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03/11/2015 01:30 PM Senate JUDICIARY

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01:36:31 PM Inmate Deaths in the Alaska Prison System
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         March 11, 2015                                                                                         
                           1:35 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lesil McGuire, Chair                                                                                                    
Senator John Coghill, Vice Chair                                                                                                
Senator Mia Costello                                                                                                            
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Peter Micciche                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
LEGISLATIVE HEARING: INMATE DEATHS IN THE ALASKA PRISON SYSTEM                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
RON TAYLOR, Commissioner                                                                                                        
Department of Corrections                                                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Participated in the discussion on in-                                                                    
custody deaths in the Alaska Prison System.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
LAURA BROOKS, M.S., L.P.A                                                                                                       
Health Care Administrator                                                                                                       
Department of Corrections                                                                                                       
POSITION STATEMENT:  Participated in the discussion on in-                                                                    
custody deaths in the Alaska Prison System.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHET WILLIAMS, representing himself                                                                                             
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Participated in the discussion on in-                                                                    
custody deaths in the Alaska Prison System.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JOHN R. SCOTT, representing himself                                                                                             
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:    Participated  in the  discussion  on  in-                                                             
custody deaths in the Alaska Prison System.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:35:29 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  LESIL   MCGUIRE  called  the  Senate   Judiciary  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 1:35  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order were  Senators Wielechowski,  Coghill, Costello,  and Chair                                                               
McGuire.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^Inmate Deaths in the Alaska Prison System                                                                                      
           Inmate Deaths in the Alaska Prison System                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR MCGUIRE announced the business before the committee would                                                                 
be a discussion on inmate deaths in the Alaska Prison System.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:36:31 PM                                                                                                                    
RON  TAYLOR,   Commissioner,  Department  of   Corrections  (DOC)                                                               
thanked the  committee for calling  the hearing. He  talked about                                                               
the public being  interested whenever a death occurs  in a prison                                                               
and the tremendous impact it  has throughout the system. It does,                                                               
however,  provide an  opportunity  to review  procedures and  ask                                                               
what could have  been done differently to have  a better outcome.                                                               
He stressed  that no one  should have  to worry because  a family                                                               
member or friend  is under DOC's custody and  care. Responding to                                                               
the  four  deaths  or  serious   incidents  that  occurred  since                                                               
December when  he became commissioner,  he asked for all  data on                                                               
deaths inside a facility over the  past five years. The intent is                                                               
to look  at whether  policies and  procedures are  being followed                                                               
and if  there might  be better processes  because even  one death                                                               
that occurs inside a facility is one too many.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
LAURA BROOKS, M.S., L.P.A,  Health Care Administrator, Department                                                               
of  Corrections (DOC),  discussed  the primary  reasons that  DOC                                                               
can't provide  an immediate answer  when an inmate  death occurs.                                                               
First, DOC  relies on  the state medical  examiner to  perform an                                                               
autopsy before  drawing any conclusions.  If a  toxicology report                                                               
is ordered,  it can take  4-6 weeks  to get the  results. Second,                                                               
DOC  has to  follow the  privacy laws  which means  that personal                                                               
information  cannot be  released to  anyone until  the court  has                                                               
appointed a personal representative of the estate.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
She noted that  she was asked to discuss how  inmates access care                                                               
while in custody. She explained  that inmates go through a health                                                               
care screening  when they're arrested  and DOC relies  heavily on                                                               
the inmate's oral history. She noted  that an inmate can put in a                                                               
health request anytime  they have a health concern.  If it's more                                                               
urgent,  the  correction's  officer  on  the  floor  can  make  a                                                               
referral  to  medical  or  call  for  emergency  care.  She  also                                                               
described the  sick call procedure  that is available in  all the                                                               
facilities.  In the  smaller facilities  10-15  inmates might  be                                                               
seen each day  and 50-60 per day in the  larger facilities. There                                                               
are  also referrals  for mental  health and  dental, and  outside                                                               
referrals  are  made  if  needed.  In  smaller  communities  this                                                               
generally  means  the inmate  will  be  triaged  at the  ER.  She                                                               
explained  that  DOC  also  has  a  number  of  release  planning                                                               
programs, a  medical social worker,  and mental health  staff who                                                               
work  every   day  to  ensure   that  the  transition   from  the                                                               
correctional  center back  to  the community  is  as seamless  as                                                               
possible.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE asked how many remands there are.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. BROOKS replied there are 38,000 per year.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR added that represents 22,000 individuals.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:48:33 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI   asked  if   there  is   a  constitutional                                                               
obligation to provide medical care for inmates.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. BROOKS confirmed that inmates  have a constitutional right to                                                               
health care.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked how much that costs.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BROOKS reported  that  DOC's inmate  health  care budget  is                                                               
about $43 million a year.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI   asked  if  there  is   coordination  with                                                               
Medicare or Indian Health Care if the inmate is eligible.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BROOKS explained  that, by  federal regulation,  inmates are                                                               
not eligible  for either Indian  Health Care or VA  benefits. DOC                                                               
becomes  the payer  of first  resort and  the federal  government                                                               
becomes  the  payer  of  last resort.  The  coordination  is  for                                                               
continuity of care.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked about Medicare and Medicaid coverage.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. BROOKS explained  that Medicare doesn't pay  for services for                                                               
an inmate, and there are  limited categories by which an offender                                                               
could  qualify for  coverage under  Medicaid. She  said that  may                                                               
change if Medicaid  expansion happens because it  will change the                                                               
type of  inmate who would be  eligible for Medicaid. It  would be                                                               
more  income-based  instead  of  by those  specific  and  limited                                                               
categories.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  asked if  she had an  estimate of  how much                                                               
Medicaid expansion would save.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. BROOKS  said looking at  the data  from the past  three years                                                               
and  based  on  the  categories that  would  apply  for  Medicaid                                                               
expansion,  it appears  that  about $7  million  could have  been                                                               
billed to  Medicaid. The  caveat is that  the inmate  health care                                                               
budget  is fluid  depending on  the  kind of  offender and  their                                                               
medical  issues. She  called  it a  fair  assessment because  the                                                               
inmate population probably won't get healthier or smaller.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:52:16 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked if substance  abuse treatment would be                                                               
covered under Medicaid expansion.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. BROOKS explained that none  of the services that DOC provides                                                               
and none of the specialty  out-patient services would be paid for                                                               
by Medicaid.  An inmate  would have  to be in  a hospital  for 24                                                               
hours before Medicaid could be billed.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COSTELLO said  she was  surprised to  learn that  Indian                                                               
Health  Service coverage  doesn't  extend to  an individual  once                                                               
they're  incarcerated.  It  becomes  the  responsibility  of  the                                                               
state. She expressed interest in  resolving that drop in coverage                                                               
because  of the  benefit in  continuing the  relationship between                                                               
the doctor and patient.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR  advised that  DOC was interested  in working                                                               
with her office and DHSS on that matter.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL  commented on the  potential for a zero  sum gain                                                               
if more  people qualified  for Medicare  but no  longer qualified                                                               
under the hold harmless provision for welfare.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked for an explanation.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL elaborated:                                                                                                     
     We  have  a hold  harmless  provision  that says  under                                                                    
     certain   requirements  you   get   welfare.  You   get                                                                    
     incarcerated,   instead  of   having   you  lose   your                                                                    
     eligibility the state will hold  you harmless by paying                                                                    
     cash in that  particular event. That way  they can stay                                                                    
     enrolled;  they don't  have to  reenroll when  they get                                                                    
     out. The  state picks that  up to  a tune of  about $43                                                                    
     million a year, I think.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI asked  if the  state is  paying welfare  to                                                               
people who are in prison.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL replied  "the  eligibility and  many times  it's                                                               
because of the families." He suggested it's a question for DHSS.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:56:08 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  COGHILL asked  if there  is a  determining protocol  for                                                               
health care screenings to keep people from gaming the system.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. BROOKS explained that inmates  are triaged and then evaluated                                                               
along the way to  head that off, but DOC will err  on the side of                                                               
seeing the inmate. She noted that  the most common request is for                                                               
pain  medication   and  while  someone  may   have  received  the                                                               
medication when they were in  the community, they may not receive                                                               
it  when  they're  in  custody.  The  medical  staff  uses  their                                                               
professional judgement  and has  the advantage  of being  able to                                                               
observe the inmate on a 24/7 basis.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COSTELLO asked if it would  be correct to assume that the                                                               
majority  of  inmate deaths  are  a  result  of an  emergency  or                                                               
suicide.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. BROOKS relayed that since 2000 about 17 percent of the in-                                                                  
custody deaths were suicides. The  majority were illness related,                                                               
but there isn't a particular trend in any one area.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COSTELLO asked  if there is a process in  the event of an                                                               
emergency to ensure that a call for help doesn't go unanswered.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BROOKS  said   the  officers  are  trained   to  respond  to                                                               
emergencies  and medical  is called  immediately. If  there isn't                                                               
nursing  staff  on  site  the   officers  will  render  emergency                                                               
response and call 911.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COSTELLO   asked  if  the   legislature  could   sign  a                                                               
confidentiality agreement  in order to  look at a  description of                                                               
the  deaths,  because  it  seems  there  is  a  compelling  state                                                               
interest in light of the fact  that 12 inmates died in custody in                                                               
2014.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BROOKS  suggested consulting  the  Department  of Law  (DOL)                                                               
because she didn't know.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR  agreed it  was a  conversation to  have with                                                               
the Department  of Law  and stressed  that the  information would                                                               
not be available to the public.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:05:49 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MCGUIRE  said Senator Costello  makes a good  point because                                                               
the legislature  wants to know  what it  can do better  to reduce                                                               
the incidence of death. She asked if  he had more to share on the                                                               
five   inmate  deaths   that  have   occurred  since   he  became                                                               
commissioner.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR said the investigations  are ongoing for each                                                               
of  those cases,  but they're  not seeing  any trends.  Some were                                                               
surprising  because they  were the  first death  in a  particular                                                               
institution since DOC started keeping these statistics.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE  expressed interest  in receiving  more information                                                               
and  continuing the  dialog to  help  identify particular  issues                                                               
such as resource allocation.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR  agreed to continue  to dialog and  share the                                                               
information to the extent possible.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE  said this committee  is looking at all  aspects of                                                               
the corrections  system because it's  disconcerting to  know that                                                               
somebody could be  incarcerated on a DUI or  pretrial hearing and                                                               
not survive.  The legislature wants  to support and  partner with                                                               
DOC to reduce these deaths.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR  reiterated that  this is an  opportunity for                                                               
DOC to talk about what it goes  through when a death occurs in an                                                               
institution  and  cautioned  he  would  not  ask  for  additional                                                               
resources  before  he's  gotten  a  full  and  complete  staffing                                                               
analysis.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked  if there is an appeal  process for an                                                               
inmate who requests and is denied treatment.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BROOKS  said there  is a grievance  process that  is answered                                                               
within the facility.  If the inmate still  isn't satisfied he/she                                                               
can file  a grievance  appeal that goes  to the  medical advisory                                                               
committee.  Inmates also  have access  to the  Ombudsman's Office                                                               
and the Disability Law Center.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:15:31 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR COSTELLO asked if other  states apply a different process                                                               
for death investigations.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BROOKS   said  different  jurisdictions  use   the  attorney                                                               
general's  office,  the  state  attorney's  office,  an  internal                                                               
affairs unit,  or the sheriff's  office. But it appears  that the                                                               
investigations that  are done by  another agency are  those where                                                               
foul play is suspected. She  reminded the committee that not only                                                               
does DOC  conduct an internal  investigation when a  death occurs                                                               
in a  facility, but  also the Medical  Examiner's Office  and the                                                               
Alaska State Troopers.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COSTELLO asked  if an  agency other  than DOC  signs off                                                               
when the investigation is completed.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. BROOKS explained that DOC  adds those reports to the internal                                                               
investigation and  presents it to  the Attorney  General's Office                                                               
and the division directors within the system.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:17:54 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MCGUIRE said she'd like  a legislative research report that                                                               
looks at the structure of  investigations in other jurisdictions,                                                               
because it  may be a fundamental  structural flaw for a  state to                                                               
investigate its own department of corrections.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR clarified  that DOC's internal investigations                                                               
are limited to looking at  whether or not policies and procedures                                                               
were followed.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:21:25 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. BROOKS  reviewed the 2000-YTD2015 in-custody  deaths by year,                                                               
and  noted that  there  were  two years  that  higher than  usual                                                               
number of deaths. In 2002  a motor vehicle accident accounted for                                                               
4 of the 16  deaths. Deaths also spiked to 15  in 2008; over half                                                               
were due to liver disease, which speaks to lifestyle.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE asked how DOC handles detoxification.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BROOKS explained  that  DOC's policy  is  to send  extremely                                                               
intoxicated individuals to the hospital.  They aren't returned to                                                               
prison or  jail for booking  until medical personnel  clears them                                                               
for  treatment in  an out-patient  setting. The  prison then  has                                                               
procedures to make sure the inmate doesn't deteriorate.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
She reviewed the 2000-YTD2015 in-custody  deaths by facility, and                                                               
noted the  70 death spike  at the Anchorage  Correctional Complex                                                               
(ACC). In  part that's because ACC  is the medical hub;  it has a                                                               
concentrated population  of high  risk medical  cases, palliative                                                               
care, and hospice  services. The higher numbers of  deaths at the                                                               
out  of  state  facilities  and Spring  Creek  reflect  long-term                                                               
sentenced facilities and an aging population.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCGUIRE  asked  for  a  more  detailed  breakdown  on  the                                                               
Anchorage Correctional Complex, because  that has been the source                                                               
of many of the complaints.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. BROOKS agreed to provide the information.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COSTELLO asked  for a breakdown on the age  of the people                                                               
who died while in custody.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:26:40 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  BROOKS reviewed  pie charts  of the  2000-YTD2015 in-custody                                                               
deaths by  cause. They show  that 76  percent of the  deaths were                                                               
natural causes, 17  percent by suicide, 4 percent  by trauma, and                                                               
3 percent  by homicide. She  noted that these numbers  are fairly                                                               
consistent with  national numbers.  The natural  causes breakdown                                                               
shows 9  percent substance abuse,  17 percent cancer,  22 percent                                                               
cardiovascular/pulmonary  disease,  13  percent end  stage  liver                                                               
disease,   2  percent   end  stage   renal  disease,   3  percent                                                               
gastrointestinal bleeding,  4 percent  infectious disease,  and 6                                                               
percent unknown. She  noted that liver disease is  high in Alaska                                                               
overall and  higher yet in  the prison population. In  Alaska the                                                               
statistics show 11  deaths per 100,000 from liver  disease and in                                                               
DOC it's 15 deaths per 100,000.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. BROOKS directed  attention to a graph of the  U.S. and Alaska                                                               
offender mortality  rates per 100,000 offenders.  Nationally, the                                                               
mortality rate  is 243 per 100,000,  whereas in Alaska it  is 118                                                               
deaths per 100,000 inmates.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI asked  what the  overall mortality  rate is                                                               
for Alaska and the U.S.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BROOKS said  the overall  mortality  rate in  Alaska is  543                                                               
deaths per 100,000 people.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI observed that people  are less likely to die                                                               
in prison.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. BROOKS agreed.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. BROOKS displayed a quote from a parent of an inmate.                                                                        
     When incarceration is the best a parent can hope for,                                                                      
     something is very wrong.                                                                                                   
She  said she  completely agrees  that jail  should never  be the                                                               
first  place  where  someone receives  mental  health  treatment,                                                               
prenatal care, or substance abuse  treatment, but the majority of                                                               
inmates haven't  had consistent medical and  they're generally in                                                               
poor  health.   Relative  to  the  general   population,  inmates                                                               
represent  an  exceptionally  ill  and  complex  population.  For                                                               
example, Alaska  has an overall  rate of hepatitis of  1 percent;                                                               
in DOC  the rate  is 30 percent.  DOC provides  considerably more                                                               
care than these  offenders received on the outside,  but it's not                                                               
possible to reverse the years of compounded hard living.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked what  percentage of offenders commit a                                                               
crime to have a place to sleep or get medical treatment.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. BROOKS said she doesn't have any data but it does happen.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI said  he didn't  mean to  turn this  into a                                                               
discussion  on  Medicaid expansion,  but  it  would be  extremely                                                               
helpful to  know that  if 5  percent more  of the  population had                                                               
access  to medical  care than  the inmate  population would  drop                                                               
five percent,  because they wouldn't need  to go back to  jail to                                                               
get medical treatment.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:33:11 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR clarified  that people come in for  a host of                                                               
reasons in addition to medical  issues. Some people simply need a                                                               
place to  stay or food, which  is one reason there  are spikes in                                                               
the winter. Although  it's cause for concern,  it's cyclical; the                                                               
population drops  again in April  and May when seasonal  work and                                                               
subsistence activities start.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI expressed interest  in seeing overall inmate                                                               
populations charted  on a bell  curve to stimulate  discussion on                                                               
this critical issue.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCGUIRE   agreed  and  requested  information   about  the                                                               
incidence of traumatic brain injury in the inmate population.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR acknowledged the request.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:35:41 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. BROOKS displayed a pie  chart showing 2000-YTD2015 in-custody                                                               
deaths by  age. She noted that  inmates age 56 and  older account                                                               
for 27 percent of the deaths  but represent just 9 percent of the                                                               
population. This  is a  reflection on  the aging  population, she                                                               
said. About  one-third of  the inmate  deaths were  someone under                                                               
age  40, which  points  to  the fact  that  irrespective of  age,                                                               
inmates are generally  not healthy. She noted  that the breakdown                                                               
of inmate  deaths by  gender mirrors the  inmate population  as a                                                               
whole,  whereas the  breakdown of  inmate  deaths by  race was  a                                                               
little  surprising.  It  shows  53 percent  of  the  deaths  were                                                               
Caucasian  when   the  inmate  population  is   only  46  percent                                                               
Caucasian. African  Americans represent 9 percent  of the deaths,                                                               
which is  consistent with the  overall population of  10 percent,                                                               
but the Alaska Native percentages  are not consistent. The inmate                                                               
population is  37 percent Alaska  Native while 28 percent  of the                                                               
in-custody deaths were Alaska Natives.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BROOKS   reviewed  the   roster  that   makes  up   a  death                                                               
investigation.  She  explained  that   a  team  goes  onsite  and                                                               
interviews  staff  and inmates,  reviews  videos  and files,  and                                                               
collects   all   the   documents    related   to   the   inmate's                                                               
incarceration.  A  timeline and  summaries  of  the security  and                                                               
medical  response  is prepared  and  copies  of the  autopsy  and                                                               
police reports  are collected and  recommendations are  made. The                                                               
findings  are  given  to  the   attorney  general,  the  division                                                               
directors,  and the  commissioner  so that  changes  can be  made                                                               
quickly if need be.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:39:40 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER   TAYLOR  discussed   recent   changes  within   the                                                               
facilities  to  ensure  due  diligence. He  noted  that  the  DOC                                                               
performance review specifically focused  on the deaths looking at                                                               
whether or  not the policies  and procedures were  applicable. He                                                               
reiterated that  the department takes  the concerns  raised about                                                               
inmate deaths very seriously.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE  asked her to  discuss the policy change  for death                                                               
of a prisoner.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. BROOKS  explained that  the biggest change  was made  in 2012                                                               
when the process  was formalized. DOC now sends a  team onsite to                                                               
do a full  review and a final  report is written and  sent to the                                                               
attorney general.  DOC also  added specific  things such  as what                                                               
the  superintendent collects,  what  the  medical director  looks                                                               
for, who  the information is  shared with,  and how the  scene is                                                               
blocked off.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:44:57 PM                                                                                                                    
CHET  WILLIAMS,  representing  himself,  said  he  is  the  shift                                                               
commander at the  Anchorage Correctional Complex and  has been in                                                               
the department for  22 years. He recounted a  story to illustrate                                                               
how  quickly someone  can attempt  suicide. An  inebriated female                                                               
was  remanded  to  custody  and  placed alone  in  a  cell.  When                                                               
officers  weren't  looking, she  wrapped  the  hem of  her  shirt                                                               
around her neck and tied a knot.  Her face was purple by the time                                                               
that officers reached  her. Fortunately, the ligature  was cut in                                                               
time.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
He explained  that the  Anchorage Jail was  designed as  a direct                                                               
supervision concept jail,  which places 1 officer in  a module to                                                               
supervise 64 prisoners. He received  training to run this type of                                                               
jail  and  he  in  turn  trained  others.  Initially  the  direct                                                               
supervision training was 32 hours.  It subsequently dropped to 16                                                               
hours and the last training was  2 hours. He opined that training                                                               
and  education  is  key  for officers  and  prisoners  to  reduce                                                               
suicide,  PREA incidents,  and recidivism  in general.  Prisoners                                                               
should  be  offered  incentives  to  attend  AA  meetings,  anger                                                               
management   classes,   and    other   programs   while   they're                                                               
incarcerated, he  said. Responding to a  question about training,                                                               
he  clarified that  there  is no  longer  any direct  supervision                                                               
training.  Training now  consists  of  basic suicide  prevention,                                                               
CPR, and "read and sign" training.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE asked if he  believes that fewer incidents occurred                                                               
when there was more training.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WILLIAMS said  it seems  there is  more assaultive  behavior                                                               
today, but suicides have remained about the same.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:00:02 PM                                                                                                                    
JOHN R.  SCOTT, representing himself,  said he retired  18 months                                                               
ago after working  almost 21 years at  the Anchorage Correctional                                                               
Complex. His greatest  concern was lack of training.  When he was                                                               
working  ACC  was about  3  years  behind on  suicide  prevention                                                               
training because  of staffing shortages.  Training for  first aid                                                               
and CPR was  3-4 years behind. He said he  believes that staffing                                                               
levels have a large bearing on suicide rates.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCGUIRE  asked  how  he  would  describe  the  changes  in                                                               
training over the course of his career.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. SCOTT  said that when  he retired last October,  training had                                                               
plunged  to  virtually  nothing   because  there  weren't  enough                                                               
officers to  cover the  night shift and  conduct training  at the                                                               
same time.  There was no  direct supervision  training whatsoever                                                               
for the last five years that he worked.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE asked if he  saw any correlation between the number                                                               
of hours of  training officers receive and  the conditions within                                                               
the jail.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SCOTT  said  conditions  were   better  when  more  training                                                               
occurred. He related that one  night shift officer doing security                                                               
checks on  almost 400  inmates isn't  adequate, and  is stressful                                                               
for  both  officers and  inmates.  He  shared  that the  lack  of                                                               
training was a primary reason he retired.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:07:38 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MCGUIRE thanked the presenters for their service.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COSTELLO   thanked  Senator  McGuire  for   holding  the                                                               
hearing.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:08:53 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair McGuire  adjourned the Senate Judiciary  Standing Committee                                                               
meeting at 3:08 p.m.                                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
13 SB 41 Letter - Paul Craig 4 10 2015.pdf SJUD 3/11/2015 1:30:00 PM