Legislature(2009 - 2010)BUTROVICH 205
03/10/2010 01:30 PM Senate JUDICIARY
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ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE
SENATE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE
March 10, 2010
1:31 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Senator Hollis French, Chair
Senator Bill Wielechowski, Vice Chair
Senator Dennis Egan
Senator Lesil McGuire
Senator John Coghill
MEMBERS ABSENT
All members present
COMMITTEE CALENDAR
CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)
Attorney General: Daniel B. Sullivan
CONFIRMATION ADVANCED
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION
No previous action to record.
WITNESS REGISTER
Daniel B. Sullivan, Appointee
Attorney General of the State of Alaska
Anchorage, AK
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified as appointee to the position of
Attorney General
ACTION NARRATIVE
1:31:57 PM
CHAIR HOLLIS FRENCH called the Senate Judiciary Standing
Committee meeting to order at 1:31 p.m. Senators Egan, Coghill,
Wielechowski and French were present at the call to order.
Senator McGuire arrived soon thereafter.
^CONFIRMATION HEARING: Attorney General
CHAIR FRENCH announced the only order of business would be the
consideration of the appointment of Daniel B. Sullivan to the
position of Attorney General of the State of Alaska. He
commented that several years ago he was impressed when he heard
Mr. Sullivan speak on matters of international trade at the
University of Alaska and so it was a pleasure to see him
reemerge as the attorney general years later.
1:32:42 PM
SENATOR MCGUIRE joined the committee.
DANIEL S. SULLIVAN, Appointee, Attorney General, said he would
focus on three areas: his background and experience; his areas
of emphasis at the Department of Law since he was appointed last
June; and his management philosophy and goals.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN provided a brief personal history and
recounted his professional experience including time as a law
clerk; a staff attorney on the Alaska Court of Appeals; private
practice with Perkins Coie in Anchorage focusing on corporate
law; a White House fellowship where he served as director on the
National Security Council staff; and U.S. Assistant Secretary of
State in charge of global energy and economic issues. His full
resume was provided in members' packets and may be found in the
committee file. He committed to continue to use his experience
to advance Alaska's interests.
1:41:28 PM
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN said he has focused on four areas
since becoming attorney general in June. The first relates to
protecting Alaskans. This ranges from the focused strategy to
reduce the epidemic of sexual assault and domestic violence to
consumer protection. The second area is promoting economic
opportunity including intervening in lawsuits that affect the
potential economic interests of the state. The third area is
protecting the state's fiscal integrity, both offensively and
defensively. He highlighted that the DOL civil division
collected about $560 million, a return of $10 for every $1 spent
on the department. The fourth priority is promoting good
governance and that's done by defending the laws and
constitution, working with the Legislature on regulations and
legislation, and working to ensure that the government operates
within the parameters of the law and state and federal
constitutions.
1:44:50 PM
Another priority is to address the challenges of life in rural
Alaska. As chair of the governor's rural sub-cabinet and co-
chair of the federal Rural Justice Commission with the U.S.
attorney, he said he's traveled to rural Alaska, met with
leadership, and held public hearings to better understand some
of the problems and how to address them both from a public
safety/law enforcement standpoint and an economic standpoint.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN said his management philosophy and
objectives focus on four areas: 1) integrity as the touchstone
of all DOL decisions and a high level of professional standards;
2) respect and collaboration with colleagues; 3) increasing
moral and recruiting top notch attorneys; and 4) working closely
with the Legislature and being responsive to requests. When he
was appointed he sent a letter to each legislator saying that
this is an important part of the job. At this point he's met
privately with all but two legislators and he plans to continue
to focus on this.
He said he believes he has a clear understanding of his role in
state government, but his highest responsibility and duty are to
the laws and Constitution of the State of Alaska.
1:48:01 PM
CHAIR FRENCH thanked him for reaching out and keeping
legislators abreast of the important advances that take place in
DOL. He then asked which Supreme Court Justice and which U.S.
President he admires most and why.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN said he will mention two Supreme Court
justices. The first is Chief Justice John Marshall. He was a
visionary jurist without peer who served as Chief Justice from
1801 to 1835. He brought clarity and understanding to the
constitutional structure and in many ways was critical to the
successful founding of the country. On the personal side, he
served in the Continental Army, the U.S. House, and as Secretary
of State for two years. Certainly, he said, he was a man who
served his country well.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN said he also admires Oliver Wendell
Holmes. He enlisted in the Massachusetts Militia when he was a
senior at Harvard and fought in a number of Civil War battles.
After that he became a noted jurist and served on the
Massachusetts Supreme Court. At age 70 he was appointed to the
U.S. Supreme Court by Teddy Roosevelt and served until age 90.
His judicial philosophy was focused on separation of powers and
a respectful role of the Legislature. He was an enthusiastic
First Amendment proponent even during World War I when there was
great interest in suppressing dissent.
1:51:51 PM
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN said President Reagan is his favorite
president. He embodied true principled leadership believing in
the country from both economic and foreign policy standpoints
when a lot of Americans lacked that belief. He had a lot to do
with moving the country from a doubting perspective to
confidence.
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI noted that he wasn't living in Alaska when
he was appointed as attorney general and asked how he initially
approached the governor or if she approached him.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN explained that when he left Alaska in
2002 he intended to return after one year, but those plans were
put on hold because of job extensions and being recalled to
active duty by the Marine Corps. When his active duty was
complete he was offered and accepted the job of Assistant
Secretary of State. In the fall of 2008 he began interviewing
for positions in Alaska and when the position of attorney
general became open he indicated his interest. A friend
contacted the governor. He interviewed with her staff and then
with then Governor Palin directly. He described it as a
fortunate confluence of interests and events.
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked when he became a member of the Alaska
Bar.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN replied he clerked in 1997 and 1998
and became a member of the bar in 2000.
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked if he had practiced law in Alaska.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN replied he clerked for 2.5 years and
worked at Perkins Coie in Anchorage for 2 years.
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked who his major clients were at Perkins
Coie.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN answered his work was mostly
commercial transactions, but it included a cross section of
small to large Alaska business interests.
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked if he worked in a particular division
at Perkins Coie.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN replied most of his work focused on
corporate transactions with some work on commercial litigation
issues.
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked if he represented any oil companies
that do business in Alaska.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN replied he did some work with regard
to BP, but principally he focused on smaller business,
investors, and Native corporations.
1:58:24 PM
SENATOR MCGUIRE said she feels a sense of hope with his
appointment. He responded immediately when she shared her number
one concern, which is that the epidemic of domestic violence and
assault on women and children is eclipsing the economics and all
other things in the state. She then articulated concern in two
areas related to children's services - a lack of resources and
infringement of parental rights. She cited a case in Bethel and
asked what DOL might be able to do to partner with the Alaska
Supreme Court and the Legislature to look at putting additional
resources into the Office of Child's Services. She also cited a
case from the other end of the spectrum where parental rights
were all but ignored and asked what he thinks about potential
liability.
2:05:12 PM
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN thanked Senator McGuire for her
leadership in the area of children's services and noted that OCS
issues oftentimes involve domestic violence and sex assault
problems. He credited her with being first to suggest that the
state pattern its response to these issues on the Mothers
Against Drunk Driving (MADD) model and said that on this issue
DOL is very closely aligned with the Legislature. He assured her
that DOL has a large section that works with OCS and that he has
spent a lot of time with the excellent attorneys there.
He acknowledged that DOL has heard clearly that there are
resource issues with regard to OCS and that it has also heard of
cases on the other extreme where people believe that OCS has
acted inappropriately with regard to parental rights. That being
said, his perspective is that DOL has a very strong team that
does great work in difficult circumstances. DOL works with the
Department of Health and Social Services (DHSS) with regard to
training and how to have the OCS workers make sure that they're
complying with the law. He highlighted that of the 19 cases of
OCS interventions that went to the Alaska Supreme Court last
year, the court affirmed in all 19 cases that the agency took
the proper, within-the-law action. DOL will work with this
committee and others on improvements with regard to OCS, but
this is something that DOL is focused on already, he said.
2:09:54 PM
SENATOR MCGUIRE said she appreciates that the work is difficult;
she's just inviting more participants into the dialog and is
encouraging outreach to Morgan Christen and the Alaska Supreme
Court task force that's been assembled. It's a very broad issue.
CHAIR FRENCH questioned why the state is, at great expense,
pursuing the Kaltag case, seeking to overturn the decision about
placement of a tribal child by a tribal court. Everyone seems to
agree with the decision whereas the state appears to be taking a
position that is contrary to John v. Baker. In that case the
state argued in support of the jurisdiction of Alaska state
courts concurrent with Alaska tribal courts to hear child
custody disputes involving tribal children. He said his view is
that the tribes are helping the state by performing an essential
service that the state is unwilling to provide because it isn't
going to put OCS agents in every village in the state to oversee
these issues.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN said a touchstone of the Parnell
Administration is respect and partnership with Native
organizations and tribes. He agrees completely that the state
should be partnering and cooperating on a number of issues and
from the perspective of DOL that is happening. It has been and
will continue to be a big focus. However, the state is pursuing
the Kaltag case because it believes that it is an instance of a
tribal court exerting membership over one parent who is a non-
member. In a state that has 229 federally recognized tribes,
it's a fundamental and critical issue on which the state needs
clarity.
2:18:31 PM
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI pointed out that three courts and five
judges looked at and rejected his position. He asked what the
state is paying outside counsel to draft the brief in the Kaltag
case.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN said the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of
Appeals relied on a case from 1991 and DOL believes that
decision is unclear because the law has developed significantly
since then. He said he didn't know what the state is paying the
outside counsel, but he would provide the information.
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI said he understands that the legal charges
range from $700 to $1,200 per hour. He asked who made the
decision to go forward on the case.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN reiterated that DOL has respectfully
sought clarity on this important issue because it's not clear.
With regard to who made the decision, he said he raised the
question with the governor. He agrees with Senator French that
the tribal court was trying to do the right thing and that's why
he believes that working on a broader approach between the state
and tribal courts is the way to resolve the issue, not through
continued litigation.
2:24:57 PM
CHAIR FRENCH said you may have trouble with the memorandum of
understanding (MOU) and may not be aware of the degree to which
this has ruffled feathers in the Native legal community. They
see it as an attack on John v. Baker and the right of tribal
courts to exercise concurrent jurisdiction in the state. This
case has not only provoked intense resistance it also appears to
have bad facts to take to the U.S. Supreme Court.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN reiterated that he is very focused on
engaging and working with the Alaska Native and tribal
communities and his record reflects that it's more than just
talk. He has great respect for these communities, but he
continues to believe that there is no clarity in the law on the
extent to which a tribal court can have jurisdiction and take
action on the right to be a parent to a child. Given the number
of tribes in this state and the frequency with which family
relations cross tribal boundaries, the state made the careful
and considered decision to ask for a U.S. Supreme Court review.
2:28:23 PM
SENATOR MCGUIRE said she understands that it's more than the
issue of Native and non-Native parents, it's the ability to
assert authority and jurisdiction over a child's placement when
the parents are from different tribes. She agrees with Senator
French that this has ruffled feathers in the Native community at
a time when there are so many looming issues related to tribal
lands, Indian country, and sovereignty.
2:30:43 PM
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI cited the facts in the Kaltag case and
expressed astonishment that the state had taken the action it
did. Financially this is a bad policy decision and a slap in the
face to the Native community, he said.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN reiterated his respect for the entire
Alaska Native community and said he respectfully disagrees with
his assessment. Coordinating and cooperating to enable all
parties to work together to the benefit and welfare of Alaska's
children is something he's personally worked on through the MOU
and some progress has been made. "Nothing I'm trying to do with
this department should be viewed as a slap in the face of Alaska
Natives," he concluded.
2:33:43 PM
CHAIR FRENCH said to illustrate the complexity of your job,
we'll move from the difficult issue of tribal sovereignty to the
issue of Price Waterhouse Coopers losing current and former
state employees' personal information. He asked for an overview
of what happened, his involvement in the case, the settlement,
and when the state learned about the data loss.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN explained that this was broad
information that the state provided to Mercer, the state's
actuary that was doing modeling of retirement benefits.
Subsequently, the state became dissatisfied with the work and
cut off the relationship and sued. In the course of discovery
the actuarial model was given to Price Waterhouse Coopers for
analysis. In early December that premier accounting firm
realized that it had misplaced this data.
While the Department of Administration analyzed exactly what
information was lost, the Department of Law focused on its legal
options, which were to sue or agree on a settlement. The
overriding concern was to protect and notify the affected
Alaskans. The state wasn't sure that suing would provide any
protection to the Alaskans involved and instead negotiated a
settlement and announced on January 27 that "There's a problem,
but you're covered." The current focus is to implement the terms
of the settlement. To date 16,500 Alaskans have signed up for
the protection.
2:42:27 PM
SENATOR COGHILL asked if he means that the Alaskans have signed
up is for personal credit protection.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN answered yes and added that he would
encourage anyone who received a letter to take advantage of the
protection. The sign-up provides the option of a minimum of 2
years of personal credit protection or a freeze. Under the terms
of the agreement, there might be a third year or an extension
beyond that time. Price Waterhouse Coopers will also indemnify
any Alaska citizen who says their identity has been stolen and
they've been damaged. The state has gone to great lengths to get
citizens protection and indemnification at no cost. He opined
that this path was preferable to litigation with regard to
immediately protecting citizens. Also, there's a presumption in
the agreement that anything that happens to a citizen who signs
up was caused by the loss. It will be very easy to collect from
Price Waterhouse Coopers in the event that something happens to
someone who has signed up, he said.
2:44:49 PM
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked how many people are affected.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN said 77,000 were affected and 16,500
have signed up as of today.
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked how long the protection lasts.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN replied it's a minimum of two years,
but there are two extension provisions that are somewhat vague
so a "bad guy" won't simply wait out the term and then use the
personal information.
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked if the affected Alaskans have to pay
for the additional years of protection and questioned what would
happen five years from now if their identities were misused.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN replied they'll be protected as long
as they're covered, but there's no time limit on the indemnity.
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked if a person whose identity is used 10
to 15 years from now would be made whole; that's what he
believes should happen.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN said he believes that's what the
indemnity agreement does, but he'll check and get back to him.
He added that he's looked at other AG agreements and doesn't
believe that any are this comprehensive.
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI questioned why everyone wasn't
automatically signed up.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN said that was considered, but DOL
didn't believe it had the legal authority to unilaterally give
personal information to Equifax.
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked what specific data was stolen.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN clarified that the data may have been
misplaced and not stolen, but the relevant data included names,
dates of birth, and social security numbers.
2:50:05 PM
SENATOR MCGUIRE asked what his office is doing with respect to
the Endangered Species Act (ESA) and if he has a team that deals
with sovereignty and development of Alaska land as it pertains
to the federal government. She understands there is a renewed
effort to look at the Outer Continental Shelf (OCS), the
National Petroleum Reserve-Alaska (NPRA) and the Antiquities
Act.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN replied they've been focused on a
broader strategy with respect to the ESA issue to address the
potential future problem for the state. He explained that the
climate-based listings are based on models of climate change in
the future, but they don't account for where the species are
now. He cited the polar bear as an example of a currently
healthy population that is modeled to decline. DOL sees this in
combination with the huge critical habitat determinations as a
troubling trend, particularly since the state has no input. DOL
has responded by fighting the listings. When the federal
government has rejected these theories, like in the case of the
ribbon seal, the state is intervening on behalf of the federal
government. He noted that in that case the state sought to
intervene and the environmental group that brought the lawsuit
is opposing the state's intervention in a case that involves
only Alaska animals. This is a huge outrage, he said.
2:53:55 PM
CHAIR FRENCH asked, in general, how often a challenge to a
listing prevails.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN replied it's very fluid with these
climate-based listings and that's why the state believes that
getting involved and getting courts to reject it is very
important. The state has also looked at potential ways to limit
the critical habitat determination, but it's difficult when the
federal government doesn't even confer with the state when it
makes a decision. He cited the 200,000 square mile polar bear
determination and the Cook Inlet beluga whale determination.
The state is also seeking allies in the other 49 states. To that
end, he sent letters to the other attorneys general outlining
what has happened in this state and warning that it could happen
anywhere. The letter struck a chord and he has since suggested
that the National Association of Attorneys General (NAAG)
establish a task force/working group on ESA issues. Recently a
group of AGs met with the Secretary of Interior to discuss
concerns with the federal approach to critical habitat and to
respectfully point out that their legal comments should be taken
seriously. The critical habitat determination is supposed to
balance risk to the species, economic opportunity, and national
security and the states are best able to weigh in on those
factors.
2:57:57 PM
Responding to the Senator McGuire's question, he said DOL
doesn't have a sovereignty lands team but it has an
environmental group and an ESA attorney and has been actively
involved in federal water rights issues, OCS issues, ESA issues,
and Tongass timber harvest issues. These all go to the matter of
state and federal jurisdictional and sovereignty issues.
SENATOR MCGUIRE asked for assurance that in the event that there
are legal challenges to AGIA that DOL has been researching the
provisions in the law and is prepared to respond and vigorously
defend the state.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN replied DOL has thoroughly examined
the treble damages provision in AGIA and, depending on the
circumstances, would be prepared to respond. He added that DOL
is also looking at several tax-related provisions under AGIA
that several legislators have asked about.
SENATOR COGHILL said both the Indian Children Welfare Act (ICWA)
and the Child In Need of Aid (CINA) laws landed on Alaska
simultaneously in the late '90s and have undergone change as
they were being implemented. It's a question as to whether it's
been done well, but the question is how to protect the citizens
of Alaska through the state law and work with the Native groups
who also had a template sent down to them that was more
geographically tribal oriented and didn't really fit Alaska's
unique circumstances. He said he was pleased to hear the
commitment to work those things out because it's necessary. The
next generation deserves clarity of the law.
He noted that the CINA law is a civil-based law, but it almost
always deals with a criminal element. He said they cross so
often that it gets confusing to judges. He asked if there is an
awareness of that dynamic within DOL and if there is anything
that the Legislature can do to help brighten the line. I don't
need the answer today, but we need to look for that answer, he
said.
3:03:20 PM
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN replied these are very challenging
issues that involve children, which is why DOL is giving it a
lot of attention.
SENATOR COGHILL observed that as more work is done on domestic
violence and sexual assault it's recognized that the issues go
hand-in-hand. He said he wanted to mention another concern,
which is that as crimes have been ratcheted up in the last
several years, they've been bargained down in application. He
questioned whether the changes in law have really caught more
bad guys or just given prosecutors and defenders more
discretion.
CHAIR FRENCH noted that he too asked that question in the memo
he sent to the attorney general to help him prepare for this
hearing. He asked Attorney General Sullivan to answer questions
8, 9, and 10 in writing and send them to his office and he'd
distribute the answers to the committee members.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN agreed to do so.
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked Chair French if he could submit
additional questions to the attorney general through his office.
CHAIR FRENCH agreed to forward the questions to the attorney
general.
3:06:09 PM
SENATOR MCGUIRE moved and asked unanimous consent to forward the
name Daniel Sullivan for the position of Attorney General of the
State of Alaska to the full body for consideration, recognizing
that members are free to indicate their individual
recommendations.
CHAIR FRENCH asked if there was objection to the motion.
SENATOR WILECHOWSKI questioned whether it was appropriate to
forward the name when his questions hadn't been answered.
3:06:45 PM
CHAIR FRENCH called an at ease.
3:07:52 PM
CHAIR FRENCH reconvened the hearing and stated that the motion
would be held in abeyance so that Senator Wielechowski could ask
additional questions.
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked the attorney general if he decides
which cases go forward or if he takes those orders from the
governor.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN replied it depends on the specific
case. He has moved forward on certain cases that relate to his
responsibilities pursuant to statute as attorney general without
consultation or discussion with the governor. When cases have
particular significance to the state he mentions them to the
governor, but those aren't that common. For example, when he
came on board he suggested the state become a party to the OCS
litigation because it directly affects the future of Alaskans.
If there's some sort of settlement, it would be advantageous for
the state to be at the table.
3:11:38 PM
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked if he feels obliged to institute any
legal action that the governor requests.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVANI replied he is by statute the
governor's legal advisor and so far there's been no conflict
between his advice and the governor's policy direction.
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked if he believes he has the right to
say no if he disagrees with a request from the governor and if
he has the authority to move ahead against the governor's
wishes.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN said his guiding principle is to do
nothing that would contravene the law or the constitution of the
state.
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked if he's willing to commit to review
the oil and gas leases to ensure that the companies are drilling
and exploring to the maximum capacity.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN replied he has been focused on that.
He believes that DOL has played a proactive role and he's been
encouraged to continue that on the Point Thomson development.
When DOL didn't agree with a superior court ruling in the
litigation they asked for an interlocutory appeal to the Alaska
Supreme Court so they've been very forward leaning on the legal
issues.
3:16:34 PM
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI said he understands that DOL has or is
close to issuing an opinion on whether or not the state has to
decouple, if it's deemed necessary, by May 1.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN replied DOL is working on that and
members should have a copy of the letter he sent to Senator
Paskvan about the appropriate way to proceed. He suggested that
it might be better to brief the interested legislators in a
closed session because it involves potential litigation
strategy.
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI said he really wants to know more before he
has to vote on a bill.
3:17:54 PM
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN assured him that "all systems are
churning." He added that although there is a sense of urgency,
his first priority is to do very comprehensive research and gain
a thorough understanding of this very complicated issue.
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI asked if he has any concerns about
redistricting and if he's analyzed the way it may impact rural
Alaska.
ATTORNEY GENERAL SULLIVAN replied the department has been boning
up on expertise in anticipation of potential legal and
constitutional issues. He doesn't know specifically what those
will be, just that they're likely.
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI thanked the committee for its indulgence.
CHAIR FRENCH asked Senator McGuire to renew her motion.
SENATOR MCGUIRE moved to forward the name Daniel Sullivan for
the position of Attorney General of the State of Alaska to the
full body for consideration, recognizing that members are free
to indicate their individual recommendations. There being no
objection, it was so ordered.
3:20:47 PM
There being no further business to come before the committee,
Chair French adjourned the meeting at 3:20 p.m.
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