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01/24/2025 03:30 PM Senate RESOURCES

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03:30:09 PM Start
03:31:02 PM Presentation(s): 2025 Enstar Natural Gas Update
04:08:11 PM Presentation(s): Alaska Energy Authority (aea) Progress Update
04:57:40 PM Adjourn
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+ Presentation: Enstar: Natural Gas Update TELECONFERENCED
John Sims - President, Enstar Natural Gas
Presentation: Alaska Energy Authority: Alaska
Energy Update
Curtis Thayer - Executive Director, Alaska Energy
Authority
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                        January 24, 2025                                                                                        
                           3:30 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
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MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Cathy Giessel, Chair                                                                                                    
Senator Bill Wielechowski, Vice Chair (via teleconference)                                                                      
Senator Matt Claman                                                                                                             
Senator Forrest Dunbar                                                                                                          
Senator Scott Kawasaki                                                                                                          
Senator Shelley Hughes                                                                                                          
Senator Robert Myers                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
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COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S): 2025 ENSTAR NATURAL GAS UPDATE                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
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PRESENTATION(S): ALASKA ENERGY AUTHORITY (AEA) PROGRESS UPDATE                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
JOHN SIMS, President                                                                                                            
ENSTAR Natural Gas Company                                                                                                      
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented the 2025 ENSTAR Update.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CURTIS THAYER, Executive Director                                                                                               
Alaska Energy Authority                                                                                                         
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented the Alaska Energy Authority (AEA)                                                               
Progress Update.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     3:30:09 PM                                                                                                               
     CHAIR  GIESSEL called  the  Senate  Resources Standing  Committee                                                          
     meeting to order  at 3:30 p.m. Present at the  call to order were                                                          
     Senators  Dunbar, Myers,  Claman, Kawasaki,  Hughes, Wielechowski                                                          
     (via teleconference) and Chair Giessel.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ^PRESENTATION(S): 2025 ENSTAR NATURAL GAS UPDATE                                                                           
              PRESENTATION(S): 2025 ENSTAR NATURAL GAS UPDATE                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     3:31:02 PM                                                                                                               
     CHAIR GIESSEL introduced a presentation  by ENSTAR President John                                                          
     Sims titled 2025 ENSTAR Update.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     3:31:15 PM                                                                                                               
     JOHN  SIMS, President,  ENSTAR  Natural  Gas Company,  Anchorage,                                                          
     Alaska, introduced himself and said  he was also the President of                                                          
     Cook  Inlet Natural  Gas  Storage Alaska  (CINGSA).  He moved  to                                                          
     slide 1 and said the presentation  would be an update on the last                                                          
     24 months  from ENSTARs perspective  of gas supplying  Cook Inlet                                                          
     and   on  the   recently  announced   exclusive  agreement   with                                                          
     Glenfarne.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     3:31:51 PM                                                                                                               
     MR. SIMS  moved to slide  2 and  highlighted the unique  duty and                                                          
     responsibility of the utility.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     [Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          Utility Duty to Serve                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
          This duty is not shared by producers, IPPs, or anyone                                                                 
          else in this state. It is our obligation alone.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          Sec.  42.05.291. Standards  of service  and facilities.                                                               
          (a)  Each public  utility  shall  furnish and  maintain                                                               
          adequate, efficient,  and safe service  and facilities.                                                               
          This  service   shall  be  reasonably   continuous  and                                                               
          without unreasonable interruption or delay.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     3:32:45 PM                                                                                                               
     MR. SIMS moved to slide 3.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     [Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Establishing the Path Forward                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
     April 2022: Hilcorp Announcement                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     •    Creation  of  the  Utility Working  Group  ENSTAR,                                                                    
     Chugach   [Electric   Association  (CEA)],   [Matanuska                                                                    
     Electric    Association]     MEA,    [Homer    Electric                                                                    
     Association] HEA, [Golden  Valley Electric Association]                                                                    
     GVEA, [Interior Alaska Natural Gas Utility] IGU                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
MR.  SIMS  noted  the  Utility Working  Group  included  all  the                                                               
utilities  and began  the work  of evaluating  potential projects                                                               
that could meet the needs of  utilities for natural gas along the                                                               
railbelt.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
     February  2023:  Approval  of the  creation  of  a  Reg                                                                  
     Asset,  "we   grant  ENSTAR  authority  to   defer  all                                                                    
     necessary  and   prudent  third-party   costs  incurred                                                                    
     during  its  participation  in the  multiparty  working                                                                    
     group for studying and  securing long-term gas supplies                                                                    
     in the Cook Inlet."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. SIMS said this mechanism  was critical to ensure the recovery                                                               
of costs  specifically related to  the project and  necessary for                                                               
the  work  to   proceed.  He  said  ENSTAR   spent  $4.4  million                                                               
evaluating and analyzing projects over the past 24 months.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     June 28,  2023: [Berkeley Research Group]  BRG & ENSTAR                                                                  
     presented  our key  options  to  the commission,  which                                                                    
     included the  Floating Storage Regas Unit  (FSRU) and a                                                                    
     variety of other [liquid natural gas] LNG solutions.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. SIMS  said this was  the first step toward  identifying which                                                               
projects could meet  the [LNG] needs and what  the estimated cost                                                               
would be to meet those needs.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:34:48 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SIMS  moved to slide  4 and discussed the  evaluation process                                                               
for each project proposal.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Assessment of Options                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     June 2023 - December 2024:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
          Over 30 [Confidentiality Agreements] CAs and [Non-                                                                
          Disclosure Agreements] NDAs signed                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
          For each proposal:                                                                                                  
          •    Does it make operational sense?                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     3:35:06 PM                                                                                                               
     MR.  SIMS  said  the  point  was to  look  at  each  proposal  to                                                          
     determine whether  it would meet  the needs of the  utilities and                                                          
     to operate on  the existing system or require that  the system be                                                          
     boosted up.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
          For each entity:                                                                                                    
           •   Are they fit? Are they able?                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     MR.  SIMS emphasized  that the  evaluation process  was long  and                                                          
     drawn  out  to be  sure  that  the  projects being  pitched  were                                                          
     something  that  made  sense  and  that  the  entity  making  the                                                          
     proposal would  be a good  partner and  could be trusted  to move                                                          
     forward as a developer.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     3:36:06 PM                                                                                                               
     MR.  SIMS  said  each  utility   had  a  different  timeline  for                                                          
     [contract]  expiration  from  Cook   Inlet  gas.  Homer  Electric                                                          
     (HEA)'s contract  with Hilcorp expired  in 2024 and HEA  became a                                                          
     customer of  ENSTAR April 1,  2024. Matanuska's  contract expires                                                          
     in  2028  and  they  have  no  gas  supplies  lined  up,  to  his                                                          
     knowledge. He noted  that Chugach Electric also  expires in 2028.                                                          
     He said ENSTAR's  contract with Hilcorp expires in  2023. He said                                                          
     it  was first  and  foremost to  determine  whether the  proposed                                                          
     projects could meet the timeline of the utilities.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          BRG created a prioritized system of scoring different                                                                 
          options with guidance from the Utility Working Group.                                                                 
          Options were scored based on ten criteria.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
          Uniformly, the top three criteria received the highest                                                                
          priority scores.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
               1.   Schedule Risk                                                                                               
               2.   Reliability of supply during operations                                                                     
               3.   Delivered cost of supply per Mcf                                                                            
               4.   Flexibility/Scalability                                                                                     
               5.   Project Complexity                                                                                          
               6.   Permitting                                                                                                  
               7.   Environmental impact                                                                                        
          8.   Size of direct investment by utilities                                                                           
          9.   Local economic impact                                                                                            
          10. Carbon efficiency                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:37:29 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SIMS  moved to  slide 5, titled  Cook Inlet  Gas Negotiations                                                               
and said  while ENSTAR was  reviewing the projects  and entities,                                                               
they were also  negotiating with Cook Inlet  producers to procure                                                               
gas  from Cook  Inlet.  He noted  that,  because ENSTAR's  system                                                               
surrounds  Cook Inlet,  from a  cost  perspective, providing  gas                                                               
from the Inlet made sense.  Slide 5 contains a table illustrating                                                               
the  details of  a contract  between ENSTAR  and Furie  submitted                                                               
December 31, 2024:                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Year           Volume                   Price                                                                               
2026           3  BcF    with royalty relief, $12.30 per McF                                                                    
                         without royalty relief, $13.69 per McF                                                                 
2027           9.5   BcF           No price specified                                                                           
2028           10.77 BcF           No price specified                                                                           
2029           9.12  BcF           No price specified                                                                           
2030           7.2   BcF           No price specified                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SIMS  said   ENSTAR  and  the  Cook   Inlet  producers  were                                                               
optimistic  that  Department  of Natural  Resources  (DNR)  would                                                               
approve the  contract. He said  the prices for 2027  through 2030                                                               
were not specified because they  would be driven by inflation. He                                                               
said [inflation  increase] was capped  at 1.5 percent,  and there                                                               
was potential for deflation in the economy.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. SIMS pointed  out that the contract begins in  2026 and there                                                               
are significant [LNG] needs in 2025  that are not yet filled, for                                                               
example, Homer Electric  Association (HEA) would be  served on an                                                               
interruptible basis  beginning April 1, 2025.  ENSTAR was working                                                               
on HEA's behalf to secure gas.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:39:19 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  SIMS  moved to  slide  6  [Cook  Inlet Natural  Gas  Storage                                                               
Alaska] CINGSA - Well Side photos,  and said ENSTAR worked on the                                                               
CINGSA  expansion  over the  past  24  months. He  explained  the                                                               
photos  were  of a  small  storage  facility  run by  ENSTAR,  in                                                               
partnership  with [Cook  Inlet  Region  Incorporated] (CIRI)  and                                                               
Northern  Natural [Gas].  The site  was  originally developed  in                                                               
2012 according to the needs  at that time. Current expansion work                                                               
will  increase   the  facility's   capacity  by  2   BcF  through                                                               
additional  compression  and  the  drilling of  wells  6  and  7,                                                               
totaling seven  wells. He said  the expansion aims to  deliver 65                                                               
million cubic feet per day  in winter, ensuring pipeline pressure                                                               
     and  [ability   to  provide]   customer  service.   The  project,                                                          
     initially budgeted  at $72 million,  was estimated at $67  to $68                                                          
     million  due  to cost-reducing  measures.  He  reported that  the                                                          
     perforation  of wells  6 and  7  was scheduled  for the  upcoming                                                          
     week.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     3:40:58 PM                                                                                                               
     MR. SIMS moved  to slide 7, photos of a  large crane moving heavy                                                          
     equipment. He said the crane was  one of the largest on the Kenai                                                          
     Peninsula and that  it cost $60,000 per day to  use. He explained                                                          
     that supply chain  shortages led ENSTAR to hold  the crane unused                                                          
     at high cost to prevent losing access  to it. He said the lack of                                                          
     resources  and  services are  an  unfortunate  reality for  [Cook                                                          
     Inlet] projects.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     3:41:47 PM                                                                                                               
     CHAIR GIESSEL emphasized that services  in Cook Inlet are limited                                                          
     for things [like the large crane].                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     3:41:55 PM                                                                                                               
     MR. SIMS concurred.  He said the current project  was impacted by                                                          
     the  limited services,  not only  with  the crane  but also  with                                                          
     [drilling] rig availability.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     3:42:12 PM                                                                                                               
     MR. SIMS  moved to  slide 8, Gas  Supply Communications.  Slide 8                                                          
     included  screenshots  of slides  from  a  Department of  Natural                                                          
     Resources  (DNR) presentation  to the  House Resources  Committee                                                          
     and  a Wood  MacKenzie presentation.  He said,  while ENSTAR  was                                                          
     evaluating   import  projects,   negotiating   with  Cook   Inlet                                                          
     producers and  expanding CINGSA,  they were also  doing a  lot of                                                          
     listening.  He  emphasized  that  all  the  public  presentations                                                          
     offered by different  entities point to the fact  that Cook Inlet                                                          
     gas  will run  short  of  the total  demand.  He  noted the  Wood                                                          
     MacKenzie  slide  bullet  point   communicating  a  nine  percent                                                          
     success  rate.  He said  there  have  been 34  exploration  wells                                                          
     drilled  in Cook  Inlet  over  the past  15  years,  with a  nine                                                          
     percent  success rate.  He said  these facts  reinforce the  idea                                                          
     that  importing  LNG to  Alaska  is  an appropriate  and  prudent                                                          
     measure to serve their customers.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     3:43:48 PM                                                                                                               
     MR. SIMS moved  to slide 9 and discussed  the public announcement                                                          
     on January 8, 2025 of  the Glenfarne agreement signed in December                                                          
     2024. He said  the agreement was the culmination of  24 months of                                                          
     intense  internal discussions  and work.  He noted  the agreement                                                          
     allowed for the  use of the Glenfarne name without  fear of legal                                                          
action, but there  were still many details to be  worked out. The                                                               
exclusivity  agreement  involves  a   period  of  mutual  project                                                               
development aimed  at reaching a joint  development agreement. He                                                               
said the  project's timeline would accommodate  the various needs                                                               
of the utilities  starting in 2028, with a goal  of completion by                                                               
2029 or  2030. He said  specific details  will be available  in a                                                               
few  months.  He  expressed  pride in  the  partnership  and  the                                                               
ability  to  share  the  project  publicly  but  emphasized  that                                                               
specific decisions had not been made.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Glenfarne & ENSTAR                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
     December 16, 2024:                                                                                                       
     Exclusivity Agreement signed between Glenfarne Group,                                                                      
     LLC and ENSTAR                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     •    What is it?                                                                                                           
     •    What it means                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     January 8, 2025:                                                                                                         
     Agreement went public                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:46:11 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  CLAMAN  asked  whether the  public  disclosure  was  the                                                               
result of  someone making  it public  when they  weren't supposed                                                               
to, or of a mutual decision between ENSTAR and Glenfarne.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:46:27 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SIMS explained that the information  had to go public and the                                                               
                                                  th                                                                            
legislature had to  be informed, but the January 8   announcement                                                               
was  not planned.  He discussed  the challenge  of balancing  the                                                               
various perspectives and  the need for information  with the need                                                               
for  time and  confidentiality  to work  through  details of  the                                                               
agreement. He  expressed pride in  the decision by  Glenfarne and                                                               
ENSTAR to disclose information about their efforts.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:48:04 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL noted  that Glenfarne was also  working with Alaska                                                               
Gasline Development  Corporation (AGDC). She asked  whether there                                                               
was conflict of  interest for Glenfarne to work  on two different                                                               
projects related to the same topic.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:48:20 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SIMS  said he did not  think a conflict of  interest existed.                                                               
He said ENSTAR  clarified, from the utility  perspective, that it                                                               
     was important  for ENSTAR to  have control and confidence  that a                                                          
     project can be developed and that  it would be independent of the                                                          
     Alaska [liquid  natural gas] LNG  project. He  expressed optimism                                                          
     and enthusiasm  about the potential  for the Alaska  LNG pipeline                                                          
     project, however he emphasized the  importance of maintaining the                                                          
     independence of the Glenfarne-ENSTAR project.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     3:49:38 PM                                                                                                               
     MR. SIMS  moved to slide  10. Slide 10 includes  a photorealistic                                                          
     rendering of the plans for the Alaska LNG export site.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     [Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          Import Terminal Facilities                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
             1. Cost-Effective optimized project                                                                                
             2. Aligned long-term infrastructure vision                                                                         
             3. Reliable gas supply                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     MR.  SIMS  highlighted the  challenge  of  obtaining permits  and                                                          
     explained that the project proposed  by Glenfarne would offer the                                                          
     opportunity  to  leverage the  existing  permits  for the  Alaska                                                          
     liquid natural gas (AK LNG)  project's export site. He noted that                                                          
     the Glenfarne proposal would impose  a small utility footprint on                                                          
     the site.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     MR.  SIMS  stated that  the  multiple  permits required  for  the                                                          
     Glenfarne project  were one  of the reasons  it was  difficult to                                                          
     determine the time and costs necessary to move forward.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     3:51:26 PM                                                                                                               
     SENATOR  MYERS  asked  whether   a  LNG  facility  would  require                                                          
     approval  from   the  U.S.  Maritime   Department.  He   said  he                                                          
     understood that approval  [of the LNG project]  would require the                                                          
     state to  have a  Coastal Zone Management  Plan, which,  he said,                                                          
     the state  does not  currently have. He  asked whether  ENSTAR or                                                          
     Glenfarne had investigated that.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     3:52:03 PM                                                                                                               
     MR. SIMS said  that is one of the many  challenges ahead for this                                                          
     project. He  said he could not  speak to it directly,  but he was                                                          
     aware of future challenges and future permitting needs.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     3:52:51 PM                                                                                                               
     MR. SIMS moved to slide 11.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          [Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Highlighting the benefits at the Alaska LNG Site                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        1. Enhanced permitting and construction timeline                                                                        
         reduced                                                                                                                
      2. Cost-effective gas supply                                                                                              
     3. Increased reliability with reduced mooring and ice                                                                      
         challenges                                                                                                             
      4. Flexibility on imported and local gas                                                                                  
      5. Onshore reliability 6 and efficiency potentially                                                                       
         supported by LNG storage                                                                                               
      6. Long-term support of Alaska Gas Pipeline                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. SIMS  expanded on  the benefits of  the Alaska  LNG site                                                                    
depicted  on  slide  11. He  said  the  [Glenfarne]  project                                                                    
underwent  extensive  investigation,  with over  $4  million                                                                    
spent on  analysis, leading  to the  conclusion that  it was                                                                    
the best solution.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:54:56 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR  raised concerns about  the potential  conflict of                                                               
interest related  to a  tax reform  discussion from  the previous                                                               
year. He said  the tax reform primarily impacted  a company whose                                                               
business was  primarily on the North  Slope, and led to  a letter                                                               
from  the company  stating  it would  reduce  investment in  Cook                                                               
Inlet  and Cook  Inlet gas  [if the  reform was  implemented]. He                                                               
noted the  letter from the  company was not well-received  by the                                                               
[Senate Resource] committee members  and others, highlighting the                                                               
sensitivity  of the  issue. He  said, currently  another company,                                                               
involved in  a multi-billion-dollar  project, might  face funding                                                               
decisions  that  could  impact  a  smaller  but  crucial  project                                                               
providing  affordable  gas  to  Anchorage  and  other  areas.  He                                                               
questioned whether [Glenfarne] could  use funding leverage in the                                                               
larger  project  discussions,  and   he  sought  assurance  about                                                               
contractual or other protections to prevent this.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:56:48 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SIMS  appreciated the questions  and emphasized the  value of                                                               
the  ENSTAR  -  Glenfarne  project's independence  from  AGDC  in                                                               
financial terms  as well as  freedom from reliance on  federal or                                                               
state money. He  said the ENSTAR - Glenfarne  project should hold                                                               
up  on  its   own  with  just  the  utility   contracts  and  the                                                               
commitments  of  Glenfarne.  He  said   he  did  not  foresee  an                                                               
opportunity for it to be leveraged or taken advantage of.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:57:42 PM                                                                                                                    
     SENATOR MYERS  noted studies  for the path  forward and  a report                                                          
     released  by ENSTAR  in June,  2023.  He asked  when a  follow-up                                                          
 report would be released and why it had not already come out.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     3:58:08 PM                                                                                                               
     MR.  SIMS emphasized  the importance  of radical  transparency by                                                          
     the  utilities   and  referenced  ENSTAR's  efforts   to  provide                                                          
     detailed  reports  on  projects   and  pricing.  He  acknowledged                                                          
     signing   30   confidentiality  agreements   and   non-disclosure                                                          
     agreements  (NDAs),   which  restricted  the  ability   to  share                                                          
     information publicly.  He highlighted the necessity  of obtaining                                                          
     Regulatory Commission  of Alaska  (RCA) approval  before charging                                                          
     customers for  any project. He  assured public  disclosure before                                                          
     implementation of any charges.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     4:00:14 PM                                                                                                               
     SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  noted a  letter from  the utilities  to the                                                          
     attorney   general  approximately   two  years   prior  regarding                                                          
     concerns about  the failure of  the duty  to produce gas  in Cook                                                          
     Inlet. He  asked whether [the  utilities] received a  response to                                                          
     that letter.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     4:00:39 PM                                                                                                               
     MR.  SIMS  said,  to  his  knowledge  they  had  not  received  a                                                          
     response.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     4:00:51 PM                                                                                                               
     SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  asked  whether  the  utilities  still  had                                                          
     concerns about inadequate gas production in Cook Inlet.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     4:01:00 PM                                                                                                               
     MR. SIMS said he does  have significant concerns about Cook Inlet                                                          
     and   was  very   thankful  for   the  unusually   warm  [winter]                                                          
     temperatures.  He said  the market  for Cook  Inlet gas  was very                                                          
     tight.  The  producers  and  utilities  are  challenged  and  are                                                          
     working collaboratively to be sure  customers' needs are met; but                                                          
     he said he does have concerns  for the present and for the future                                                          
     up through the  time that Furie develops their  project. He noted                                                          
     that there  were execution risks  for [the Furie] project  and he                                                          
     was not  sure what  would be  done [if the  Furie project  is not                                                          
     successful] other than bringing in LNG by truck.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     4:02:17 PM                                                                                                               
     CHAIR GIESSEL asked to return to  slide 10. She asked whether the                                                          
     tank depicted  in the slide would  have the capacity to  hold the                                                          
     volume of LNG that would be delivered by a ship.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:02:40 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SIMS  affirmed that the  yellow tank is  above-ground storage                                                               
for LNG.  He noted there was  a cost per  day for the ship  to be                                                               
moored  as it  is being  off-loaded as  well as  up-front capital                                                               
cost for an above-ground LNG  tank. Evaluating the benefit of up-                                                               
front capital  cost vs.  operating costs is  one of  the analyses                                                               
underway.  He stated  that Cook  Inlet needs  more [LNG]  storage                                                               
[capacity].                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:03:31 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL asked whether  [the ENSTAR-Glenfarne project] would                                                               
also use Cook Inlet Natural Gas Storage Alaska (CINGSA).                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:03:35 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. SIMS  affirmed that they  would still  use CINGSA as  well as                                                               
other storage available in the market.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:03:43 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN  asked whether the  Alaska LNG site  would include                                                               
underground storage in addition to the above ground storage.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:03:59 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  SIMS  said  this  facility   would  only  have  above-ground                                                               
storage. He  said there are other  storage opportunities near-by,                                                               
which is  a huge benefit of  the location as opposed  to the west                                                               
side [of Cook Inlet].                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:04:36 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL asked for confirmation  that the facility [depicted                                                               
on slide 10] for export does not yet exist.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. SIMS said that was correct.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:04:52 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL asked for clarification  that the property depicted                                                               
on slide 11 was currently just empty property.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. SIMS affirmed that it was  and he reiterated the objective to                                                               
limit the  footprint as much  as possible  to reduce the  cost of                                                               
land  while  providing  a  reliable  supply  of  natural  gas  to                                                               
customers. He said  the project would use only  land necessary to                                                               
allow for import facilities.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:05:31 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL asked  whether the land [depicted on  slide 11] was                                                               
currently owned by AK LNG.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     4:05:36 PM                                                                                                               
     MR. SIMS  answered that it  was not  and, to his  knowledge there                                                          
     were multiple owners.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     4:05:41 PM                                                                                                               
     CHAIR GIESSEL  asked whether the  land was reserved for  AGDC and                                                          
     AK LNG.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     4:05:47 PM                                                                                                               
     MR.  SIMS said  those were  some of  the details  currently being                                                          
     worked out.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     4:05:52 PM                                                                                                               
     CHAIR  GIESSEL  asked whether  [ENSTAR  and  Glenfarne] would  be                                                          
     purchasing the land or leasing it.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     4:06:57 PM                                                                                                               
     MR. SIMS said  there are different ways to approach  that; from a                                                          
     utility perspective, ENSTAR prefers to  own and control the land.                                                          
     He said the details remain to be worked out.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     4:06:20 PM                                                                                                               
     CHAIR   GIESSEL  expressed   appreciation   for  the   utilities'                                                          
     collaborative  efforts.   She  also  appreciated   the  attention                                                          
     brought to the lack of  services [needed to support production in                                                          
     Cook Inlet].                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     4:07:01 PM                                                                                                               
     At ease.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     ^PRESENTATION(S): ALASKA ENERGY AUTHORITY (AEA) PROGRESS UPDATE                                                            
                                                                                                                                
       PRESENTATION(S): ALASKA ENERGY AUTHORITY (AEA) PROGRESS UPDATE                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     4:08:11 PM                                                                                                               
     CHAIR  GIESSEL reconvened  the meeting  and introduced  Executive                                                          
     Director Curtis  Thayer to present Alaska  Energy Authority (AEA)                                                          
     Progress Update.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     4:08:39 PM                                                                                                               
     CURTIS  THAYER,  Executive   Director,  Alaska  Energy  Authority                                                          
     (AEA), Anchorage, Alaska, said the  presentation to the committee                                                          
     titled Alaska Energy Authority (AEA)  Progress Update would focus                                                          
     on projects in the Cook Inlet.  He said AEA's focus was primarily                                                          
     upgrading energy  transmission lines  and looking  for additional                                                          
     sources of power to displace natural gas.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:09:09 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER moved to slide 2.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     AEA History                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     AEA  is an  independent and  public corporation  of the                                                                    
     State  of Alaska  created by  the state  legislature in                                                                    
     1976.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     1976                                                                                                                     
     Created  to  promote,   finance,  and  construct  power                                                                  
     projects                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     AS  44.83.070:  "The purpose  of  the  Authority is  to                                                                    
     promote,  develop, and  advance the  general prosperity                                                                    
     and  economic welfare  of the  people of  the state  by                                                                    
     providing  a means  of  financing  and operating  power                                                                    
     projects  and facilities  that  recover  and use  waste                                                                    
     energy  and  by  carrying  out the  powers  and  duties                                                                    
     assigned to it under AS 42.45."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:09:36 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER moved to slide 3 and highlighted some of the                                                                         
assignments for AEA.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 44.83.080 Powers of the Authority                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     In   furtherance  of   its   corporate  purposes,   the                                                                  
     authority has  the following powers in  addition to its                                                                  
     other powers:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
     •    ?to issue bonds to carry  out any of its corporate                                                                    
          purposes                                                                                                              
     •    ?to enter  into contracts  with the  United States                                                                    
          or any  person? ?for the  construction, financing,                                                                    
          operation, and  maintenance of all or  any part of                                                                    
          a  power  project  or  bulk  fuel,  waste  energy,                                                                    
          energy   conservation,   energy   efficiency,   or                                                                    
          alternative energy facilities or equipment                                                                            
     •    ?to  acquire,  construct,  maintain,  and  operate                                                                    
          power projects in accordance with the licenses or                                                                     
          permits,                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
       MR. THAYER noted that AEA owns the state's largest                                                                       
     hydroelectric facility, Bradley Lake.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          •    ?to    promote    energy   conservation,    energy                                                               
               efficiency,   and   alternative   energy   through                                                               
               training and public education;                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
  MR. THAYER said this duty was split with Alaska Housing who                                                                   
  does the residential side and AEA does the commercial side.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          •    ?to acquire a Susitna River power project,                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     MR.  THAYER noted  that AEA  spent $200  million dollars  to                                                               
     acquire the  Susitna River  project; Governor  Walker placed                                                               
     it in  abeyance in 2015 and  no actionhas been taken  on the                                                               
     project since.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
          •     to perform feasibility studies and engineering                                                                  
               and design with respect to power projects.                                                                       
          •    Battery Energy Storage Systems                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     4:10:39 PM                                                                                                               
     MR. THAYER moved to slide  4 and emphasized the board's expertise                                                          
     in energy needs across Alaska  and a good balance of perspectives                                                          
     and  experience   . He  also noted  that only  two current  board                                                          
     members reside in Anchorage.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     [Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          AEA Board of Directors                                                                                              
          [photos of the board members are included on slide 4.]                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          Clay Koplin                                                                                                         
          Chair Utility  Not Interconnected                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
          Duff Mitchell                                                                                                       
          Vice Chair Financial Expertise in Large Power                                                                         
          Generation                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
          Adam Crum                                                                                                           
          Commissioner, Alaska Department of Revenue                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
          Tony Izzo                                                                                                           
          Board Member Utility  Interconnected                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          Ingemar Mathiasson                                                                                                  
          Board Member Rural Energy Development                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Jenn Miller                                                                                                              
     Board Member Expertise in Engineering                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Julie Sande                                                                                                              
    Commissioner,    Alaska    Department   of    Commerce,                                                                     
     Community, and Economic Development                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Robert Siedman                                                                                                           
     Board Member Municipal Utility  Off Road System                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:11:26 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER moved to slide 5                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     About AEA                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     AEA's  mission  is to  reduce  the  cost of  energy  in                                                                    
     Alaska.  To  achieve  this   mission,  AEA  strives  to                                                                    
     diversify  Alaska's   energy  portfolio      increasing                                                                    
     resiliency, reliability, and redundancy.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Railbelt Energy (Owned Assets)                                                                                           
     •    Bradley Lake Hydroelectric Project                                                                                    
     •    Alaska Intertie                                                                                                       
     •    Sterling to Quartz Creek Transmission Line                                                                            
     •    High-Voltage Direct Current Transmission Line                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Power Cost Equalization (PCE)                                                                                            
     •    $48 Million Program                                                                                                   
     •    192 Rural Communities                                                                                                 
     •    91 Electric Utilities                                                                                                 
     •    80,000+ Alaskans                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Rural Energy                                                                                                             
     •    Bulk Fuel Upgrades                                                                                                    
     •    Rural Power System Upgrades                                                                                           
     •    Circuit Rider Program                                                                                                 
     •    Electrical Emergency Assistance                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Renewable Energy and Energy Efficiency                                                                                   
      •    Renewable projects: biomass, electric vehicles,                                                                      
          hydroelectric, solar, and wind                                                                                        
          •    Federal programs: NEVI, Solar for All, and Home                                                                  
               Energy and High Efficiency Rebate Allocations                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
          Grants and Loans                                                                                                    
          •    Renewable Energy Fund                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     4:12:38 PM                                                                                                               
     MR. THAYER  said the renewable  energy fund funded  over 100                                                               
     projects in  Alaska to look  at feasibility of  projects. He                                                               
     said  the Alaska  legislature and  the  governor had  funded                                                               
     almost $45 million  over the past four years and  a total of                                                               
     $300 million  since inception and  has displaced  85 million                                                               
     gallons  of diesel  fuel on  a permanent  basis through  new                                                               
     renewable  energy   projects.  He  reported   100  operating                                                               
     [renewable energy] projects got their seed money from AEA.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
          •    Power Project Fund                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     4:13:36 PM                                                                                                               
     MR.  THAYER said  the Power  Project Fund  is able  to offer                                                               
     low-cost loans and highlighted  renewable energy projects on                                                               
     Prince of Wales island and in Kodiak.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          Energy Planning                                                                                                     
          •    Alaska Energy Security Task Force                                                                                
          •    State Energy Security Profile                                                                                    
          •    Electronic Library                                                                                               
          •    Energy Data Resources                                                                                            
          •    40101(d) Grid Resilience Program                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     4:14:47 PM                                                                                                               
     MR. THAYER said the 40101(d)  grid resilience plan was a $70                                                               
     million program  through the Department  of Energy.  He said                                                               
     Fairbanks received  the first three allotments,  $22 million                                                               
     and would be applying for a second round.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          Railbelt Transmission Organization (RTO)                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     4:15:21 PM                                                                                                               
     MR. THAYER moved to slide 6.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     [Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          House Bill 307: Integrated Transmission Systems                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
     House Bill 307 is one of the most important pieces of                                                                    
      legislation affecting energy policy for the Railbelt                                                                    
     since Alaska statehood.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
        • The bill also incentivizes new energy development                                                                   
          by extending tax-exempt statutes to independent                                                                       
          power producers.                                                                                                      
        • This law also fundamentally changes how AEA                                                                         
          operates: Established its own distinct board of                                                                          
               directors    better  positioning the  state's                                                                  
               energy  office  to  address  Alaska's  unique                                                                    
              energy challenges and opportunities.                                                                              
             • Authorized AEA to have its own direct-hire                                                                     
               employees.                                                                                                     
             • Created     the     Railbelt     Transmission                                                                  
               Organization,  as  a   division  of  AEA,  to                                                                  
               establish     and    administer     a    non-                                                                    
               discriminatory   open   access   transmission                                                                    
               tariff   that   provides  for   recovery   of                                                                    
               transmission  costs  and  ancillary  services                                                                    
               and  replaces wholesale  charges assessed  by                                                                    
               each  utility  with   a  new  mechanism  that                                                                    
               fairly  recovers the  costs of  operating the                                                                    
               backbone transmission system.                                                                                    
        • Offers reduced interest rates for Power Project                                                                     
          Fund loans that are $5 million or more.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:16:46 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  THAYER  moved to  slide  7,  a  map  of Alaska  marking  the                                                               
locations of  AEA projects and  services. He  said the map  was a                                                               
snapshot of AEA activity today.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:17:13 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER moved  to slide 8, a map of  Alaska's railbelt region,                                                               
marking Cook Inlet transmission  projects identifying areas which                                                               
need  upgrades.  He  said  the  map began  at  Bradley  Lake  and                                                               
progressed  to Fairbanks.  He emphasized  that the  numbering was                                                               
not a ranking. The goal  was to identify opportunities to improve                                                               
reliability  and   redundancy,  improve  delivery   and  maximize                                                               
alternative energy additions to the system.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:18:05 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MYERS  noted that  the  Grid  Resilience and  Innovation                                                               
Partnership (GRIP) funding approved  by the legislature last year                                                               
was among funding placed on  pause by the current administration.                                                               
     He asked whether Mr. Thayer  expected the pause to impact funding                                                          
     and construction of Alaska GRIP efforts.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     4:18:44 PM                                                                                                               
     MR.  THAYER said  there was  a  90-day pause  and review  process                                                          
     initiated  by  the  incoming administration,  for  all  types  of                                                          
     projects,  noting  that  this pause  was  common  practice  among                                                          
     presidents. He  noted the president  had specifically  called out                                                          
     projects for off-shore  wind and he said Alaska  has no off-shore                                                          
     wind  projects.  He also  speculated  that  funding for  electric                                                          
     vehicle charging would  receive scrutiny but did  not expect that                                                          
     to  impact Alaska.  He said  he expected  infrastructure projects                                                          
     like  transmission lines  would move  through the  90 day  review                                                          
     process and be resumed. He  noted upcoming meetings with Alaska's                                                          
     congressional  delegation and  with the  National Association  of                                                          
     State Energy  Offices as  well as  a visit  to the  Department of                                                          
     Energy.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     4:21:20 PM                                                                                                               
     MR.  THAYER  explained  that the  Cook  Inlet  transmission  line                                                          
     project is funded  by the legislature ($12.7 million)  and by AEA                                                          
     and  the  utilities ($62.7  million)  and  can proceed  with  the                                                          
     state's  portion of  the  project.  He noted  that  there was  an                                                          
     eight-year timeline to complete the project.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     4:22:14 PM                                                                                                               
     MR. THAYER returned to slide  8 and highlighted projects that are                                                          
     in  progress  and/or  have  funding  behind  them.  He  specified                                                          
     current work  on the Dixon  Diversion, Bradley Lake,  Soldotna to                                                          
     Sterling,  Sterling   to  Quartz  Creek,  and   Quartz  Creek  to                                                          
     Anchorage.  He  emphasized that  17  percent  of the  water  from                                                          
     Bradley Lake  at $0.04  per kilowatt goes  to Fairbanks.  He said                                                          
     upgrading  the  line  to  improve  efficiency  to  Fairbanks  was                                                          
     critical.  He noted  GRIP projects  and  said   there were  other                                                          
 projects with federal funding underway in the Fairbanks area.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     4:23:58 PM                                                                                                               
     SENATOR CLAMAN  noted the interplay  between the  current funding                                                          
     pause and  the apparent desire  of the current  administration to                                                          
     stop  funding  green power.  He  asked  whether  it was  fair  to                                                          
     proceed  with  projects,  potentially  resulting  in  people  not                                                          
     receiving  funds  they  expected  to  receive  for  work  they've                                                          
     committed to providing.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     4:24:49 PM                                                                                                               
MR.  THAYER  said the  funding  is  on  pause, but  that  funding                                                               
approved and  signed by  the president  and approved  by congress                                                               
could not  be withdrawn  except by  an act  of congress.  He said                                                               
Alaska is not  the only state with billions of  dollars of needed                                                               
infrastructure funding on pause  and expressed confidence federal                                                               
funding would come through.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:26:18 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  THAYER  continued  with  slide  9,  Clean  Energy  Projects,                                                               
consisting  of a  map identifying  clean energy  projects in  the                                                               
railbelt region.  He highlighted the Dixon  Diversion project and                                                               
Kenai  Peninsula solar  project which  were already  underway. He                                                               
pointed  out the  wind and  solar power  are interruptible  power                                                               
because the sun doesn't always  shine and the wind doesn't always                                                               
blow,  so he  said they  displace natural  gas as  a fuel  source                                                               
during  certain times  of  the year,  but they  are  not a  repla                                                               
cement [for natural  gas]. By contrast, hydroelectric  power is a                                                               
replacement  because  that  can  be  utilized  anytime.  The  map                                                               
includes wind projects, geothermal projects and hydro projects.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:27:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER moved to slide 10.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Bradley Lake Hydroelectric Project                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
        • Energized in 1991, the Bradley Lake Hydroelectric                                                                     
          Project  is  Alaska's   largest  renewable  energy                                                                  
          source. It  is located  27 air miles  northeast of                                                                  
          Homer.                                                                                                                
        • The 120 -megawatt facility provides low -cost                                                                       
         energy to over 550,000 people on the Railbelt.                                                                       
        • Bradley Lake's annual energy production is ~10                                                                      
          percent of  Railbelt electricity at  4.5 cents/kWh                                                                    
          (or ~54,400  homes/year) and  over $20  million in                                                                    
          savings  per  year  for  Railbelt  utilities  from                                                                    
          Bradley Lake versus natural gas.                                                                                      
        • AEA, in partnership with Railbelt utilities, is                                                                     
          studying the Dixon  Diversion Project, which would                                                                  
          increase the  annual energy production  of Bradley                                                                    
          Lake  by  50  percent  (the equivalent  of  up  to                                                                    
          30,000 homes)                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER played a video  showing the Bradley Lake Hydroelectric                                                               
Project development  beginning in  1955 with a  feasibility study                                                               
through planning,  construction and implementation  to eventually                                                               
     produce some of  the most economical energy on  the railbelt. The                                                          
     video  concludes with  the Dixon  Diversion proposal  to increase                                                          
     production by up to 50 percent.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     4:30:38 PM                                                                                                               
     SENATOR MYERS highlighted the dates  for the Bradley Lake project                                                          
     and  said he  was  not  sure whether  the  extended timeline  was                                                          
     encouraging or discouraging.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     4:31:08 PM                                                                                                               
     MR. THAYER moved to slide 11.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     [Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          $342 Million (AEA bonds anticipated)                                                                                  
          FY2026 Request - $6.5 million                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          Dixon Diversion Project                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
          AEA  is   studying  the  Dixon  Diversion   Project  to                                                               
          optimize  the  Bradley   Lake  Hydroelectric  Project's                                                               
          energy  potential.  Like  the West  Fork  Upper  Battle                                                               
          Creek  Diversion Project,  the Dixon  Diversion Project                                                               
          would  divert  water  from Dixon  Glacier  to  increase                                                               
          Bradley Lake's annual energy production by 50 percent.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
             • Located five miles from Bradley Lake and would                                                                   
               utilize existing powerhouse at Bradley Lake                                                                      
             • Estimated annual energy 100,000-200,000 MWh (the                                                                 
               equivalent of up to 30,000 homes)                                                                                
             • Estimated to offset 1.5 billion cubic feet of                                                                    
               natural gas per year in Railbelt power generation                                                                
               (equal to 7.5 percent of Alaska's unmet natural                                                                  
               gas demand projected for 2030)                                                                                   
             • Estimated completion is 2030                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     MR.  THAYER  said  an  AEA engineer  studied  the  Dixon  Glacier                                                          
     recession  beginning with  aerial photos  from 1952  and proposed                                                          
     the  project.  He  emphasized  that   diverting  water  from  the                                                          
     receding Dixon Glacier  to Bradley Lake would raise  the level of                                                          
     the lake and  increase the hydroelectric capacity  by 50 percent.                                                          
     He said  the utilities  all support the  proposal and  it appears                                                          
     very do-able. The project could be completed by 2030.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     4:32:32 PM                                                                                                               
     MR.  THAYER  played  a  video   describing  the  development  and                                                          
     expected  benefits of  the proposed  Dixon Diversion  Project. He                                                          
pointed out that the diversion  would be entirely underground and                                                               
would create no footprint beyond a small diversion dam.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER  said the  project would cost  about $342  million. He                                                               
said  the Bradley  Lake project  was supported  by revenue  bonds                                                               
through the utilities and AEA  was considering revenue bonds as a                                                               
source  of financing  for the  Dixon Diversion  project as  well.                                                               
Additional funds  could come from  federal tax credits.  He noted                                                               
the  tax credits  expire  in  2032, but  that,  if things  remain                                                               
steady, the project  could qualify for ten to  thirty percent. He                                                               
emphasized  that  the  Dixon  Diversion   would  not  add  energy                                                               
generation,   rather,  the   storage  capacity   would  increase,                                                               
allowing the generators to be run for longer periods.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:35:51 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL  noted  that  Bradley   Lake  was  considered  too                                                               
expensive when  it first came  on line.  She asked what  the cost                                                               
per kilowatt hour (kWh) was initially.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:35:59 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER  answered that it was  four cents per kWh  compared to                                                               
two  cents per  kWh from  Cook  Inlet at  the time.  He said  the                                                               
approval to proceed  with the Bradley Lake project  passed by one                                                               
vote. He  said the price for  hydro power doesn't change  as long                                                               
as the  facility exists. AEA  expects Bradley Lake to  last fifty                                                               
years or  more, generating power at  four cents per kWh.  He said                                                               
AEA expects  the Dixon  Diversion will  generate power  below the                                                               
current  cost of  natural gas,  probably six  or seven  cents per                                                               
kWh.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:36:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL noted  that  the Bradley  Lake  dam is  relatively                                                               
young, pointing out that the dams  in Juneau are over one hundred                                                               
years old and still functional.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:37:03 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER said  there have been no issues with  the Bradley Lake                                                               
dam  or   the  generators  and   the  expectation  is   for  that                                                               
functionality to  continue. He said it  is a crown jewel  and has                                                               
supplied the railbelt with reliable power for over 35 years.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER said  AEA requested $6.5 million  from the legislature                                                               
to  complete the  Dixon Diversion  study and  proceed to  Federal                                                               
Energy Regulatory  Commission (FERC)  [application]. He  said the                                                               
chairman of FERC toured the  Bradley Lake facility and Mr. Thayer                                                               
shared  with  the  chairman  that the  actual  drilling  work  to                                                               
accomplish the  Dixon Diversion would  take six to  eight months,                                                               
     but securing  approval for the  project from FERC is  expected to                                                          
     take eighteen to twenty-four months.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     4:38:15 PM                                                                                                               
     CHAIR GIESSEL noted  getting the power from the  dam to consumers                                                          
     will require transmission upgrades via sub-sea cable.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     4:38:27 PM                                                                                                               
     MR.  THAYER  moved  to  slide   12.  The  slide  includes  a  map                                                          
     illustrating the area relevant to the points in the slide.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     [Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          $90 Million (Under Construction; AEA Bonds Existing)                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          Sterling to Quartz (SSQ) and Soldotna to Sterling                                                                   
          Transmission Lines                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          In 2020, AEA acquired the SSQ Transmission Line, as                                                                   
          part of the Bradley Lake Hydroelectric Project.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          •    Location    39.4 miles of 115 kilovolt (kV)                                                                    
               transmission  and out  of use  69 kV  transmission                                                               
               from Sterling to Quartz substation (Kenai Lake).                                                                 
          •    Benefits    AEA ownership ensures better cost                                                                  
               alignment,    reduce   line    losses,   increased                                                               
               reliability,   and   more   timely   repairs   and                                                               
               upgrades.                                                                                                        
          •    Status  69 kV line decommissioned and removed;                                                                 
               engineers   are   designing  and   are   procuring                                                               
               equipment for  the upgrade of the  existing 115 kV                                                               
               line to 230 kV.  Construction has started on first                                                               
               section.                                                                                                         
          •    Cost  Estimated cost to upgrade line is $90                                                                    
               million   for  the   SSQ  transmission   line  and                                                               
            Sterling to Soldotna transmission line.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     MR. THAYER said the current  railbelt power generation capability                                                          
     and growing  demand are significantly  greater than  the capacity                                                          
     of the  60-year-old transmission lines.  He said there is  also a                                                          
     huge   amount  of   line  loss,   energy   wasted.  The   39-mile                                                          
     transmission  line [upgrade]  from  Sterling to  Quartz Creek  is                                                          
     owned  by AEA  and is  under construction.  The upgrade  has been                                                          
     fully  funded using  bonds and  did  not require  funds from  the                                                          
     state nor  did it  require raising  consumer rates.  He described                                                          
     the bonding  and planning process  to fund required  projects and                                                          
     said GRIP  or IIJA funds,  which weren't available  when planning                                                          
began in  2022, may be  applicable. He said AEA,  in consultation                                                               
with  the [railbelt]  utilities, approved  moving $50  million in                                                               
two tranches,  combined with $12.7  million from the state  for a                                                               
total of $62.7 million toward  the required $206 million matching                                                               
funds.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:41:04 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER moved to and narrated slide 13.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     $413 Million  (Match of  $62.7 Million  Secured; $143.8                                                                    
     Million Future Need) FY2026 Request - $1.5 Million                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Grid  Resilience  and Innovation  Partnerships  (GRIP):                                                                  
     HVDC Line                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     AEA secured $206.5 million for  GRIP Topic Area 3: Grid                                                                    
     Innovation  through  the  U.S. Department  of  Energy's                                                                    
     Grid Deployment  Office. A cost  share of  100 percent,                                                                    
     or  $206.5 million,  is required  for  a total  project                                                                    
     amount   of   $413   million.  The   project   includes                                                                    
     constructing   high-voltage   direct   current   (HVDC)                                                                    
     submarine cables as a  parallel transmission route from                                                                    
     the Kenai Peninsula to Anchorage.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The   project  addresses   several  challenges   facing                                                                    
     Alaska's Railbelt regions:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     •    Provides a redundant  pathway between the Southern                                                                  
          (Kenai Peninsula) and Central (Anchorage and Mat-                                                                     
          Su) Regions                                                                                                           
     •    Eliminates  the  single-point-of-failure  inherent                                                                  
          in the previous system (the system will still be                                                                      
          subject to single point of failure between Willow                                                                     
          and Healy)                                                                                                            
     •    Allows  for more  renewable power  to be  added to                                                                  
          the grid and distributed across the Railbelt                                                                          
     •    Increases the  ability to share power  between the                                                                  
          Southern, Central, and Northern Regions of the                                                                        
          Railbelt, allowing the most economical power to                                                                       
          be used at all times                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:41:47 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER played a video highlighting the need for transmission                                                                
line upgrade, the proposal to accomplish the upgrade and the                                                                    
expected benefits.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     4:44:45 PM                                                                                                               
     MR. THAYER moved to slide 14.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     [Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          Submarine Power Cable's Attributes                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          Submarine power cables are designed for the transport                                                                 
          of electric energy under the sea.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
             • Outside diameter  4.5"                                                                                           
             • Weight per foot  20 Ibs. with standard armor                                                                     
               (may spec for Cook Inlet)                                                                                        
             • Length is about 35 miles under water                                                                             
             • Estimated lifespan is 50 years                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Slide  14  includes an  artist's  rendering  of the  cable's                                                               
     layered components, labeled as  follows from exterior to the                                                               
     core:  outer serving,  armoring, transversal  reinforcement,                                                               
     plastic   sheath,  lead   sheath,  insulation   system,  and                                                               
     conductor.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     MR. THAYER  said this was  the submarine cable  laid between                                                               
     Fire  Island and  Anchorage, an  AEA project.  He emphasized                                                               
     the characteristics of the cable  noted in slide 14 and said                                                               
     the  two  cables  would  be  laid  in  a  trench,  providing                                                               
     redundancy in the system.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     4:45:25 PM                                                                                                               
     MR. THAYER moved to slide 15.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     [Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          Schedule                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
          The  statutory  period for  the  project  is eight  (8)                                                             
          years and  the construction schedule below  is based on                                                             
          a  design-bid-build  process    a  traditional  project                                                             
          delivery method that consists  of three distinct phases                                                             
          in sequence: September 2024  Award                                                                                          
             • First Quarter 2025  Preliminary Engineering &                                                                  
               Schedule                                                                                                         
        • Second Quarter 2026  Commence Full Design and                                                                       
          Permitting                                                                                                            
        • July 2027      Complete National Environmental                                                                      
          Policy Act (NEPA) Process                                                                                             
        • January 2028 to December 2029  Long Lead Items                                                                      
        • January 2030 to December 2031  Construction                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER said  the undersea  cable was  on schedule  and costs                                                               
appear to  be coming in better  than expected. He said  the grant                                                               
was  written to  allow for  any available  federal funding  to go                                                               
towards battery energy storage system in Anchorage or Fairbanks.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:46:02 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  THAYER  emphasized  that  all   three  projects:  the  Dixon                                                               
Diversion, the Sterling to Quartz  Creek Upgrade and the GRIP are                                                               
all  currently  underway.  He  said  they  represent  over  5,000                                                               
construction jobs  and over a  billion dollars in  economic input                                                               
in Alaska through 2030.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:46:48 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER moved to and narrated slide 16.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska Intertie                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
    Constructed in the mid-1980s with $124 million in State                                                                     
     of Alaska appropriations, there is no debt associated                                                                      
     with the Alaska Intertie.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
        • AEA    owns   the    170-mile   Alaska    Intertie                                                                  
          transmission  line that  runs  between Willow  and                                                                  
          Healy.  The  line  operates  at  138  kV  (it  was                                                                  
          designed to  operate at 345  kV) and  includes 850                                                                    
          structures.                                                                                                           
        • A vital section of the Railbelt transmission                                                                        
          system,  the   Intertie  is  the  only   link  for                                                                  
          transferring power  between northern  and southern                                                                    
          utilities.                                                                                                            
        • The Intertie transmits power north into the                                                                           
          Golden Valley  Electric Association  (GVEA) system                                                                    
          and  provides  Interior customers  with  low-cost,                                                                    
          reliable  power     between  2008  and  2021,  the                                                                    
          Intertie saved  GVEA customers  an average  of $30                                                                  
          million annually.                                                                                                   
             • The Intertie provides benefits to Southcentral                                                                   
               customers as well through cost savings and                                                                     
               resilience to unexpected events.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     MR. THAYER noted  that during the cold spell  in 2023-2024, power                                                          
     was being  shipped where  it was  needed, illustrating  the unity                                                          
     [of  those in  the railbelt  transmission system]  from Homer  to                                                          
     Fairbanks.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     4:47:17 PM                                                                                                               
     SENATOR MYERS  noted that the  slide says the system  operates at                                                          
     138 kV, but that  it was designed to operate at  354 kV. He asked                                                          
     why   that  was   and  said   it  was   his  understanding   that                                                          
     [transmitting] lower volume leads to greater line loss.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     4:47:35 PM                                                                                                               
     MR. THAYER said the decision  was made based on funding available                                                          
     at the  time, 40  years ago.  He said they  did build  the towers                                                          
     [for the  higher capacity], so  they would need to  re-string the                                                          
     wires. He  noted that there would  still be one line  and not the                                                          
     redundancy  of a  second line,  which  would be  required if  the                                                          
     system were FERC  regulated. He said the upgrade  would be fairly                                                          
     straightforward.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     4:48:15 PM                                                                                                               
     SENATOR CLAMAN asked  how much line loss  impacted the efficiency                                                          
     of  power  production  and  the   ability  to  deliver  power  to                                                          
     different parts of the railbelt.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     4:48:35 PM                                                                                                               
     MR. THAYER said  it depends where and when the  line loss occurs.                                                          
     He said  the Sterling  to Quartz Creek  section includes  some of                                                          
     the oldest  line and some of  the highest line loss  that occurs.                                                          
     He said  the loss could  be as much as  seven to ten  percent. He                                                          
     emphasized that,  especially with  the expectation  of increasing                                                          
     power  by completing  the  Dixon Diversion,  it  was critical  to                                                          
     increase the  transmission capacity  of the  line and  to provide                                                          
     redundancy. He noted  the Swan Lake fire experience  and said the                                                          
     transmission line  was down  for four months.  He also  said snow                                                          
     took  down some  of  the lines  for three  or  four days  between                                                          
     Girdwood and Whittier during the past winter.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     4:49:36 PM                                                                                                               
     SENATOR CLAMAN  asked whether  it would be  possible to  get more                                                          
  information for the committee specifically about line loss.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     4:49:46 PM                                                                                                               
MR. THAYER  said he could  invite an  engineer to present  to the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:49:54 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER moved to slide 17.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     $28 Million to Utilities                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
         Battery Energy Storage Systems (BESS) for Grid                                                                       
     Stabilization Scope  The BESS projects consist of an upgrade                                                                      
          to the existing BESS system  in the North, and new                                                                    
          BESS systems in the  Southern, and Central regions                                                                    
          of  the  grid. The  Northern  BESS  is located  at                                                                    
          Fairbanks, the Southern BESS  is located in Kenai,                                                                    
          the  Central  Region  BESS   will  be  located  at                                                                    
          Anchorage. BESS  will be  needed to  fully realize                                                                    
          the  benefits  of  a  230  kV  bulk  power  supply                                                                    
          system, regulate  energy from  various generation,                                                                    
          and increase resilience.                                                                                              
        • Benefits  Increase system resilience, transfer                                                                      
          capability,  more  efficient  use of  system,  and                                                                    
          lowers   impediments   to   additional   renewable                                                                    
          generation development.                                                                                               
        • Schedule  Estimated completion date is 2026: -                                                                      
          Southern   (Kenai)       In  service   -   Central                                                                    
          (Anchorage)   October  2024 - Northern (Fairbanks)                                                                    
            To be determined                                                                                                    
        • Budget    $28 million in services to dampen                                                                         
          oscillation                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER said  slide 17  depicted the  Battery Energy  Storage                                                               
System (BESS)  in Homer and  that Anchorage  also has a  BESS. He                                                               
said AEA was  able to assist utilities with the  purchase of BESS                                                               
systems using their bonding process.  AEA entered into agreements                                                               
with the  three utilities  to provide $28  million over  the next                                                               
fifteen  years.  He  said  some   of  the  battery  systems  also                                                               
qualified for  federal tax credits  which also lowered  the cost.                                                               
The  batteries will  help dampen  oscillation issues  and provide                                                               
spinning  reserve, reducing  the need  for gas  generators to  be                                                               
constantly running to respond to blackouts.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:52:17 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER moved to and narrated slide 18.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     [Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          Railbelt Transmission Organization (RTO)                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
          Owing  to recommendations  from  the governor's  Alaska                                                               
          Energy Security  Task Force concerning  the elimination                                                               
          of transmission wheeling  charges and the establishment                                                               
          of a RTO, the Legislature  passed House Bill 307, which                                                               
          was signed  into law on  July 31, 2024. Under  the law,                                                               
          the RTO is a division of AEA.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
             • The RTO operates through its governance committee                                                                
               comprised  of  a  representatives from  AEA,  each                                                               
               Railbelt  utility,  and the  Railbelt  Reliability                                                               
               Council (as an ex officio non-voting member).                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
             • Since the signing of House Bill 307, the RTO has                                                                 
               held five public  meetings, established a charter,                                                               
               and adopted bylaws modeled  after the Bradley Lake                                                               
               Project Management Committee.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
             • The   RTO   submitted   an   application   for   a                                                               
               certificate  of public  convenience and  necessity                                                               
               (CPCN)  and  a  petition   for  waivers  with  the                                                               
               Regulatory Commission of  Alaska (RCA) on December                                                               
               20th,  in advance  of the  January 1  st statutory                                                               
               deadline. The  RCA will rule  on the  petition for                                                               
               waivers and  determine whether the  application is                                                               
               complete by February 18th.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
             • By July 1, 2025, the RTO shall file with the RCA                                                                 
               a   nondiscriminatory  open   access  transmission                                                               
               tariff that provides for  the recovery of Railbelt                                                               
               backbone transmission costs  and related ancillary                                                               
               services,  and replaces  wheeling  charges with  a                                                               
               new mechanism  that fairly recovers  and equitably                                                               
               allocates  the  costs  of operating  the  backbone                                                               
               system.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     4:54:01 PM                                                                                                               
     SENATOR DUNBAR asked for clarification of the timeline for                                                                 
     upgrades to the transmission system resulting in the removal of                                                            
     wheeling rates on the railbelt.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     4:54:29 PM                                                                                                               
MR. THAYER clarified that the July  1st, 2025 deadline was set by                                                               
statute and  is a  hard deadline.  He explained  that this  was a                                                               
public process through the Regulatory  Commission of Alaska (RCA)                                                               
with public hearings  and public comment periods  and reviews. He                                                               
said he thought it would take at  least six months for the RCA to                                                               
work through the submission. He hoped  by next year to be working                                                               
through the regulatory  process. He noted some  of the challenges                                                               
would be  determining which utilities were  responsible for which                                                               
transmission lines and how various  contracts and cost structures                                                               
would be  restructured. He  reported that  the utilities  and AEA                                                               
were meeting frequently to do that work.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:56:10 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THAYER  thanked the committee  for their support  and offered                                                               
to provide information and updates as needed.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:56:34 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL expressed  appreciation to  AEA and  the utilities                                                               
for the collaborative approach they were taking.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:57:40 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair Giessel  adjourned the Senate Resources  Standing Committee                                                               
meeting at 4:57 p.m.                                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
1.24.25 AEA Progress Update Presentation to Senate Resources Committee.pdf SRES 1/24/2025 3:30:00 PM
1.24.25 Enstar Presentation to Senate Resources.pdf SRES 1/24/2025 3:30:00 PM
1.24.25 Enstar Handout.pdf SRES 1/24/2025 3:30:00 PM