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01:32:55 PM Presentation(s): Workforce Challenges in Alaska from the Perspective of the Alaska Municipal League
02:29:53 PM SB55
02:41:10 PM Adjourn
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-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
Workforce Challenges in Alaska
from the Perspective of Alaska Municipal League
Presentation from Nils Andreassen, Executive
Director
*+ SB 55 EXTEND STATE MEDICAL BOARD TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
          SENATE LABOR AND COMMERCE STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                        
                       February 17, 2023                                                                                        
                           1:32 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Jesse Bjorkman, Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Click Bishop, Vice Chair                                                                                                
Senator Elvi Gray-Jackson                                                                                                       
Senator Kelly Merrick (via teleconference)                                                                                      
Senator Forrest Dunbar                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S):  WORKFORCE CHALLENGES IN ALASKA FROM THE                                                                       
PERSPECTIVE OF THE ALASKA MUNICIPAL LEAGUE                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 55                                                                                                              
"An Act extending the termination date of the State Medical                                                                     
Board; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD AND HELD                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB  55                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: EXTEND STATE MEDICAL BOARD                                                                                         
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) WIELECHOWSKI                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
02/01/23       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/01/23       (S)       L&C, FIN                                                                                               
02/17/23       (S)       L&C AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
NILS ANDREASSEN, Executive Director                                                                                             
Alaska Municipal League (AML)                                                                                                   
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented a slideshow on attracting talent.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
KALI SPENCER, Staff                                                                                                             
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Presented  SB   55  on  behalf  of  Senator                                                             
Wielechowski.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
KRIS CURTIS, Legislative Auditor                                                                                                
Division of Legislative Audit                                                                                                   
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Reviewed the  sunset audit during the hearing                                                             
on SB 55.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SYLVAN ROBB, Director                                                                                                           
Division of Corporations, Business and Professional Licensing                                                                   
Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development                                                                      
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions on SB 55.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:32:04 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  JESSE  BJORKMAN  called  the  Senate  Labor  and  Commerce                                                             
Standing Committee meeting  to order at 1:32 p.m.  Present at the                                                               
call  to  order  were   Senators  Dunbar,  Gray-Jackson,  Bishop,                                                               
Merrick (via teleconference), and Chair Bjorkman.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S):    WORKFORCE  CHALLENGES  IN  ALASKA  FROM  THE                                                               
PERSPECTIVE OF THE ALASKA MUNICIPAL LEAGUE                                                                                      
   PRESENTATION(S):  WORKFORCE CHALLENGES IN ALASKA FROM THE                                                                
           PERSPECTIVE OF THE ALASKA MUNICIPAL LEAGUE                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:32:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN  announced a presentation on  workforce challenges                                                               
from the Alaska Municipal League.  He asked Mr. Andreassen to put                                                               
himself on the record and begin his presentation.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:33:20 PM                                                                                                                    
NILS  ANDREASSEN,  Executive  Director, Alaska  Municipal  League                                                               
(AML),  Juneau,  Alaska,  presented  a  slideshow  on  attracting                                                               
talent.  He   stated  that  he  intends   to  approach  workforce                                                               
challenges from a municipal and state government perspective.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN  advanced to slide  2, "When Boomers  Bail," which                                                               
is  the title  of  a  book by  Mark  Lautman.  The book  foresees                                                               
Americans having  concerns about attracting talent  in the coming                                                               
decades  because there  are insufficient  new workers  to replace                                                               
the baby boomers that age-out and retire. Slide 2 reads:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                       When Boomers Bail                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     As  the industrialized  world recovers  from the  great                                                                    
     recession, we  face an even  graver economic  threat. A                                                                    
     structural shortage of qualified  workers is creating a                                                                    
     zero-sum labor  market that  is forcing  communities to                                                                    
     steal talent  from each other  in order to  survive and                                                                    
     grow. The cause of  this impending economic disaster: a                                                                    
     baby  boom generation  who didn't  have enough  kids to                                                                    
     replace themselves,  and an  education system  that has                                                                    
     failed  to  properly  prepare   students  for  the  new                                                                    
     demands  of  today's market.  Add  to  that 78  million                                                                    
     soon-to-be-retired Baby Boomers who  will go from high-                                                                    
     earning producers  to resource-sapping  dependents, and                                                                    
     the situation worsens. Any  community unable to attract                                                                    
     and  hold   talent  will  join  a   growing  number  of                                                                    
     economically doomed  places where  economic development                                                                    
     is impossible.  This suddenly  makes deciding  where to                                                                    
     live or invest a much higher-stakes game.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Mark Lautman  Economic Architect  2011                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:34:54 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. ANDREASSEN reviewed a chart  on slide 3, "Alaska Unemployment                                                               
by Industry -  A Year Ago," categorizing  employment by industry.                                                               
It  shows a  decrease in  the number  of employees  from December                                                               
2019 to December 2021. He said  Mr. Lautman called this issue out                                                               
over a  decade ago,  and many  Alaskans responded.  The Anchorage                                                               
Economic  Development  Corporation  responded by  developing  the                                                               
Live, Work, Play  approach to recruitment and  retention, and the                                                               
Juneau  Economic Council  refocused  its  strategy on  attracting                                                               
talent  in a  new kind  of way.  It is  much more  the case  that                                                               
employers  have had  to go  out of  their way  to attract  talent                                                               
since 2011; no  longer are there enough workers.  An Alaska Small                                                               
Business Development  Center (SBDC) chart indicates  national job                                                               
postings have increased by 121.59 percent since February 2020.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN spoke to the  graph on slide 4, "Alaska Government                                                               
Employment Trend." He  said "pandemic rebound" was  brought up at                                                               
the  AML  Conference  in  Juneau  a year  ago.  State  and  local                                                               
governments  experienced a  greater  variation  and less  rebound                                                               
than other  sectors. It was  evident to all attendees  that there                                                               
is work to  do. Over time there has been  a decline in employment                                                               
in  the public  sector.  The  state has  gone  from about  85,000                                                               
employees to  under 80,000 since  2012. The decline  in employees                                                               
is a  longer-term trend attributable  to more than  the pandemic,                                                               
the fiscal crisis,  and the pension system. It is  hard to unpack                                                               
causality because there are a lot of factors.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:38:12 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.   ANDREASSEN  spoke   to  the   graph  on   slide  5,   "PERS                                                               
Participation," stating  state and  local governments  have fewer                                                               
employees today than a decade ago,  which has been the case for a                                                               
while. The  state is conscious  of decreasing  PERS participants.                                                               
He remarked  that fewer participants mean  fewer contributions to                                                               
the  Public Employees  Retirement  System and  fewer net  pension                                                               
liability   payments  to   pay  down   the  unfunded   liability.                                                               
Understanding what  this does to the  Public Employees Retirement                                                               
System (PERS) and Teachers Retirement System (TRS) is important.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN  advanced to slide  6, "Systems Review."  He spoke                                                               
about the book The Signal and The  Noise. He said it is difficult                                                               
to know  which recruitment  and retention piece  to focus  on and                                                               
which will  make a  difference because  there is  a lot  of noise                                                               
surrounding the issue. He reviewed slide 6:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Demographics Competition      Boomers                                                                                      
                                   Talent                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Circumstance                  Public Health                                                                                
                                   Economic Crisis                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Competition                   Public vs. Private                                                                           
                                   Infrastructure                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:40:43 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  ANDREASSEN  reviewed  slide 7,  "AML  Classifieds,"  stating                                                               
recruitment is  challenging at the  municipal level. He  said AML                                                               
has run a classified page for  years. There are two times as many                                                               
listings  today as  a  year ago.  There are  four  times as  many                                                               
listings today as three years ago.  A response to a recent survey                                                               
of members indicates that vacancy  rates are 15 percent higher on                                                               
average at the  municipal level and as much as  45 percent higher                                                               
in  some communities.  He said  he knows  of finance  departments                                                               
with 11 vacancies  and three employees. Competition  is a reality                                                               
for many types of positions.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:41:41 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. ANDREASSEN  reviewed slide  8, "Not all  jobs are  equal." It                                                               
contains a  diagram that explains  competition does not  apply to                                                               
all job types or positions  the same way. The following Institute                                                               
of  Social and  Economic  Research (ISER)  excerpt describes  the                                                               
diagram:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     The  figure  shows  how  pay  and  total  compensation                                                                     
     adjusted for characteristics  of workerscompared  among                                                                    
     state and local government  workers and private workers                                                                    
     overall, and among workers  in specific occupations, in                                                                    
     the period 2009-2013.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Government  workers  on  average earned  8%  less  than                                                                    
     private workers.  But because government  benefits were                                                                    
     more valuable,  there was no significant  difference in                                                                    
     total   compensation   (wages  plus   benefits)   among                                                                    
     government and private workers overall.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     For  a number  of occupations  in the  lower- and  mid-                                                                    
     ranges of  the pay  scale, government wages  were lower                                                                    
     than  or about  the same  as in  private industry.  But                                                                    
     government  benefits were  typically more  valuable, so                                                                    
     total compensation  for those occupations was  equal to                                                                    
     or more than in private industry.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Health-care  support  jobs   didn't  fit  that  general                                                                    
     pattern:  both   wages  and  total   compensation  were                                                                    
     significantly higher among government workers.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     In higher-paying occupationsfor   example, physical and                                                                    
     social  sciences and  managementboth   wages and  total                                                                    
     compensation were  considerably lower  among government                                                                    
     workers.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     "Overpaid  or Underpaid?  Public Employee  Compensation                                                                    
     in  Alaska,"   July  2016.  Institute  of   Social  and                                                                    
     Economic Research                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:43:18 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  ANDREASSEN  advanced to  slide  9  and reviewed  "Public  v.                                                               
Private" sector graphs, comparing  wage and benefit data compiled                                                               
by the U.S. Bureau of  Economic Analysis (BEA). The public sector                                                               
has not kept up in recent  years. Though both sectors have scaled                                                               
up,  the private  sector  has outpaced  the  private. The  public                                                               
sector generally has a better  benefit structure, but the private                                                               
sector has recently  been outcompeting in wages  and benefits. He                                                               
pointed  out  trends on  the  chart,  noting that  Alaska  public                                                               
sector wages and benefits decreased  or stagnated after 2006, but                                                               
the private sector increased over that same period.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:44:39 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  ANDREASSEN reviewed  the pie  chart on  slide 10,  "Pensions                                                               
Perspective - Employers."  He said it is  important to understand                                                               
the  different employer  groups within  PERS  and that  TRS is  a                                                               
separate  system. The  State of  Alaska and  its component  units                                                               
make the  greatest payroll contribution.  He said that 64  of 165                                                               
cities  and  boroughs participate  in  PERS;  some have  actively                                                               
sought to get out over the  years. The pie chart shows an "other"                                                               
category  of PERS  participants,  including housing  authorities,                                                               
the  National Marine  Fisheries Service  (NMFS), and  others. The                                                               
University of  Alaska (UA) makes  up four percent of  the system.                                                               
He  said it  takes 77  employers to  make up  one percent  of the                                                               
system. They pay  net pension liability, past  service costs, and                                                               
their  actual rate.  This group  is referred  to as  prisoners of                                                               
PERS  because they  cannot afford  to  stay in,  and they  cannot                                                               
afford to  get out.  It is  a very small  portion of  the overall                                                               
annual payroll  for PERS. This  gives a better sense  of employer                                                               
group within the overall system.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:47:13 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GRAY-JACKSON  commented that  she  did  not realize  the                                                               
number of cities  and boroughs participating in PERS  was so low.                                                               
She  asked which  retirement  programs are  offered  in place  of                                                               
PERS.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDREASSEN expressed  his  belief that  cities  that do  not                                                               
participate  in PERS  offer other  types of  benefits or  none at                                                               
all. Many  of these  communities operate  from budgets  that have                                                               
been diminished over the years.  He said small communities do not                                                               
have  the resources  to  contribute. Some  may  offer a  deferred                                                               
compensation plan or an employee-only contribution plan.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GRAY-JACKSON  commented that she was  the finance manager                                                               
for Akutan, which  had about 50 employees, and the  city was able                                                               
to enroll them in PERS.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN said AML conducts  a yearly salary survey. AML has                                                               
greater  detail on  benefits and  compensation  for those  cities                                                               
that respond.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:49:09 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  ANDREASSEN reviewed  a  rate structure  chart  on slide  11,                                                               
"Pensions Perspectives  - Rate Setting."  The chart shows  that a                                                               
PERS employer  with one TIER IV  employee pays the costs  for the                                                               
defined  benefit  (DB) plan  and  the  defined contribution  (DC)                                                               
plan. He emphasized  the employer pays the normal  costs for both                                                               
plans even  though, in this scenario,  there is only one  TIER IV                                                               
employee. He believed non-state employers  paid for both plans to                                                               
prevent  plan bias,  so employers  would not  remove an  employee                                                               
based on that municipality's preference for a given plan.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN said  the "past service" DB pension  plan shown on                                                               
slide 11  has the  highest annual  cost at  16.33 percent  of the                                                               
total   actuarial  rate.   This  year,   the  Alaska   Retirement                                                               
Management  Board  (ARMB) actuarial  rate  would  have been  27.6                                                               
percent, but it was reduced  2.5 percent to 25.10 percent, saving                                                               
the state roughly  $30.6 million. The reduction did  not go below                                                               
22 percent  so other  employers aren't  affected, but  it's still                                                               
very  high  for most  participating  employers.  The 2.5  percent                                                               
reduction  for non-state  employers  is $24.3  million, which  is                                                               
what it would take to reduce  22 percent to 19.5 percent for non-                                                               
state employees.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:51:59 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN asked  Mr. Andreassen  if he  could make  a finer                                                               
point about the relevance of the changes shown on the chart.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN replied that two things happen on this chart:                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1. The ARMB  proposed that the state no longer  contribute to the                                                               
health plan,  saving the  state 2.5  percent. The  board proposed                                                               
this because  the health plan  is overfunded and is  projected to                                                               
be  overfunded in  the  coming years.  This  reduction saves  the                                                               
state $30.6 million.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2.  In  considering how  the  2.5  percent reduction  could  have                                                               
benefitted  the non-state  employer rate,  he calculated  what it                                                               
would take  to bring down  the contribution to a  more manageable                                                               
percentage than 22.  A rough calculation shows it  would take $10                                                               
million for a 1 percent reduction.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:53:13 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN sought  confirmation  that the  state could  have                                                               
paid in  at last year's rate  to buy down the  non-state employer                                                               
PERS  rate,  reducing  the  amount  of  money  local  communities                                                               
contribute  and  decreasing the  tax  burden  on local  citizens.                                                               
However, the state chose not to do it.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN replied, exactly. It  is a choice. The state could                                                               
do it  this year; it could  do it annually. The  contribution has                                                               
been larger  in the past  to get  the net pension  liability down                                                               
and bring  the rate  down. The 22  percent rate is  a cap,  not a                                                               
floor. He  said that buying  it down  could affect the  tax base,                                                               
give more room for other  types of benefits and compensation, and                                                               
provide other incentives for  non-state recruitment and retention                                                               
efforts.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:54:17 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BISHOP commented that the  state put a $3 billion deposit                                                               
into the  retirement system in  2018. If  the state had  not made                                                               
that payment,  then the general  fund would have been  looking at                                                               
about a  $1.2 billion annual deposit  into that fund. He  said he                                                               
was a proponent  of depositing the overage into PERS  to pay down                                                               
the  liability last  year, getting  communities  closer to  where                                                               
they want to go with city hall.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:55:02 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. ANDREASSEN reviewed slide 12,  "Pensions Perspective - System                                                               
Issues."  He said  all conversations  about  new pensions  should                                                               
address these  system issues, which  are from the  perspective of                                                               
the employer:                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     • Salary floor (2008) adds another $1.5 - 2.5 million                                                                      
        to employer costs                                                                                                       
        • No incentive for right-sizing or efficiency                                                                           
     • Employers in arrearages about $26.2 million                                                                              
        • Prisoners of PERS  can't afford to stay in, nor                                                                       
          get out                                                                                                               
     • Employer delinquencies about $3.5 million                                                                                
       • Evaluate over time to see stressors on employers                                                                       
     • 11-15% penalty for late payment                                                                                          
         • Termination studies apply only to non-State                                                                          
        employers                                                                                                               
        • By class, which for small employers could be one                                                                      
          employee                                                                                                              
        • Net pension liability follows employee, making                                                                        
        retiree hiring difficult                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:59:23 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  ANDREASSEN reviewed  slide 13,  "Current AML  proposals." He                                                               
said AML proposed  a number of items over the  last four years to                                                               
address these issues:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
        • Update to 2008 floor  move forward and rolling                                                                        
        average                                                                                                                 
     • Termination studies for State and by employee                                                                            
        • Evaluate vacancy rates                                                                                                
     • 22 percent a cap not a floor                                                                                             
        • Pay down net pension liability by increased                                                                           
          additional state contribution = $10 million for                                                                       
          1%                                                                                                                    
     • Retiree hiring ability without accrued liability                                                                         
     •  Opt-out for  small  or  stressed  employers     exit                                                                    
        strategy                                                                                                                
     •  Five-year audit of  terminated employer  net pension                                                                    
        liability                                                                                                               
        • State contribution to avoid spread, based on % of                                                                     
          payroll                                                                                                               
     •  Adjust high interest  rate on  past due  payments to                                                                    
        reasonable amount                                                                                                       
     •  Locked in net  pension liability option,  ability to                                                                    
        pay down, and exit date                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:03:41 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. ANDREASSEN  advanced to  slide 14,  "In considering  DB?." He                                                               
remarked that AML members are  concerned and fairly divided about                                                               
whether there should be a new  DB plan. He spoke to these points,                                                               
stating he  could not offer  the committee  an AML position  on a                                                               
new defined benefit program:                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     • AML members divided on question                                                                                          
     •  Real and valid  concerns expressed by  educators and                                                                    
        public safety employees                                                                                                 
     •  Resolution  expressing   concern   about   liability                                                                    
        exposure                                                                                                                
     •  If specific to  employee group,  opt in  at employer                                                                    
        level                                                                                                                   
     • For employers it applies to, ringfence liability                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Fundamentally:                                                                                                             
     • Address systems issues                                                                                                   
     • Free up greater % of employer payrolls                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN stated that as  the legislature considers a new DB                                                               
plan,  AML  would  like  to   see  the  following  system  issues                                                               
addressed: an  attempt to bring  down the net  pension liability,                                                               
the  needs  of  smaller  employers within  the  system,  and  the                                                               
ability to compete and attract  talent. The greater the amount of                                                               
payroll  freed  up,  the  greater the  ability  to  offer  better                                                               
benefits,  compensation, and  retention  packages.  He said  more                                                               
employers  could  develop   creative  recruitment  and  retention                                                               
solutions  if less  of  their  payroll went  to  the net  pension                                                               
liability.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:07:04 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. ANDREASSEN  advanced to slide 15,  "Questioning Assumptions."                                                               
He said  the issue  of whether  or not  a new  DB plan  is needed                                                               
requires the legislature to  wrestle with higher-level questions,                                                               
which he brought up on slide 15:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     • What does employee need?                                                                                                 
        • Do all types of employees need the same thing?                                                                        
     • What does employer need?                                                                                                 
        • How do we differentiate between employers?                                                                            
     • What is the role of the State?                                                                                           
     • Are there pension system issues to be addressed?                                                                         
     • How do we evaluate benefits and costs of DB and DC?                                                                      
     •  What is  fair  allocation  of liability,  cost,  and                                                                    
        benefit?                                                                                                                
     •  What are the full suite of options available for How                                                                    
        does retirement fit into recruitment and retention?                                                                     
        retirement?                                                                                                             
     •  How  does  retirement   fit  into   recruitment  and                                                                    
        retention?                                                                                                              
     • What are we missing?                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:08:06 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. ANDREASSEN advanced to slide  16, "Are Pensions the Answer to                                                               
Public Sector Worker Shortages?" He  said the website Route Fifty                                                               
tracks  what is  happening  in government  nationwide. It  posted                                                               
that  84  percent  of  millennials working  in  state  and  local                                                               
governments said  their pension  benefit was  why they  stayed in                                                               
the public  sector. He said it  is fairly compelling and  part of                                                               
the conversation to attract talent. Slide 16 reads:                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "Recently,  state and  local  governments have  offered                                                                    
     more   incentives  like   sign-on  bonuses   and  other                                                                    
     benefits in the hiring phase  to get more applicants in                                                                    
     the  door.  But these  are  short-term  fixes that  may                                                                    
     temporarily  help with  attracting  applicants but  not                                                                    
     with retention.  Given the  high costs  associated with                                                                    
     employee turnover, a long-term solution is needed."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:08:42 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  ANDREASSEN  advanced  to  a  chart  on  slide  17,  "Are  we                                                               
competing for talent?" He said  that Alaska is not competing. The                                                               
chart compared  the difference between  employment growth  in the                                                               
U.S.  and Alaska  since 2015.  The U.S.  has almost  recovered to                                                               
2015  levels after  March 2020,  but Alaska  is falling  short of                                                               
those.  The chart  shows Alaska  has not  been attracting  talent                                                               
since  2015. He  said the  state  has been  losing public  sector                                                               
employees since well before that.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:09:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. ANDREASSEN advanced to slide  18, "Are we competing?" He said                                                               
the  problem   Alaska  has  attracting  talent   is  bigger  than                                                               
compensation  and benefits.  Alaska  is last  in  the nation  for                                                               
gross domestic product  (GDP) growth from 2015 -  2018. Alaska is                                                               
last in  the country in  many categories, which explains  why the                                                               
state  cannot compete  for  talent. Alaska  is  not competing  in                                                               
schools, health,  childcare, growth, cost of  living, or housing.                                                               
Alaska's  population  rose  slightly  in 2022,  but  more  people                                                               
continue to leave than arrive  for the tenth consecutive year. He                                                               
said all these  factors explain why Alaska is not  competing as a                                                               
state or as  employers. It is not just a  pension or compensation                                                               
issue; it  includes quality of life.  He said the state  needs to                                                               
solve all  these issues in  some way  if Alaska wants  to compete                                                               
for talent in the coming years.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:11:28 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. ANDREASSEN  advanced to slide 19,  "Tackling Competition." He                                                               
reviewed  slide 19,  stating local  governments are  part of  the                                                               
answer when it  comes to tackling competition and is  part of the                                                               
solution for components, like:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     1. Incentivize and support solutions to address childcare                                                                  
        deficit                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     2. Incentivize and support solutions to address housing                                                                    
        affordability and sufficiency                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     3. Right size education funding, including to address                                                                      
        maintenance backlog                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     4. Lifecycle approach for community and economic development                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     5. Lower energy and healthcare costs  transactional costs                                                                  
        of living and doing business                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     6. Establish consistent fiscal policy that envisions growth                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     7. Ensure public sector employers have capacity to increase                                                                
        compensation packages                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     8. Maximize ability to leverage federal infrastructure                                                                     
        investment                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:14:28 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR DUNBAR  drew attention to  the sixth point, asking  for a                                                               
finer point on  that statement. He wondered  whether AML supports                                                               
a broad-based revenue source and,  if so, what revenue source AML                                                               
members prefer.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN replied  AML has a resolution  supporting a broad-                                                               
based tax. The resolution speaks  to a preference for income, and                                                               
AML would  want certain factors  considered for a sales  tax. AML                                                               
proposed an  Eight Stars of  Gold plan consisting of  revenue and                                                               
other  fiscal  pieces.  He  distinguished  between  a  consistent                                                               
fiscal policy  that grows the budget  and the finer point  of one                                                               
that envisions  the future of  Alaska with families  living here,                                                               
attracting  a workforce  that contributes  to  the community  and                                                               
economic  development.   The  state   needs  a   government  that                                                               
addresses the needs of Alaskans.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DUNBAR said  he  agrees  with that  to  a point.  However,                                                               
education is  the key to  attracting and keeping Alaskans  in the                                                               
state. Young families  are attracted to good schools,  one of the                                                               
state's  largest expenses  in most  localities. He  asked how  to                                                               
link up  the idea of more  families here and a  growing education                                                               
budget when Alaska does not have a revenue source to support it.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN answered revenue is  critical to that piece, or at                                                               
least a  budget that  adequately supports  the needs.  Revenue is                                                               
the way to do that.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:17:58 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. ANDREASSEN  reviewed slide  20, "An  Alaska that  Will Grow."                                                               
This  excerpt  is  from  a   resolution  adopted  by  the  Alaska                                                               
Constitutional  Convention delegates  and talks  about an  Alaska                                                               
that will grow:                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     We bequeath  to you  a state that  will be  glorious in                                                                    
     her achievements, a  homeland filled with opportunities                                                                    
     for living,  a land where  you can worship and  pray, a                                                                    
     country  where ambitions  will be  bright and  real, an                                                                    
     Alaska that will grow with you as you grow.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
      We trust you; you are our future. We ask you to take                                                                      
     tomorrow and dream; we know that you will see visions                                                                      
     we do not see.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
      We are certain that in capturing today for you, you                                                                       
     can plan and build.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     You are Alaska's children...                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN  said this resolution  inspires him, and  he wants                                                               
to live in  a state that grows with its  citizens and meets their                                                               
needs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN  spoke to a  chart on  slide 20 that  compared the                                                               
number of  people that  turned 18  years old  to the  number that                                                               
turned 65 years  old between 1990 and 2021. The  chart shows that                                                               
in 1990  the number of  people turning  18 was almost  four times                                                               
greater than the number turning  65. The number of people turning                                                               
65  grew steadily  over  the  years so  that  by  2020 they  were                                                               
practically equal to the number of people turning 18.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:20:02 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BISHOP drew  attention to the question on  slide 18, "Are                                                               
we competing?" He said part of  the solution is on the slide deck                                                               
right in front of the committee,  pointing out the cost of living                                                               
in Alaska. He  said this is a  target; the goal is  to reduce the                                                               
cost of living in Alaska.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:20:40 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN drew  attention to  ringfencing on  slide 14.  He                                                               
harkened back to  the legacy retirement tiers. He  asked if there                                                               
had been conversations  about ringfencing them and  how the state                                                               
arrived  at  an  unfunded  liability   rate  of  22  percent  for                                                               
municipalities.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN replied he would  offer his understanding but that                                                               
the Division  of Retirement  and Benefits  and the  Department of                                                               
Revenue  could articulate  that history  better. He  believed the                                                               
original setup  in the 80s  and 90s was an  individual accounting                                                               
of  employers.  However, the  system  shifted  to a  cost-sharing                                                               
pension after  Mercer grossly articulated  what should  have gone                                                               
into   the   pension   system.   Ringfencing   and   individually                                                               
identifying how  much net pension liability  should be attributed                                                               
to a  single employer became  impossible within  the cost-sharing                                                               
pension system.  Even today, the Government  Accounting Standards                                                               
Board (GASBI)  does a  net pension  liability accrual  because it                                                               
would be  hard to unpack  whose liability  is whose. It  does not                                                               
follow the employers;  it is shared across  employers and creates                                                               
a lot of messiness. The  state's mismanagement of the plan during                                                               
those decades  ultimately led to  the net pension  liability. The                                                               
state took  responsibility for contributions above  22 percent in                                                               
a  negotiated agreement  between the  state as  an employer,  the                                                               
plan sponsor, and non-state employers.  He contended the state is                                                               
positioned to think differently about lowering the 22 percent.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:23:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN sought  clarification  that local  municipalities                                                               
were to  be responsible  for their own  costs and  liabilities at                                                               
one point  in time, but  the state co-mingled  contributions, and                                                               
it became unclear who had paid what for whom.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN answered that is  how he understands it, but there                                                               
might be differences of opinion about it.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:24:38 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MERRICK (via  teleconference)  referred  to a  statement                                                               
that AML  supports a broad-based  tax. She asked whether  AML has                                                               
taken a  position on the  size or  the formula for  the permanent                                                               
fund dividend (PFD).                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDREASSEN replied  that this is one of the  eight points AML                                                               
made on  fiscal policy, but AML  has not taken a  position on the                                                               
size  of  the  PFD.  He  expressed his  belief  that  AML  has  a                                                               
resolution  that  states  the   legislature  should  work  toward                                                               
consensus on this issue. He added  that AML also has a resolution                                                               
on  the percent  of  market  value and  its  sustainability as  a                                                               
revenue source.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:26:24 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
               SB  55-EXTEND STATE MEDICAL BOARD                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:29:53 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN   reconvened  the   meeting  and   announced  the                                                               
consideration  of  SENATE  BILL  NO. 55  "An  Act  extending  the                                                               
termination date  of the State  Medical Board; and  providing for                                                               
an effective date."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
He invited Kali Spencer to present  the bill on behalf of Senator                                                               
Wielechowski.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:30:28 PM                                                                                                                    
KALI  SPENCER, Staff,  Senator  Bill  Wielechowski, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska,  gave a brief overview of  SB 55 and                                                               
its purpose. She paraphrased the sponsor statement:                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SB 55  will extend  the termination  date of  the State                                                                    
     Medical Board to June 30, 2031.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     The  State Medical  Board (board)  effectively licensed                                                                    
     physicians,   osteopaths,  and   podiatrists.  However,                                                                    
     emergency  courtesy licenses  for physician  assistants                                                                    
     were  not issued  in accordance  with state  law during                                                                    
     the COVID-19  pandemic. This  was remedied  in November                                                                    
     2021  when  corrective  action  was  taken  by  sending                                                                    
     letters  to non-compliant  licensees. Furthermore,  the                                                                    
     board developed and adopted  regulations to protect the                                                                    
     public,  improve  the  licensing  process,  and  expand                                                                    
     access  to  care  during  the  COVID-19  public  health                                                                    
     emergency.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:31:23 PM                                                                                                                    
     The last  extension of the  board was in 2020  when the                                                                    
     Division  of Legislative  Audit proposed  a termination                                                                    
     date  that was  three  years less  than the  eight-year                                                                    
     maximum  allowed  per  statute.   The  Senate  Labor  &                                                                    
     Commerce Committee then amended  the bill to reduce the                                                                    
     termination  date  by an  additional  two  years for  a                                                                    
     sunset date  of June  30, 2023.  Since 2020,  the board                                                                    
     has  addressed all  recommendations  from the  previous                                                                    
     audit by adopting regulations to  guide the process for                                                                    
     registering with the  Controlled Substance Prescription                                                                    
     Database   (CSPD);  developed   procedures  to   ensure                                                                    
     licensees with a  Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA)                                                                    
     number  register  in  the CSPD;  and  worked  with  the                                                                    
     Division  of  Corporations, Business  and  Professional                                                                    
     Licensing's   (DCBPL)   director   to   establish   and                                                                    
     implement  procedures  to   ensure  the  board  reports                                                                    
     disciplinary actions in accordance with state law.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     As a  result of  these successful  implementations, the                                                                    
     Division  of Legislative  Audit proposed  in July  2022                                                                    
     that  the legislature  extend  the board's  termination                                                                    
     date to June  30, 2031, which is  the maximum extension                                                                    
     allowed per statute.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     I respectfully  request support  from my  colleagues to                                                                    
     pass SB 55 in a timely manner.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:32:47 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN invited Kris Curtis to put herself on the record                                                                 
and begin her review of the audit.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:33:03 PM                                                                                                                    
KRIS CURTIS, Legislative Auditor,  Division of Legislative Audit,                                                               
Alaska  State Legislature,  Juneau, Alaska,  reviewed the  sunset                                                               
audit during the hearing on  SB 55. She paraphrased the following                                                               
prepared statement:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The Division  of Legislative  Audit conducted  a sunset                                                                    
     audit of  the State Medical  Board. The audit  is dated                                                                    
     July 2022.  A sunset  audit determines whether  a board                                                                    
     or commission  serves the public's interest  and should                                                                    
     be extended.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     The audit concludes that the  board serves the public's                                                                    
     interest by developing  and implementing regulations to                                                                    
     protect the public, improve  the licensing process, and                                                                    
     expand  access  to   healthcare  during  the  pandemic.                                                                    
     Further,  the board  serves  the  public's interest  by                                                                    
     effectively   licensing  physicians,   osteopaths,  and                                                                    
     podiatrists; however,  emergency courtesy  licenses for                                                                    
     physician  assistants  were  only sometimes  issued  in                                                                    
     accordance with state law.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:33:48 PM                                                                                                                    
     The  Division of  Legislative Audit  found the  board's                                                                    
     workload  increased  significantly   during  the  audit                                                                    
     period  due to  the  COVID-19 pandemic.  The board  met                                                                    
     frequently,  sometimes  weekly, to  consider  pandemic-                                                                    
     related regulations.  Further, the number  of licensing                                                                    
     applications  that the  board  considered increased  by                                                                    
     approximately  28 percent  when compared  to the  prior                                                                    
     2019  sunset  audit. The  increase  was  the result  of                                                                    
     practitioners moving  to Alaska  to help meet  the need                                                                    
     for healthcare services  and out-of-state practitioners                                                                    
     providing  services via  technology (commonly  referred                                                                    
     to as  telehealth). The  dramatic increase  in workload                                                                    
     occurred  immediately after  the governor  replaced all                                                                    
     the board  members. Board  turnover and  vacancies were                                                                    
     common during the audit period.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Even   with  these   challenges,  the   board  operated                                                                    
     effectively,  and the  division recommends  the maximum                                                                    
     extension, which is eight years.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:34:47 PM                                                                                                                    
     She  walked the  committee through  the standard  audit                                                                    
     information,  stating page  8 of  the audit  report has                                                                    
     the schedule  of licensing activity. As  of March 2022,                                                                    
     there were 5,878 active  licenses and permits. Licenses                                                                    
     increased  by  28  percent compared  to  FY  2019.  The                                                                    
     schedule of  revenues and expenditures  is on  page 10.                                                                    
     The prior 2019 audit found that  at the end of FY 2018,                                                                    
     this  board had  a deficit  of approximately  $800,000.                                                                    
     Licensing fees  increased in FY  2019, and  the deficit                                                                    
     decreased to  approximately $488,000  by the end  of FY                                                                    
     2020.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     License  revenues increased  substantially  due to  the                                                                    
     increased number  of applications  during FY  2021. The                                                                    
     board  was allotted  approximately $215,000  in general                                                                    
     funds to replace revenue lost  due to the licensing fee                                                                    
     freeze that the governor  mandated to help mitigate the                                                                    
     financial impact  of the pandemic. Due  to the increase                                                                    
     in  revenues  and  the general  fund  allocation,  this                                                                    
     board  had a  surplus of  approximately $506,000  as of                                                                    
     March 2022.  The board's  schedule of  fees is  on page                                                                    
     11.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:36:13 PM                                                                                                                    
     The audit makes two  recommendations that begin on page                                                                    
     14.   First,   the   Division  of   Legislative   Audit                                                                    
     recommends  the board's  executive director  ensure all                                                                    
     board  meetings   have  adequate  public   notice.  The                                                                    
     division  reviewed 32  meetings held  during the  audit                                                                    
     period and found six were  either not public noticed or                                                                    
     not  public   noticed  correctly.  Second,   the  audit                                                                    
     recommends  the  board   ensure  emergency  regulations                                                                    
     comply with statute. The  Division of Legislative Audit                                                                    
     found  the courtesy  license  regulation for  physician                                                                    
     assistant  emergency failed  to require  the applicants                                                                    
     have   a  collaborative   plan  with   the  supervising                                                                    
     physician  as  required  by statute.  DCBPL  identified                                                                    
     this deficiency  within seven  months of  its effective                                                                    
     date and took corrective action.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Management's response  to the audit begins  on page 25,                                                                    
     and  general  management  concurred with  the  report's                                                                    
     conclusion and recommendations.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:37:30 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN invited Sylvan Robb to put herself on the record                                                                 
to answer questions.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:38:06 PM                                                                                                                    
SYLVAN  ROBB, Director,  Division of  Corporations, Business  and                                                               
Professional  Licensing, Department  of  Commerce, Community  and                                                               
Economic Development, Juneau, Alaska, introduced herself.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:38:10 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN  asked whether  DCBPL  had  the number  of  staff                                                               
necessary  and the  infrastructure  in place  for  this board  to                                                               
handle the increased workload throughout the pandemic.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ROBB  replied  that  the   division  suffered  severe  staff                                                               
shortages  during  the   pandemic,  especially  the  professional                                                               
licensing team,  with up  to a 35  percent vacancy.  The division                                                               
was short-staffed,  and it was  very challenging to  get licenses                                                               
out.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BJORKMAN asked if the situation is substantially fixed.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ROBB replied  that the  division has  made great  strides in                                                               
getting  back  to  adequate  staffing  levels.  The  professional                                                               
licensing team has gone from a high  of more than 35 percent to a                                                               
20  percent vacancy  rate. The  division has  about a  14 percent                                                               
vacancy rate today and is hiring  people daily. She said that the                                                               
division is getting on top of it.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:39:25 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN  asked if she sees  interstate telehealth services                                                               
substantially  changing  the   division's  workload  and  license                                                               
processing as it relates to the State Medical Board.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. ROBB  answered that the division  has not seen a  huge change                                                               
recently. The division is gathering  baseline data to see how the                                                               
telehealth bill  the legislature  passed last year  affects DCBPL                                                               
over time.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:40:20 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR BJORKMAN held SB 55 in committee.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:40:50 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:41:10 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  BJORKMAN reconvened  the meeting.  There being  no further                                                               
business to  come before the committee,  Chair Bjorkman adjourned                                                               
the Senate Labor and Commerce Standing Committee meeting at 2:41                                                                
p.m.                                                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
02.17.23 AML Presentation to SL&C.pdf SL&C 2/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
AML Presentation to SL&C 02.17.23
SB 55 Version A.PDF SL&C 2/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 55
SB 55 Sponsor Statement Version A.pdf SFIN 3/7/2023 9:00:00 AM
SL&C 2/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 55
SB 55 Fiscal Note-DCCED-CBPL 01.10.23.pdf SL&C 2/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 55
SB 55 Supporting Document - State Medical Board Audit, July 2022.pdf SFIN 3/7/2023 9:00:00 AM
SL&C 2/17/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 55