Legislature(2025 - 2026)SENATE FINANCE 532

01/28/2026 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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09:03:44 AM Governor's Fy 27 Budget Request Overview: Legislative Finance Division
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                 SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     January 28, 2026                                                                                           
                         9:02 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:02:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman called the Senate Finance Committee                                                                            
meeting to order at 9:02 a.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyman Hoffman, Co-Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Donny Olson, Co-Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Bert Stedman, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Mike Cronk                                                                                                              
Senator James Kaufman                                                                                                           
Senator Jesse Kiehl                                                                                                             
Senator Kelly Merrick                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Cathy    Giessel,   Alexei    Painter,   Director,                                                                    
Legislative Finance Division;                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^GOVERNOR'S FY 27 BUDGET REQUEST OVERVIEW: LEGISLATIVE                                                                        
FINANCE DIVISION                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:03:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ALEXEI  PAINTER,  DIRECTOR,  LEGISLATIVE  FINANCE  DIVISION,                                                                    
(LFD)   discussed  the   presentation,   "Overview  of   the                                                                    
Governor's FY27  Budget" (copy on file).  He addressed slide                                                                    
2, "Outline                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     FY26 Recap and Update  Vetoes, Supplementals                                                                               
     Fall Revenue Forecast                                                                                                      
     FY27 Governor's Budget                                                                                                     
     Long-Term View                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter pointed to slide 3, "FY26 Recap: Adjournment                                                                        
Budget                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     When the  legislature adjourned last year,  there was a                                                                    
     projected budget deficit of $192.8  million in FY25 and                                                                    
     a surplus of $56.6 million  in FY26 based on the Spring                                                                    
     revenue forecast ($68 oil).                                                                                                
          The vote  to fill  the FY25  deficit from  the CBR                                                                    
          failed,  so the  deficit  would  have been  filled                                                                    
          first  with a  draw  of up  to  $100 million  from                                                                    
          AIDEA, then  the remaining amount from  the Higher                                                                    
          Education Investment Fund.                                                                                            
          The  legislature  did  not have  a  source  for  a                                                                    
          potential FY26 deficit.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     The   legislature  accepted   $42.9   million  of   the                                                                    
     Governor's requested  $80.4 million of  UGF increments,                                                                    
     added $44.6  million of increases  not proposed  by the                                                                    
     Governor, and  made $34.0 million of  budget reductions                                                                    
     to the Adjusted Base.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The legislature's  budget funded  the K-12  formula and                                                                    
     most statewide items at their statutory levels.                                                                            
          School  Debt   Reimbursement  was  funded   at  75                                                                    
          percent   and   the  Community   Assistance   Fund                                                                    
          capitalization was $13.3 million,  enough to pay a                                                                    
          $20.0 million distribution to communities.                                                                            
          The  Fire  Suppression  Fund and  Disaster  Relief                                                                    
          Fund were  capitalized at their  five-year average                                                                    
          of expenditures.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:06:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman requested a 10-year average to see the                                                                         
delta between the five-year and ten-year comparison.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter agreed to provide that information.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman remarked that the governor's veto did not                                                                      
use a ten-year average.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter agreed.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter discussed slide 4, "FY26 Recap: Governor's                                                                          
Vetoes and Override                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     FY25 Supplemental vetoes                                                                                                   
     $5.0 million UGF for ASMI                                                                                                  
          $62.2  million reappropriations  to DOT  for match                                                                    
          (coming  from a  mix  of old  projects and  unused                                                                    
          prior year match)                                                                                                     
          AIDEA  deficit   fill  language   (meaning  entire                                                                    
          deficit came from HEIF)                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     FY26 UGF  vetoes totaled $103.6 million  from operating                                                                    
     budget and $14.3 million from capital budget.                                                                              
          Largest  veto   ($45.4  million)  was   from  K-12                                                                    
          foundation formula and was overridden.                                                                                
          Other  vetoes  included  $26.9 million  from  Fire                                                                    
          Suppression  Fund,  $10.3  million  from  Disaster                                                                    
          Relief   Fund,  and   $25.1  million   from  Major                                                                    
          Maintenance Grant Fund.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     After  the  override, the  enacted  FY26  budget had  a                                                                    
     projected $130.4 million surplus.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:09:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter addressed slide 5, "FY26 Recap: Surplus to                                                                          
Deficit                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     The  Governor  and   legislature  expressed  skepticism                                                                    
     about the  $68 oil  price in  the Spring  Forecast, and                                                                    
     both aimed for a lower balancing price.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     The Fall  forecast reduced the projected  oil price for                                                                    
     FY26 to $65.48 and  projected revenue by $181.4 million                                                                    
     (due  also to  increased projected  deductible expenses                                                                    
     and  reduced  production).  This  moves  the  projected                                                                    
     $130.4  million surplus  to a  projected $51.0  million                                                                    
     deficit before supplemental appropriations.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter looked at slide 6, "Vacancy Rates Have Reversed                                                                     
Their Previous Downward Trend                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman requested that LFD come back after the                                                                         
governor's amendments with a full projection on oil to                                                                          
determine the sensitivity on the deficit.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter agreed to appear in a future meeting on the                                                                         
subject.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter continued to discuss the graph on slide 6.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:14:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter displayed slide 7, "FY25 Lapsing Funds                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     In    the   FY25    budget,   lapsing    general   fund                                                                    
     appropriations were directed as follows:                                                                                   
          Working Reserve Fund (none needed in FY25)                                                                            
          Group Health and Life Benefits Fund ($23.1                                                                            
          million utilized in FY25)                                                                                             
          School Major Maintenance Grant Fund (added by                                                                         
          Legislature, $4.9 million used in FY25)                                                                               
          Catastrophe Reserve Account (none needed in FY25)                                                                     
          Central Services Cost Allocation Rate Smoothing                                                                       
          ($5.0 million used in FY25)                                                                                           
          Any remainder would reduce the deficit draw from                                                                      
          the Higher Education Investment Fund                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Entire  amount  of  available lapse  was  utilized  for                                                                    
     these appropriations,  and $1.6 million need  for Group                                                                    
     Health and  Life Benefits  Fund was  unmet and  will be                                                                    
     carried forward to FY26.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:19:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman wanted transparency,  and remarked that the                                                                    
state should  not rely on  the lapse but  rather appropriate                                                                    
the needed funds to deal with  the issue. He wondered if the                                                                    
lapse money should go into the CBR.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter responded in the affirmative.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman  stated  that   the  assertion  must  have                                                                    
significant consideration.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  wondered whether it would  change the cash                                                                    
flow.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter stated  that increasing  the  Alaska Care  rate                                                                    
would show the funds spread out across all agencies.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman remarked that the budget would stay level.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  replied that  it was the  hope that  the budget                                                                    
would remain level.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman queried the impact  of a governor's veto on                                                                    
decreasing the budget.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  replied that  an example could  be seen  in the                                                                    
University budget.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kiehl  remarked that  there  was  some handling  of                                                                    
retirement payments that have similar consequences.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:25:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter pointed to slide  8, "FY24 and FY25 Overspending                                                                    
of Appropriations                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     In   FY24,  Legislative   Audit  identified   that  the                                                                    
     Department   of    Corrections   overspent    its   UGF                                                                    
     appropriations by $8.0 million.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     In  FY25,   DOC  and  the  Department   of  Family  and                                                                    
     Community   Services    both   overspent    their   UGF                                                                    
     appropriations.   Based  on   unaudited  figures,   the                                                                    
     amounts   are   $12.6   million   and   $0.7   million,                                                                    
     respectively.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     These  amounts   will  come   to  the   legislature  as                                                                    
     ratification requests.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl  remarked that it  was not acceptable  for the                                                                    
governor to  appropriate funds  beyond what  the legislature                                                                    
passes in the budget.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter pointed out that  the difference in spending was                                                                    
due  to  a  change  in  reporting by  OMB  to  more  clearly                                                                    
identify current year overspending.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:31:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Painter   highlighted   slide  9,   "FY26   Governor's                                                                    
Supplemental Budget                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The  Governor's  operating  and capital  bills  include                                                                    
     $239.8 million of UGF supplementals, including:                                                                            
          $69.7 million UGF for capital match for DOT to                                                                        
          make up for the vetoed FY25 reappropriations.                                                                         
          $40.0 million UGF for the Disaster Relief Fund.                                                                       
          $129.6 million directly from the CBR to the HEIF                                                                      
         to repay the estimated FY25 deficit draw.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     The  Governor's supplemental  requests  do not  include                                                                    
     $55.0  million for  the Fire  Suppression Fund  that is                                                                    
     needed  to pay  for fire  disasters issued  in 2025.  A                                                                    
     more  refined figure  that includes  spring 2026  costs                                                                    
     will likely be available later.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     The  operating  budget includes  Constitutional  Budget                                                                    
     Reserve   Fund  deficit-filling   language  for   FY26.                                                                    
     Additional supplemental  requests are  due on  the 15th                                                                    
     day of  the legislative session. These  are expected to                                                                    
     include $36.4 million for Medicaid, among other items.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:35:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   noted  the  issue  of   ratification  of                                                                    
previous year's  non-appropriated spent funds. He  noted the                                                                    
waterfall  of expenditures,  resulting in  a borrowing  from                                                                    
the CBR.  He stressed  that without the  three-quarter vote,                                                                    
the money  would already  spent requiring  a cash  flow need                                                                    
that would be drawn from the ERA.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  commented that there was  a statutory procedure                                                                    
for  the governor  to withhold  expenditures,  but that  was                                                                    
found to be unconstitutional. The  result was that there was                                                                    
currently no procedure to replace that statute.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  stressed that the procedure  would need to                                                                    
happen before the end of the fiscal year.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl  stressed that it  was a crime to  spend money                                                                    
without an appropriation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:39:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter   discussed  slide   10,  "Fall   2025  Revenue                                                                    
Forecast                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     DOR's  Fall 2025  Forecast shows  lower  oil prices  in                                                                    
     both FY26  and FY27.  Production is  lower in  FY26 but                                                                    
     higher in FY27.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Lease   expenditures  (which   are   deducted  in   the                                                                    
     production tax calculation)  are also up significantly,                                                                    
     although not all are deductible  due to the lower price                                                                    
     projection.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Petroleum  corporate income  tax  projections are  also                                                                    
     down by $90.0 million in FY26 and $75.0 in FY27.                                                                           
     The overall  result is lower projected  revenue in FY26                                                                    
     and FY27 beyond what the price change alone suggests.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter looked at slide 11, "NPR-A Revenue                                                                                  
Background                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Federal   royalties  from   leases   in  the   National                                                                    
     Petroleum Reserve-Alaska  have historically  been split                                                                    
     50/50  with  the  State,   but  42  U.S.C.  6056a(l)(1)                                                                    
     requires  that  the  State "give  priority  to  use  by                                                                    
     subdivisions  of the  State most  directly or  severely                                                                    
     impacted  by development  of oil  and gas  leased under                                                                    
     this Act." This requirement  was litigated in the 1980s                                                                    
     and the result is the  NPR-A Impact Grant program under                                                                    
     AS 37.05.530.  Appropriations to that program  are made                                                                    
     annually in the capital budget.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     HR1 (also  known as the  One Big Beautiful Bill  Act or                                                                    
     OBBBA) changed  the royalty split  to 70/30  for leases                                                                    
     issued after July 2025, but not until 2034.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Legislative  Legal wrote  an opinion  in November  2025                                                                    
     that  confirmed that  OBBBA did  not amend  the sharing                                                                    
     requirement.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:44:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter addressed slide 12, "NPR-A Revenue  Governor's                                                                      
Budget                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     In the Fall 2025 Revenue  Sources Book, this revenue is                                                                    
     no longer classified as federal  revenue and instead is                                                                    
     split  between the  general fund,  Permanent Fund,  and                                                                    
     the Public School Trust Fund.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     The  Governor's capital  budget  does  not include  the                                                                    
     typical  appropriation   to  the  NPR-A   Impact  Grant                                                                    
     program.  His operating  budget does,  however, include                                                                    
     typical   language   that  appropriates   any   lapsing                                                                    
     appropriations  from the  grant  program  to first  the                                                                    
     Permanent Fund (up to 25  percent of total revenue) and                                                                    
     then the  Public School Trust  Fund (up to  0.5 percent                                                                    
     of   revenue)  and   PCE  Endowment,   consistent  with                                                                    
     statute.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     However,  the Governor's  budget reports  do not  count                                                                    
     the   latter   appropriation    as   a   general   fund                                                                    
     expenditure,   understating   the    deficit   in   the                                                                    
     Governor's fiscal summary by $9.6 million.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Based on  the Legislative Legal opinion,  LFD's reports                                                                    
     and fiscal summary  maintain the federal classification                                                                    
     of  NPR-A funds,  decreasing FY27  UGF revenue  by $9.6                                                                    
     million.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman recalled that there was a deadline for                                                                         
applying for the grants, which was generally ignored by the                                                                     
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter agreed.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:48:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter pointed to slide 13, "Percent of Market Value                                                                       
(POMV) Draw from Permanent Fund                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter addressed slide 14, "FY27 Adjusted Base                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The starting  point for the  next year's budget  is the                                                                    
     Adjusted Base,  which is the  prior year's  budget less                                                                    
     one-time appropriations  plus current  statewide policy                                                                    
     decisions  (such  as  salary  adjustments  and  formula                                                                    
     changes) needed  to maintain services  at a  status quo                                                                    
     level.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Starting  in FY25,  LFD modified  the Adjusted  Base to                                                                    
     include formula  changes. Previously, it  was difficult                                                                    
     to distinguish  policy changes from changes  in formula                                                                    
     amounts.  Now,  formula-driven adjustments  (for  items                                                                    
     like  the K-12  formula,  debt  service, or  retirement                                                                    
     payments)  will  be  reflected in  the  Adjusted  Base,                                                                    
     making policy changes by the Governor easier to see.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     For formula items  funded at a partial  amount (such as                                                                    
     the PFD), the  Adjusted Base would be  the same formula                                                                    
     carried  forward  into the  next  year  (so the  amount                                                                    
     needed  for a  $1,000  payment, which  was the  formula                                                                    
     used  in  FY26,  is  carried   forward  into  the  FY27                                                                    
     adjusted base).                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:52:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter  looked  at  slide   15,  "FY27  Adjusted  Base                                                                    
(cont.): One-Time Items                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Some of these items originated  in FY25 and the amounts                                                                    
    here represent balances carried forward into FY26.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter   discussed  slide  16,  "FY27   Adjusted  Base                                                                    
(cont.): Formula Adjustments                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     K-12  formula  reduced  primarily  due  to  2,064  (2.0                                                                    
     percent)  decrease in  brick-and-mortar students  (only                                                                    
     partially   offset  by   an  861-student   increase  in                                                                    
     correspondence students)  and increased  local property                                                                    
     tax values (offsetting State cost).                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     State   retirement  contributions   increased  due   to                                                                    
     actuarial changes and policy changes by the ARM Board.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter   addressed  slide  17,  "FY27   Adjusted  Base                                                                    
(cont.): Salary and Benefits Adjustments                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Five  unions  are   currently  negotiating  across  the                                                                    
     Executive  Branch  and   University  of  Alaska.  These                                                                    
     contracts will likely be in  future amendments from the                                                                    
     Governor.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:58:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  requested  the percentage  of  the  state                                                                    
salaries and benefits relative to overall state spending.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter agreed to provide that information.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter highlighted slide  18, "Governor's FY27 Budget                                                                      
The trend was pretty flat,  and very similar to the previous                                                                    
year's  budget. The  largest impact  was the  Permanent Fund                                                                    
Dividend (PFD). He  noted that in FY 26 the  deficit was $51                                                                    
million,  and  there  were   $240  million  in  supplemental                                                                    
requests.  He noted  the  resulting  current deficit,  which                                                                    
would need to be covered  from some source. He remarked that                                                                    
there  was   a  projected  deficit  of   approximately  $1.5                                                                    
million.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman asked  about  the estimate  that might  be                                                                    
presented the following week.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  replied that the  largest items  were Medicaid,                                                                    
fire  suppression,  SNAP  benefits, and  the  Department  of                                                                    
Corrections (DOC)  community residential centers.  He stated                                                                    
that there were other items that he was not aware.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  remarked that  it was  one of  the largest                                                                    
supplemental budget he has seen.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  stressed that  the legislature  would work                                                                    
on complying with the governor's request.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:03:57 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter discussed  slide  19,  "Governor's FY27  Budget                                                                    
(Cont.)   He stated that the  graph was often referred to as                                                                    
the "swoop graph."  He remarked that most  items were fairly                                                                    
close,  except   for  the  PFD.   The  graph   compared  the                                                                    
priorities   of  the   legislature  versus   the  governor's                                                                    
priorities. He noted that the  Department of Agriculture was                                                                    
included  in the  graph, because  it was  in the  governor's                                                                    
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman thanked the Office  of Management (OMB) for                                                                    
including the  PFD. He wondered  whether there  was guidance                                                                    
on the capital budget versus the operating budget.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  replied that the constitutional  spending limit                                                                    
reserves  one-third of  the spending  limit for  the capital                                                                    
budget.  He noted  that approximately  half  of the  current                                                                    
limit  was spent  currently. He  stated  that the  operating                                                                    
budget  was not  currently in  danger of  reaching the  two-                                                                    
thirds of the limit.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  remarked on the deferred  maintenance, and                                                                    
then  hoped   that  there  would  be   some  capital  budget                                                                    
investments  on building  infrastructure.  He stressed  that                                                                    
payroll must be met before any other proposals.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:07:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman felt that the  governor should also support                                                                    
the  capital  budget,  and  not   veto  the  capital  budget                                                                    
requests.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter pointed  to slide  20, "Governor's  FY27 Budget                                                                    
(Cont.)   He stated that the  slide outlined where the money                                                                    
comes from and  where it goes. He remarked  that the largest                                                                    
source of the  revenue was the POMV draw  from the Permanent                                                                    
Fund.  He stated  that  the graphic  might  help the  public                                                                    
understand   the  revenue.   He  stated   that  the   agency                                                                    
operations used the most money.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter displayed  slide  21,  "Governor's FY27  Budget                                                                    
(Cont.)                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Agency operations are $11.3 million (0.2 percent)                                                                          
     above adjusted base.                                                                                                       
          DOH:  Medicaid reduced  by  $10.0  million due  to                                                                    
          early termination  of FY26-27  temporary increment                                                                    
          for behavioral health rates.                                                                                          
          DOT: Added  $6.5 million  UGF to  replace one-time                                                                    
          fund sources used in the FY26 budget.                                                                                 
          Added  $5.2  million  UGF to  replace  Restorative                                                                    
          Justice  Funds that  are  unavailable  due to  the                                                                    
          lower FY26 PFD.                                                                                                       
          Added  $1.9 million  UGF, $7.9  million all  funds                                                                    
          for IT Class Study.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter addressed  slide  22,  "Governor's FY27  Budget                                                                    
(Cont.)                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Statewide items are $14.5 million (3.1 percent) below                                                                      
     Adjusted Base.                                                                                                             
          Does   not  fully   fund  ARM   Board  recommended                                                                    
          contribution  to PERS  and TRS.  Governor's amount                                                                    
          is $37.7 million below ARM Board.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:12:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman wondered  how short  funding the  unfunded                                                                    
liability would be split between the state and communities.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter replied  that the  ARM  Board wanted  to use  a                                                                    
payment  plan  for  the post-2014  new  liabilities  due  to                                                                    
actuarial  underperformance  that  would have  paid  it  off                                                                    
within fifteen years from when they began.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  remarked that approximately 13  percent of                                                                    
the aggregate payroll went toward the unfunded liability.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:17:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter replied that the ARM Board was attempting to                                                                        
solve the issue, and stated that there was great concern                                                                        
about not paying off the liability in a timely manner.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter continued to discuss slide 22:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          Fully  funds school  debt  reimbursement and  REAA                                                                    
          fund.                                                                                                                 
          $14.0  million  from  PCE  Fund   and  no  UGF  to                                                                    
          Community  Assistance Fund.  This would  result in                                                                    
          an $18.0  million payment to communities  in FY28,                                                                    
          less than the amount of the base payments.                                                                            
          $47.5  million  UGF  for  Fire  Suppression  Fund,                                                                    
          matching post-veto, pre-supplemental FY26 total.                                                                      
          $24.0 million  UGF to Disaster Relief  Fund, $11.0                                                                    
          million  above  post-veto,  pre-supplemental  FY26                                                                    
          total.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter highlighted slide 23, "Governor's FY27 Budget                                                                       
(Cont.)                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Capital Budget totals $156.6 million UGF, $2.1 billion                                                                     
     all funds.                                                                                                                 
          $127.7  million GF/Match  (81.1  percent of  total                                                                    
          UGF)                                                                                                                  
          $22.9  million  AHFC  dividends to  AHFC  projects                                                                    
          (compared to $28.7 million board recommendations)                                                                     
          $1.9  million GF/Mental  Health (compared  to $6.5                                                                    
          million MH Trust recommendation)                                                                                      
          $4.1  UGF for  two projects  in DFG  ($3.3 million                                                                    
          Gulf  of  Alaska   Chinook  Salmon,  $0.8  million                                                                    
          Alaska Marine Salmon Program)                                                                                         
          No    funding   for    school   construction/major                                                                    
          maintenance                                                                                                           
          $26.3 million from Alaska  Capital Income Fund for                                                                    
          deferred maintenance                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:23:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter looked at slide 24, "Governor's FY27 Budget                                                                         
(Cont.)                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Also notable is what is not yet in the budget:                                                                             
          Medicaid   the Governor's  budget does not contain                                                                    
          an   increase  to   Medicaid   funding,  but   the                                                                    
          Department  of Health  stated that  the projection                                                                    
          will   be  trued   up  in   a  future   amendment.                                                                    
          Preliminary  projections indicate  a  need for  an                                                                    
          additional $47.4 million UGF.                                                                                         
               This does not factor in any increases                                                                            
               related to four rate rebalancing studies                                                                         
               commissioned by DOH.                                                                                             
          Ongoing  Employee Bargaining  Negotiations    five                                                                    
          unions  are  currently  negotiating  new  cost  of                                                                    
          living increases to begin in FY27.                                                                                    
          SNAP  Administrative  Cost  Match     Starting  in                                                                    
          FFY27,   the   State's   match  share   for   SNAP                                                                    
          administrative   costs  will   increase  from   25                                                                    
          percent to  50 percent,  increasing State  cost by                                                                    
          an estimated $10.7 million.  This was not included                                                                    
          in the Governor's budget.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     From  FY21-26, the  Governor's  amended  budget was  on                                                                    
     average  $103.3 million  UGF higher  than his  December                                                                    
     release.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:27:59 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman asked about the SNAP administrative cost                                                                       
match. He specifically asked about the implications of not                                                                      
increasing the match from 25 to 50 percent.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter replied that there would not be enough general                                                                      
funds to pay for those employees.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman surmised that the impact of cutting staff                                                                      
would impact the administration of SNAP funds.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter agreed.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter discussed slide 25, "Additional Potential Items                                                                     
for FY26-28                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Federal  Disparity  Test:   Governor's  budget  assumes                                                                    
     Alaska   passes  the   federal  K-12   disparity  test,                                                                    
     allowing the  State to deduct  federal impact  aid from                                                                    
     its share  of the  K-12 formula.  The State  failed the                                                                    
     FY26  test and  is currently  appealing the  ruling. If                                                                    
     the State fails  its appeal, formula costs  would go up                                                                    
     by  an  estimated  $78.9  million  in  FY26  and  $70.8                                                                    
     million in FY27.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     AMHS:  Federal  Transit   Administration  has  not  yet                                                                    
     issued   grant  application   for  FFY26   Rural  Ferry                                                                    
     program. CY26  AMHS budget relies  on $77.9  million of                                                                    
     federal funds  (after factoring in $5.0  million of UGF                                                                    
     backstop)  and  FY27-28  Governor's request  relies  on                                                                    
     $83.3 million.  If these funds  are not  granted, those                                                                    
     will be budget holes in both FY26 and FY27.                                                                                
          FY26 capital budget appropriated previously                                                                           
          awarded funding so it is unaffected.                                                                                  
          Even if the funds are granted eventually for FY26                                                                     
          and FY27, they expire after that and would need                                                                       
          to be replaced in FY28.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     SNAP Match:  In addition  to the  administrative match,                                                                    
     H.R.  1  adds  a  match requirement  for  SNAP  funding                                                                    
     itself. The timing and amount  depend on Alaska's error                                                                    
     rate  and  would  begin  in   FFY28  unless  the  State                                                                    
     receives a  waiver to delay  the impact.  DOH estimates                                                                    
     an impact of $15.4 to $46.2 million.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:33:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter addressed  slide 26,  "UGF Budget  and Revenue,                                                                    
FY14-26   He  stated that the  graph was the  current fiscal                                                                    
picture because  oil prices  began to  decline in  20214. He                                                                    
stated that  the big  change occurred  in 2019,  because the                                                                    
legislature  passed   the  POMV,  which   increased  revenue                                                                    
significantly.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter highlighted  slide 27,  "CBR and  SBR Balances,                                                                    
FY14-26    He  noted  the   significant  reductions  in  the                                                                    
savings balances before the POMV draws.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:38:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter  pointed to slide 28,  "Earnings Reserve Account                                                                    
(ERA) Sufficiency                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     APFC's  Statutory Net  Income projection  for FY27+  is                                                                    
     6.20  percent, compared  to inflation  of 2.50  percent                                                                    
     and  a  5.00  percent  POMV   draw.  This  leads  to  a                                                                    
     projected decline in the balance of the ERA balance.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     LFD's  probabilistic  modeling   shows  an  33  percent                                                                    
     chance of  having an insufficient  ERA balance  to make                                                                    
     the  full POMV  draw over  FY27    FY36, assuming  full                                                                    
     inflation  proofing   and  statutory  POMV   draws.  If                                                                    
     inflation-proofing  is suspended  when the  ERA balance                                                                    
     drops below the following  year's POMV draw, that drops                                                                    
     to 24 percent.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     This outlook  is significantly better  than a  year ago                                                                    
     when  the  chances  were 46  percent  and  33  percent,                                                                    
     respectively.  This improvement  is  due to  relatively                                                                    
     strong  realized   earnings  in  FY25   ($5.9  billion,                                                                    
     compared to a projected $4.6 billion).                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter displayed slide 29, "Long-Term Revenue                                                                              
Outlook                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     The  Department  of  Revenue's Fall  Forecast  projects                                                                    
     that oil prices will rise  from $62.00 in FY27 to $73.0                                                                    
     in FY35 (slightly slower than inflation)                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Oil  production is  projected  to  increase from  517.8                                                                    
     mbbl/day in FY27 to 659.9 mbbl/day in FY35.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     The Permanent  Fund is projected  to earn  7.30 percent                                                                    
     per  year. APFC's  POMV projections  do  not match  the                                                                    
     Revenue Sources Book (they are  slightly higher for all                                                                    
     years).  LFD's modeling  is based  on APFC's  forecast,                                                                    
     with an adjustment for NPR-A royalties.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:42:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman wondered whether a per barrel production                                                                       
forecast was expected to go out.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter replied in the affirmative.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman he felt that there should be an analysis                                                                       
the various components on that issue.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl wondered whether the production increase was                                                                      
expected to be plus 160,000 barrels per day.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter replied in the affirmative.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl remarked that it was $3.5 billion of                                                                              
additional gross value.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter highlighted slide 30, "Long-Term Fiscal                                                                             
Outlook                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Since  revenue is  projected to  increase roughly  with                                                                    
     inflation,  LFD modeling  shows that  the current  $1.5                                                                    
     billion structural deficit  will persist throughout the                                                                    
     modeling window without policy changes.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     This  outlook  arguably  understates the  true  ongoing                                                                    
     deficit   because  the   current   capital  budget   is                                                                    
     unsustainably  small   for  deferred   maintenance  and                                                                    
     renewal of State facilities.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     The Governor's  10-Year Plan does not  make significant                                                                    
     policy changes  and therefore continues  the structural                                                                    
     deficit. The Governor's  proposed revenue measures were                                                                    
     introduced   too  late   to   be   analyzed  for   this                                                                    
     presentation.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:45:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Painter concluded his presentation.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kaufman remarked that  personal finance often showed                                                                    
probabilistic  modeling. He  wondered  whether  there was  a                                                                    
product   like  that   which  would   take  in   the  likely                                                                    
assumptions  of revenue  and projected  assumptions of  cost                                                                    
and projects it out in  a graphic presentation of likelihood                                                                    
for success.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Painter stated  that there  was  a probabilistic  model                                                                    
that incorporated  volatility of investment revenue  and oil                                                                    
production and price. He agreed to present on that mode.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman stated  that the next meeting  would be the                                                                    
upcoming Monday.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
10:47:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 10:47 a.m.                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
012926 LFD FY27 Overview SFIN.pdf SFIN 1/28/2026 9:00:00 AM