Legislature(2009 - 2010)Ruby

05/27/2009 03:30 PM Senate RESOURCES


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04:08:55 PM Start
04:13:36 PM Public Hearing on Statewide Energy Plan
04:38:27 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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SENATE RESOURCES/ENERGY WORKING GROUP
Location: Ruby Community Center
Meeting from 3:30 p.m. to 5:00 p.m.
+ Public Hearing on Statewide Energy Plan TELECONFERENCED
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                     RUBY COMMUNITY CENTER                                                                                    
                          May 27, 2009                                                                                          
                           4:08 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
 Senator Lesil McGuire, Co-Chair                                                                                                
 Senator Bill Wielechowski, Co-Chair                                                                                            
 Senator Hollis French                                                                                                          
 Senator Thomas Wagoner                                                                                                         
 Senator Gary Stevens                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 Senator Charlie Huggins, Vice Chair                                                                                            
 Senator Bert Stedman                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Public Hearing on Statewide Energy Plan                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHARLES TOTEMOFF, President                                                                                                     
Chenega Corporation                                                                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
JESS BOTRA, ABS Alaska                                                                                                          
POSITION STATEMENT:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ED TARTAN                                                                                                                       
Ruby Tribal Council                                                                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT: Supported renewable energies.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
JOHN WIREHOUSE, representing himself                                                                                            
POSITION STATEMENT: Urged funding an Emerging Technologies Fund                                                               
at the highest level possible.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
BILLY MCKARTY, JR.                                                                                                              
Traditional Chief                                                                                                               
Ruby                                                                                                                            
POSITION STATEMENT: He  said the hall in Ruby was  built in 1967,                                                             
and the price  per kilowatt hour then was about  12 cents; and it                                                               
has gone  sky high since  then. Something  needs to be  done, and                                                               
soon, he urged.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
EDNA PETERS, representing herself                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  She would like homeowners  to get assistance                                                             
in buying  wind turbines  and thought  her home  would be  a good                                                               
test location.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:08:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-CHAIR  LESIL  MCGUIRE  called the  Senate  Resources  Standing                                                             
Committee to  order. It was  scheduled to start  at approximately                                                               
3:30 p.m.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^Public Hearing on Statewide Energy Plan                                                                                    
            Public Hearing on Statewide Energy Plan                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Due  to technical  difficulties,  the first  few  minutes of  the                                                               
meeting were not recorded.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHARLES  TOTEMOFF, President,  Chenega Corporation,  said he  had                                                               
lived in Ruby  for five years. It has hot  springs and wind power                                                               
potential. The cost  of living has driven many  people to migrate                                                               
to urban  centers. He  noted that  Power Cost  Equalization (PCE)                                                               
helped, but everyone in the community  pays about $20 per day for                                                               
electricity.  Fuel is  high as  well. He  said that  Rural Alaska                                                               
pays a fuel  tax, but receives no benefits from  it. He suggested                                                               
help for  rural Alaska in  terms of tapping into  highway dollars                                                               
to subsidize fuel deliveries.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
He  stressed  the importance  for  rural  Alaska  to be  able  to                                                               
sustain itself. The  community is converting to  solar panels and                                                               
hopes  to lower  operational costs  for its  school. Lots  can be                                                               
done, and he looks forward to that.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:13:36 PM                                                                                                                    
JESS BOTRA,  ABS Alaska,  said ABS Alaska  sold equipment  to the                                                               
hydro  project they  had  just seen.  He  thought that  education                                                               
about  what alternative  energies are  available and  how to  use                                                               
them  was key  in rural  communities like  Ruby. Communities  all                                                               
over Alaska  are getting involved  in alternative energy  so that                                                               
fuel and electrical  costs are reduced. But people  feel it's out                                                               
of their grasp  especially without knowing what  is available and                                                               
being able to  learn how to install  and use it - and  to pay for                                                               
it.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Someone in Nome is successfully  running a four-bedroom two story                                                               
house,  three-car garage  based on  solar  hot water  and a  wind                                                               
turbine, for  instance; his  electricity comes  on only  for five                                                               
minutes every hour. He bought his  home in Fairbanks based on the                                                               
wind  regime,  but  the  problem  he has  is  that  there  is  no                                                               
educational facility  that can  step him  through the  program of                                                               
getting the funding  and show him how to put  those things on his                                                               
property. Education  programs would be  useful in both  rural and                                                               
urban communities.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:18:42 PM                                                                                                                    
ED  TARTAN, Ruby  Tribal  Council, said  there  should be  energy                                                               
outfitting  for homes  to reduce  energy  consumption. Many  fish                                                               
camps now have  wind generators and solar panels.  They work. So,                                                               
he knows  it's possible to  outfit the village and  reduce energy                                                               
consumption. The turbine project is  the only thing happening and                                                               
he is proud of it, but there is more that can be done.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  MCGUIRE said  the committee  visited  the Cold  Climate                                                               
Research  Center and  legislators will  take back  the idea  that                                                               
there should be more outreach.  Congress has a tax incentive, but                                                               
without an income tax it's not much incentive in Alaska.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:23:25 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR   THOMAS   said   bringing    energy   raters   for   the                                                               
weatherization program  to Ruby might  be helpful as a  start. It                                                               
won't tell  people how to  install solar panels and  wind energy,                                                               
but it will tell people how  to correct the inadequacies of their                                                               
particular house. The next step  is whether someone can afford to                                                               
put panels  in.  Consolidating public  services in one spot  is a                                                               
good idea to save energy.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:26:07 PM                                                                                                                    
JOHN  WIREHOUSE, Director,  Yukon  River  Intertribal Water  Shed                                                               
Council,  urged  funding an  Emerging  Technologies  Fund at  the                                                               
highest level  possible, because Alaska has  the energy resources                                                               
that should make it a leader in the renewable energies industry.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Sometimes people  who step up to  the plate have the  capacity to                                                               
write  the grants  and get  the money  to fund  their projects  -                                                               
large organizations can  do that. But this  process bypasses some                                                               
of the  great ideas from  the guy who  is working in  his garage.                                                               
Further,   grantees  should   have  a   training  component   for                                                               
installing  and  maintaining   these  renewable  energy  systems.                                                               
Third,  he suggested  having interest  free loans  or grants  for                                                               
small projects.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MCGUIRE said  the Emerging Technology Fund is  in SB 150                                                               
and there is need for support.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:30:49 PM                                                                                                                    
BILLY  MCKARTY,  JR., Traditional  Chief  in  Ruby, welcomed  the                                                               
committees. He said  the hall in Ruby was built  in 1967, and the                                                               
price per kilowatt hour then was  about 12 cents; and it has gone                                                               
sky high  since then. Something  needs to  be done, and  soon, he                                                               
urged.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:33:10 PM                                                                                                                    
EDNA PETERS said she has been in  Ruby for over 30 years. She and                                                               
her  husband are  on  a  fixed income  and  the  rising price  of                                                               
electricity  is  a  huge  concern.  She  is  interested  in  wind                                                               
turbines  and  so  she  bought   some.  However,  they  were  all                                                               
destroyed by  the wind -  so at least she  knows she has  a prime                                                               
location. She would  like homeowners to get  assistance in buying                                                               
wind  turbines,  and  thought  her  home would  be  a  good  test                                                               
location.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:36:13 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  FRENCH thanked  everyone  for  their hospitality.  Rural                                                               
Alaska  will survive  only if  the basic  costs of  existence are                                                               
brought down -  especially the cost of energy, he  said, and they                                                               
need to work together. There  are probably 100 villages just like                                                               
theirs; and  each solution will  be slightly different.  The best                                                               
lawmakers can probably give them is  "a tool box," but they would                                                               
be the ones to have to open that  box and make the tools work. It                                                               
was very encouraging for him to see that happening here.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. PETERS  remarked that with all  the troubles going on  in the                                                               
world, living in an Alaskan  village is probably the safest place                                                               
they  could be.  That was  brought  out when  911 happened.  When                                                               
things are at their worst we are  at our best, she said, but they                                                               
need some help with their energy expenses.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:38:27 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  MCGUIRE  thanked  everyone  for  heir  hospitality  and                                                               
testimony and adjourned the meeting at 4:38 p.m.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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