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03/06/2023 01:30 PM Senate JUDICIARY

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*+ SB 66 CRIME OF SEX/HUMAN TRAFFICKING TELECONFERENCED
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         March 6, 2023                                                                                          
                           1:31 p.m.                                                                                            
                             DRAFT                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Matt Claman, Chair                                                                                                      
Senator Jesse Kiehl, Vice Chair                                                                                                 
Senator James Kaufman                                                                                                           
Senator Cathy Giessel                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Löki Tobin                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 80                                                                                                              
"An Act  making corrective amendments  to the Alaska  Statutes as                                                               
recommended  by the  revisor of  statutes; and  providing for  an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED SB 80 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 66                                                                                                              
"An Act  relating to sex  trafficking; establishing the  crime of                                                               
patron of a  victim of sex trafficking; relating to  the crime of                                                               
human   trafficking;  relating   to  prostitution;   relating  to                                                               
sentencing  for  sex  trafficking,  patron of  a  victim  of  sex                                                               
trafficking, and human trafficking;  establishing the process for                                                               
vacating judgments  for certain  convictions of  prostitution and                                                               
misconduct  involving a  controlled  substance;  relating to  the                                                               
Council  on Domestic  Violence and  Sexual  Assault; relating  to                                                               
permanent   fund   dividends   for  certain   individuals   whose                                                               
convictions are vacated; and providing for an effective date."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB  80                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: 2023 REVISOR'S BILL                                                                                                
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
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03/01/23       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
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BILL: SB  66                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: CRIME OF SEX/HUMAN TRAFFICKING                                                                                     
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELVI GRAY-JACKSON, District D                                                                                           
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Sponsor of SB 80.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ANGIE KEMP, Director                                                                                                            
Criminal Division                                                                                                               
Department of Law                                                                                                               
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Introduced SB 66 on behalf of the                                                                         
administration.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
KACI SCHROEDER, Assistant Attorney General                                                                                      
Criminal Division                                                                                                               
Department of Law                                                                                                               
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented the sectional analysis for SB 66                                                                
on behalf of the administration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
AMBER NICKERSON, Representing self                                                                                              
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to SB 66.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
KATIE BOTZ, Representing self                                                                                                   
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 66.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
TERRA BURNS, Representing self                                                                                                  
Community United for Safety and Protections                                                                                     
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to SB 66.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MAXINE DOOGAN, Representing self                                                                                                
Community United for Safety and Protection                                                                                      
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to SB 66.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
BELLA ROBINSON, Executive Director                                                                                              
Coyote Rhode Island                                                                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in opposition to SB 66.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:31:09 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MATT CLAMAN called the  Senate Judiciary Standing Committee                                                             
meeting to order  at 1:31 p.m. Present at the  call to order were                                                               
Senators Kiehl, Kaufman, Giessel, Tobin and Chair Claman.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                    SB  80-2023 REVISOR'S BILL                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:31:52 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR CLAMAN  announced the consideration  of SENATE BILL  NO. 80                                                               
"An Act  making corrective amendments  to the Alaska  Statutes as                                                               
recommended  by the  revisor of  statutes; and  providing for  an                                                               
effective  date."  He stated  that  his  office did  not  receive                                                               
amendments to SB 80. He asked  for final comments from members of                                                               
the committee.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELVI GRAY-JACKSON, District  D, Alaska State Legislature,                                                               
Juneau,  Alaska,  sponsor  for  SB  80,  introduced  herself  and                                                               
offered her appreciation to the committee for hearing the bill.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:32:29 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL moved  to report  SB 80,  work order  33-LS0303/S,                                                               
from  committee  with  individual  recommendations  and  attached                                                               
fiscal note.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CLAMAN  found no  objection and SB  80 was  reported from                                                               
the Senate Judiciary Standing Committee.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
              SB  66-CRIME OF SEX/HUMAN TRAFFICKING                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:32:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR CLAMAN  announced the consideration  of SENATE BILL  NO. 66                                                               
"An Act  relating to sex  trafficking; establishing the  crime of                                                               
patron of a  victim of sex trafficking; relating to  the crime of                                                               
human   trafficking;  relating   to  prostitution;   relating  to                                                               
sentencing  for  sex  trafficking,  patron of  a  victim  of  sex                                                               
trafficking, and human trafficking;  establishing the process for                                                               
vacating judgments  for certain  convictions of  prostitution and                                                               
misconduct  involving a  controlled  substance;  relating to  the                                                               
Council  on Domestic  Violence and  Sexual  Assault; relating  to                                                               
permanent   fund   dividends   for  certain   individuals   whose                                                               
convictions are vacated; and providing for an effective date."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:33:43 PM                                                                                                                    
ANGIE  KEMP,  Director,  Criminal Division,  Department  of  Law,                                                               
Juneau, Alaska, introduced  SB 66. She stated that  human and sex                                                               
trafficking are forms of modern  day slavery. The term slavery is                                                               
used  universally   to  describe   the  crimes.  Human   and  sex                                                               
trafficking involve  manipulation of another human  for financial                                                               
and  personal  gain,  sometimes   induced  by  force,  fraud  and                                                               
coercion.   The  human   and  sex   trafficking  industry   earns                                                               
approximately  $32  billion  annually,   surpassed  only  by  the                                                               
illicit  sale of  controlled substances.  The  industry preys  on                                                               
vulnerable  people including  children.  The average  age when  a                                                               
child  is pulled  into commercial  sex is  between 12  to 14  for                                                               
girls  and 11  to 13  for boys.  The estimated  number of  people                                                               
trafficked worldwide is 27 million.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP  continued that human  and sex trafficking  is insidious                                                               
conduct that often occurs in  private. She shared statistics from                                                               
the United States Department of  Justice (DOJ) stating the number                                                               
of  prosecutions in  the United  States increased  by 84  percent                                                               
from 2011 to 2020. The  number of referrals for human trafficking                                                               
offenses increased in the same time period by 61 percent.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN asked about the  federal statistics from the DOJ. He                                                               
wondered if the data is  available for state versus federal human                                                               
and sex trafficking prosecutions.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KEMP replied  that the  statistics stated  were specific  to                                                               
offenses referred to and or prosecuted by the DOJ.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN asked if the state  data was absent from the federal                                                               
statistics.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP responded in the affirmative.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN  asked the number  of federal prosecutions  of human                                                               
and sex trafficking in Alaska for the study period described.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP  clarified that  the federal  prosecutions did  not pull                                                               
statistics from individual states.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN  asked for the  federal prosecutions in  Alaska from                                                               
2011 to 2020.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KEMP believed  that  the models  she  observed included  the                                                               
details requested. She  said she would respond  to Chair Claman's                                                               
question later in the day.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CLAMAN requested  the number  of  federal sex  trafficking                                                               
prosecutions in Alaska.  He asked for similar  statistics from 10                                                               
states  for  comparison.  He wondered  about  smaller  population                                                               
states, rural states and others for comparisons.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:38:22 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KEMP  continued that  human  and  sex trafficking  does  not                                                               
happen  in a  vacuum.  The statistics  remain  consistent in  the                                                               
reporting.  Risk  factors  for sex  trafficking  victims  include                                                               
substance  use,  runaways,   homeless  youth,  unstable  housing,                                                               
mental   health  concerns   and   migration.   Risks  for   human                                                               
trafficking  include   migration,  economic   hardship,  unstable                                                               
housing, criminal  records and substance  abuse. She  pointed out                                                               
the overlap in risk factors. She  cited the Polaris Project as an                                                               
entity that  conducts research about trafficking  and maintains a                                                               
hotline  where  individuals  can  call to  report  sex  or  human                                                               
trafficking.  Much of  the  data presented  is  derived from  the                                                               
Polaris  Project. She  reported  that 42  percent of  trafficking                                                               
victims are  recruited by a  family member, while 39  percent are                                                               
recruited  by  intimate  partners.  The  legislation  before  the                                                               
committee  attempts to  address events  that lead  a person  into                                                               
human and sex trafficking.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:40:46 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GIESSEL  asked about  the  risk  factor, migration.  She                                                               
wondered if migration referred to immigrants.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP replied  yes, immigration migration is  a universal risk                                                               
factor  for both  categories of  trafficking. She  continued that                                                               
the  industry is  driven by  demand. One  legislative goal  is to                                                               
address  the  demand.  She  added  that  traffickers  assess  the                                                               
landscape when  targeting victims. During the  Covid-19 pandemic,                                                               
the  use of  social  media  as a  means  to identify  trafficking                                                               
victims  increased  by  22  percent.  She  pointed  out  separate                                                               
statistics  from Facebook  and  Instagram with  increases of  125                                                               
percent  and 95  percent  respectively. Trafficking  perpetrators                                                               
are adapting and using creative means to target victims.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP stated that the law  attempts to ensure  no safe passage                                                               
in Alaska" for sex trafficking.  The proposed legislation ensures                                                               
that  the  state  protects the  most  vulnerable  citizens  while                                                               
targeting  the   perpetrators  creating   the  demand.   The  law                                                               
reorganizes  the   crimes  allowing  more  effective   tools  for                                                               
prosecution  and  law enforcement.  She  provided  an example  of                                                               
classification changes  that lead to the  appropriate prosecution                                                               
of the most serious crimes.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   CLAMAN  asked   which  section   of  criminal   code  sex                                                               
trafficking falls in currently.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP replied AS 11.66.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN asked  about the differences between  chapter 41 and                                                               
chapter 66.  He wondered if the  change in chapters added  to the                                                               
seriousness of  the crimes or  if the classification  of felonies                                                               
was the reason for the change.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP  replied that the  chapter change increases  the penalty                                                               
for  sex  trafficking  in  the  first  degree.  The  change  also                                                               
reorganizes  the  statute moving  the  crimes  to AS  11.41.  The                                                               
change provides  additional protection for victims.  She provided                                                               
an  example  of AS  12.45.042,  which  offers protection  when  a                                                               
psychiatric  evaluation is  ordered by  the court.  These changes                                                               
are possible  if the  trafficking is categorized  as an  AS 11.41                                                               
offense. She  added that  AS 12.45.046 allows  for a  guardian ad                                                               
litem  to be  appointed when  a  child is  a victim  of an  11.41                                                               
offense or  is a witness  to an  AS 11.41 offense.  She continued                                                               
that under  AS 12.30.055, there  is no right to  revoke probation                                                               
when the person committed an  AS 11.41 offense. By recategorizing                                                               
the crime  as an AS  11.41 offense,  victims have the  benefit of                                                               
all   the  additional   statutes  calling   out  AS   11.41.  She                                                               
highlighted  a provision  in AS  12.55.011 allowing  a victim  to                                                               
propose   a  negotiated   sentence   to  the   court.  Under   AS                                                               
12.55.027(g),  an offender  cannot receive  electronic monitoring                                                               
credit  toward their  sentence  if they  are  serving a  sentence                                                               
pursuant to an AS 11.41 offense.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:47:46 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KEMP  spoke  further  about  the  current  legislation.  She                                                               
mentioned  the  introduction  of   concrete  concepts  to  better                                                               
understand  recruitment. The  concepts  are  designed to  address                                                               
several risk factors  that increase the likelihood  that a person                                                               
will  become  the victim  of  sex  trafficking. She  provided  an                                                               
example of a  threat to destroy a person's  passport. The example                                                               
is  based on  reports from  the Polaris  house and  the DOJ.  She                                                               
noted  the concrete  distinction in  the legislation  between sex                                                               
trafficking  and human  trafficking.  Under  current law,  within                                                               
human trafficking there  is a cross reference  to sexual conduct.                                                               
The  proposed legislation  breaks  out sex  acts  from labor  and                                                               
adult entertainment. The bill increases  penalties for several of                                                               
the offenses and focuses on the demand side of trafficking.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:49:39 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KEMP noted that the bill  does not increase penalties for the                                                               
average sex  worker. She explained that  the prostitution statute                                                               
remains a  B misdemeanor for  people who are  offering themselves                                                               
willingly. Penalties are increased  for the purchaser (John), but                                                               
not for  the prostitutes. The  legislation increases  the penalty                                                               
for people  convicted in  the last five  years. If  an individual                                                               
has   been  convicted   twice  in   the  last   five  years   for                                                               
prostitution, he or she will face a C felony offense.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KEMP continued  that the  legislation addresses  the factors                                                               
that cause  the victim to be  at greater risk. She  spoke about a                                                               
provision in  the bill allowing a  person to have an  offence for                                                               
prostitution  and, or  controlled  substance  removed from  their                                                               
record. The provision is an  option when evidence proves that the                                                               
person was a  victim of sex trafficking at the  time they created                                                               
the offense. The  person can appeal to have  the prostitution and                                                               
or controlled substance conviction removed from their record.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:51:36 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   CLAMAN  mentioned   a  hypothetical   cocaine  possession                                                               
conviction from  10 years  ago. He wondered  if the  person could                                                               
sign an affidavit reporting the use  of cocaine while they were a                                                               
victim of sex trafficking.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP  replied that  the court would  require the  standard of                                                               
proof by  a preponderance of  the evidence. She clarified  that a                                                               
preponderance  of the  evidence  is the  lowest  burden of  proof                                                               
available under  the law. She added  that the law allows  for the                                                               
prosecutor to  have an  opportunity to be  heard and  contest the                                                               
assertions  of  fact.  She  speculated  that  the  process  might                                                               
require more  than an  affidavit, depending  on how  the criminal                                                               
rules address the burden.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:53:17 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR CLAMAN  hypothesized about  older drug  convictions lacking                                                               
circumstantial evidence. He pointed  to concerns raised in public                                                               
testimony.  His experience  with the  legislature showed  minimal                                                               
support  for  expungement.  He  found  it  interesting  that  the                                                               
administration was proposing an open-ended expungement.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KEMP responded  that  the committee  might  choose to  place                                                               
additional limitations on the expungement.  The effort is to help                                                               
victims of human and sex trafficking.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KIEHL  asked how  the  expungement  provision works.  He                                                               
wished  to  understand the  problem  the  provision is  meant  to                                                               
address.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:55:45 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KEMP referenced  research identifying  reasons  a person  is                                                               
recruited  into the  industry.  Examples  include withholding  or                                                               
threatening  to  withhold  the   use  of  controlled  substances.                                                               
Persons who  are dependent upon  a controlled substance  might be                                                               
further  manipulated and  sold. The  provision is  an attempt  to                                                               
help people who  enter the business because  they're motivated by                                                               
the use of controlled substances.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:56:46 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  appreciated the description.  He agreed  that some                                                               
people end up  in the sex and human trafficking  arena because of                                                               
drug addiction. He asked about  other criminal endeavors that are                                                               
closely linked to a person forced into trafficking.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP  replied that prostitution and  controlled substance use                                                               
are the two predominant risk factors.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:58:13 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR CLAMAN  agreed that  people with  drug addictions  can find                                                               
themselves  in compromised  situations leading  to human  and sex                                                               
trafficking. He  stressed that human  and sex  trafficking create                                                               
huge  problems  for society.  He  remarked  about the  notion  of                                                               
passing the bill with the  expungement opportunity. He viewed the                                                               
proposed  legislation as  an  administrative  policy decision  to                                                               
advocate for  expungement, which heretofore received  no support.                                                               
He raised  questions about the administration  bringing the issue                                                               
to  the  committee. He  queried  the  process in  the  governor's                                                               
office during the drafting of the legislation.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:00:05 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KEMP  replied  that  as   a  former  district  attorney  she                                                               
recognizes the  procedural challenges  ahead. She noted  that the                                                               
expungement is contingent  on proof that the person  was a victim                                                               
of  sex trafficking.  She  responded to  the  question about  the                                                               
origin of the provision. She  explained that she was not involved                                                               
in  conversations  catalyzing the  provisions  in  the bill.  She                                                               
opined  that there  were  good reasons  to  make the  expungement                                                               
opportunities available. She provided  a real-life example during                                                               
her time as  a prosecutor on cases related  to child pornography.                                                               
She  expounded  that  her job  entailed  verifying  evidence  and                                                               
reviewing the materials. She revealed  that the observations were                                                               
alarming and difficult to forget.  She found herself wondering if                                                               
it was  worse to see  the child victim crying  out in pain  or to                                                               
see  the   child  victim  engaging   in  the   practice.  Through                                                               
reconciliation  of  her  thoughts   and  feelings,  she  revisits                                                               
similar  provisions in  the law  that may  someday benefit  these                                                               
people.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KEMP  acknowledged  the  challenges   and  reasons  why  the                                                               
legislature might  choose to add  appropriate limitations  to the                                                               
bill. She  stated that the  balance was difficult to  strike. She                                                               
empathized with  the legislators working through  the process and                                                               
seeking a balance.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:05:02 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR CLAMAN  agreed that reviewing disturbing  child pornography                                                               
evidence  is   overwhelming.  He   asserted  that   the  proposed                                                               
legislation does provide  a balance. He understood  that a person                                                               
trafficked in  their childhood or early  adulthood has diminished                                                               
ability to speak up about  the abuse. The trafficking environment                                                               
encourages people  to serve their time,  only to be picked  up by                                                               
the traffickers when they are  released from prison. He reflected                                                               
on  the notion  that a  person  would come  forward twenty  years                                                               
following  a  conviction  to  seek   expungement  of  a  drug  or                                                               
prostitution  charge. He  agreed that  the system  should support                                                               
the person and expunge the  charges from their record with proper                                                               
evidence.  He wished  to avoid  expungement of  drug charges  for                                                               
anyone with a 20 year old drug conviction.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:07:03 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GIESSEL wondered  about the burden of  proof allowing the                                                               
court to make  the decision about expungement  of prostitution or                                                               
controlled  substance   charges.  She  provided   a  hypothetical                                                               
example with  a person who  experienced sex trafficking  at eight                                                               
years old and sought expungement twenty years later.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN responded that an 8  year old with drug issues would                                                               
be  overseen in  juvenile  courts. He  explained  that the  issue                                                               
could get quite complicated.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL noted  that addiction does not  resolve; a person                                                               
introduced to  controlled substances at  eight years old  is left                                                               
to struggle with the addiction.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:08:25 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  CLAMAN stated  that he  was raising  questions because  he                                                               
thought they were likely to arise.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP stated  that Ms. Schroeder was available  to provide the                                                               
sectional analysis.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIEHL  discussed his  time spent on  a similar  bill last                                                               
year. He wondered  about comparing the two  pieces of legislation                                                               
in committee.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN  asked if  the legislation he  referred to  was also                                                               
introduced by the Governor.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KIEHL  replied yes,  the  bill  had a  Senate  Judiciary                                                               
Committee  Substitute.  He  wondered how  closely  this  proposal                                                               
reflects the work of the legislature last year.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CLAMAN was  not  able  to speak  to  last year's  proposed                                                               
legislation, but he suggested asking the invited testifiers.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:10:03 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  asked Ms. Kemp if  she was prepared to  answer the                                                               
query.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP deferred the question to her colleague, Ms. Schroeder.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:10:28 PM                                                                                                                    
KACI  SCHROEDER, Assistant  Attorney General,  Criminal Division,                                                               
Department  of Law,  Juneau, Alaska,  responded  to the  question                                                               
from  Senator Kiehl.  She stated  that  the proposed  legislation                                                               
resembles the  version that  passed out  of the  Senate Judiciary                                                               
Committee  last year.  She mentioned  notable changes  related to                                                               
the  sex   trafficking  statutes.  She  stated   that  the  prior                                                               
legislation  delineated sexual  contact  and sexual  penetration,                                                               
which SB 66 does not. The  sections were returned to the language                                                               
as introduced,  which was the  major difference. She  agreed that                                                               
the proposed legislation closely resembles that of last year.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN  asked about the  difference between  sexual contact                                                               
and penetration as related to this legislation.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.SCHROEDER responded that the  version leaving Senate Judiciary                                                               
Standing  Committee  last  year  had higher  charges  for  people                                                               
forced to  engage in  sexual penetration  versus those  forced to                                                               
engage in sexual contact. She stated  that SB 66 does not provide                                                               
the delineation and  instead considers all coercion  to engage in                                                               
commercial sexual acts, as an unclassified felony.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:12:30 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.SCHROEDER paraphrased the sectional analysis for SB 66.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
              SB 66 CRIME OF SEX/HUMAN TRAFFICKING                                                                              
                       SECTIONAL ANALYSIS                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1.  This section makes  a conforming  change to                                                                  
     reflect the amendments made in section 4.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section    2.   This    section   makes    confidential                                                                  
     communications between a victim  of sex trafficking and                                                                    
     a victim counselor privileged.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3.  This section makes  a conforming  change to                                                                  
     reflect the amendments made in section 4.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4.  This section enacts  a new  offense series:                                                                  
     sex  trafficking  in  the   first,  second,  and  third                                                                    
     degrees.  In  essence,  a  person   is  guilty  of  sex                                                                    
     trafficking  in  the  first  degree  (unclassified  sex                                                                    
     felony) if the  person (1) uses force or  the threat of                                                                    
     force  to  coerce someone  to  engage  in a  commercial                                                                    
     sexual acts; (2) traffics a  person under the age of 20                                                                    
     or  who  is  in  the person's  legal  custody;  or  (3)                                                                    
     manages,   supervises,  or   controls  a   prostitution                                                                    
     enterprise  or a  place of  prostitution.  A person  is                                                                    
     guilty of  sex trafficking in the  second degree (class                                                                    
     A sex felony)  if the person induces  or causes another                                                                    
     person  to  engage  in   commercial  sexual  acts.  Sex                                                                    
     trafficking in  the first and  second degrees  would be                                                                    
     sentenced  under  the  enhanced  penalties  for  sexual                                                                    
     felonies and  the person would be  required to register                                                                    
     as  a  sex   offender.  A  person  is   guilty  of  sex                                                                    
     trafficking in the third degree  if the person provides                                                                    
     resources  in  furtherance  of the  commission  of  sex                                                                    
     trafficking. Sex trafficking in the third degree is a                                                                      
     class B felony  if the value of  the resources provided                                                                    
     in  furtherance of  trafficking is  $200 or  more or  a                                                                    
     class C  felony if the  value of the resources  is less                                                                    
     than  $200.  Sex trafficking  in  the  third degree  is                                                                    
     sentenced as  a class B  or C sex  felony and is  not a                                                                    
     registerable sex offense. This  section also enacts the                                                                    
     new crime of  "patron of a victim  of sex trafficking."                                                                    
     A person  is guilty of  being a  patron of a  victim of                                                                    
     sex trafficking if they  solicit commercial sexual acts                                                                    
     with  reckless  disregard  that the  person,  they  are                                                                    
     soliciting is a  victim of sex trafficking,  or if they                                                                    
     solicit sexual acts from a  person under the age of 18.                                                                    
     If the person solicited is  under 18 years of age, this                                                                    
     offense will  be a  class B sex  felony. If  the person                                                                    
     solicited is an  adult, this offense will be  a class C                                                                    
     sex  felony. This  crime would  be sentenced  under the                                                                    
     enhanced penalties  for sexual felonies and  the person                                                                    
     would be required to register as a sex offender.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section  5.  This section  amends  the  crime of  human                                                                  
     trafficking in  the first degree to  be an unclassified                                                                    
     felony when  the person induces  or causes a  person to                                                                    
     engage in adult entertainment  or labor through the use                                                                    
     of force against  the victim or if the  victim is under                                                                    
     the age of 20.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 6. This section  denotes that human trafficking                                                                  
     in the first degree is an unclassified felony.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section  7. This  section amends  human trafficking  in                                                                  
     the second  degree to include  situations in  which the                                                                    
     person induces  or causes another  person to  engage in                                                                    
     adult  entertainment  or  labor   by  (1)  exposing  or                                                                    
     threatening  to expose  confidential  information or  a                                                                    
     secret,  whether true  or false,  tending to  subject a                                                                    
     person   to   hatred,   contempt,  or   ridicule;   (2)                                                                    
     destroying,  concealing, or  threatening to  destroy or                                                                    
     conceal an actual or  purported passport or immigration                                                                    
     document or another  actual or purported identification                                                                    
     document  of any  person; (3)  threatening to  report a                                                                    
     person  to  a  government  agency for  the  purpose  of                                                                    
     arrest  or deportation;  (4) threatening  to collect  a                                                                    
     debt; (5) instilling in another  person a fear that the                                                                    
     actor  will withhold  from  any  person lodging,  food,                                                                    
     clothing, or  medication; (6) providing  or withholding                                                                    
     controlled   substances  from   the   person;  or   (7)                                                                    
     deceiving  the   victim.  Under  this   section,  human                                                                    
     trafficking in the second degree is a class A felony.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 8. This  section enacts the new  crime of human                                                                  
     trafficking in the third degree.  A person is guilty of                                                                    
     human trafficking  in the third degree  if they provide                                                                    
     resources  in furtherance  of human  trafficking. Human                                                                    
     trafficking in the third degree  is a class B felony if                                                                    
     the value of the resources is  $200 or more and a class                                                                    
     C felony  if the  value of the  resources is  less than                                                                    
     $200.   The   section   also   clarifies   that   human                                                                    
     trafficking   does   not   include   normal   caretaker                                                                    
     interactions with a minor (for  example, asking a child                                                                    
     to  shovel the  driveway  in exchange  for  an item  of                                                                    
     clothing etc.). The section  also clarifies current law                                                                    
     that  corroboration  of  a victim's  testimony  is  not                                                                    
     necessary. A jury  has the ability to  convict based on                                                                    
     a  victim's testimony  alone. This  language is  simply                                                                    
     relocated to  AS 11.41 along  with the rest of  the sex                                                                    
     trafficking  statutes.  The  section also  makes  clear                                                                    
     that  any   property  used  to  commit   sex  or  human                                                                    
     trafficking may be forfeited.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section  9. This  section clarifies  that the  crime of                                                                  
     coercion is only  to be used if the  sex trafficking or                                                                    
     human trafficking elements are not present.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 10.  This section is a  conforming change which                                                                  
     references  the new  sex  trafficking  statutes in  the                                                                    
     prostitution statute.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section  11. This  section  increases  the penalty  for                                                                  
     being a "John" from a class  B misdemeanor to a class A                                                                    
     misdemeanor. Upon a third  conviction within five years                                                                    
     for being a "John", the  offense is again elevated to a                                                                    
     class C felony.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section 12.  This section  states that  if a  "John" is                                                                  
     convicted  under  the  class   C  felony  provision  in                                                                    
     section 11,  any property used  in order to  commit the                                                                    
     offense may be forfeited.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Sections  13 and  14.  These  sections make  conforming                                                                  
     changes related to  the amendments made in  section 4 -                                                                    
     9.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section  15. This  section  adds  the definitions  that                                                                  
     apply  to   the  prostitution  statutes  and   the  sex                                                                    
     trafficking statutes to  the general definition statute                                                                    
     in Title 11 (AS 11.81.900).                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 16.  This section establishes that  there is no                                                                  
     statute of  limitations for  sex trafficking  and human                                                                    
     trafficking in  the first and second  degrees. However,                                                                    
     the statute  of limitations for sex  trafficking in the                                                                    
     third degree and human trafficking  in the third degree                                                                    
     is ten years.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section  17.  This  section  makes  conforming  changes                                                                  
     reflecting the amendments to  sex trafficking and human                                                                    
     trafficking.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section   18.    This   section    makes   confidential                                                                  
     communications between a victim  of sex trafficking and                                                                    
     a victim counselor privileged.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Sections  19  -  21.  These  sections  make  conforming                                                                  
     changes  to  sex   trafficking  and  human  trafficking                                                                    
     references that appear in those statutes.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section  22.   This  section  establishes   that  human                                                                  
     trafficking,  as   an  unclassified  felony,   will  be                                                                    
     sentenced between 5 and 99 years.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section 23.  This section  amends AS  12.55.125(i) (the                                                                  
     sex offense sentencing  statutes) incorporating the new                                                                    
     sex trafficking statutes and patron  of a victim of sex                                                                    
     trafficking statute.  This ensures that  these offenses                                                                    
     will  be subject  to  the  higher sentences  associated                                                                    
     with sex offenses. This section  also corrects an error                                                                    
     in  the citation  of unlawful  exploitation of  a minor                                                                    
     under  AS 11.41.455(c)(1)  and  indecent  viewing of  a                                                                    
     picture under AS 11.61.123.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 24. This  section establishes mandatory minimum                                                                  
     terms  of imprisonment  for  repeat  "Johns." Upon  the                                                                    
     second conviction  with five years, the  person will be                                                                    
     subject  to  a class  A  misdemeanor  with a  mandatory                                                                    
     minimum  of  72  hours  to  serve.  If  the  person  is                                                                    
     convicted three times within five  years, the person is                                                                    
     subject to the class C felony sentencing provisions.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section 25.  This section  makes conforming  changes to                                                                  
     the definition of "most  serious felony" reflecting the                                                                    
     new sex trafficking statutes.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section  26.  This  section adds  sex  trafficking  and                                                                  
     patron  of   a  victim   of  sex  trafficking   to  the                                                                    
     definition   of  "sexual   felony"  and   corrects  the                                                                    
     citation  to indecent  viewing of  a  picture under  AS                                                                    
     11.61.123.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section  27.   This  section   makes  changes   to  the                                                                  
     definition of "serious offense"  reflecting the new sex                                                                    
     trafficking and human trafficking statutes.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 28.  This section adds  sex trafficking  in the                                                                  
     first and second degrees and  patron of a victim of sex                                                                    
     trafficking to  the list of registerable  sex offenses.                                                                    
     This  section also  corrects the  citation to  indecent                                                                    
     viewing or production of a picture under AS 11.61.123.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 29. This section  establishes a process whereby                                                                  
     a  person who  has been  convicted of  prostitution can                                                                    
     get that  conviction or a conviction  for possession of                                                                    
     a  controlled substance  vacated  if they  are able  to                                                                    
     show that they were a  victim of sex trafficking at the                                                                    
     time   that  they   committed  the   offense.  If   the                                                                    
     conviction  is  vacated,  the   court  system  may  not                                                                    
     publish   records  relating   to   the  conviction   on                                                                    
     CourtView  nor  may  the Department  of  Public  Safety                                                                    
     release  that  information  as part  of  an  employment                                                                    
     background check.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Sections 30 - 32. These  sections add the prevention of                                                                  
     sex  trafficking to  the subjects  that the  Council on                                                                    
     Domestic  Violence and  Sexual Assault  should consider                                                                    
     and develop educational materials and programs for.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Sections  33 and  34.  These  sections make  conforming                                                                  
     changes    to    the    limitations    on    privileged                                                                    
     communications and  add a victim of  sex trafficking to                                                                    
     the definition of "victim."                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section   35.  This   section  adds   victims  of   sex                                                                  
     trafficking  to  the  list of  victims  whom  a  crisis                                                                    
     intervention  and  prevention  program is  designed  to                                                                    
     assist.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section   36.  This   section  adds   victims  of   sex                                                                  
     trafficking  to the  list of  victims  who can  receive                                                                    
     assistance from the Violent Crimes Compensation Board.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 37. This section allows  the public defender to                                                                  
     represent  an  indigent  person during  a  vacation  of                                                                    
     judgment proceeding.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Sections  38 and  39.  These  sections make  conforming                                                                  
     changes  referencing  the  changes   made  to  the  sex                                                                    
     trafficking statutes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 40.  This section  makes a  person who  has had                                                                  
     their conviction for  prostitution vacated eligible for                                                                    
     a permanent fund dividend.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section  41.  This  section  authorizes  administrative                                                                  
     subpoenas  for sex  trafficking in  the first,  second,                                                                    
     and third degrees.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Sections  42  -  45.  These  sections  make  conforming                                                                  
     changes  referencing  the  changes   made  to  the  sex                                                                    
     trafficking statutes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 46. This section is the repealer section.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section 47. This section  is the applicability section.                                                                  
     The  majority  of  this bill  will  apply  to  offenses                                                                    
     occurring on or after the effective date.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section  48.   This  section  makes  the   vacation  of                                                                  
     judgment sections  of the bill effective  on January 1,                                                                    
     2024.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section  49. This  section makes  the remainder  of the                                                                  
     bill effective July 1, 2023.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:25:45 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAUFMAN  mentioned the definition  section and  asked how                                                               
inducement is defined.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHROEDER  explained that  the bill  specifies that  a person                                                               
must  induce or  cause an  individual to  engage in  a commercial                                                               
sexual act. The definition of  inducing or causing as they relate                                                               
to sex trafficking  is found on page 4 of  the bill. She informed                                                               
that page 4 includes a list  of examples of inducing or causing a                                                               
person to engage  in a commercial sexual act. She  added that the                                                               
list was not exhaustive.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:27:34 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR CLAMAN  asked about moving  both sex trafficking  and human                                                               
trafficking  from chapter  66 to  chapter 41.  He wondered  about                                                               
changes to definitions or the basic structure of the bill.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHROEDER  replied that the  human trafficking  statutes were                                                               
already located  in AS 11.41.  The sex trafficking  statutes were                                                               
indeed moved to  AS 11.41. The department  broadened the language                                                               
and  increased   penalties.  The  bill  adds   factors  that  are                                                               
currently  not regularly  considered  by the  courts. She  opined                                                               
that  it was  helpful  to have  those  considerations defined  in                                                               
statute. She  added that human  and sex trafficking  conduct were                                                               
manipulative  and  insidious,  which led  the  administration  to                                                               
outline the factors and raise the penalties.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN asked  Ms. Schroeder if she referred to  the list on                                                               
page 4 when she spoke about factors.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHROEDER replied in the affirmative.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CLAMAN   understood  the   seven  factors  in   the  human                                                               
trafficking  provision. He  asked about  federal prosecutions  in                                                               
Alaska. He requested  statistics related to the  frequency of sex                                                               
and human  trafficking prosecutions in  Alaska over the  last ten                                                               
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:29:48 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KEMP   suggested  that  prosecutions   for  human   and  sex                                                               
trafficking  in Alaska  are infrequent  and typically  handled by                                                               
the Office  of Special Prosecutions.  She added that  she doesn't                                                               
know the federal prosecution data,  but she would do research and                                                               
provide further information to the chair and committee.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CLAMAN asked why state-level prosecutions were infrequent.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP  opined that the  lack of reporting leads  to infrequent                                                               
prosecution. Research shows  that victims do not  report human or                                                               
sex  trafficking.  She  spoke  about  challenges  in  immigration                                                               
scenarios where  language access  is barred. One  intervention is                                                               
to provide  increased access to  the court system for  victims of                                                               
trafficking.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:31:13 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  pointed to the  definition of  adult entertainment                                                               
on page  11. He  noted that  the bill  that the  Senate Judiciary                                                               
Committee  passed  last year  referenced  Title  23. He  wondered                                                               
about substantive  differences between the two  bills in relation                                                               
to Title 23.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SCHROEDER  replied  that  the change  was  made  last  year,                                                               
because  the  definition  of  adult  entertainment  in  Title  23                                                               
discusses actual or stimulated.  The administration chose another                                                               
definition that does not include the word "actual."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:32:12 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR CLAMAN opened public testimony on SB 66.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:32:33 PM                                                                                                                    
AMBER NICKERSON,  representing self, Juneau, Alaska  testified in                                                               
opposition   to  SB   66.  She   stated   that  the   legislation                                                               
criminalizes  sex workers  and  clients.  She suggested  amending                                                               
Section 4  of AS 11.41 by  adding new sections to  read "manages,                                                               
supervises,  controls  or owns  either  alone  or with  others  a                                                               
prostitution enterprise  or a place  of prostitution."  She added                                                               
that  a  place of  prostitution  means  a  place where  a  person                                                               
engages in  commercial sex in return  for a fee. She  feared that                                                               
working indoors would become an  unclassified felony. Sex workers                                                               
would be charged  with unclassified felonies if they  own a place                                                               
of  prostitution.  She stated  that  working  in isolation  makes                                                               
prostitutes  vulnerable for  robbery, assault,  rape and  murder.                                                               
The  bill also  criminalizes  customers as  sex traffickers.  She                                                               
opined  that   clients  should  be  granted   the  same  immunity                                                               
protection as  sex workers including  the ability to  report when                                                               
they are victims or witnesses  to crimes such as sex trafficking.                                                               
Under  SB  66,  Alaska  uses  resources  and  funding  to  create                                                               
fictitious   prostitution   sting  operations   shaming   Alaskan                                                               
residents before they are found guilty.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:34:38 PM                                                                                                                    
KATIE  BOTZ,  representing  self,  Juneau,  Alaska  testified  in                                                               
support  SB 66.  She thanked  the administration  for introducing                                                               
the  bill  despite  the  challenging nature  of  the  topic.  She                                                               
stressed  that  passage   of  SB  66  was   vital  to  protecting                                                               
vulnerable  populations. She  acknowledged  that  the effort  was                                                               
introduced in  previous legislation.  She stated  that she  was a                                                               
concerned constituent who was sexually  assaulted as a child, and                                                               
she found it vital to increase penalties for sex trafficking.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:37:12 PM                                                                                                                    
TERRA BURNS,  representing self, Community United  for Safety and                                                               
Protections,  Fairbanks, Alaska,  testified in  opposition to  SB
66. She stated that she was  trafficked as a minor in Alaska. She                                                               
worked in  Alaska's sex industry  for two decades.  She completed                                                               
her graduate  research at the  University of Alaska  Fairbanks on                                                               
the  lived experiences  and policy  recommendations of  people in                                                               
Alaska's sex trade.  She noted that she  attempted to participate                                                               
in task force  meetings during the creation of the  bill. She was                                                               
denied  entry  to  the  public task  force  meetings,  which  she                                                               
believes violates the Alaska Open Meetings Act.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:38:49 PM                                                                                                                    
MAXINE  DOOGAN, representing  self, Community  United for  Safety                                                               
and Protection, Fairbanks, Alaska,  testified in opposition to SB
66. She  informed the committee that  she was a prostitute  of 30                                                               
plus years  and she hoped to  work for 30 plus  more. She opposed                                                               
the  legislation   because  it  recriminalizes  clients   as  sex                                                               
traffickers,  which she  finds  disrespectful and  inappropriate.                                                               
She stated  that the fiscal note  creates a slush fund  to arrest                                                               
sex  workers  and  clients  under   the  guise  of  rescuing  sex                                                               
trafficking  victims. She  opined that  police crackdowns  on sex                                                               
work do not reduce the  incidence of sex trafficking. She opposed                                                               
referring to her clients as "Johns" as the term is pejorative.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:41:22 PM                                                                                                                    
BELLA   ROBINSON,  Executive   Director,  Coyote   Rhode  Island,                                                               
testified  in opposition  to  SB  66. She  stated  that many  sex                                                               
workers  and  sex trafficking  victims  are  more afraid  of  the                                                               
police than  of violent perpetrators.  She noted that  clients of                                                               
sex  workers  are  the  people   most  likely  to  encounter  sex                                                               
trafficking  survivors but  recording  them  might mean  criminal                                                               
charges.  She remarked  that  trafficking  victims are  arrested,                                                               
which subjects  them to  judgement and  the traumatic  arrest and                                                               
media coverage subject them to discrimination.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:44:04 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR CLAMAN closed public testimony on SB 66.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:44:48 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL referred to comments  made during public testimony.                                                               
He heard that those who  purchase commercial sex are criminalized                                                               
if they  report sex  trafficking during  a transaction.  He asked                                                               
how that worked in Section 10 of the proposed legislation.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:45:27 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  KEMP stated  that the  clients  purchasing sex  do not  have                                                               
separate  immunity. Under  the current  language, clients  can be                                                               
prosecuted if they attempt to file a report.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KIEHL noted  that  Section 10  indicates  that a  person                                                               
might   not  be   prosecuted  under   paragraph  (a)(1)   of  the                                                               
prostitution statute.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KEMP replied  that paragraph  (a)(1) relates  to the  person                                                               
selling sex.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   KIEHL  asked   about  the   definition  for   place  of                                                               
prostitution and  enterprise. He asked how  the definitions apply                                                               
to the proposed legislation.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP  cited the proposed  Sec. 11.41.340. Sex  trafficking in                                                               
the first  degree. She  said the issue  with paragraph  (a)(3) is                                                               
the  requirement that  the  prosecution  proves the  prostitution                                                               
enterprise.  A  prostitution  enterprise   means  that  they  are                                                               
organized  to render  sexual conduct  in  return for  a fee.  The                                                               
definition of sexual  conduct establishes that the  fee cannot be                                                               
shared via apportioned spaces. She  provided an example where two                                                               
individuals selling  sex agree to  rent a hotel room;  they could                                                               
not be prosecuted  under the theory of  a prosecution enterprise.                                                               
Similarly,  place  of  prostitution cross  references  commercial                                                               
sexual conduct, which carves that out as a theory.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIEHL wished to make sure  that the carve-out was not too                                                               
broad.  He understood  that  if  a person  took  a  share of  the                                                               
revenue, then the charge would fall under the criminal act.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP  replied yes,  and the process  would be  different than                                                               
the shared apportioned space carve-out.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:50:03 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  CLAMAN referenced  paragraph  (a)(3) on  page  3, and  the                                                               
example stated  in public testimony  where one person owns  a two                                                               
bedroom apartment and  rents a spare room  to another prostitute.                                                               
He asked if the apartment owner  is subject to sex trafficking in                                                               
the  first degree  as  a product  of renting  a  room to  another                                                               
prostitute.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KEMP replied  no because  the scenario  depicted was  shared                                                               
apportioned spaces.  She clarified  that one person  renting from                                                               
another person  without facts to  support any  additional payment                                                               
does  not  meet  the  definition  of  place  of  prostitution  or                                                               
prostitution enterprise.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CLAMAN asked  about evidence  that the  price charged  for                                                               
renting   the   apartment   reflects   they   are   engaging   in                                                               
prostitution. He hypothesized that if  a room in a home routinely                                                               
costs $1000, suspicion might arise if the rent is $2500 monthly.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP replied  that the language for commercial  sex acts does                                                               
not  include compensation  for apportioned  shared expenses.  She                                                               
pointed  to  page   11  and  the  term   "reasonable"  under  the                                                               
circumstances. She offered hypothetically,  if one individual was                                                               
charged  $5000 for  a one-bedroom  apartment, a  prosecutor might                                                               
make the argument that the  rent is unreasonable, which does meet                                                               
the definition of commercial sexual act.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:52:56 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  CLAMAN wondered  if Nancy  Meade might  provide statistics                                                               
related to frequency of federal  prosecutions for sex trafficking                                                               
in Alaska.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. KEMP  responded to the  concerns voiced in  public testimony.                                                               
She  referred  to the  opposition  letter  listing two  principal                                                               
concerns related to changes in  the criminal law. She stated that                                                               
the concern  related to  the patronage  of sex  trafficking would                                                               
unnecessarily  expose individuals  to  heightened penalties.  She                                                               
clarified that  the prostitution  statute under AS  11.66 remains                                                               
the same.  For the patronage  of victim sex  trafficking, several                                                               
aspects must be  proved prior to a criminal  charge. Evidence for                                                               
sex  trafficking involves  proof  that  the individual  knowingly                                                               
solicits  commercial sexual  acts with  reckless disregard  for a                                                               
person who is  engaging in the sexual act. She  supposed that the                                                               
public  testimony concerns  missed elements  that the  state must                                                               
show in  order to  meet that particular  statute. She  added that                                                               
the court  must prove  a mental state  related to  paragraphs (1)                                                               
and (2) under the patronage of victim sex trafficking.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:55:28 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair Claman  adjourned the  Senate Judiciary  Standing Committee                                                               
meeting at 2:55 pm.                                                                                                             

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SB 80 version S 2.24.2023.PDF SJUD 3/1/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 80 Sponsor Statement version S 2.28.2023.pdf SJUD 3/1/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 80 Sectional Summary version S 2.24.2023.pdf SJUD 3/1/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 80 Supporting Document - Letter from Department of Law 2023 Revisor Bill 2.12.2023.pdf SJUD 3/1/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 80 Supporting Document - Alaska Statutory References 2.28.2023.pdf SJUD 3/1/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 80 Fiscal Note LAW-GS 2.27.2023.pdf SJUD 3/1/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 66 version A 2.8.2023.PDF SJUD 3/6/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 66 Transmittal Letter version A 2.7.2023.pdf SJUD 3/6/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 66 Highlights version A 3.2.2023.pdf SJUD 3/6/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 66 Sectional Analysis version A 2.8.2023.pdf SJUD 3/6/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 66 Opposing Document - Letters Received as of 3.6.2023.pdf SJUD 3/6/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 66 Fiscal Note DOA-OPA 2.1.2023.pdf SJUD 3/6/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 66 Fiscal Note DOA-PDA 1.30.2023.pdf SJUD 3/6/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 66 Fiscal Note DOC-IDO 2.1.2023.pdf SJUD 3/6/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 66 Fiscal Note LAW-CJL 1.17.2023.pdf SJUD 3/6/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 66 Fiscal Note DPS-AST 2.1.2023.pdf SJUD 3/6/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 66 Fiscal Note DPS-CDVSA 2.2.2023.pdf SJUD 3/6/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 66 Fiscal Note DPS-SWS 1.29.2023.pdf SJUD 3/6/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 66 Fiscal Note DPS-VVCB 2.1.2023.pdf SJUD 3/6/2023 1:30:00 PM
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SB 66 Fiscal Note JUD-ACS 3.3.2023.pdf SJUD 3/6/2023 1:30:00 PM
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