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12/16/2025 01:00 PM Senate LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL

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01:03:02 PM Start
02:20:25 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
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-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
+ I. Approval of the Agenda TELECONFERENCED
+ II. Approval of Minutes TELECONFERENCED
a. November 5, 2025, Meeting Minutes
+ III. Sanctioning of Charitable Events TELECONFERENCED
a. Alaska Sealife Center Annual Soiree
+ IV. Committee Business TELECONFERENCED
a. Late Travel Reimbursement Claims
i. Sen. Cronk
ii. Rep. Holland
b. Anchorage LOB Security Contract Renewal
No. 3
c. Capitol Security Screening Contract Renewal
No. 1
IV. Executive Session
a. Professional Services Contracting - Joint
Legislative Task Force on Education Funding
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
                 ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                     
                    LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
                     DECEMBER 16, 2025                                                                                        
                          1:00 PM                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
Representative Sara Hannan, Chair                                                                                             
Representative Bryce Edgmon                                                                                                   
Representative Chuck Kopp                                                                                                     
Representative Mike Prax                                                                                                      
Representative Calvin Schrage                                                                                                 
Representative Louise Stutes                                                                                                  
Representative Donna Mears (alternate)                                                                                        
Senator Matt Claman                                                                                                           
Senator Cathy Giessel                                                                                                         
Senator Elvi Gray-Jackson                                                                                                     
Senator Jesse Kiehl                                                                                                           
Senator Bert Stedman                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
Senator Gary Stevens, Vice Chair                                                                                              
Representative Ashley Carrick                                                                                                 
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                         
Senator Löki Tobin(alternate)                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
OTHER MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                         
Representative Ky Holland                                                                                                     
Representative Rebecca Himschoot                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
AGENDA                                                                                                                        
APPROVAL OF AGENDA                                                                                                            
APPROVAL OF MINUTES                                                                                                           
COMMITTEE BUSINESS                                                                                                            
EXECUTIVE SESSION                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
SPEAKER REGISTER                                                                                                              
Sant Lesh, Acting Executive Director, Legislative Affairs                                                                     
Agency (LAA)                                                                                                                  
JC Kestel, Procurement Officer, LAA                                                                                           
Tim Powers, Chief Technology and Outreach Officer, LAA                                                                        
Emily Nauman, Legal Services Director, LAA                                                                                    
Megan Wallace, Chief Counsel, LAA                                                                                             
Michael Mason, Staff to Senator Tobin                                                                                         
   I. Call to Order                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
   1:03:02 PM                                                                                                               
   CHAIR  HANNAN  called  the  Legislative  Council  meeting  to                                                              
   order at  1:03pm on  December 16,  2025, in  Room 519  (House                                                              
   Finance) of the State Capitol.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
   Present  at  the  call were  Representatives   Edgmon,  Kopp,                                                              
   Prax,  Schrage,  Stutes,  Mears,  Hannan;  Senators   Claman,                                                              
   Giessel, Gray-Jackson, Kiehl, Stedman.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
   Twelve members present.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
   II. Approval of the Agenda                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
   1:04:26 PM                                                                                                               
   SENATOR  STEDMAN  moved  and  asked  unanimous  consent  that                                                              
   Legislative Council approve the agenda as presented.                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
   The motion passed without objection.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
   III. Approval of Minutes                                                                                                   
     a.  November 5, 2025, Meeting Minutes                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
   1:04:47 PM                                                                                                               
   SENATOR  STEDMAN  moved  and  asked  unanimous  consent  that                                                              
   Legislative Council  approve the  minutes  dated November  5,                                                              
   2025, as presented.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
   The motion passed without objection.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
   IV. Sanctioning of Charitable Events                                                                                       
     a. Alaska Sealife Center Annual Soiree                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
   1:05:15 PM                                                                                                               
   SENATOR  STEDMAN  moved  and  asked  unanimous  consent  that                                                              
   Legislative Council  ratify the  Chair's sanctioning  of  the                                                              
   following  charitable   event  per   AS  24.60.080(a)(2)(B):                                                               
   Alaska Sealife Center Annual Soiree.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR HANNAN  objected  for the  purpose of  discussion,  and                                                              
   stated that the  501(c)(3) status of  the Sealife Center  has                                                              
   been verified.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
   There was  no further  discussion, Chair  Hannan removed  her                                                              
   objection, and the sanctioning was ratified.                                                                               
V. Committee Business                                                                                                         
   a. Late Travel Reimbursement Claims                                                                                      
         i. Senator Cronk                                                                                                   
         ii. Representative Holland                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
1:07:07 PM                                                                                                                  
SENATOR  STEDMAN  moved  that   Legislative  Council  approve                                                                 
Senator  Cronk's   late  travel  reimbursement   request  for                                                                 
travel which took place from August 24 to August 26, 2025.                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR HANNAN objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
REPRESENTATIVE   STUTES  commented   that   this  issue   has                                                                 
occurred before  and noted there  were multiple  instances on                                                                 
the  agenda.  She   suggested  it  may  be   appropriate  for                                                                 
Legislative  Council,  Accounting, or  the  Rules offices  to                                                                 
send  reminders about  applicable  time limits  and the  need                                                                 
for more timely submissions.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR  HANNAN stated that she  has asked  that the  sixty-day                                                               
deadline  be emphasized  during annual  staff and new  member                                                                 
orientation, so  it is clearly communicated,  particularly to                                                                 
freshman members, and heard more than once.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
SENATOR STEDMAN asked  whether there was a written  excuse or                                                                 
explanation  for  the  late  request  by  Senator  Cronk,  or                                                                 
whether testimony would be provided.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR HANNAN  stated that  documentation in members'  packets                                                                 
shows  Accounting verified  the expenses  as legitimate.  She                                                                 
said  Senator   Cronk   was  listed   as  being  online   for                                                                 
questions, although  she did not  see him present,  and noted                                                                 
she  did not  know why  the request  was  submitted late  but                                                                 
that it was submitted in November.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
Seeing  no  further  discussion,  Chair  Hannan  removed  her                                                                 
objection and a roll call vote was taken.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
1:10:11 PM                                                                                                                  
YEAS: Representatives  Edgmon,  Kopp, Prax, Schrage,  Stutes,                                                                 
Mears,  Hannan;   Senators  Claman,  Giessel,   Gray-Jackson,                                                                 
Kiehl, Stedman                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
NAYS: none                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
The motion passed 12-0.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
   1:11:17 PM                                                                                                               
   SENATOR  STEDMAN  moved  that  Legislative  Council   approve                                                              
   Representative Holland's  late travel  reimbursement  request                                                              
   for travel which took place  July 16 through July 24;  August                                                              
   28; and September 14 through September 19, 2025.                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR HANNAN objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
   SENATOR  STEDMAN  commented  that  there  appeared  to  be  a                                                              
   lengthy list of  items and  asked whether any  were filed  on                                                              
   time, or  whether this  reflected a  large  volume of  travel                                                              
   with a few requests submitted late.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR  HANNAN   stated  that   she  believed  Representative                                                               
   Holland had been on  the line but  noted that he had  dropped                                                              
   off the call.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
   REPRESENTATIVE  KOPP stated  that  he  would  appreciate  any                                                              
   explanation from Representative Holland.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR HANNAN stated Council would take a brief at ease.                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
   1:12:24 PM                                                                                                               
   Council took a brief at ease.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
   1:14:15 PM                                                                                                               
   Council returned from a brief at ease.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR  HANNAN   asked  Representative   Holland  to   provide                                                              
   additional   explanation   for   the   three   late    travel                                                              
   reimbursement  requests, noting  that  both  Senator  Stedman                                                              
   and Representative Kopp had requested clarification.                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
   REPRESENTATIVE  HOLLAND  apologized  for  the  confusion  and                                                              
   said he  appreciated  the questions.  He explained  that  the                                                              
   reason for  his  late travel  claims  was  he had  set  aside                                                              
   several  reimbursement  requests  and  did  not  realize  the                                                              
   sixty-day requirement at  the time. He  said the three  trips                                                              
   were part  of  those delayed  submissions,  acknowledged  the                                                              
   oversight as  a lesson  learned,  and thanked  the  committee                                                              
   for its consideration.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
   Seeing  no  further  discussion,  Chair  Hannan  removed  her                                                              
   objection, and a roll call vote was taken.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
1:16:27 PM                                                                                                                  
YEAS: Representatives  Edgmon,  Kopp, Prax, Schrage,  Stutes,                                                                 
Mears,  Hannan;   Senators  Claman,  Giessel,   Gray-Jackson,                                                                 
Kiehl, Stedman.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
NAYS: none                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
The motion passed 12-0.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
   b. Anchorage LOB Security Contract Renewal No. 3                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:17:50 PM                                                                                                                  
SENATOR  STEDMAN  moved  that   Legislative  Council  approve                                                                 
Renewal No.  3 of  the contract  for armed security  services                                                                 
with Security Services  Northwest in an amount  not to exceed                                                                 
$199,449.20.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR  HANNAN objected  for  the  purpose of  discussion  and                                                                 
asked  Legislative  Affairs  Agency  Procurement  Officer  JC                                                                 
Kestel  to come  forward  to  provide information  about  the                                                                 
contract  and be  available  for  any questions  members  may                                                                 
have.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
JC KESTEL,  Procurement Officer,  Legislative Affairs  Agency                                                                 
(LAA), explained  that the Agency is seeking  to exercise the                                                                 
third  one-year  renewal  before   the  contract  expires  on                                                                 
December  31,   which  would  extend  the   contract  through                                                                 
December  31,   2026.  He  noted   that,  if   approved,  two                                                                 
additional  one-year renewal  options would  remain. He  said                                                                 
he was available to answer questions.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR  HANNAN took  a moment to  note that  Mike Warenda  was                                                                 
available  online  to answer  any  questions  related to  the                                                                 
security contract  and to announce that he is  retiring after                                                                 
working  at the  Anchorage  Legislative  Office Building  for                                                                 
twenty-four  years,  with  Friday  being his  last  day.  She                                                                 
thanked  him   for  his  service   to  the  Legislature   and                                                                 
congratulated him on his retirement.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
SENATOR  GRAY-JACKSON thanked  Mr. Warenda  for his  service,                                                                 
stating that  he has  been an  outstanding employee  and will                                                                 
be greatly missed.  She expressed her appreciation  on behalf                                                                 
of herself and her staff.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
REPRESENTATIVE  EDGMON  thanked  Mr.  Warenda  for  his  many                                                                 
years of  service, his  willingness to  work late hours  when                                                                 
needed, and said Mike will be missed.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
   SENATOR  CLAMAN  thanked  Mr.  Warenda  for  his exceptional                                                               
   service at  the  Anchorage  LIO. Noting  the  creativity  and                                                              
   dedication required  to address  daily challenges,  that  Mr.                                                              
   Warenda was  a strong  problem solver,  and  will be  greatly                                                              
   missed.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR HANNAN  commented that  while Mr.  Warenda will  likely                                                              
   not miss  late  night emergency  calls  related to  keys  and                                                              
   building issues  and winter maintenance,  he often addressed                                                               
   unexpected problems and solved  them creatively. She  thanked                                                              
   him for his service and wished him restful holidays.                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
   Seeing  no  further  discussion,  Chair  Hannan  removed  her                                                              
   objection and called for a roll call vote.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
   1:22:40 PM                                                                                                               
   YEAS: Representatives  Edgmon, Kopp,  Prax, Schrage,  Stutes,                                                              
   Mears,  Hannan;  Senators   Claman,  Giessel,  Gray-Jackson,                                                               
   Kiehl, Stedman                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
   NAYS: none                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
   The motion passed 12-0.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
    c. Capitol Security Screening Contract Renewal No. 1                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
   1:23:41 PM                                                                                                               
   SENATOR  STEDMAN  moved  that  Legislative  Council   approve                                                              
   Assignment and  Renewal No. 1  of the  contract for  security                                                              
   screening services to  Universal Protection Service,  Limited                                                              
   Partnership in an amount not to exceed $65,000.00.                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR HANNAN  objected  for  the purpose  of  discussion  and                                                              
   asked Mr. Kestel to provide information on the contract.                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
   MR.  KESTEL  explained   that  the   assignment  reflects   a                                                              
   corporate name  change from  Universal  Protection  Services,                                                              
   LP     to    Universal     Protection    Services,    Limited                                                              
   Partnership.   He  said  the  contractor  provided   security                                                              
   screening services  at the  Capitol at  the end  of the  last                                                              
   regular session  and  during the  special session.  He  added                                                              
   that  the  Agency  is   requesting  approval  to  renew   the                                                              
   contract  for  a  one-year  period  from  January  1  through                                                              
   December 31, 2026, to  continue providing security  screening                                                              
   services  at  the  Capitol   for  the  upcoming  legislative                                                               
   session.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
REPRESENTATIVE  STUTES  asked   what  services  the  contract                                                                 
covers and whether  it applies to Capitol  security personnel                                                                 
or to screening of individuals entering the building.                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
MR.  KESTEL  responded   that  the  contract   is  for  lobby                                                                 
screening  services,  with contractors  operating  the  x-ray                                                                 
machine and metal  detector used for the public.  In response                                                                 
to  a follow-up  question,  he  clarified that  the  contract                                                                 
provides screening  services during legislative  sessions and                                                                 
special sessions only.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR    HANNAN    restated    this    clarification    after                                                                 
Representative  Stutes indicated she  was unable to  hear the                                                                 
response.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
REPRESENTATIVE  STUTES   then  asked  whether   the  contract                                                                 
amounted to approximately $200,000 for a 120-day period.                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
MR.   KESTEL   clarified  that   the   previously   discussed                                                                 
Anchorage contract  totaled $199,449.20 and had  already been                                                                 
approved,   and    that   the   contract    currently   under                                                                 
consideration  is  for Capitol  security  screening  services                                                                 
only and is not to exceed $65,000 annually.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
REPRESENTATIVE   STUTES   thanked    Mr.   Kestel   for   the                                                                 
clarification.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
SENATOR  STEDMAN   stated  that  he  does  not   support  the                                                                 
proposed security  screening, expressing the view  that metal                                                                 
screening  at  the  Capitol  entrance  is  unnecessary  given                                                                 
existing   armed  security   and   staffing  throughout   the                                                                 
building.  He said  the risk  from  the public  is low,  past                                                                 
incidents  have  been  managed without  difficulty,  and  the                                                                 
measure is redundant  and could create barriers  for Alaskans                                                                 
seeking  to  meet  with  their   legislators  or  testify  in                                                                 
committees.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON  asked whether  Legislative Council  had                                                                 
previously approved  the use of  metal detectors  and whether                                                                 
the  current  action was  simply  a  renewal of  an  existing                                                                 
contract.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR  HANNAN confirmed  that  the policy  remains in  effect                                                                 
and that the  item before Council is the contract  renewal to                                                                 
carry out that policy.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
SENATOR  GRAY-JACKSON   stated  that  denying   the  contract                                                                 
extension  would effectively require  reconsideration  of the                                                                 
policy itself.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
   REPRESENTATIVE  EDGMON spoke  in  support  of  the  contract,                                                              
   citing prior  security concerns,  noting that  security is  a                                                              
   significant   issue   nationwide,    and   emphasizing    the                                                              
   importance of  preemptive  measures.  He stated  that  safety                                                              
   cannot  be  measured  by  cost  and  urged  Council  to  move                                                              
   forward with the contract.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
   Seeing  no  further  discussion,  Chair  Hannan  removed  her                                                              
   objection and a roll call vote was taken.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
   1:33:08 PM                                                                                                               
   YEAS: Representatives Edgmon,  Kopp, Schrage, Stutes,  Mears,                                                              
   Hannan; Senators Claman, Giessel, Gray-Jackson                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
   NAYS: Representative Prax; Senators Kiehl, Stedman                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
   The motion passed 9-3.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
   VI. Executive Session                                                                                                      
     a. Professional Services ContractingJoint Legislative                                                                  
        Task Force on Education Funding                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
   CHAIR  HANNAN  stated   that  Council   would  now  go   into                                                              
   Executive   session   to   discuss   professional    services                                                              
   contracting for the Education Funding Task Force.                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
   1:34:42 PM                                                                                                               
   SENATOR  STEDMAN  moved  that  Legislative  Council  go  into                                                              
   Executive Session  under  Uniform Rule  22(B)(1), discussion                                                               
   of  matters,   the  immediate   knowledge   of  which   would                                                              
   adversely affect  the  finances  of a  government  unit,  and                                                              
   22(B)(3),  discussion  of a  matter  that  may,  by  law,  be                                                              
   required  to  be  confidential.  The  following  people   may                                                              
   remain in  the room  or on-line  for the  executive  session:                                                              
   Santé Lesh,  JC  Kestel,  Ernest Daigle,  Tim  Powers,  Emily                                                              
   Nauman, Megan Wallace,  Andrew Dunmire,  any legislators  not                                                              
   on  Legislative  Council,   and  any  staff  of  Legislative                                                               
   Council members.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
   1:35:36 PM                                                                                                               
   Council went into Executive Session.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
   2:03:21 PM                                                                                                               
   Council came out of Executive Session.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
   2:03:26 PM                                                                                                               
   Roll was taken  to establish  a quorum. Present  at the  call                                                              
   were: Representatives  Edgmon, Kopp,  Prax, Schrage,  Stutes,                                                              
Mears,  Hannan;   Senators  Claman,  Giessel,   Gray-Jackson,                                                                 
Kiehl, Stedman.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
Twelve members present.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
   a. Professional Services ContractingJoint Legislative                                                                    
     Task Force on Education Funding                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
2:04:47 PM                                                                                                                  
SENATOR STEDMAN  moved that  Legislative Council,  under Sec.                                                                 
040(a)(1)  of the  Legislative  Procurement  Code, approve  a                                                                 
contract  between   the  Joint  Legislative  Task   Force  on                                                                 
Education Funding  and Matthew Turner dba Concept  of Degrees                                                                 
for  professional  services  for  the  creation  of  a  final                                                                 
report of  findings and recommendations  in an amount  not to                                                                 
exceed $70,000.00.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR  HANNAN objected  for  the  purpose of  discussion  and                                                                 
asked Mike  Mason, the  Task Force  Co-Chair Senator  Tobin's                                                                 
staff, to briefly summarize the contract request.                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
MICHAEL  MASON, staff  to Senator  Tobin,  noted for  Council                                                                 
that the  Task Force on  Education Funding was  authorized by                                                                 
House  Bill  57  and  is  co-chaired  by  Senator  Tobin  and                                                                 
Representative    Himschoot.   He    stated   the    proposed                                                                 
professional  services contract  would allow  the Task  Force                                                                 
to engage  a qualified  education policy  writer to  document                                                                 
the Task  Force's work  and assist  in drafting the  required                                                                 
final  report.  He noted  that  the  Task Force  must  submit                                                                 
findings  and  recommendations   by  the  first  day  of  the                                                                 
Thirty-Fifth  Alaska State  Legislature in  January 2027  and                                                                 
requested  approval of  the contract  with Matthew Turner  so                                                                 
work on the report can begin.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
SENATOR STEDMAN  asked how the $70,000 amount  was determined                                                                 
and expressed that the cost seemed high.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
MR.  MASON explained  that  the co-chairs  agreed  to a  flat                                                                 
rate  of $60,000  with Mr.  Turner to  cover report  writing,                                                                 
research, and outreach.  He said the contract  was structured                                                                 
as  a not  to  exceed  amount of  $70,000  to  include up  to                                                                 
$10,000  for travel and  related expenses.  He further  noted                                                                 
that the  contractor is  expected to  attend Task  Force site                                                                 
visits,  including recent  and upcoming  visits to  locations                                                                 
such  as Wasilla,  Anchorage, Kenai,  Fairbanks, and  Nenana,                                                                 
to observe and document Task Force activities.                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
REPRESENTATIVE  EDGMON stated  he does  not intend to  oppose                                                                 
the  contract   but  noted  concerns  given   current  fiscal                                                                 
   constraints. He compared  the proposal  to prior Task  Forces                                                              
   where legislative staff prepared  reports and said he  wanted                                                              
   to ensure his support was  based on a clear understanding  of                                                              
   the role and scope of the contractor.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
   REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  asked  whether  the flat  rate  contract                                                              
   accounted  for the  number  of  hours  involved  and  whether                                                              
   sufficient time was allocated  to produce a quality  product.                                                              
   He questioned  whether  the  proposed  amount  would  provide                                                              
   adequate value,  drawing  on his  experience with  the  long-                                                              
   term Fiscal  Plan  Task  Force, and  expressed  concern  that                                                              
   limited resources  could result  in a  report  that does  not                                                              
   receive meaningful consideration.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
   MR. MASON  stated that he  trusts the  judgment  of the  Task                                                            
   Force co-chairs  and  members, including  Senator  Tobin  and                                                              
   Representative Himschoot,  and  expressed confidence  in  the                                                              
   quality of the Task  Force's work and  the report due by  the                                                              
   start  of  the  2027   legislative  session.  He  said   that                                                              
   determining whether  there is sufficient  time and expertise                                                               
   rests with the Task Force  leadership and the qualifications                                                               
   of  the  contractor.  He   noted  that  the  contractor   has                                                              
   extensive   experience   preparing   similar   reports    for                                                              
   organizations such  as  the Alaska  Department  of  Education                                                              
   and Early  Development,  the  Association  of  Alaska  School                                                              
   Boards, and other  Alaska-based entities.  He concluded  that                                                              
   the contractor  is a  skilled writer  and educator  and  that                                                              
   the co-chairs believe he is well suited for the task.                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
   REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX  followed  up  asking  whether   Senator                                                              
   Kiehl  participated  in  discussions  on  the  contract   and                                                              
   whether Representative  Himschoot could speak  to the  issue.                                                              
   He seeks to  understand whether  the expected  hours of  work                                                              
   were considered,  noting  his assumption  that  a  consultant                                                              
   might charge  around $100 per  hour, and  expressed a  desire                                                              
   to ensure  there was  a realistic  expectation  of the  scope                                                              
   and value of the work.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
   REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT   responded   that  the   work   is                                                              
   expected to  occur over the  full duration  of the  contract,                                                              
   which exceeds  one year, and  will involve  several weeks  of                                                              
   effort completed  in small  increments. She  stated that  the                                                              
   contract is a  flat rate and was  not calculated by  specific                                                              
   hours.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
   REPRESENTATIVE PRAX asked whether the contractor understands                                                             
   the scope of  the work and agreed  compensation, and  whether                                                              
   there is a  shared understanding of  the time commitment,  so                                                              
   the rate does not become unreasonably low.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT stated that  the scope of  work was                                                                 
discussed  and  expected  to include  a  specific  number  of                                                                 
meetings   and  included  attending   Task  Force   meetings,                                                                 
meeting with  individual members,  consulting with  education                                                                 
stakeholders  and   tribes,  and  drafting  the   report  and                                                                 
recommendations. She  said the work will  require significant                                                                 
time  in small  increments  and that  the  effective rate  is                                                                 
expected to fall between $50 and $100 per hour.                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
Seeing  no  further  discussion,  Chair  Hannan  removed  her                                                                 
objection and a roll call vote was taken.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
2:17:36 PM                                                                                                                  
YEAS: Representatives  Edgmon,  Kopp, Prax, Schrage,  Stutes,                                                                 
Mears,  Hannan;   Senators  Claman,  Giessel,   Gray-Jackson,                                                                 
Kiehl, Stedman                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
NAYS: none                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
The motion passed 12-0.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
VII. Adjourn                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR   HANNAN  stated   that  Juneau   is  experiencing   an                                                                 
unusually  cold  and snowy  winter,  with record  days  below                                                                 
zero.  She wished  members a  warm and  happy holiday  season                                                                 
and said  she looked forward to  seeing everyone back  at the                                                                 
Capitol in about a month.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
SENATOR  GRAY-JACKSON   thanked  staff  for  their   work  in                                                                 
supporting   the  committee,   wished  members  a   wonderful                                                                 
holiday  season,  and  said  she  looked  forward  to  seeing                                                                 
everyone  in Juneau  for the  second session  of the  Thirty-                                                                 
Fourth Legislature.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
There being  no further  business before  the committee,  the                                                                 
Legislative Council meeting was adjourned at 2:20pm.                                                                          
2:20:25 PM