Legislature(2009 - 2010)OUZINKIE

09/02/2009 12:00 PM Senate RESOURCES


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12:00:06 PM Start
12:07:00 PM State Energy Plan Testimony from Ouzinkie
12:36:00 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Teleconference 12:00 pm to 1:30 pm --
JOINT WITH THE SENATE SPECIAL COMMITTEE
ON ENERGY
LOCATION: Ouzinkie Tribal Hall
PURPOSE: To hear public testimony on
development of statewide energy policies
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
                         JOINT MEETING                                                                                        
              SENATE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
               SENATE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON ENERGY                                                                             
                      OUZINKIE TRIBAL HALL                                                                                    
                       September 2, 2009                                                                                        
                           12:00 p.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATE RESOURCES                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 Senator Lesil McGuire, Co-Chair                                                                                                
 Senator Bill Wielechowski, Co-Chair                                                                                            
 Senator Gary Stevens                                                                                                           
 Senator Thomas Wagoner                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON ENERGY                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 Senator Lesil McGuire, Chair                                                                                                   
 Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                          
 Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATE RESOURCES                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 Senator Charlie Huggins, Vice Chair                                                                                            
 Senator Hollis French                                                                                                          
 Senator Bert Stedman                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON ENERGY                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 Senator Albert Kookesh                                                                                                         
 Senator Bert Stedman                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
 Senator Johnny Ellis                                                                                                           
 Senator Joe Thomas                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
State Energy Plan Testimony from Ouzinkie                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
TED PANAMARIEFF                                                                                                                 
Ouzinkie Native Corporation                                                                                                     
POSITION STATEMENT: Commented on Ouzinkie energy issues.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
BARBARA ANDERSON, representing herself                                                                                          
Ouzinkie, AK                                                                                                                    
POSITION STATEMENT: Commented on Ouzinkie energy issues.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SHARON ANDERSON                                                                                                                 
Spruce Island Development Corporation                                                                                           
POSITION STATEMENT: Commented on Ouzinkie energy issues.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
LARRY CHICHENOFF                                                                                                                
Alaska Native Tribal Health Consortium (ANTHC)                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Commented on Ouzinkie energy issues.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MICHELLE SYDEMAN                                                                                                                
Staff to Senator Wielechowski                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT: Commented on Ouzinkie energy issues.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
JOHN BARTOLINO, representing himself                                                                                            
Ouzinkie, AK                                                                                                                    
POSITION STATEMENT: Commented on Ouzinkie energy issues.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
NICKOLAS PESTAIKOFF, representing himself                                                                                       
Ouzinkie, AK                                                                                                                    
POSITION STATEMENT: Commented on Ouzinkie energy issues.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
12:00:06 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR BILL WIELECHOWSKI called the joint meeting of the                                                                    
Senate Resources Standing Committee and the Senate Special                                                                      
Committee on Energy to order at approximately 12:00 p.m.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^State Energy Plan Testimony from Ouzinkie                                                                                      
                  State Energy Plan - Ouzinkie                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
[Unconventional meeting facilities did not allow for a good                                                                     
recording; so the following is list of people who testified and                                                                 
a brief  summary of their  remarks. Most comments were  about how                                                               
people  were struggling  to meet  fuel costs  for their  homes as                                                               
well as  needing funding to  develop energy alternatives  for the                                                               
community.]                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS remarked  that he  was impressed  with what  the                                                               
people  in  Ouzinkie were  doing  with  supplementing the  diesel                                                               
generators with hydro.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
12:07:00 PM                                                                                                                   
CO-CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI  said that he would  begin taking testimony                                                               
from people who had signed up to speak.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
TED   PANAMARIEFF,   Ouzinkie   Native   Corporation,   said   he                                                               
appreciated them being here.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
12:14:00 PM                                                                                                                   
BARBARA ANDERSON,  representing herself, thanked them  for coming                                                               
to Ouzinkie.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
12:16:00 PM                                                                                                                   
SHARON  ANDERSON,  Spruce  Island Development  Corporation,  said                                                               
people are struggling with energy costs for their homes.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
12:24:00 PM                                                                                                                   
LARRY   CHICHENOFF,  Alaska   Native  Tribal   Health  Consortium                                                               
(ANTHC), said Alaska  is always last to get the  price of oil and                                                               
gas to drop down when we should be almost self-sufficient.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
12:27:00 PM                                                                                                                   
MICHELLE  SYDEMAN,  staff  to  Senator  Wielechowski,  said  some                                                               
people told her  that a priority was getting about  $50,000 go to                                                               
the AEA  to pay for a  machine that would collect  wind data. The                                                               
second priority  was about  $50,000 to  address the  integrity of                                                               
their water system.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
12:29:00 PM                                                                                                                   
Unidentified person commented on the water system.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
12:30:00 PM                                                                                                                   
MR.  LARSON,   Project  Manager,   [indisc.]  said   they  design                                                               
sanitation  facilities in  Alaska. He  said the  water mains  are                                                               
corroding from  the outside in  and leaking. The  system delivers                                                               
approximately  90,000 gallons/day  and a  community of  this size                                                               
should only  use about  20,000 gallons/day.  That water  could be                                                               
turned into  the energy to  run the  hydro. It is  drinking water                                                               
first and electric second.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He  said the  problem  is  their funding  is  limited.  To get  a                                                               
project  in Kodiak  that already  has water  mains he  has to  be                                                               
really tactful.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
12:33:00 PM                                                                                                                   
CO-CHAIR WIELECHOWSKI asked  what the price tag  is for replacing                                                               
all the water mains.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. LARSON  replied that  he estimated $1  million to  design and                                                               
construct.  But he  could leverage  even $50,000-$100,000  into a                                                               
fundable project.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
12:34:00 PM                                                                                                                   
JOHN  BARTOLINO, representing  himself, said  he knows  the state                                                               
has a  lot of  funding for energy  efficiency projects,  but that                                                               
doesn't help  the individual  with solar  panels and  things like                                                               
that.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
12:36:00 PM                                                                                                                   
NICKOLAS  PESTAIKOFF,  representing  himself,  thanked  them  for                                                               
coming to Ouzinkie. He said  they are uniquely situated for hydro                                                               
and  wind   generation.  He  thought  the   technology  could  be                                                               
developed to take advantage of the tidal currents as well.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS remarked  that  this community  has suffered  an                                                               
enormous loss [in reference to  military service]. He appreciated                                                               
their sacrifice for the state of  Alaska and the United State and                                                               
he thanked them for inviting them.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  WIELECHOWSKI found  no further  business and  adjourned                                                               
the meeting.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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