Legislature(2005 - 2006)BUTROVICH 205

04/22/2005 02:30 PM Senate HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES


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02:34:57 PM Start
02:38:02 PM Confirmation Hearing: Board of Marital & Family Therapy
02:48:04 PM Confirmation Hearing: Board of Education and Early Childhood Development
03:01:56 PM Confirmation Hearing: University of Alaska Board of Regents
03:04:28 PM Confirmation Hearing: Board of Marital and Family Therapy
03:10:17 PM Confirmation Hearing: Professional Teaching Practices Commission
03:18:42 PM Confirmation Hearing: Board of Education and Early Child Development
03:21:47 PM Confirmation Hearing: Board of Psychologists and Psychological Examiners
03:23:59 PM Confirmation Hearing: Board of Dental Examiners
03:32:00 PM Adjourn
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
SENATE HEALTH, EDUCATION AND SOCIAL SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                               
                         April 22, 2005                                                                                         
                           2:34 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Fred Dyson, Chair                                                                                                       
Senator Gary Wilken, Vice Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Kim Elton                                                                                                               
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyda Green                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
CONFIRMATION HEARINGS:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
University of Alaska Board of Regents - Robert Martin                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Board of Marital & Family Therapy - Kerry Rassmussen, Martha                                                                    
Swank                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Board of Nursing - Terri Olson                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
The Professional Practices Commission - Karen Macklin                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Board of Education and Early Childhood Development - Esther Cox,                                                                
Shirley Holloway                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Board of Psychologists and Psychological Associate Examiners -                                                                  
Destiny Sargent                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Board of Dental Examiners - William Gerace                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
KERRY RASSMUSSEN                                                                                                                
Box 1122                                                                                                                        
Ward Cove, Alaska  99928                                                                                                        
POSITION STATEMENT: Confirmation candidate.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ESTHER COX                                                                                                                      
7705 Highlander Dr.                                                                                                             
Anchorage, Alaska  99518                                                                                                        
POSITION STATEMENT: Confirmation candidate.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT MARTIN                                                                                                                   
9354 Rivercourt Way                                                                                                             
Juneau, Alaska  99801                                                                                                           
POSITION STATEMENT: Confirmation candidate.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MARTHA SWANK                                                                                                                    
1727 West 5th                                                                                                                   
Anchorage, Alaska  99501                                                                                                        
POSITION STATEMENT: Confirmation candidate.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
TERRI OLSON                                                                                                                     
4256 Birch Run Drive                                                                                                            
Anchorage, AK  99507                                                                                                            
POSITION STATEMENT: Confirmation candidate.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
KAREN MACKLIN                                                                                                                   
Sitka, Alaska  99835                                                                                                            
POSITION STATEMENT: Confirmation candidate.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SHIRLEY HOLLOWAY, Commissioner                                                                                                  
Department of Education and Early Development                                                                                   
801 West 10th Street, Suite 200                                                                                                 
Juneau, Alaska  99801-1894                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT: Confirmation candidate.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DESTINY SARGENT                                                                                                                 
Box 34881                                                                                                                       
Juneau, Alaska  99803                                                                                                           
POSITION STATEMENT: Confirmation candidate.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
WILLIAM GERACE                                                                                                                  
1600 E Tudor Road.                                                                                                              
Anchorage, Alaska 99507                                                                                                         
POSITION STATEMENT: Confirmation candidate.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRED DYSON  called the Senate Health,  Education and Social                                                             
Services  Standing  Committee meeting  to  order  at 2:34:57  PM.                                                             
Present were  Senators Kim  Elton, Donny  Olson, Gary  Wilken and                                                               
Chair Fred Dyson.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON announced the confirmation hearings would be heard.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:38:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^ CONFIRMATION HEARING: BOARD OF MARITAL & FAMILY THERAPY                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON asked MS. RASSMUSSEN  the reason she desires to serve                                                               
on the Board of Martial and Family Therapy.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
KERRY  RASSMUSSEN  said  she  aspires to  make  changes  such  as                                                               
requiring  background checks  for people  in the  field. She  has                                                               
lived in Ketchikan since 1967 and wants to help the community.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR OLSON  said, "Looking at  your resume, it seems  that you                                                               
have not had a  lot of training in this field.  How do you expect                                                               
to add to your qualifications?"                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. RASSMUSSEN  responded she has  been married for 37  years and                                                               
believes that is a sufficient qualification.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:41:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^ CONFIRMATION  HEARING: BOARD OF  EDUCATION AND  EARLY CHILDHOOD                                                           
DEVELOPMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  asked Ms. Cox the  reason she wants to  serve on the                                                               
Board of Education and Early Development.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ESTHER COX replied she has served  on the board for two years and                                                               
this would be a reappointment.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  asked Ms.  Cox the most  important issue  facing the                                                               
education community.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. COX  replied providing  a quality  education was  the biggest                                                               
challenge facing the community.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  asked her to  give her  opinion of groups  trying to                                                               
provide  educational alternatives  such  as  charter schools  and                                                               
distance education.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. COX responded she is  fully in favor of providing educational                                                               
alternatives to children so long as they are financially viable.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN said  he was disappointed in the  Board for asking                                                               
for funding  for boarding  schools without  a long-term  plan for                                                               
management. He  expressed hopes that  the board would  plan ahead                                                               
in  the  future,  especially  with  regards  to  boarding  school                                                               
policies.  He asked  Ms.  Cox  how she  feels  about the  state's                                                               
current funding of boarding schools.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. COX responded she is  interested in the wellbeing of existing                                                               
boarding schools  such as  Edgecumbe. She  looks at  the boarding                                                               
schools  from  the  perspective   of  academic  performance,  and                                                               
teacher   retention   and   from  that   perspective   they   are                                                               
institutions that should be supported.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN said  there has been ongoing  discussion about the                                                               
possibility   of  the   state  providing   cash  incentives   for                                                               
improvements  in  academic   performance  on  a  school-by-school                                                               
basis. He asked Ms. Cox what she felt about that possibility.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:48:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. COX responded it is a concept that should be pursued.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WILKEN said  he would  be willing  to release  the purse                                                               
strings to help improve individual and school performance.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:48:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  said he is  disappointed in  the net results  of the                                                               
regulations  on distance  schools  and the  present situation  in                                                               
which   some  parents   buy  materials   that  are   academically                                                               
acceptable.  They  are  censored   because  they  have  religious                                                               
content.  He   asked  the  witness   what  she  felt   about  the                                                               
regulations.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. COX  responded she  believes that  parents should  be allowed                                                               
greater discretion  in choosing their children's  curriculum, but                                                               
she  is highly  cognizant  of how  such  allowances might  affect                                                               
funding for education.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DYSON  asked whether  she  felt  that mathematicians  like                                                               
Pythagoras, who  viewed the  world as  representing some  kind of                                                               
design, should be excluded from the curriculum.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. COX  responded when the  Office of the Attorney  General says                                                               
that something is unconstitutional she  has a responsibility as a                                                               
board member to accept its assertion as a truism.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON said:                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     That is absolutely inadequate and you should have the                                                                      
      courage to stand up to the opinion of the Office of                                                                       
     the Attorney General.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. COX said:                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     You seem  to say that  I should challenge  the Attorney                                                                    
     General and that is a  very real possibility. I suppose                                                                    
     that I  would have to know  a lot more than  I now know                                                                    
     in order to do that.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON said  the opinion of the Attorney General  is just an                                                               
opinion and he  encourages board members to  question and perhaps                                                               
act against that opinion.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  ELTON  complemented  the  witness on  her  caution  with                                                               
respect to her consideration of funding for education.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:55:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^ CONFIRMATION HEARING: UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA BOARD OF REGENTS                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON asked Mr. Martin the  reason he wants to serve on the                                                               
Board of Regents for the University of Alaska.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT  MARTIN  responded as  an  alumnus  of the  University  of                                                               
Alaska (UA) system he has a  vested interest in its wellbeing. He                                                               
said that  as he was  growing up he  looked up to  family members                                                               
who  had graduated  from college.  Few native  children have  the                                                               
opportunity  to look  to educated  people as  role models  and he                                                               
wanted to change that.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON applauded Mr. Martin's remarks.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILLKEN thanked the witness for his service.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON  said he has known  Mr. Martin for a  long time and                                                               
that the  length and excellence  of his  service to the  state is                                                               
remarkable and highly commendable.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:01:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^ CONFIRMATION HEARING: BOARD OF MARITAL AND FAMILY THERAPY                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  asked Ms. Swank the  reason she desires to  serve on                                                               
the Board of Marital and Family Therapy.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MARTHA SWANK responded she has been  married for 47 years and has                                                               
two children who are both  married. Marriage and family have been                                                               
a very important part of her life.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON asked Ms. Swank  what she thought about combining two                                                               
or three of the supervisory boards.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. SWANK  responded she  is in  favor of  combining some  of the                                                               
supervisory boards.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:04:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^ CONFIRMATION HEARING: BOARD OF NURSING                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  asked Ms. Olson the  reason she desires to  serve on                                                               
the Board of Nursing.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
TERRI OLSON  said as a  registered nurse  who is licensed  by the                                                               
Board  of  Nursing,   she  shares  its  mission   of  safety  and                                                               
excellence.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  asked Ms.  Olson what she  thinks about  the state's                                                               
decision to give nurses prescription authority.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. OLSON  replied she  thinks that it  is wonderful,  because it                                                               
brings  medical   services  into  rural  areas   that  would  not                                                               
otherwise have them.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  OLSON asked  Ms.  Olson why  she  included her  Colorado                                                               
license on her resume.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  OLSON responded  that was  her  first license  and she  only                                                               
maintains it on her resume for sentimental reasons.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
^   CONFIRMATION   HEARING:   PROFESSIONAL   TEACHING   PRACTICES                                                         
COMMISSION                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON asked Ms. Macklin the  reason she desires to serve on                                                               
the Professional Teaching Practices Commission.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
KAREN MACKLIN  said her colleagues  nominated her to  the current                                                               
position. It is  important for a teacher to be  on the commission                                                               
and  she   feels  particularly  pleased  to   represent  a  rural                                                               
prospective on it.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DYSON said  he  feels  the Sitka  School  District has  an                                                               
enlightened view of  education and he applauds any  part that Ms.                                                               
Macklin has taken in the operation of the district.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:10:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON asked whether the state  has made any progress in the                                                               
last  few  years in  making  life  easier for  special  education                                                               
teachers.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. MACKLIN replied  due to the unfunded mandate of  the No Child                                                               
Left Behind Act and the high  stakes exit exams, the schools have                                                               
not  been able  to  make significant  progress  in making  things                                                               
easier for  special education teachers.  Many of the  new special                                                               
education programs  are difficult  to implement since  the school                                                               
districts have  difficulty providing  time to train  teachers for                                                               
the programs.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:12:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^  CONFIRMATION  HEARING:  BOARD  OF EDUCATION  AND  EARLY  CHILD                                                         
DEVELOPMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  asked Ms. Holloway  the reason she desires  to serve                                                               
on the Board of Education and Early Child Development.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SHIRLEY HOLLOWAY said she wants to give something back.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  asked Ms. Holloway  how she feels about  the Board's                                                               
funding of  boarding schools and  its prohibition of  the state's                                                               
reimbursement for religious correspondence programs.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HOLLOWAY  answered  boarding  schools  should  be  carefully                                                               
evaluated with  regards to the  relationship between  funding and                                                               
academic  performance.   The  Board   needs  guidance   from  the                                                               
Legislature  in developing  the state's  boarding school  policy.                                                               
She  supports  performance  incentives, but  believes  the  Board                                                               
should establish  a growth model  for all children, not  just the                                                               
children who meet the bar.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
With respect  to Chair Dyson's  earlier question  about religious                                                               
correspondence  programs,   it  seems   that  the   chairman  has                                                               
information she has  not seen. She was not aware  of the audit or                                                               
of  the opinion  that  the  Attorney General  sent  to the  state                                                               
board. She  said correspondence  is a  wonderful concept  and she                                                               
thoroughly supports it.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:18:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^ CONFIRMATION HEARING: BOARD  OF PSYCHOLOGISTS AND PSYCHOLOGICAL                                                           
EXAMINERS                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON asked Ms. Sargent the  reason she desires to serve on                                                               
the   Board   of   Psychologists  and   Psychological   Associate                                                               
Examiners.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DESTINY SARGENT  said she  wants to serve  because she  loves her                                                               
job and wants to contribute at the board level.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON asked Ms. Sargent  whether she senses problems within                                                               
the field that need addressed.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SARGENT said  she does  not know  of any  particular concern                                                               
except  that it  is important  to  protect the  integrity of  the                                                               
profession and the safety of its cliental.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:21:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON  said the  witness is not  only a  professional who                                                               
has provided services to people  in desperate situations, but she                                                               
is also an  exceptionally kind person and he  wholly supports her                                                               
confirmation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
^ CONFIRMATION HEARING: BOARD OF DENTAL EXAMINERS                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON asked  the Mr. Gerace the reason he  desires to serve                                                               
on the Board of Dental Examiners.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
WILLIAM GERACE said he is  very happy with his experience serving                                                               
on the  board. He has committed  his adult life to  excellence in                                                               
dentistry and  considers it his duty  to look out for  the dental                                                               
health of the state.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:23:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DYSON  said  he  has   seen  anecdotal  evidence  that  an                                                               
egregious  number of  children in  Alaska are  developing serious                                                               
dental problems as a result of poor hygiene and diet.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. GERACE responded  he would like to see  more efforts directed                                                               
to addressing  the serious  dental problems  that exist  in rural                                                               
communities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  thanked the candidates  for answering  the questions                                                               
of the committee. There being  no further business to come before                                                               
the committee, he adjourned the meeting at 3:32:00 PM.                                                                        

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