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01/31/2024 01:30 PM Senate JUDICIARY

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02:19:20 PM Start
02:20:22 PM EO 133 Eliminating the Criminal Justice Information Advisory Board
02:46:00 PM EO 135 Eliminating the Alaska Safety Advisory Council
03:00:07 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ EO 133 ELIMINATING THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE TELECONFERENCED
INFORMATION ADVISORY BOARD
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ EO 135 ELIMINATING THE ALASKA SAFETY ADVISORY TELECONFERENCED
COUNCIL
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                        January 31, 2024                                                                                        
                           2:19 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Jesse Kiehl, Vice Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Cathy Giessel                                                                                                           
Senator Löki Tobin                                                                                                              
Senator James Kaufman                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Matt Claman, Chair                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
EO 133 ELIMINATING THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE INFORMATION ADVISORY                                                                    
BOARD                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EO 135 ELIMINATING THE ALASKA SAFETY ADVISORY COUNCIL                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
LISA PURINTON, Director                                                                                                         
Division of Statewide Services                                                                                                  
Department of Public Safety (DPS)                                                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Delivered a presentation on EO 133 on behalf                                                              
of the administration.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
JAMES COCKRELL, COMMISSIONER                                                                                                    
Department of Public Safety                                                                                                     
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Offered invited testimony in support of EO                                                                
133.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ELAINE BANDA, Consultation and Training Chief                                                                                   
Alaska Occupational Safety and Health (AKOSH)                                                                                   
Division of Labor Standards and Safety                                                                                          
Department of Labor and Workforce Development (DOLWD)                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Introduced  EO   135  on  behalf   of  the                                                             
administration and answered questions.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:19:20 PM                                                                                                                    
VICE-CHAIR  JESSE  KIEHL  called the  Senate  Judiciary  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 2:19  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order  were  Senators  Giessel,   Tobin,  and  Vice-Chair  Kiehl.                                                               
Senator Kaufman arrived immediately thereafter.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
^EO  133 ELIMINATING  THE CRIMINAL  JUSTICE INFORMATION  ADVISORY                                                               
BOARD                                                                                                                           
            EO 133 ELIMINATING THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE                                                                         
                   INFORMATION ADVISORY BOARD                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:20:22 PM                                                                                                                    
VICE-CHAIR  KIEHL   announced  the  consideration   of  Executive                                                               
Order (EO)  133,  Eliminating  the Criminal  Justice  Information                                                               
Advisory Board.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:20:24 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAUFMAN joined the meeting.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:21:02 PM                                                                                                                    
LISA   PURINTON,  Director,   Division  of   Statewide  Services,                                                               
Department of  Public Safety (DPS), Anchorage,  Alaska, delivered                                                               
a  presentation  on  EO  133 on  behalf  of  the  administration,                                                               
stating  this  order  would  primarily  affect  the  Division  of                                                               
Statewide Services.  The Department of Public  Safety already has                                                               
statutory  guidelines that  cover  some of  the duties  currently                                                               
handled  by  the  Criminal  Justice  Information  Advisory  Board                                                               
(CJIAB). This  EO proposes transferring  all the duties  of CJIAB                                                               
to DPS.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:21:37 PM                                                                                                                    
PURINTON  moved  to  slide 2  and  discussed  duties  statutorily                                                               
required of the commissioner:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Public Safety                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
        Duties of the Commissioner as outlined in Alaska                                                                        
     Statute (AS) 12.62.110                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
          • To develop and operate a criminal justice                                                                           
        information system to serve as the state's central                                                                      
       repository of criminal history record information                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
      • To cooperate with other agencies of the state, the                                                                      
        criminal record  repositories of  other states,  the                                                                    
        national repository maintained by the Federal Bureau                                                                    
        of  Investigation   (FBI),  and   other  appropriate                                                                    
        systems to:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
        • Develop   and    operate   effective   interstate,                                                                    
          national, and international systems of criminal                                                                       
          identification, records, and statistics                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:23:37 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. PURINTON stated that DPS and contributing agencies adhere to                                                                
several statutes that:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
- ensure the repository's data is complete and accurate,                                                                        
- regulate  access  to information and when  information can be                                                                 
  released,                                                                                                                     
- prescribe  procedures  for  correcting  errors  in  criminal                                                                  
  records,                                                                                                                      
- in  rare  instances, address  sealing and purging  criminal                                                                   
  justice information.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:23:40 PM                                                                                                                    
MS PURINTON said slide 3 outlines the statutory cites that                                                                      
govern these functions:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Statutory and Regulatory Requirements                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
       The department maintains and operates the state's                                                                        
       criminal history repository based on statutory and                                                                       
     regulatory requirements:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
         • AS 12.62.120. Reporting of criminal justice                                                                          
        information                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     •  AS 12.62.150.  Completeness, accuracy,  and security                                                                    
        of criminal justice information                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     •  AS 12.62.160.  Release and  use of  criminal justice                                                                    
        information                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     •  AS  12.62.170.   Correction   of  criminal   justice                                                                    
        information                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     •  AS   12.62.180.   Sealing   of    criminal   justice                                                                    
        information                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     •  AS   12.62.190.   Purging   of    criminal   justice                                                                    
        information                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:24:13 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. PURINTON  moved to slide  4 and  provided an overview  of the                                                               
department's central repository replacement project:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Executive Order (EO) 133                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Governor Dunleavy  issued EO  133 on January  15, 2024,                                                                    
     to  transfer   the  duties  of  the   Criminal  Justice                                                                    
     Information  Advisory Board  (CJIAB) to  the Department                                                                    
     of Public Safety (DPS)                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     •  Amends  AS  12.62  by  adding  a   new  section,  AS                                                                    
        12.62.105, requiring DPS to advise criminal justice                                                                     
        agencies on matters pertaining to the development                                                                       
        and operation of the central repository                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
        • DPS is currently undertaking a criminal justice                                                                       
          information system project  to replace the central                                                                    
          repository  and associated  systems; advising  all                                                                    
          stakeholders of the  project and providing routine                                                                    
          updates regarding the project                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:25:17 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  PURINTON stated  the  central repository  sits  on a  legacy                                                               
mainframe system that  has been around since the  late 1980s. DPS                                                               
has  undertaken  a  five-year project  to  replace  that  system,                                                               
primarily  using federal  funding. She  expressed her  belief the                                                               
department is in  year three of a five-year  project. The project                                                               
is  in the  discovery  phase, which  involves deconstructing  the                                                               
last 40 years  of mainframe adaptations to make it  into a modern                                                               
system. The  department is working  with the vendor to  ensure no                                                               
degradation  of  existing  data  and that  the  new  platform  is                                                               
adaptable to current technology platforms.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:26:10 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. PURINTON  listed the following  partner agencies  that access                                                               
the central repository:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
- the Department of Law,                                                                                                        
- the Alaska Court System,                                                                                                      
- local police departments, and                                                                                                 
- other state agencies.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PURINTON said  these entities  access the  system through  a                                                               
user-direct interface  or an automated  interface with  the other                                                               
department's  internal   data  management  system.   The  central                                                               
repository system connects the  department to nationwide systems,                                                               
enabling  staff  to  find  warrants,  convictions,  and  driver's                                                               
licenses  in  other  states.  She  stated  that  DPS  has  worked                                                               
diligently with  partner agencies  to keep  them apprised  of the                                                               
project  and  how the  new  system  will  affect them.  DPS  will                                                               
conduct  training  with partner  agencies  as  the project  nears                                                               
testing and completion.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:27:22 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. PURINTON moved to slide 5:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Executive Order (EO) 133                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
      • Amends AS 12.62.100 by removing subsection two and                                                                      
        the requirement for the DPS Commissioner to consult                                                                     
        with the CJIAB regarding the department's criminal                                                                      
        justice information systems                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
      • Amends AS 12.62.120(a) by removing the requirement                                                                      
        for the DPS Commissioner  to consult with  the CJIAB                                                                    
        regarding  which   criminal  justice   agencies  are                                                                    
        responsible for reporting information to the central                                                                    
        repository                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
      • Amends AS 12.62.150(c) by removing the requirement                                                                      
        for DPS to provide an audit report to the CJIAB                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     • Repeals AS 12.62.100 establishing the CJIAB, and AS                                                                      
        12.62.900(3) defining the CJIAB                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. PURINTON  noted that while  AS 12.62.150(c) would  remove the                                                               
requirement that  DPS provide audit  findings to CJIAB,  it would                                                               
not  remove   the  requirement  to  conduct   those  audits.  She                                                               
clarified this change cleans up  statutory language pertaining to                                                               
the  elimination  of  CJIAB,  including  removing  the  reporting                                                               
requirement to it.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:28:26 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. PURINTON moved to slide 6:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     CJIAB: Ineffective and Duplicative                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     • The CJIAB last met on October 15, 2019                                                                                   
        • Only four meetings have been held since 2014                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     • The department has an agreement with the FBI and is                                                                      
        designated as the criminal justice information                                                                          
        services agency (CSA) for Alaska                                                                                        
        • Requires the department to ensure standards are                                                                       
          established for criminal justice information                                                                          
          systems in Alaska                                                                                                     
        • The department and the FBI conduct audits to                                                                          
          ensure compliance, which requires training and                                                                        
          ongoing communication with criminal justice                                                                           
          agencies                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. PURINTON reiterated the audit  requirement is not going away.                                                               
She  explained that  the Federal  Bureau  of Investigation  (FBI)                                                               
will  conduct  audits every  three  years  to  ensure DPS  is  in                                                               
compliance. The  FBI also  requires the  State to  audit criminal                                                               
justice agencies to ensure data is complete and accurate.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:31:08 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  TOBIN  brought  up  fingerprinting,  noting  that  CJIAB                                                               
discussed  it in  the  last few  council  meetings. She  inquired                                                               
about  the   department's  strategy   for  moving   forward  with                                                               
fingerprinting matters in the absence of CJIAB.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:31:30 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. PURINTON responded, providing a  few examples of how required                                                               
fingerprints  might  be  overlooked   or  omitted,  and  how  DPS                                                               
collaborates with other agencies to ensure they are obtained.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
•  Fingerprinting is  a significant  issue  for criminal  history                                                               
   records.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
•  Sometimes individuals  fail  to  follow up  on  fingerprinting                                                               
   requirements after being cited or summoned to court.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
•  Some  individuals  may   not  get  fingerprinted   during  the                                                               
   correctional facility  booking  process  for various  reasons.                                                               
   Without fingerprint support and  biometrics to prove  who that                                                               
   person is,  DPS cannot  disseminate  that information  outside                                                               
   Alaska. This poses significant issues  when considering severe                                                               
   felony person crimes.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:32:30 PM                                                                                                                    
•  DPS diligently tries to ensure fingerprints  are in the system                                                               
   and works with its  agencies. The department  manages criminal                                                               
   history records  and checks  for  fingerprints upon  receiving                                                               
   felony judgments from courts. If fingerprints are missing, DPS                                                               
   reaches out  to the  Department  of Corrections  to close  the                                                               
   omission gaps and ensure fingerprints are obtained.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
•  DPS collaborates with the  Division of Probation,  Parole, and                                                               
   Pretrial, Department  of Corrections,  to obtain  fingerprints                                                               
   for individuals under supervision.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
•  DPS utilizes  grant opportunities  like the  National Criminal                                                               
   History Improvement Program (NCHIP) to acquire additional Live                                                               
   Scan  devices  for  agencies.  The   department  assists  with                                                               
   funding, policy  improvements,  training,  and maintenance  of                                                               
   Live Scan devices for agencies.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:34:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. PURINTON explained that DPS has  a lot of formal and informal                                                               
groups it  meets with on a  routine basis. She moved  to slide 7,                                                               
which lists some of those partner organizations:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Other Criminal Justice Advisory Groups                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     • The Alaska Criminal Justice Data Analysis Commission                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     • The Criminal Justice Working Group                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     • Alaska's Multi-Agency Justice Integration Consortium                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
        • Various national working groups for improving                                                                         
        criminal justice information systems                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
        • FBI Advisory Policy Board                                                                                             
        • The National Consortium for Justice Information                                                                       
          and Statistics (SEARCH)                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:35:02 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  PURINTON  said  these   groups  regularly  convene  monthly,                                                               
quarterly,  or  semi-annually.   DPS  continuously  improves  the                                                               
accuracy  and   completeness  of  criminal   justice  information                                                               
systems,  particularly  the  central repository,  which  contains                                                               
criminal  history records.  She  said that  the department  works                                                               
with  national and  state organizations  to ensure  it uses  best                                                               
practices, benefiting from the successes of other states.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:35:43 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. PURINTON moved to slide 8:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Criminal Justice Information Data Sharing                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
      • Interoperability between the department's central                                                                       
        repository and several state and local criminal                                                                         
        justice agencies                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     • Informal and formal data sharing agreements in place                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
      • Internal and external audits are conducted on the                                                                       
        department's central repository                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:36:13 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. PURINTON concluded the presentation  by stating that CJIAB is                                                               
somewhat duplicative  as DPS already  performs many  board duties                                                               
and exceeds board requirements. She  asserted that the absence of                                                               
CJIAB  would have  no  adverse  effect on  DPS  nor increase  its                                                               
workload. She moved to slide 9 to show the benefits of EO 133:                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     EO 133 Benefits in Summary                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     • Streamlined operations                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     • Continued expertise and communication                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     • Board inactivity                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     • No increase in workload                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     • Developed communication strategies                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     • Cost efficiency                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     • Enhanced accountability                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:38:36 PM                                                                                                                    
VICE-CHAIR KIEHL pointed  out that the purpose of  CJIAB seems to                                                               
ensure  communication  and  collaboration  before  decisions  are                                                               
made.  He   brought  up  financial  and   other  implications  of                                                               
unilateral decision  making, noting that entities  other than DPS                                                               
could bear  the cost and  burden of those decisions.  He wondered                                                               
how to prevent  a top-down approach to  decision-making without a                                                               
formalized, collaborative structure like CJIAB in place.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. PURINTON answered that the  department has historically had a                                                               
good,  collaborative relationship  with these  organizations. She                                                               
said that  CJIAB has not  been effective. Local  governments have                                                               
not  had a  voice  in almost  a decade,  yet  the department  has                                                               
maintained  a good  relationship  with  these organizations.  She                                                               
said that  DPS is  responsive to the  needs of  organizations and                                                               
listed the following examples of collaboration with them:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
- DPS just completed a  project working with tribal organizations                                                               
  that allowed the  department to input tribal  protective orders                                                               
  into the system. Initially, the system was configured for State                                                               
  protective  orders and  lacked  the  capability to  accommodate                                                               
  anything beyond State law. DPS worked with tribal organizations                                                               
  to enhance the system's functionality and add tribal protective                                                               
  orders for  those opting  in. These  orders were  structured to                                                               
  closely resemble State-issued orders.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:40:55 PM                                                                                                                    
- DPS  partnered with  the Alaska Court  System (ACS).  The court                                                               
   system developed a bail repository pilot project in Fairbanks,                                                               
   and it is  a phenomenal system.  Bail conditions are  input in                                                               
   the court  bail repository  for  persons out  on release.  DPS                                                               
   configured  the  central  repository  to   interface  with  it                                                               
   directly. The outcome of  this project provided  officers with                                                               
   real-time access to data in the field.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
-  The  Municipal Prosecutor's  Office  had  a project  with  the                                                               
   Anchorage Police  Department to  enter domestic  violence bail                                                               
   conditions. DPS set up coding and shortcuts to make data entry                                                               
   easier for the Municipal  Prosecutor's Office. The  outcome of                                                               
   this  project  was  that  it  alerted  law  enforcement  about                                                               
   individuals on domestic violence bail conditions with relevant                                                               
   contacts without the need for extensive data entry.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. PURINTON  said that  DPS is  responsive to  the needs  of its                                                               
partner  organizations to  streamline  processes  and ensure  the                                                               
system works for everyone's needs.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:42:11 PM                                                                                                                    
VICE-CHAIR  KIEHL   shared  an  anecdote  from   when  CJIAB  met                                                               
regularly.  He recounted  a situation  where law  enforcement had                                                               
expected  to have  certain  data from  the  Alaska Public  Safety                                                               
Information Network  (APSIN), only to discover  that the Division                                                               
of Motor  Vehicles (DMV) had stopped  reporting that information.                                                               
He  expressed his  understanding  that having  a  group that  met                                                               
regularly was  instrumental in identifying data  omissions before                                                               
they became problematic.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:42:55 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  PURINTON   said  that   she  is   not  familiar   with  that                                                               
specifically; however,  her division has  worked with DMV  on the                                                               
repository   modernization    project.   DMV    provides   driver                                                               
information that is input into  the repository, which is critical                                                               
data for law enforcement.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. PURINTON illustrated how DPS  worked collaboratively with DMV                                                               
to resolve a vehicle registration  issue. DMV changed its process                                                               
for  non-expiring,  lifetime  vehicle  registrations.  A  problem                                                               
arose from the  way the division input data  into the repository.                                                               
Law enforcement could only see  the last expiration, not the non-                                                               
expiring registration  which is grounds  for a traffic  stop. She                                                               
worked with  DMV to resolve data  mapping issues and that  is how                                                               
the department  resolves problems. If the  problem is unresolved,                                                               
it is elevated  up through the chain of command  until it is. She                                                               
said  agencies are  rarely  at  an impasse,  but  when they  are,                                                               
problems  could  be   elevated  up  the  command   chain  to  the                                                               
commissioner level.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:45:00 PM                                                                                                                    
JAMES  COCKRELL,  Commissioner,   Department  of  Public  Safety,                                                               
Anchorage,  Alaska, offered  invited testimony  in support  of EO                                                               
133, stating  that DPS is  saturated with too many  councils. The                                                               
department  is  past  capacity, and  meetings  are  seldom  fully                                                               
attended.  He  said  that  he  has  complete  confidence  in  the                                                               
Department of  Public Safety. The department's  history proves it                                                               
works with  other agencies to  ensure the implementation  of data                                                               
and  procedures  for public  safety.  EO  133  is good  for  DPS,                                                               
relieving it of one less zero-funded responsibility.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
^EO 135 ELIMINATING THE ALASKA SAFETY ADVISORY COUNCIL                                                                          
     EO 135 ELIMINATING THE ALASKA SAFETY ADVISORY COUNCIL                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:46:00 PM                                                                                                                    
VICE-CHAIR  KIEHL   announced  the  consideration   of  Executive                                                               
Order 135, Eliminating the Alaska Safety Advisory Council.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:46:37 PM                                                                                                                    
ELAINE   BANDA,   Consultation   and   Training   Chief,   Alaska                                                               
Occupational  Safety  and  Health (AKOSH)  Program,  Division  of                                                               
Labor  Standards and  Safety, Department  of Labor  and Workforce                                                               
Development  (DOLWD), Anchorage,  Alaska,  introduced  EO 135  on                                                               
behalf of  the administration. She  gave a brief overview  of the                                                               
Alaska Safety  Advisory Council (ASAC), explained  its connection                                                               
with the Governor's Safety and  Health Committee, and her role in                                                               
both organizations.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. BANDA  said ASAC  is made  up of  volunteers from  around the                                                               
state. They  share a  common interest  in Alaska's  workforce and                                                               
its  safety and  health. These  volunteers are  appointed by  the                                                               
governor and  come from various  industries, many of whom  are in                                                               
the safety  industry. For several  years, their  primary function                                                               
has  been hosting  the Governor's  Safety and  Health Conference.                                                               
Under  the  umbrella  of  ASAC,   the  council  seeks  additional                                                               
volunteers  to  assist  with sponsoring  the  annual  conference.                                                               
These  members   make  up  the   Governor's  Safety   and  Health                                                               
Committee. She  said that she  has participated in  the committee                                                               
since 2012, and in 2020, the  governor appointed her to ASAC. She                                                               
reiterated  that  the primary  responsibility  of  ASAC  and  the                                                               
Governor's  Safety and  Health  Committee has  been  to host  the                                                               
annual conference.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:48:32 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  BANDA referenced  the  statute  in EO  135  that lists  ASAC                                                               
responsibilities.  AS  18.60.030  outlines  these  duties,  which                                                               
include:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
-  Plan and  execute  programs, such  as  education and  accident                                                               
   prevention campaigns.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
- Study  ways to  prevent accidents on  streets, on  highways, in                                                               
   the water, and in homes.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
-  Confer  with  public  agencies  responsible  for  safeguarding                                                               
   accidents, specifically with  the Department of Transportation                                                               
   and  Public Facilities  (DOTPF), the  Department of  Education                                                               
   and Early Development  (DEED), the [Department of Health], and                                                               
   various other state entities.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:49:37 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. BANDA said  that ASAC offers recommendations  on state policy                                                               
and programs  for the  safety and health  of Alaskans.  She noted                                                               
that the membership of ASAC  and the Governor's Safety and Health                                                               
Committee  are  predominately made  up  of  individuals who  work                                                               
full-time  jobs.  They volunteer  their  spare  time to  work  on                                                               
hosting  the conference  and preparation  for it  takes at  least                                                               
seven  or eight  months. Volunteers  do not  have enough  time to                                                               
fulfill the duties and responsibilities  outlined in statute. She                                                               
emphasized her  longstanding involvement  on the  committee since                                                               
2012,  asserting   that  the  only  function   that  the  council                                                               
currently   fulfills  is   the   conference.   She  stated   that                                                               
transferring  ASAC  responsibilities  to DOLWD  will  ensure  the                                                               
department  carries  out all  the  duties  beyond organizing  the                                                               
conference.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:51:59 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  TOBIN said  this is  helpful to  hear. She  acknowledged                                                               
that managing  volunteers can  be challenging.  She said,  on the                                                               
one hand, the  work falls upon a handful of  people when there is                                                               
a shortage  of volunteers.  On the  other hand,  volunteers bring                                                               
expertise,  insight,  and  citizen  engagement,  particularly  in                                                               
government.  She said  that she  is  a big  advocate for  citizen                                                               
engagement. She  said ASAC's membership is  derived from multiple                                                               
sectors: industry,  municipal government, and other  sectors. She                                                               
asked  how the  department would  source that  kind of  expertise                                                               
without volunteers on the council.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:52:53 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. BANDA replied, making these points:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
- DOLWD would be accountable.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
- Volunteers would continue to participate.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
- Volunteers  would perform  all the functions  that ASAC  is not                                                               
   doing.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
- An entity would oversee the work to ensure it is on task.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
- Oversight would ensure all duties are fulfilled.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:53:57 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. BANDA  explained that Alaska  Occupational Safety  and Health                                                               
(AKOSH) already performs  many ASAC functions. She  said that she                                                               
represents  the  consultation and  training  half  of AKOSH;  the                                                               
other is  enforcement. Volunteers  do not  have the  authority to                                                               
enforce.  AKOSH  is fulfilling  that  duty,  not volunteers.  She                                                               
explained  that  AKOSH  is  already  in  the  community  working,                                                               
campaigning, and consulting and has programs in place, such as:                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
- the Voluntary Protection Program,                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
- the SHARP Program, and                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
- the CHASE Program                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. BANDA said  the department would streamline  some duties. She                                                               
pointed  out that  someone needs  to ensure  the work  gets done,                                                               
that is not happening right now.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:54:59 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  TOBIN  said her  first  job  out  of  college was  as  a                                                               
volunteer coordinator  for Boys and Girls  Clubs. She appreciated                                                               
the   organization   for   providing  her   with   training   and                                                               
professional development.  It took  effort, and  the organization                                                               
paid  someone to  perform the  job. She  pointed out  that EO 135                                                               
does not  have a fiscal  note outlining  the cost to  do critical                                                               
volunteer management work. She asked her to expound on funding.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. BANDA replied that the  budget always provides source funding                                                               
for the  Governor's Safety and  Health Conference. She  said that                                                               
she would get back to the committee with specific costs.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:56:20 PM                                                                                                                    
VICE-CHAIR  KIEHL noted  that, if  he  interprets the  governor's                                                               
budget correctly, there is some  funding available. He asked what                                                               
the  position count  is for  the Alaska  Safety Advisory  Council                                                               
(ASAC).                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. BANDA  replied ASAC has  14 members from  various industries.                                                               
The  department  would  consider  creating  the  following  three                                                               
positions if  ASAC were eliminated and  its functions transferred                                                               
to DOLWD:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
- A liaison-type position.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
- A project manager.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
- An administrative assistant.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. BANDA  said that she does  not know the cost  associated with                                                               
these three positions.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:57:33 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GIESSEL  asked whether ASAC  has a full complement  of 14                                                               
members.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BANDA replied  no. She  stated  her belief  that a  generous                                                               
estimate would be 8  or 9 members. She said a  core group of five                                                               
active members  consistently participate, including  herself. She                                                               
emphasized the challenge of fulfilling  the council's duties with                                                               
a shortage of members and doing this while having a State job.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:58:25 PM                                                                                                                    
VICE-CHAIR KIEHL thanked  Ms. Banda for her  presentation and for                                                               
taking committee questions.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:00:07 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
VICE-CHAIR   KIEHL  adjourned   the  Senate   Judiciary  Standing                                                               
Committee meeting at 3:00 p.m.                                                                                                  

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Department of Public Safety Executive Order 133 Presentation to Senate Judiciary 1.31.2024.pdf SJUD 1/31/2024 1:30:00 PM
EO 133