  men. ?"                                                                    
          (Alaska  Native  men  400 percent  higher  suicide                                                                    
          rate than national average)                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
        • "Many Alaska Native communities are off the road                                                                      
          system   and  often   lack  local   providers  for                                                                    
          counseling   or  psychiatry   services,  requiring                                                                    
          community  members  to  travel by  airplane  to  a                                                                    
          distant location  in order to  see a  physician or                                                                    
          counselor.  ?  These  barriers prevent  people  in                                                                    
          crisis from  receiving the help  they need  at the                                                                    
          time they most need it."                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Citing:  Beliefs about  Causal Factors  for Suicide  in                                                                    
     Rural  Alaska  Native Communities  and  Recommendations                                                                    
     for  Prevention, Transcult  Psychiatry, 2022  February;                                                                    
     59(1): 78-92. Doi: 10.1177/1363461520963869                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:39:12 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  RUARO  moved  to  and  narrated  slide  8,  emphasizing  the                                                               
significant  difference between  the  unemployment  rate and  the                                                               
rate  that would  include  people  who had  given  up on  finding                                                               
employment, reflected by the labor participation rate:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     WHAT IS THE STATUS OF                                                                                                    
     UNEMPLOYMENT IN THE UNITED STATES?                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     The formal measure of "unemployment" is misleading.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     It does not measure persons who have given up looking                                                                      
     for work.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Using "labor participation" as a measure:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
        • The labor participation rate is 62.5 percent in                                                                       
          the  United   States.  Meaning  nearly  4   in  10                                                                    
         Americans have given up hope of finding a job.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        • This rate is just 2.4 percent better than "the                                                                        
          labor  participation" during  COVID years  of 2020                                                                    
          and 2021.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
       [Graph titled: Civilian labor force participation                                                                        
     rate, seasonally adjusted, for the years 2004 through                                                                      
     2024.]                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:39:47 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  RUARO moved  to slide  9. He  noted that  Alaska rates  were                                                               
similar  to nationwide  rates and  there had  been some  recovery                                                               
since covid:                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     UNEMPLOYMENT &                                                                                                           
     LABOR FORCE PARTICIPATION IN ALASKA                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Labor Participation Rate for Alaska                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
        • Labor participation rate in Alaska is a little                                                                        
          better than national average at 65 percent.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
        • Job scarcity is one reason rates are so high in                                                                       
          rural areas.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     [Graph: illustrating the Labor Participation Rate for                                                                      
     Alaska, 1980 through the present.]                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:40:11 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI  noted the  recent report  by the  Department of                                                               
Labor  and Workforce  Development  highlighting increases  across                                                               
the economy  in non-resident hiring.  He expressed  concern about                                                               
the  trend  and  asked  whether  AIDEA  could  offer  insight  or                                                               
suggestions.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:41:01 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO concurred with the  concern and emphasized the need for                                                               
better  connections to  the workforce,  especially for  youth. He                                                               
highlighted a  successful project in  Hughes where a  local chief                                                               
organized  20  kids  from  three   villages  into  a  road  crew,                                                               
showcasing   the   importance   of   leadership   and   community                                                               
engagement.  He suggested  partnerships  with  tribes, the  State                                                               
Department  of  Labor,  and the  Workforce  Investment  Board  to                                                               
engage youth in the workforce  earlier, possibly even from middle                                                               
school.  He  acknowledged  the  complexity  of  the  problem  but                                                               
stressed  the urgency  of finding  solutions  to integrate  local                                                               
youth into the workforce.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:43:30 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGHES  asked  whether   AIDEA  was  looking  at  hiring                                                               
Alaskans for AIDEA projects.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:43:56 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO noted  that historic and cultural respect  led AIDEA to                                                               
seek local  residents to work as  bear guards on the  Ambler Road                                                               
He affirmed  that as  AIDEA developed  projects they  were always                                                               
considering  the supply  of  workers and  would  always make  the                                                               
effort [to hire Alaskans].                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:44:26 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES asked  whether the ability to hire  Alaskans for a                                                               
project influenced the attractiveness of a project for AIDEA.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:44:47 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  RUARO  said [Alaska  hire]  was  not  a criterion  that  was                                                               
applied  when  deciding  whether  to fund  a  project.  Financial                                                               
criteria   and  the   merits   of  a   project   were  the   main                                                               
considerations, but  AIDEA would  look to  include people  near a                                                               
project and interested in it.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:45:20 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN  noted  that   [AIDEA]  projects  often  involved                                                               
creation  of   infrastructure.  He   observed  that   the  Alaska                                                               
workforce often lacked training  to participate. He asked whether                                                               
AIDEA invested in job training  programs to prepare the workforce                                                               
for opportunities other entities might create.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:45:54 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO said AIDEA partnered  with Department of Transportation                                                               
and  Public Facilities  (DOTPF) to  use Statewide  Transportation                                                               
Improvement  (STIP) funds  designated  for job  training and  job                                                               
readiness.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:46:39 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO moved through slide 10 and narrated slide 11:                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     AIDEA FISCAL YEAR 2024                                                                                                   
     FINANCIAL HIGHLIGHTS                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
     $1.49 B NET POSITION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     $52.8 M INCREASE IN NET POSITION                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     $65 M HIGHEST STATUTORY NET INCOME IN AIDEA HISTORY                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     $495 M AIDEA DIVIDENDS APPROVED CUMMULATIVE TOTAL                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     $20 M AIDEA DIVIDEND APPROVED FOR PAYMENT IN FY2026                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     [Bar Graph "AIDEA NET POSITION" for Fiscal Years 2020                                                                      
     - 2024]                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     [Bar Graph "AIDEA DIVIDENDS DECLARED" for Fiscal Years                                                                     
     2022 - 2026]                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
3:48:07 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO moved to and narrated slide 12:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     AIDEA FINANCIAL                                                                                                          
     FY2024 HIGHLIGHTS                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                      AIDEA Asset Balance                                                                                     
              as of December 31, 2024 ($ Millions)                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     [Pie Chart: $1,719.1m divided as follows:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     $532      Balance of Loans Financed                                                                                        
     $178      Capital Assets & Construction Work in                                                                            
               Progress                                                                                                         
     $192      Accounts Receivable                                                                                              
     $12       Other Assets                                                                                                     
     $345      Cash on Hand                                                                                                     
          $200* Pending Commitments by AIDEA Board of                                                                         
               Directors                                                                                                        
               $145  Net Amount                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
               *Committed Projects                                                                                            
               Loan Participation Program                                                                                       
                •   Alaska Hotel Group - $25m                                                                                   
                •   Stoneridge Shop LLC - $1.35m                                                                                
                •   JT Investments Alaska LLC - $3.6m                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
               Direct Finance                                                                                                   
                •   Alyeschem LL - $70m                                                                                         
                •   HEX Cook Inlet - $50m                                                                                       
                •   AGDC - $50m                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     $46       Program Restricted Funds                                                                                         
     $57       Project Reserve Funds                                                                                            
     $357      Investment Funds                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:51:02 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI noted that AGDC  previously testified before the                                                               
committee that they were applying  for $50 million from AIDEA and                                                               
did not need the funds from  the current budget. He asked whether                                                               
AGDC had already approached AIDEA.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:51:20 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  RUARO affirmed  that  AGDC had  approached  AIDEA about  six                                                               
months ago  for a backstop/guarantee  for [front  end engineering                                                               
and  design]  (FEED)  work  [for  Phase One  of  the  Alaska  LNG                                                               
project]. He said an appropriation  was submitted by the governor                                                               
in his  December [2024] budget.  However, based on work  by AIDEA                                                               
staff, it was  discovered the $50 million [general  fund] was not                                                               
needed and there  was a credit facility that will  allow AIDEA to                                                               
keep the funds in-house rather than  leave the hands of AIDEA. He                                                               
expressed confidence that AIDEA  could handle [the backstop loan]                                                               
without an appropriation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:52:05 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KAWASAKI asked  whether  Mr. Ruaro  served  on the  AGDC                                                               
board.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. RUARO said he did not.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KAWASAKI asked for confirmation  that AGDC did not need a                                                               
direct $50  million appropriation [from the  legislature] because                                                               
they were  applying for  the funds from  AIDEA. He  asked whether                                                               
that would be cash.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:52:24 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  RUARO said  the credit  facility formulated  by AIDEA  was a                                                               
corporate guarantee,  which, he explained, was  simply a contract                                                               
saying that  if [final  investment decision]  FID was  not taken,                                                               
AIDEA would  backstop the costs  for FEED  [for Phase One  of the                                                               
Alaska LNG project] up to  the amount expended. He clarified that                                                               
there was  not a hard  $50 million  figure, for example,  if FEED                                                               
costs are  $20 million, that  would be the maximum  liability for                                                               
AIDEA.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:53:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGHES   noted  discussion  about   whether  legislative                                                               
approval would be  required [for the backstop loan  to AGDC]. She                                                               
acknowledged that  AIDEA had  the authority  to proceed  with the                                                               
corporate guarantee. She asked whether  that would show up in the                                                               
budget as receipt authority or in some other way or not at all.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:53:43 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO said  the backstop loan funds would not  show up in the                                                               
state  budget because  the source  of  the funds  would be  AIDEA                                                               
receipts   and  revenue   which  were,   according  to   statutes                                                               
describing AIDEA's authority, separate from state assets.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:54:33 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES  stated that  the backstop  funds would  come from                                                               
AIDEA's assets and not from  AIDEA's operating budget, which, she                                                               
recalled, was under legislative authority.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:54:55 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO affirmed.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:55:00 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL observed  AIDEA reported $345 million  cash on hand                                                               
and  that  it  appeared  they had  committed  [all]  those  funds                                                               
according to the pending commitments.  She asked whether that was                                                               
AIDEA's  normal  approach   and  if  so,  she   asked  where  the                                                               
commitment of  the dividend owed  to the state was  reflected [in                                                               
the pie chart].                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:55:29 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO  said AIDEA had that  account as cash on  hand. He said                                                               
he  could   move  funds  from  matured   investment  accounts  to                                                               
supplement the cash on hand  account and AIDEA had funds maturing                                                               
each month.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:56:01 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL  asked for  confirmation that  the dividend  to the                                                               
state would  be paid out of  the re-infusion to the  cash on hand                                                               
account.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:56:09 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO affirmed and said  AIDEA had approximately $140 million                                                               
on hand and that they prefer  to keep $100 million in reserve for                                                               
bonding  and other  things. He  said  they have  some margin  and                                                               
would be  adding maturing cash  balances from the  investments to                                                               
the revolving  fund. He  said the dividend  [to the  state] would                                                               
come from there.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:56:37 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  recalled  that  AIDEA expected  to  pay  a                                                               
dividend of  $20 million [slide  11], on assets of  $1.2 billion.                                                               
He asked whether that was accurate.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:57:01 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO affirmed that the  $20 million dividend declared by the                                                               
board  was  based not  on  total  assets,  but on  statutory  net                                                               
income.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:57:15 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI noted that the  dividend equated to a return                                                               
of about 1.6 percent. He asked if that was accurate.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:57:26 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO said he wasn't sure  that the math was exactly correct.                                                               
He said  the dividend was based  on the $66 million  in statutory                                                               
net income and according to statute,  would be set between 25 and                                                               
50 percent  of the statutory  net income.  He said he  thought it                                                               
was roughly a 37.5 percent dividend.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:57:52 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL   noted  AIDEA's   Chief  Financial   Officer  was                                                               
available online.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:58:02 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  asked about  the terms  of the  $50 million                                                               
backstop [loan  to AGDC].  He noted  that contracts  require that                                                               
something of  value be  exchanged. He  understood the  value that                                                               
Glenfarne or  AGDC would  be receiving in  the backstop  loan and                                                               
asked what  AIDEA would  receive in  exchange and  suggested they                                                               
might  receive an  equity stake  in the  [Alaska LNG]  project or                                                               
interest payments or some sort of back-end payment.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:58:47 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  RUARO  said  there  was  no final  agreement  with  AGDC  or                                                               
Glenfarne.  He  said  the terms  were  still  under  negotiation,                                                               
however,  he said  there was  significant positive  consideration                                                               
and  significant benefit  for AIDEA  and therefore  to the  state                                                               
through its dividend, to step forward.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:59:29 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  asked for  further information  about those                                                               
benefits,  and  he  asked  whether   AGDC  would  be  subject  to                                                               
penalties if  they didn't follow  through with the  agreement. He                                                               
asked for insight.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:59:50 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO  said he wasn't aware  of any details between  AGDC and                                                               
Glenfarne and wasn't aware of penalties.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:00:11 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI   clarified  that  he  was   curious  about                                                               
penalties [for AGDC].                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. RUARO  reiterated that  he was  not aware  of the  details of                                                               
contracts between AGDC and Glenfarne.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:00:26 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked  for further details on  the nature of                                                               
the  potential substantial  benefit  to the  state, for  example,                                                               
monetary payments, jobs etc.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:00:46 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  RUARO answered  that it  would  be both,  jobs for  Alaskans                                                               
resulting from the [Alaska LNG] project  and a return of funds to                                                               
AIDEA for taking the risk of the backstop.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:01:10 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  asked that AIDEA  provide the terms  of the                                                               
contract to the committee when it is signed.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:01:19 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO noted  that he would check with legal  counsel. He said                                                               
he was constrained by non-disclosure  agreements (NDAs) and would                                                               
have to clarify what he could and could not share.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:01:47 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR asked  for  details  about reserve-based  lending                                                               
AIDEA  was  engaged in  with  HEX  or  Blue  Crest or  other  gas                                                               
development in Cook Inlet.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:02:20 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO  said AIDEA committed  to a $50 million  revolving loan                                                               
for  HEX. He  said it  was the  type of  loan that  could be  re-                                                               
charged  as  payments  are  made.  He  said  that  would  provide                                                               
HEX/Furie with  working capital to  produce more gas  from [Cook]                                                               
Inlet. He said AIDEA had  applications pending with BlueCrest but                                                               
had not reached agreement or commitment.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:02:54 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR  noted discussion about  the lack of  jackup  rigs                                                               
as a  limiting factor on gas  production in Cook Inlet.  He asked                                                               
whether  AIDEA had  considered bringing  a jack-up  rig [to  Cook                                                               
Inlet]. He noted that HEX/Furie  testified that they could keep a                                                               
jack-up rig busy for two or three continuous years.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:03:37 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO said  AIDEA had been in discussions  about jack-up rigs                                                               
with  several  companies. He  said  there  was  not yet  a  final                                                               
agreement to  report. He said AIDEA  was aware of the  benefits a                                                               
rig would provide.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:04:01 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN  asked whether the  $50 million backstop  had been                                                               
paid out yet.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:04:08 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO said there was not  yet a final agreement with AGDC. He                                                               
explained  that when  there  is a  final  agreement, the  company                                                               
performing the FEED  work would pay that and it  wouldn't draw on                                                               
any AIDEA  funds. It's  only after  FEED is  complete and  if the                                                               
company chooses  not to go forward  with FID that there  would be                                                               
any risk to AIDEA funds.  Until then, the company [performing the                                                               
FEED work] would be spending its own money.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:04:44 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN  asked whether  the commitment  to make  [pay] the                                                               
backup loan had occurred.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:04:58 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO  said the  [AIDEA] board met  and heard  testimony from                                                               
AGDC and  Glenfarne and  passed a  resolution in  December [2024]                                                               
authorizing  negotiation. He  said  final documents  had not  yet                                                               
been signed.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:05:19 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN   summarized  his  understanding  that   when  an                                                               
agreement is signed, AIDEA will  not be required to pay anything,                                                               
but the $50 million will be  encumbered, meaning that it can't be                                                               
spent elsewhere.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:05:41 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO affirmed the summary.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:05:47 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN asked whether AIDEA  would be able to identify the                                                               
specific  considerations  AIDEA  would receive  in  exchange  for                                                               
encumbering the $50 million.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:06:02 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  RUARO said  he would  ask for  legal guidance  regarding his                                                               
ability to share specifics.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:06:20 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL  asked that his findings  be sent to her  office to                                                               
distribute to committee members.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:06:29 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN commented  that he would prefer  more specific and                                                               
concrete  consideration  regarding employment  opportunities  for                                                               
the state in exchange for encumbering $50 million.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:06:52 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL noted  that  work like  [the  Alaska LNG  project]                                                               
generally  brings up  outsiders  and does  not  provide jobs  for                                                               
Alaskans.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:07:00 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGHES noted  that AIDEA  expected monetary  benefits in                                                               
addition  to jobs  and suggested  that expectation  was specific.                                                               
She asked what  the expected timeline for  [front end engineering                                                               
and design] FEED  would be and how long the  $50 million would be                                                               
encumbered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:07:25 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO  said it would depend  on the scope of  work determined                                                               
by the company  to complete FEED. He said, according  to AGDC and                                                               
other sources it could take one and a half to two years.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:07:55 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KAWASAKI asked  whether  AIDEA was  currently rated  and                                                               
whether  bond   ratings  were   going  up   or  down   for  AIDEA                                                               
specifically.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:08:09 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO said AIDEA was not currently bond rated.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:08:14 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI  noted the  $532 million  in loans  financed [by                                                               
AIDEA].  He asked  whether  those loans  were  rejected by  banks                                                               
because the banks did not have  enough money or because the loans                                                               
were high risk.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:08:43 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO said  it was a combination of both,  [high] risk in the                                                               
loans and  a shortage  of available equity.  He said  AIDEA could                                                               
come in  with a six  or six and  one half percent  interest loan,                                                               
take on  some of  the risk  and allow  a loan  to go  forward. He                                                               
noted  that   AIDEA  had  a   zero-default  rate.  He   said  the                                                               
underwriting from the  initiating bank was still  strong and that                                                               
there was also underwriting for AIDEA's participation.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:09:52 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGHES said  she  was  asking a  question  on behalf  of                                                               
Senator Myers. She noted that  small miners found it difficult to                                                               
secure  financing, especially  for unconventional,  but important                                                               
minerals  such  as  antimony.  She   noted  that  funding  seemed                                                               
available  for larger  mining companies,  including international                                                               
companies. She  mentioned that a  revolving loan fund  for miners                                                               
was  reportedly being  discontinued.  She noted  the support  for                                                               
reducing mineral reliance on China  and asked whether AIDEA would                                                               
provide support for smaller Alaskan miners.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:11:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  RUARO said  AIDEA  transferred administration  of two  small                                                               
loan programs to Department of  Commerce, though they weren't the                                                               
programs  mentioned.  He  expressed interest  in  the  [revolving                                                               
loan] fund. He  said the miner would be required  to report their                                                               
mineral  findings to  build the  government mineral  database. He                                                               
suggested that  he could talk  to Commissioner  Sande [Department                                                               
of Commerce,  Community and  Economic Development  (DCCED)] about                                                               
the [revolving loan] program.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:12:13 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL asked that findings  be forwarded to her office for                                                               
distribution to the committee.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:12:27 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO moved to slide 13:                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     AIDEA's                                                                                                                  
     Financial Toolbox                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
      AIDEA is a catalyst for economic development with a                                                                       
        track record for success, utilizing a variety of                                                                        
     financial tools such as:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Loan Participation                                                                                                       
       The Loan Participation program provides long-term                                                                        
         fixed and variable rate financing to Alaska's                                                                          
     commercial businesses.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RUARO  said the  Loan  Participation  Program was  the  main                                                               
generator for  the block  of loans illustrated  in the  pie chart                                                               
[on  slide  12]   and  for  which  banks   approached  AIDEA  for                                                               
financing.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Project Finance                                                                                                          
     AIDEA can  finance projects (whole or  partial) through                                                                    
     its ability to develop & own assets within the State.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. RUARO said an example  of Project Finance was AIDEA's funding                                                               
for individual projects like Red Dog Mine.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Conduit Revenue Bonds                                                                                                    
     AIDEA  is  one  of  the State's  Principal  issuers  of                                                                    
     taxable & tax-exempt Conduit Revenue Bonds.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. RUARO  said AIDEA used  Conduit Revenue Bonds for  the Alaska                                                               
Native  Medical  center and  for  hospitals  which have  Medicaid                                                               
funds that can be used as revenue.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Energy & Resource Development                                                                                            
     The  Alaska  Sustainable   Energy  Transmission  Supply                                                                    
     Fund,  Arctic Infrastructure  Development Fund,  & Cook                                                                    
     Inlet  Reserve-Based   Lending  Program   are  programs                                                                    
     within AIDEA to meet Alaska's energy resource needs.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. RUARO  said Energy and Resource  Development presents options                                                               
such as the new program - Cook Inlet Reserve-Based Lending.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Asset Ownership                                                                                                          
     In  addition   to  traditional  financing,   AIDEA  can                                                                    
     directly  own assets  that generate  revenue or  enable                                                                    
     economic development.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. RUARO noted that AIDEA owned  assets such as the Red Dog Mine                                                               
road and port and the FedEx hangar, etc.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     AIDEA Bonds                                                                                                              
     AIDEA  has  the  authority   to  issue  tax-exempt  and                                                                    
     taxable bonds.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. RUARO said AIDEA did have  authority to bond but was pursuing                                                               
their rating.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Strong Investment Relationships & Financial Expertise                                                                    
     AIDEA provides financial expertise and information to                                                                      
     assist with projects, job creation, and infrastructure                                                                     
     development.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:13:41 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN asked  how much  it would  cost and  how long  it                                                               
would take to get a bond rating back in place.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:13:49 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO said he was not sure.  He said there was a new employee                                                               
who  had experience  with bond  ratings. He  expected they  would                                                               
work with  Department of Revenue (DOR)'s  deputy commissioner. He                                                               
opined that AIDEA would not incur high costs.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL  requested AIDEA  to provide  follow-up information                                                               
[for bond rating] expectations.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:14:28 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO moved  to slide 14, AIDEA's Assets  and Projects, Bonds                                                               
and  Loans, pinpointing  their  locations on  an  outline map  of                                                               
Alaska. He  noted that  AIDEA was  involved with  projects spread                                                               
widely across the state.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:14:56 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO moved through slide 15 to page 16 and narrated:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     INNOVATIVE UTILIZATION                                                                                                   
     OF NATURAL RESOURCES                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Financing Approved for Alyeschem North Slope Project                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
        • Project goal Utilize Alaska's natural gas for                                                                         
          economic and environmental benefits.                                                                                  
        • Facility to produce methanol & ultra-low sulfur                                                                       
          diesel from North Slope gas.                                                                                          
        • Economic impact:                                                                                                      
             • 80 construction jobs and 15 permanent jobs.                                                                      
             • Estimated $5M+ in annual tax & royalty                                                                           
               revenue for the state.                                                                                           
             • Increased demand for North Slope natural gas                                                                     
               supports local producers.                                                                                        
             • Environmental    benefits:    Cleaner-burning                                                                    
               fuels align with global emission reduction                                                                       
               efforts.                                                                                                         
             • Public-private partnership drives economic                                                                       
               growth and sustainability.                                                                                       
             • Project to break ground soon, marking a step                                                                     
               toward energy innovation in Alaska                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. RUARO said Alyeschem would be one of the first chemical                                                                     
plants in the state, replacing import shipments that come from                                                                  
as far away as Trinidad.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:15:45 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO  moved to slide 17  and said the Cook  Inlet Cook Inlet                                                               
revolving loan  and line  of credit would  help HEX  produce Cook                                                               
Inlet gas  for years to  come. He noted  that the line  of credit                                                               
was rechargeable as HEX continues to pay the loan down:                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     RAILBELT ENERGY SOLUTIONS                                                                                                
     HEX COOK INLET LLC LEADS THE WAY                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     HEX CI's Financial Milestone & Strategic Investment                                                                      
       • Repaid its $7.5 million AIDEA loan eight months                                                                        
        early in 2023.                                                                                                          
     • Enabled HEX LLC's acquisition of the Kitchen Lights                                                                      
        Unit (KLU).                                                                                                             
     • Secured energy delivery and created nearly 40 local                                                                      
        jobs.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Meeting Alaska's Energy Needs                                                                                            
      • AIDEA approved a $50 million revolving credit line                                                                      
        in late 2024.                                                                                                           
      • Plans include sidetracking underperforming wells,                                                                       
        drilling new wells, and expanding production.                                                                           
     • Expected to create up to 100 temporary construction                                                                      
        jobs and five permanent positions.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:16:17 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO moved to and narrated slide 18:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     INTERIOR ENERGY PROJECT                                                                                                  
     OPERATED BY IGU                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     •  Trailer  Deployment:  All  15  large  -capacity  LNG                                                                  
        trailers have been received and are now in                                                                              
        operation.                                                                                                              
     •  LNG  Plant  Construction:  Harvest  Midstream  North                                                                  
        Slope LNG Plant is advancing as planned and is                                                                          
        expected to ensure a reliable gas supply for                                                                            
        Interior Alaska.                                                                                                        
     •  Future   Commitment:   IGU  remains   dedicated   to                                                                  
        providing    affordable,    clean    energy    while                                                                    
        strengthening long -term operational capabilities.                                                                      
     •  Financial Performance: Strong  financial health with                                                                  
        credit rating improvement through sound fiscal                                                                          
        management and operational efficiency.                                                                                  
     •  Operational  Progress: Steady growth  in operations,                                                                  
        financial stability, and project execution.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:16:55 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO moved to and narrated slide 20:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     AUTHORITY OF AIDEA TO ISSUE A                                                                                            
     "CORPORATE  GUARANTEE"  TO ALASKA  GASLINE  DEVELOPMENT                                                                    
     CORPORATION (AGDC) GDC / 8-STAR                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     •  The type of credit  facility AIDEA is offering  is a                                                                    
        "Corporate Guarantee".  A promise  in  writing in  a                                                                    
        contract with 8-Star / AGDC.                                                                                            
     •  The Corporate Guarantee in this particular case that                                                                    
        is   being   discussed   is   both   "limited"   and                                                                    
        "conditional."                                                                                                          
     •  It is "limited" to an amount "up  to" a sum certain.                                                                    
        In this case, "up to" $50 million but really "up to"                                                                    
        the amount and cost for Front End Engineering Design                                                                    
        (FEED)  work   actually  performed   when  a   Final                                                                    
        Investment Decision (FID)  decision is  made. Reason                                                                    
       to believe significantly less, due to contingency.                                                                       
     •  It is "conditional" because the obligation to make a                                                                    
        payment  only  comes  into  effect  if  there  is  a                                                                    
        decision by  Glenfarne  not  to  proceed with  a  go                                                                    
        forward on the FID.                                                                                                     
     •  If Glenfarne chooses to go forward  with the project                                                                    
        and a positive FID, then AIDEA  pays nothing for the                                                                    
        FEED work.                                                                                                              
     • Multiple statutes give AIDEA the legal authority to                                                                      
        enter into a corporate guarantee contract with 8-                                                                       
        Star / AGDC. AS 44.88.080(5); AS 44.88.080(9); AS                                                                       
        44.88.080(11); AS 44.88.080(13) and AS 44.88.080(17)                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:18:36 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI asked  that contracts between AGDC  and AIDEA be                                                               
shared  with the  committee.  He pointed  out  that [funding  for                                                               
AGDC]  was part  of the  [State] operating  budget and  that AGDC                                                               
funding from AIDEA  was off the books. He asserted  that this was                                                               
a change to  the operating budget and noted that  the decision to                                                               
provide the $50  million for AGDC was  [previously] a legislative                                                               
decision to  make, and now  was not.  He asked whether  there was                                                               
any comment.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:19:30 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.   RUARO   said    AIDEA   initially   requested   legislative                                                               
appropriation  for  the  AGDC project.  However,  they  found  an                                                               
alternative in a conditional guarantee  that would keep the funds                                                               
with  AIDEA. He  said, given  the altered  circumstances and  the                                                               
[state's]  budget constraints,  AIDEA decided  not to  burden the                                                               
legislature  with the  appropriation  request,  opting to  manage                                                               
without it.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:20:38 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL  noted that AIDEA  must have made the  decision [to                                                               
withdraw  the  request  for a  legislative  appropriation]  after                                                               
December 15th.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. RUARO concurred.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:20:45 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN  asked whether  the  logic  [for withdrawing  the                                                               
request  for  a legislative  appropriation]  was  that the  funds                                                               
would  not be  disbursed immediately;  AIDEA would  only have  to                                                               
encumber the funds, not immediately spend them.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:21:19 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  RUARO  said  statutory policy  decisions  made  by  previous                                                               
legislatures  directed  that assets  and  funds  earned by  AIDEA                                                               
would  be separate  from the  state  and the  state's credit  vs.                                                               
"state funds"  that are subject  to the executive budget  act. He                                                               
said those decisions  were made decades ago and  the authority to                                                               
make  decisions  over  AIDEA  assets would  vest  in  the  board,                                                               
subject  to  reporting,  except for  [AIDEA's]  operating  budget                                                               
which continues to be subject to legislative review.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:22:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN  described  a contract  directing  that  the  $50                                                               
million [back-up  loan] be  placed in  a third  party, controlled                                                               
investment   account.  He   asked  whether   that  would   be  an                                                               
appropriation the legislature would have to approve.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:22:45 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO said  it would not because AIDEA assets  placed in that                                                               
holding  account would  be AIDEA  funds and  earnings, not  state                                                               
funds.  He explained  that there  are statutes  that clearly  and                                                               
completely  separate AIDEA  funds and  earnings from  state funds                                                               
and state bond ratings.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:23:21 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN  asked how  $50 million was  determined to  be the                                                               
appropriate amount for the back-stop loan.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:23:29 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO  said the $50 million  figure was provided by  AGDC. He                                                               
said  there  was not  yet  a  final  number and  emphasized  that                                                               
AIDEA's liability  would be  limited to the  actual value  of the                                                               
FEED work completed and that could be far less.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:23:55 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN  commented that the  slide indicated the  FEED may                                                               
be considerably less than $50  million and suggested that AIDEA's                                                               
share of risk for the project was low.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:24:19 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL  noted that the  [AIDEA] board authorized  [the $50                                                               
million backstop  loan]. She asked  where the board  members came                                                               
from.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:24:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO  said there  were seven  board members.  Chairman Pruhs                                                               
lived in  Anchorage, Vice-Chair Kendig lived  in [Mat-Su] Valley,                                                               
member  Fogel  lived  in Anchorage,  member  Vivlamore  lived  in                                                               
Fairbanks,  Commissioner Sande  and Commissioner  Crum [locations                                                               
not specified], member Eledge lived in Anchorage.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GIESSEL  stated that  the board  members were  appointed by                                                               
the governor.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. RUARO affirmed that was correct.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GIESSEL   asked  whether  the  legislature   affirmed  the                                                               
appointments.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:25:12 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO said they did not.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:25:17 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL  noted none  of the board  members were  from rural                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. RUARO  affirmed that there  was not currently an  AIDEA board                                                               
member from a rural Alaska region.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:25:27 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL  asked for the  current qualifications to  serve on                                                               
the AIDEA board.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RUARO  said   he  did  not  know  if   there  were  specific                                                               
qualifications   in  statute,   but  that   board  members   with                                                               
experience  in energy,  business,  finance,  etc. were  generally                                                               
sought.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:25:53 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO  moved to slide  21, describing the legal  authority of                                                               
AIDEA to  take action with  its assets and the  strict separation                                                               
of AIDEA assets from state [of Alaska] funds or real property:                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     AUTHORITY OF AIDEA TO                                                                                                    
     COMMIT AIDEA ASSETS                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     • Art. III, sec. 22, of the Alaska Constitution gives                                                                      
        the Legislature  the  authority  to create  separate                                                                    
        entities from the  State of  Alaska and  grant these                                                                    
        entities the  authority to  act  and make  decisions                                                                    
        using their own resources.                                                                                              
      • The ability of the Legislature to create AIDEA and                                                                      
        give it  an existence  separate and  apart from  the                                                                    
        State of  Alaska  and  to  manage  and use  its  own                                                                    
        assets, which are not considered assets of the State                                                                    
        of Alaska, was decided  in favor of  the Legislature                                                                    
        and  AIDEA  in   1962.  DeArmond  v.   Alaska  State                                                                    
        Development Corporation, 376 P.2d 717 (1962)                                                                            
      • AIDEA statutes were rewritten in 1967 to expressly                                                                      
        set out  its  authority  and powers,  including  the                                                                    
        authority  to  contract,  spend,  and  use  its  own                                                                    
        assets.                                                                                                                 
        • AS 44.88.190(a removes AIDEA's funds from the                                                                         
        Executive udget Act, except for the operating budget                                                                    
        AS 44.88.205.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:26:35 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO  moved to and  narrated slide  22. He noted  that AIDEA                                                               
was focused on Phase I of  the pipeline project and reviewed that                                                               
Phase  I included  the pipeline  that  would run  south from  the                                                               
North  Slope  and  provide domestic  gas  only  for  southcentral                                                               
[Alaska]:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     WHY NOW?                                                                                                                 
     WHAT IS DIFFERENT?                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     • Legislature Supports "Working Toward" FEED for Phase                                                                   
        I of a Pipeline Project "It is the further intent of                                                                  
        the legislature  that if  analysis shows  a positive                                                                    
        economic value to the state, all  parties would work                                                                    
        toward Front End Engineering and Design  for Phase I                                                                    
        of a pipeline project."                                                                                                 
       • Wood Mackenzie Report Shows a Positive Economic                                                                      
        Value for Phase I Alaska LNG can predictably deliver                                                                  
        natural gas in  a range between  $8.97 -  $12.80 per                                                                    
        mmbtu; Alaska LNG will  dramatically lower long-term                                                                    
        energy prices; and Alaska  LNG Phase I  will deliver                                                                    
        up to $16 billion in additional economic benefits as                                                                    
        compared to other options.                                                                                              
         • AIDEA Board (After Multiple Meetings) Passes                                                                       
        Resolution G24-17 Board  authorized AIDEA  staff and                                                                  
        the Executive Director to perform  due diligence and                                                                    
        if  satisfied,  to  execute  a  "credit  instrument,                                                                    
        guaranty, or other form of debt issuance" to provide                                                                    
        a backstop and allow FEED to advance.                                                                                   
          • President Trump We are now in a completely                                                                        
        "transactional" trade  world. "If  X,  then Y".  For                                                                    
        Japan, the "X" is a defense  security agreement with                                                                    
        the United States  that does not  change, protection                                                                    
        from China,  and  avoiding  U.S. trade  tariffs.  If                                                                    
        Japan wants "X" then it must give  "Y". What is "Y"?                                                                    
        Y is new  Japanese investment  in the  United States                                                                    
        which  Prime  Minister  Ishiba  said   would  be  $1                                                                    
        trillion dollars. Also, increased LNG purchases from                                                                    
        the U.S., and a joint venture  linked to Alaskan oil                                                                    
        and gas.  (Note:  Since the  meeting,  six (6)  more                                                                    
        countries in Asia have come forward to offer to buy                                                                     
        more LNG from the U.S. to fend off tariffs)                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:28:46 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL  noted  that   the  [Senate  Resources]  Committee                                                               
identified several cost  drivers that were not  considered in the                                                               
Wood MacKenzie (WM) report, including  questions about the source                                                               
of the gas  and that Pantheon alleged they could  produce gas for                                                               
one  dollar per  Mcf. She  asked  whether the  [AIDEA] board  had                                                               
taken all  those issues  into account when  they examined  the WM                                                               
report for credibility.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:29:36 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  RUARO said  AIDEA  looked at  Pantheon's publicly  available                                                               
reports, including gas sales contracts  and well reports and said                                                               
they were satisfied  with the findings, noting  that Pantheon was                                                               
not yet in production, but moving toward that.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:30:12 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL asked  about the pieces missing from  the WM report                                                               
that would have been financial drivers for the cost.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:30:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO asked which items were of concern.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:30:28 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL  said the pipeline  to Fairbanks was  not included;                                                               
the  pipeline  described  by  the  WM report  for  Phase  I  went                                                               
directly  [from the  North Slope]  to  southcentral [Alaska]  and                                                               
would  not, in  fact  supply  [gas to]  Alaska  because it  would                                                               
bypass Fairbanks.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:30:49 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO  said he was aware  of that issue and  noted that there                                                               
were solutions  described in  AIDEA board  meetings. He  said the                                                               
AIDEA board  expressed awareness  and interest and  would support                                                               
gas to  Fairbanks. He said  there were opportunities for  that to                                                               
occur but was not sure he could speak about it.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:31:21 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL expressed  aware  ness of  opportunities and  that                                                               
they would change the calculation of the cost of the gas.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:31:30 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KAWASAKI said  AGDC presented  to  the committee  before                                                               
President  Trump's announcement  [of foreign  interest in  Alaska                                                               
LNG]   and  after.   He  noted   the   characterization  of   the                                                               
announcement as "good news" and asked whether AIDEA had                                                                         
information that legislators did not.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:32:07 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO said  The Japan Times and Japanese  news media reported                                                               
that Japan's interest was secured  by US [commitment to] Japanese                                                               
defense  and  avoiding  25 percent  tariff.  Japan  committed  to                                                               
investing $ one trillion in the  United States and to purchase AK                                                               
liquid natural gas. He offered  to provide the news resources for                                                               
the committee.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:33:02 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO moved to and narrated slide 23:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     WHY NOW?                                                                                                                 
     WHAT IS DIFFERENT? CONTINUED                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
       • Crisis with Gas Supply for Railbelt According to                                                                     
        Enstar at the recent RCA meeting (Jan. 15, 2025) and                                                                    
        in other  meetings,  Alaska  will experience  a  gas                                                                    
        shortage. Enstar  has studied  all project  options,                                                                    
        and has decided to go forward with Glenfarne with an                                                                    
        onshore  import  terminal.  There  is   no  way  for                                                                    
        imported gas or Cook  Inlet gas   likely  to be sold                                                                    
        at a rate near the price for imported gas ($13.72)                                                                      
        to get to the low $2.32 per  mmbtu price that Alaska                                                                    
        LNG could  provide  via a  pipeline.  (Page 8,  AGDC                                                                    
        Presentation, January 28, 2025)                                                                                         
      • Cheap and Clean Gas from Great Bear Publicly filed                                                                    
        information  from   Great   Bear   shows   certified                                                                    
        contingent oil  resources  at  1.6  billion  barrels                                                                    
        (management thinks they can get to  3.5 billion) 6.6                                                                    
        TCF of  gas from  Kodiak, Ahpun,  and Ahpun  Western                                                                    
        Topsets. And separately  a possible  3.3 TCF  of gas                                                                    
        from  the  Magrez-1  Well  and   drilling.  All  gas                                                                    
        available at  up to  500  million cfd  at a  maximum                                                                    
        price of  $1 per  million btu.  20 years.  Gas Sales                                                                    
        Purchase Agreement with AGDC.                                                                                           
        • Gas Suppliers Proceed Without Fiscal Certainty                                                                      
        Current suppliers of gas such as  Great Bear are not                                                                    
        making a  constitutional amendment  or contract  for                                                                    
        "fiscal certainty" on  gas taxes a  precondition for                                                                    
        providing gas.                                                                                                          
        • Prudhoe Oil Loss Declining Yearly Loss of oil                                                                       
        production from Prudhoe as  a result of  gas offtake                                                                    
        for a gas project is significantly reduced each year                                                                    
        by the  passage of  time.  It has  been eight  years                                                                    
        since the  AOGCC decision  by  Cathy Forrester  that                                                                    
        enough oil production  had occurred, and  enough gas                                                                    
        reinjected and available for a gas  project that gas                                                                    
        offtake could occur.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:35:37 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL  noted the assertion  that AOGCC would not  have to                                                               
be involved in the gas off-take from the Pantheon leases.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:35:48 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO  said a hearing with  AOGCC may still be  required, but                                                               
it does not appear that there  would be large volumes of oil lost                                                               
to produce gas.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:36:05 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL  noted her concern  about getting to the  $2.32 per                                                               
MMBtu figure in the last bullet  point on slide 23. She said that                                                               
number  would   require  the  full  [AKLNG]   project,  including                                                               
treatment and export.  She emphasized that was not  what AGDC was                                                               
presenting at this  time. She said the entire  project would cost                                                               
$44  billion,  plus.  She  expressed  concern  about  the  public                                                               
perception of the proposal in  the current presentation, and said                                                               
it was deceptive in her view.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:36:50 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO  said the figures  were from previous  presentations by                                                               
AGDC. He acknowledged  that AIDEA was not involved  in the larger                                                               
scale project.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GIESSEL  emphasized  that  she understood  that,  but  the                                                               
public  may  not understand  that  the  gas prices  quoted  would                                                               
require the entire $44 billion project to be completed.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:37:18 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES  noted that in 2021  AIDEA bid on leases  that had                                                               
become tied  up. She  asked whether there  was interest  by major                                                               
producers  to  explore and  develop  leases  in [Alaska  National                                                               
Wildlife Refuge] ANWR when the leases are no longer in limbo.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:37:54 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  RUARO said  the Biden  administration cancelled  the leases,                                                               
but AIDEA  used the time to  review geologic data and  complete a                                                               
new report,  which indicated significant recoverable  oil and gas                                                               
reserves. He anticipated regaining control  of the leases and was                                                               
optimistic  about   attracting  interest   for  lease   sales  or                                                               
partnerships for  development. He  said AIDEA planned  to conduct                                                               
3D  seismic surveys  to  enhance the  precision  of oil  reserves                                                               
estimation.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:39:11 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES asked  that the committee be kept up  to date with                                                               
developments [in ANWR].                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. RUARO concurred.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:39:22 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI noted  that most of the leases on  shore in ANWR                                                               
had been  taken up by the  state through AIDEA. He  asked whether                                                               
the costs of  performing 3D seismic surveys would be  built in to                                                               
developers' costs.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:40:06 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO  said AIDEA  would seek to  recover all  their expenses                                                               
and more.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:40:15 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL  asked to return to  slide 22. She quoted  from the                                                               
slide "Also, increased  LNG purchases from the U.S.,  and a joint                                                               
venture linked  to Alaskan  oil and gas."  She asked  whether the                                                               
joint venture mentioned  was between the US and  Japan. She asked                                                               
whether the Japan  was somehow engaged in paying for  some of the                                                               
[AKLNG] project.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:40:47 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO said that note in  slide 22 originated with the news in                                                               
Japanese  media.  He  said  he  was  not  aware  of  any  details                                                               
regarding a joint venture.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:41:00 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL  repeated  that these  words  were  from  Japanese                                                               
media.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. RUARO affirmed that they were.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:41:14 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO moved to and narrated slide 25:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     AIDEA SMALL BUSINESS LOANS                                                                                               
     DCCED MANAGED PROGRAMS                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     $1.86 MILLION FUNDED IN FY 2024                                                                                            
     37 JOBS CREATED IN FY 2024                                                                                                 
     $46.3 MILLION APPROVED SINCE INCEPTION                                                                                     
     2,392 JOBS CREATED SINCE INCEPTION                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     RURAL  DEVELOPMENT   INITIATIVE  FUND   (RDIF)  PROGRAM                                                                  
     HIGHLIGHT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     STONY CREEK CANOPY ADVENTURES                                                                                            
     Owner  Mark Wildermuth  describes  their  RDIF loan  as                                                                    
     "the  best  loan I  have  ever  received" praising  its                                                                  
     favorable  terms  and  long-term benefits,  which  made                                                                    
     excellent  business sense.  With the  funding in  hand,                                                                    
     the Wildermuths  launched Denali  Zipline Tours  with a                                                                    
     bang, employing 15 people. The  DCCED, impressed by the                                                                    
     significant impact  of the loan, noted  the exceptional                                                                    
     return  on investment.  Their loan  created 15  Alaskan                                                                    
     jobs, demonstrating  the program's  value to  the state                                                                    
     and its residents.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     SMALL  BUSINESS  ECONOMIC  DEVELOPMENT  (SBED)  PROGRAM                                                                  
     HIGHLIGHT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     ALASKAN OUTLAW ADVENTURES                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Dream of Alaskan Adventure, Now A Reality                                                                                
     Benefiting   from  a   low-interest,  long-term   Small                                                                    
     Business   Economic   Development  Loan   helped   turn                                                                    
     Brandon's childhood dream into  a reality. Funding that                                                                    
     was   made  possible   with   the   SBED  Program   was                                                                    
     instrumental in  his ability to develop  operations and                                                                    
     create local jobs.  The loan not only  helps to provide                                                                    
     exceptional experiences  for visitors but  also ensures                                                                    
     that   local  talent   and   resources  are   utilized,                                                                    
     fostering a thriving local economy.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:41:57 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES asked what percentage of loans through these                                                                     
programs went to Alaskan companies, based on the number and                                                                     
total value.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:42:12 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO said he was not aware of any loan through these                                                                       
programs going to a non-Alaskan company.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:42:21 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES  appreciated that and asked  whether loans through                                                               
other  AIDEA  programs  were awarded  to  Alaska  vs.  non-Alaska                                                               
entities.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:42:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO said he was not  aware of any loans going to non-Alaska                                                               
companies.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:42:47 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES revisited earlier discussion  of jobs. She noted a                                                               
Northern Economics  report on the  return on investment  for jobs                                                               
and a commitment  in a Senate Finance committee  meeting by AIDEA                                                               
to commission a  study. She asked whether the  study was underway                                                               
and when it would be available to the legislature.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:43:13 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO  affirmed that  the study was  underway and  that there                                                               
had been  some delays  due to personnel  turnover in  the company                                                               
that was writing the report.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:43:37 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES  expressed anticipation for the  completed review,                                                               
noting that it was part of AIDEA's mission.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:43:47 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO  moved to  and narrated  slide 26.  He said  these were                                                               
loans for which  banks approached AIDEA asking  for assistance to                                                               
support projects:                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     LOAN PARTICIPATION PROGRAM                                                                                               
     HIGHLIGHTS & REGIONAL DIVERSITY                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     FY2024 PROGRAM HIGHLIGHTS                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     $21.1 M with AIDEA's participation of $18.3 M                                                                              
     60 construction jobs 79 permanent jobs supported                                                                           
     813 loans funded since 1992 with AIDEA's participation                                                                     
     of $1.2 B                                                                                                                  
         11,579 construction jobs since 1992 with 9,998                                                                         
     permanent jobs supported                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
    [Table    illustrating:     Regional    Diversity    of                                                                     
       Participation Loans and Outstanding Balances as of                                                                       
     12.31.2024]                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:44:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO moved to and narrated slide 27:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     ALASKA WILDBIRCH HOTEL                                                                                                   
     Downtown Anchorage                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Project Highlights:                                                                                                      
     • 70 percent AIDEA Participation                                                                                           
     • 147 Construction Jobs                                                                                                    
     • 245 New Jobs                                                                                                             
     • $25 million AIDEA Funding Commitment                                                                                     
     • Loan Closing in Early 2025                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Slated to  open in the spring  of 2025 in the  heart of                                                                    
     Anchorage's  downtown Mushing  District, The  Wildbirch                                                                    
     Hotel  will  usher   in  a  new  era   for  the  city's                                                                    
     hospitality  scene  as  its first  Hyatt  JdV  boutique                                                                    
     property and  the most significant lodging  addition in                                                                    
     two decades.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     "When you work  with AIDEA, it's not  just another bank                                                                    
     loan.  Our   efforts  to  redevelop   downtown  matched                                                                    
     AIDEA's goal of  economic revitalization, job creation,                                                                  
     and  making  downtown  Anchorage  a  better  place  for                                                                    
     tourists and  locals alike. We  are grateful  AIDEA was                                                                    
     willing to work  with us to make the  Wildbirch Hotel a                                                                    
     reality and improve  downtown Anchorage for generations                                                                    
     to come." - Former U.S. Senator Mark Begich                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:45:00 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO moved to and narrated slide 28:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SUN MOUNTAIN DEVELOPMENT                                                                                                 
     Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Project Highlights:                                                                                                      
     • 90 percent AIDEA Participation                                                                                           
     • 554 Construction Jobs                                                                                                    
     • 284 Permanent Jobs                                                                                                       
     • Over $15 million in AIDEA Funding                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Sun  Mountain   is  site  condominium  project   and  a                                                                    
     significant  development  in  the  retail  sector.  The                                                                    
     Shoppes  at  Sun  Mountain are  located  on  the  Parks                                                                    
     Highway.  The development  opened in  August 2019,  and                                                                    
     has  since attracted  small  businesses, larger  Alaska                                                                    
     companies, and national franchises.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:45:23 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN asked for clarification of "90 percent AIDEA                                                                     
Participation" noted on slide 28. He asked for a comparison with                                                                
the bank participation.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:45:37 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO said 90 percent meant the bank provided ten percent of                                                                
the loan and AIDEA provided 90 percent of the loan at the banks                                                                 
request.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:45:53 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN concluded from slide 27 the downtown [Wildbirch]                                                                 
hotel project received 30 percent bank funding and 70 percent                                                                   
AIDEA funding.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. RUARO affirmed his observation.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:46:07 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO moved to and narrated slide 29:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     GOLDEN HEART WASTE MANAGEMENT                                                                                            
     Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Project Highlights:                                                                                                      
     • 90 percent AIDEA Participation                                                                                           
     • 10 New Jobs                                                                                                              
     • 12 Jobs Retained                                                                                                         
     • $3.6 Million Loan Funding Commitment                                                                                     
     • Closing in early 2025                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     With  services  that  extend beyond  Fairbanks,  Golden                                                                    
     Heart Waste Management has been  covering areas such as                                                                    
     Delta  Junction, Tok,  Ft. Greely,  and Coldfoot  since                                                                    
     2019. This  investment not  only strengthens  the local                                                                    
     economy   but  also   underscores  the   importance  of                                                                    
     supporting  environmentally   conscious  businesses  in                                                                    
     Alaska.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:46:33 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  RUARO  moved   to  and  narrated  slide  31   and  said  the                                                               
presentation  was shifting  away from  [AIDEA] loan  programs and                                                               
projects to resource development projects:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     DELONG MOUNTAIN TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM                                                                                    
     RED DOG MINE (NORTHWEST ARCTIC BOROUGH)                                                                                    
     AIDEA-owned asset.                                                                                                         
     In 1985, Alaska Legislature,  Governor, and AIDEA agree                                                                    
     some  public  support is  needed  to  make Red  Dog  go                                                                    
     forward. After  many hearings,  SB 279  and SB  280 are                                                                    
     passed by the Legislature and signed into law.                                                                             
     In 1986,  AIDEA funds  mine, road,  and port  with $160                                                                    
     million.                                                                                                                   
     AIDEA  keeps mine  operating in  1990's by  funding $85                                                                    
     million for expansion.                                                                                                     
     Project provides significant economic benefits.                                                                            
     Project  continues to  yield significant  dividends for                                                                    
     NANA (royalty  of $255 million  in 2021 and  shares ~60                                                                    
     percent   of   the    royalty   with   other   Regional                                                                    
     Corporations).                                                                                                             
     Future  opportunities  also exist  (Aktigiruq  prospect                                                                    
     could be  one of the largest  undeveloped zinc deposits                                                                    
     in the world).                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Benefits from AIDEA's Investment to the NWAB Economy                                                                     
        Tax Revenue (thru '18) $1.3 Billion                                                                                     
        NWAB PILT (thru '21) $269 Million                                                                                       
        7(i) Payments (through '21) $1.6 Billion                                                                                
        FY20 Employment 1,500 Jobs                                                                                              
        FY20 Wages $120 million                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:47:18 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI  noted that  AIDEA owned the  road and  the port                                                               
[at the Red  Dog Mine]. He asked what would  happen with the road                                                               
and the port when the mining company chose to leave.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:47:31 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  RUARO  said  AIDEA  was   diving  into  the  different  land                                                               
ownership  agreements [regarding  the road].  He said  there were                                                               
agreements  prior   to  AIDEA   required  different   parties  to                                                               
remediate  the road.  The large  tailings pond  [remediation] and                                                               
other  environmental work  that would  be needed  after the  mine                                                               
closes will require  that the road stay in place  to allow access                                                               
for environmental remediation activity.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:48:15 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI noted that private  mines own the responsibility                                                               
for [decommissioning,  remediation and reclamation] DR  and R. He                                                               
asked whether  the state  owned that  responsibility for  the Red                                                               
Dog Mine and where that was spelled out.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:48:38 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  RUARO said  the obligation  to remediate  the mine  remained                                                               
with NANA  and Teck. The mine  is on NANA land  and Teck operates                                                               
the mine. He  said two-thirds of the road is  on Cape Krusenstern                                                               
[National  Park]  land.  He  said  agreements  with  the  federal                                                               
government require  NANA and  Teck to remediate  the road  if and                                                               
when it  becomes advisable  to take the  road out.  He reiterated                                                               
that the  tailings pond would require  monitoring and maintenance                                                               
for some time to come.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:49:24 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO  moved to slide 32.  He said AIDEA had  seven leases in                                                               
ANWR and  asserted that they had  a valid right to  those leases.                                                               
He said  the Trump  administration issued  an executive  order to                                                               
transfer the leases back to  AIDEA. When the leases are returned,                                                               
AIDEA will  move forward with  3D seismic surveys to  obtain data                                                               
necessary to develop or sell the leases:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     ARCTIC NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE                                                                                          
     SECTION 1002                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
              [Arctic National Wildlife Refuge Map                                                                              
                       ANWR Map - Plate 1                                                                                       
      Map prepared at the request of the Senate Energy and                                                                      
            Natural Resources Committee 10/24/2017]                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
      "Kaktovik is the only community in the 1002 Coastal                                                                       
     Plain . . . We are not an exhibit in a museum. Nor is                                                                      
       the land that we have survived and thrived on for                                                                        
      centuries to be locked away for the peace of mind of                                                                      
       those from faraway places. This school of thought                                                                        
      amounts to nothing more than green colonialism land-                                                                      
           grabbing in the name of the environment."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
        from the testimony by Fenton Rexford of Kaktovik                                                                        
      before the House Resource Committee, March 6, 2019,                                                                       
                            1:57 p.m                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     SECTION 1002 AREA LEASES                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     In 2017, Congress  passed the "Tax Cuts  and Jobs Act,"                                                                    
     which directed the Department of  the Interior (DOI) to                                                                    
     establish and manage a competitive  oil and gas leasing                                                                    
     program in the Arctic  National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR).                                                                    
     The Coastal Plain, often referred  to as the 1002 Area,                                                                    
     comprises 1.56 million acres  within the 19.64 million-                                                                    
     acre ANWR. AIDEA's leases cover 0.37 acres.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Development   of   the   1002   Coastal   Plain   holds                                                                    
     significant  potential for  economic growth.  According                                                                    
     to   the   Final  Supplemental   Environmental   Impact                                                                    
     Statement   (SEIS),  leasing   and  development   could                                                                    
     generate  billions of  dollars  in  revenue for  local,                                                                    
     state,   and   federal   governments   while   creating                                                                    
     thousands of jobs.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:49:58 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO moved to and narrated slide 33:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     ARCTIC NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE                                                                                          
     SECTION 1002                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     ESTIMATED   STATE  ANNUAL   TAX  AND   ROYALTY  REVENUE                                                                  
     $2,002,000,000                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     [Tables  comparing  current   government  revenue  from                                                                    
     taxes and  royalties with  projected revenues  and jobs                                                                    
     resulting from ANWR oil and gas development.]                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Table  C-8 of  the Coastal  Plain Oil  and Gas  Leasing                                                                    
     Program   Final   Supplemental   Environmental   Impact                                                                    
     Statemen, Volume 3t.  (Source: Northern Economics, Inc.                                                                    
     2023  estimates  based on  IMPLAN  2021  data year  and                                                                    
     assumptions  listed in  Section 3.4.10  Economy of  the                                                                    
     Supplemental  EIS for  the Coastal  Plain  Oil and  Gas                                                                    
     Leasing Program.)                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
        RECOVERABLE OIL ON AIDEA LEASES HAS AN ESTIMATED                                                                      
     VOLUME OF 4 TO 6 BILLION BARRELS                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:50:35 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO moved  to and narrated slide 34. He  explained that the                                                               
Ambler  Access  Project  was  a   road  into  the  Ambler  mining                                                               
district, an area known to  have rich deposits and which Congress                                                               
in 1980  said Alaska  should be  allowed to  access. He  said the                                                               
Trump  administration issued  an executive  order similar  to the                                                               
one for ANWR to issue the Ambler right of way:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     AMBLER ACCESS PROJECT                                                                                                    
     ACCESS TO OPPORTUNITIES                                                                                                    
     DENIED BY BIDEN ADMINISTRATION                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     ESTIMATED TOTAL TAX AND ROYALTY REVENUE $1,144,785,127                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     [Map of the proposed Ambler Access Project with color-                                                                   
       coded sections illustrating the estimated value of                                                                       
                         extractions.]                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
       This 211-mile road project will provide access to                                                                      
      almost 600,000 acres of active State mining claims.                                                                     
       Starting from the Dalton Highway, it would stretch                                                                     
            east towards the Ambler Mining District.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Potential Benefits                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Mine Construction                                                                                                        
         • 2,777 direct jobs with $286 million in wages                                                                         
        annually                                                                                                                
     • 2,034 additional indirect and induced jobs with $108                                                                     
        million in wages annually                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Mining Operations                                                                                                        
     • 495 direct jobs with $72 million in wages annually                                                                       
     • 3,436 additional indirect and induced jobs with $228                                                                     
        million in wages annually                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Road Construction and Operations                                                                                         
      • An annual average of 360 direct jobs over the road                                                                      
        construction period                                                                                                     
     • Up to 81 direct annual jobs for road operations and                                                                      
        maintenance over the life of the road                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Government Revenue Generation                                                                                            
     • $393 million in mining license tax revenues                                                                              
     • $524 million in corporate income taxes                                                                                   
     • $214 million in production royalties                                                                                     
     • $13 million in claim rents                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                   Source: UAA CED (Page 17)                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:51:26 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL noted  that the  [Ambler Acces]  right of  way was                                                               
through the Gates of the Arctic National Park and Preserve.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. RUARO concurred and said part  of the right of way was Bureau                                                               
of Land Management (BLM) general land in PLO 5150.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:51:48 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  RUARO  moved to  slide  35.  He  said [Ambler  area  village                                                               
elders]  were  acknowledging  the   issues  and  questions  about                                                               
building mines  and roads  but were  asking their  tribal members                                                               
what would happen  to their communities if they  don't [build the                                                               
road]. He  said the  communities were  losing their  residents to                                                               
Fairbanks:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     AMBLER ACCESS PROJECT                                                                                                    
     ACCESS TO OPPORTUNITIES                                                                                                    
     DENIED BY BIDEN ADMINISTRATION                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
           "If not resource development, then what?"                                                                          
                  -Fred Sun, Tribal President                                                                                 
                   Native Village of Shungnak                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:52:32 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN  noted  slide  33  included  estimates  based  on                                                               
federal information  about expected taxes and  expected resources                                                               
[in   ANWR].  He   asked  whether   there  was   similar  federal                                                               
information about the Ambler Access Project.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:53:01 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO  said there was a  report that was not  embedded in the                                                               
presentation, but that he could provide for the committee.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:53:12 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI asked whether the  relatively new Mahn Cho mine,                                                               
owned by Kinross and located  between Tok and Fairbanks, received                                                               
[financial] help from AIDEA.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:53:36 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO said no.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KAWASAKI  asked whether Fort Knox,  another Kinross mine,                                                               
required [support] from AIDEA.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:53:57 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO said, to his knowledge it did not.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:54:07 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KAWASAKI  asked  why bigger  projects  like  the  Ambler                                                               
Access Project, required state help when other projects did not.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:54:17 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  RUARO said  the initial  state involvement  with the  Ambler                                                               
Road  came  through  the 1980  [Alaska  National  Interest  Lands                                                               
Conservation Act]  (ANILCA). The  state was  granted right-of-way                                                               
and funds  were granted specifically  for Ambler Access  with the                                                               
purpose   of   reaching   resources.  He   said   Department   of                                                               
Transportation  and  Public  Facilities (DOTPF)  pursued  it  for                                                               
several years before transitioning it to AIDEA.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:54:51 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KAWASAKI  recalled  a  figure  close  to  eight  million                                                               
dollars for DOTPF [to develop  the Ambler Road] compared with the                                                               
currently estimated half-billion-dollar project.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:55:03 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO affirmed the current estimate.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:55:07 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR   KAWASAKI   asked   whether  the   companies   currently                                                               
interested [in  building roads and  developing mines]  and asking                                                               
for AIDEA assistance would be  responsible for building, managing                                                               
and maintaining the roads or if AIDEA would be.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:55:27 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO  said AIDEA  anticipated using the  Red Dog  model. The                                                               
mine would  pay for  the road  and for  the road  maintenance. He                                                               
said AIDEA could  own all or part  of the asset but  would not be                                                               
involved in  either maintenance or  paying for the road.  He said                                                               
AIDEA may issue bonds.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:55:49 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI asked  what would happen if AIDEA  were to issue                                                               
bonds and the project was less economic than projected.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:56:05 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  RUARO said  AIDEA  would  not proceed  until  the mines  are                                                               
secure enough to  be able to pay  for the road. He  said the mine                                                               
would have to complete some  additional drilling to determine its                                                               
security.  He  said  there was  a  preliminary  bornite  economic                                                               
analysis recently  completed that showed large  amounts of copper                                                               
and  was very  positive  for  the economics  of  the project.  He                                                               
offered to share the link to the study.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:56:42 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI  asked whether  the Pebble  Mine had  ever asked                                                               
for support from AIDEA.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:56:55 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO said no.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:57:01 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN  echoed the concerns  expressed. He  mentioned the                                                               
Kennicott  mine and  noted that  they did  not ask  for financial                                                               
assistance to build a road or  a railroad. He invoked the analogy                                                               
of getting the cart before the  horse and suggested that it would                                                               
be  prudent  to  wait  until  a  mine  comes  forward  with  high                                                               
confidence before building a road.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:58:29 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  RUARO  said economic  analyses  and  drill results  for  the                                                               
arctic mine  establish that there  are 13  years of mine  life at                                                               
that site.  The bornite  preliminary economic  analysis indicates                                                               
another 20 to  25 years of mine  life. He said there is  a lot of                                                               
geologic  information   supporting  continuing   prospecting.  He                                                               
offered  to  provide  a  summary  of  relevant  reports  for  the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:59:41 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL  affirmed that the  Ambler mining project  area was                                                               
well-documented  to   have  significant  assets.  She   said  the                                                               
Kennicott project was well before  AIDEA existed and was built by                                                               
millionaires that owned railroads in the lower 48.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:00:04 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO moved  to slide 36. He explained that  this was another                                                               
proposed road to  mineral resources and mines,  opening access to                                                               
recreation along the way:                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     West Susitna Access Project                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Project update at the Skwentna Roadhouse                                                                                 
     June 2024                                                                                                                
     Project supporters  met to share an  informative update                                                                    
     and great discussion with local  property owners in the                                                                    
     project area at a gathering at the Skwentna Lodge.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     [Photo as described.]                                                                                                      
     From left  to right: Representative Kevin  McCabe, Todd                                                                    
     Smoldon, Dana Pruhs, Robyn  Reyes, Senator Mike Shower,                                                                    
     Randy  Ruaro,   Logan  Boyce,  Andrew   Traxler,  Josie                                                                    
     Wilson,  Kurt Parkan,  Hans  Hoffman,  Mike Brown,  and                                                                    
     Cindi Herman (top)                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     The  West  Susitna  Access  Project   is  more  than  a                                                                    
     transportation  initiative    it  is  a cornerstone  of                                                                    
     Alaska's future prosperity.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     [Map illustrating the West Susitna Access Project.]                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                          AIDEA West Susitna Access Project:                                                                  
                                      https://bit.ly/WSAPdev                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     This  78-mile   road  project   is  located   north  of                                                                    
     Anchorage and  west of Wasilla and  will provide access                                                                    
     to many desired resources.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Potential Benefits                                                                                                       
        • Gold, copper, silver, coal, antimony, and other                                                                       
          mineral resources.                                                                                                    
        • Opportunities   for    clean   energy,   including                                                                    
          geothermal, solar, wind, carbon capture and                                                                           
          sequestration, and biomass resources.                                                                                 
        • More than 700,000 acres [of forest] available for                                                                     
          harvest.                                                                                                              
        • Active energy exploration in the areas of the                                                                         
          Susitna River, including Upper Cook Inlet, where                                                                      
          active oil and gas producing fields exist in the                                                                      
          study area.                                                                                                           
        • More than 65,000 acres of land has been                                                                               
          identified for potential agricultural uses.                                                                           
        • Many   opportunities   for   recreational   access                                                                    
          including    snowmachining,   fishing,    hunting,                                                                    
          boating, recreational mining, and use of cabins.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:00:39 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KAWASAKI asked  whether publicly  funded roads  like the                                                               
West Susitna Road and the Ambler  Road would be accessible to the                                                               
public after development by AIDEA.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:01:02 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RUARO said the Ambler Road  was intended to be limited access                                                               
for  industrial  haul, though  medi-vacs  and  commercial use  by                                                               
local  communities would  proceed.  The West  Susitna Road  would                                                               
allow broader access by the public for recreation.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:01:37 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  RUARO moved  to and  narrated slide  38. He  said AIDEA  was                                                               
following current trends and looking  for opportunities to invest                                                               
in  data  centers,  etc.  He   expressed  optimism  about  future                                                               
investment returns:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     AIDEA  NEW ISSUES                                                                                                        
     AND OPPORTUNITIES Tech sector, Artificial Intelligence (AI) Data                                                                      
          Centers Chemical production from natural gas (Alyeschem,                                                                    
          etc.) Critical    mineral/ore     production    refining                                                                  
          (Antimony, etc.)                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:03:58 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL  said Cordova  Electric Cooperative  (CEC) recently                                                               
presented  to  the  Resources  Committee.  They  maximized  their                                                               
energy production and invited a  data center to their system. She                                                               
noted CEC did this without AIDEA's assistance.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:04:39 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair Giessel  adjourned the Senate Resources  Standing Committee                                                               
meeting at 5:04 p.m.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                

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02.14.25 AIDEA Presentation Senate Resource Committee.pdf SRES 2/14/2025 3:30:00 PM