Legislature(2025 - 2026)SENATE FINANCE 532

01/26/2026 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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09:02:55 AM Governor's Fy 27 Budget Request: Office of Management and Budget
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                 SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     January 26, 2026                                                                                           
                         8:59 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:59:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman   called  the  Senate   Finance  Committee                                                                    
meeting to order at 8:59 a.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyman Hoffman, Co-Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Donny Olson, Co-Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Bert Stedman, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Mike Cronk                                                                                                              
Senator James Kaufman                                                                                                           
Senator Jesse Kiehl                                                                                                             
Senator Kelly Merrick                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Lacey Sanders,  Director, Office  of Management  and Budget;                                                                    
Senator Cathy Giessel.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^GOVERNOR'S FY  27 BUDGET REQUEST: OFFICE  of MANAGEMENT and                                                                  
BUDGET                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:02:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LACEY SANDERS,  DIRECTOR, OFFICE  OF MANAGEMENT  AND BUDGET,                                                                    
(OMB) discussed  the presentation, "State of  Alaska, Office                                                                    
of Management and Budget, Overview  of the FY2027 Governor's                                                                    
Budget, Senate  Finance Committee,  January 26,  2026" (copy                                                                    
on file). She pointed to slide 2, "FY 2026 Budget."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:04:39 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:05:29 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman recalled that  the Spring Forecast was used                                                                    
to determine the revenue based on the forecasted price.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders  replied that the  process that  was established                                                                    
was based on previous forecasts.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sanders  pointed  to  slide  3,  "FY2027  Budget    She                                                                    
remarked that  the Fall 2025 update  was used as a  frame of                                                                    
reference  for   the  current  budget.  She   outlined  some                                                                    
adjustments in the revenue, leaving  a budget deficit of $54                                                                    
million  before  the  supplemental   budget  that  had  been                                                                    
introduced to the legislature.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:11:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sanders  highlighted  slide  4,  "FY2027  Short  Fiscal                                                                    
Summary (UGF)    She remarked that  the summary was  a frame                                                                    
of  reference based  on a  more  comprehensive outlook.  She                                                                    
shared that the previous  year's total revenue was projected                                                                    
at $5.9 billion, and the budget  for FY 27 was $6.2 billion.                                                                    
She noted the  slight uptick of the draw  from the Permanent                                                                    
Fund  Earnings  Reserve  Account  percent  of  market  value                                                                    
(POMV)  of  $200  million.  She  continued  to  outline  the                                                                    
details of the slide.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl  noted that there  was no placeholder  for the                                                                    
supplemental budget in the upcoming year.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sanders  replied  that there  was  no  placeholder  for                                                                    
supplementals in the FY 26 budget request.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:17:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders  replied that the  state continued to rely  on a                                                                    
volatile  revenue  source,  and  remarked  that  there  were                                                                    
continued conversations  about the appropriate  budget level                                                                    
of a variety of items. She  stated that there needed to be a                                                                    
conversation about  what the state continued  to fund within                                                                    
the  state.  She stressed  that  the  governor was  open  to                                                                    
talking about  revenue, a fiscal  plan, and  looking forward                                                                    
in the state's fiscal situation.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  understood  that there  was  a  statutory                                                                    
permanent fund dividend (PFD),  and suggested a modification                                                                    
of that amount.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:21:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sanders  agreed  to  have  the  conversation  with  the                                                                    
governor on that issue.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders addressed slide  5, "Operating Budget Comparison                                                                    
FY2026 to FY2027  (UGF)." She looked at  slide 6, "Operating                                                                    
Budget Significant Highlights                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Administration                                                                                               
     •  Implement   the  statewide   Information  Technology                                                                    
     classification study                                                                                                       
     • Transition  Shared Services  of Alaska  (SSoA) Travel                                                                    
     and  Accounts  Payable  back   to  all  departments  to                                                                    
     address inefficiencies                                                                                                     
     •  Transition  Payroll   Services  back  to  respective                                                                    
     departments  to improve  accuracy and  address specific                                                                    
     payroll needs of agency employees                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Agriculture                                                                                                  
     •  Implement  Executive   Order  137  establishing  the                                                                    
     Department of Agriculture                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Department   of  Commerce,   Community,  and   Economic                                                                    
     Development                                                                                                                
     •  $2,238.8  UGF  for the  Alaska  Gasline  Development                                                                    
     Corporation  for  operational funding  associated  with                                                                    
     Alaska Liquefied Natural Gas (AK LNG) development                                                                          
     •  $44,279.0  DGF  (Power Cost  Equalization  Endowment                                                                    
     Fund)  for the  Alaska  Energy  Authority's Power  Cost                                                                    
     Equalization Program                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:26:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kiehl  wondered  why  there was  a  change  in  the                                                                    
payroll.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sanders replied  that there  were still  functions that                                                                    
would remain  in the  Division of  Finance, but  stated that                                                                    
the agencies would  like to see payroll in  house. She spoke                                                                    
to the  issue specifically  related to travel,  and stressed                                                                    
that it was  important to the governor that  people are paid                                                                    
and reimbursed in a timely and accurate manner.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl  was anticipating the details  of the proposed                                                                    
change to determine the best way to move forward.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kaufman wondered  whether there  were any  major IT                                                                    
processes that might streamline payroll.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sanders replied  that the  payroll  was currently  gone                                                                    
through IRIS, and  there would be changes  in payroll. Those                                                                    
changes were currently underway, with phased approaches.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kaufman wanted to examine  the progress and resource                                                                    
that might be unaware to the committee.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:31:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Cronk  wondered  whether  there was  money  in  the                                                                    
budget for  a new  locality pay study,  because it  was "way                                                                    
overdue."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders  replied that  there was  nothing in  the budget                                                                    
for that study.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman commented on the  use of $44 million out of                                                                    
the  Power Cost  Equalization  (PCE) for  the Alaska  Energy                                                                    
Authority.  He felt  that the  PCE concept  was not  aligned                                                                    
with that  budget request. He  felt that the purpose  of the                                                                    
fund should be  to equalize the rates,  rather than spending                                                                    
money on programs to administer the funds.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Sanders  pointed   to  slide   7,  "Operating   Budget                                                                    
Significant Highlights (con't)                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Education and Early Development                                                                              
     •  Foundation  Program  and Pupil  Transportation  full                                                                    
     statutory formula funding for school districts                                                                             
     • $3,293.8  DGF (Higher Education Investment  Fund) for                                                                    
     Alaska  Performance Scholarship  projected increase  in                                                                    
     awards                                                                                                                     
     • $1,646.9  DGF (Higher Education Investment  Fund) for                                                                    
    Alaska Education Grants projects increase in awards                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Health                                                                                                       
     • Senior Benefit Payment Program  is fully funded based                                                                    
     on the statutory formula                                                                                                   
     • $2,700.0 Federal for Public  Health to receive grants                                                                    
     to  Help  Me  Grow,   substance  misuse  and  addiction                                                                    
     prevention,  and  equipment  for  the  Medical  related                                                                    
     Examiner's Office                                                                                                          
     • $585.0  Federal for Behavioral Health  to support the                                                                    
     Crisis Contact Center                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Labor and Workforce Development                                                                              
     •  $1,405.0 UGF  for Worker's  Compensation    one-time                                                                    
     support   for  the   loss   of   Workers'  Safety   and                                                                    
     Compensation  Administration   Account  receipts  being                                                                    
     swept and  a decline  in revenue as  Alaskan businesses                                                                    
     are becoming safer                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:36:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  wondered  whether  the  proposal  was  an                                                                    
accounting reversal to put the state into compliance.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders replied  "kind of", and stated  that the account                                                                    
was  subject to  the CBR  sweep. She  relayed that  there ha                                                                    
been   conversations  with   Legislative  Audit   about  the                                                                    
account, and how the fund was established in statute.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  understood that  it  was  subject to  the                                                                    
sweep, but  wondered whether all  the funds were  subject to                                                                    
the  sweep.   He  remarked  that   there  was  a   need  for                                                                    
approximately  8000 workers  for the  proposed gas  line. He                                                                    
stated that  most of  those oil  patch skilled  workers were                                                                    
already  employed. He  felt that  there would  be a  massive                                                                    
influx  of  out  of  state  workers  for  that  project.  He                                                                    
stressed that  there should  be a  focus on  younger workers                                                                    
going into the industry.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Sanders   replied   that   the   governor   introduced                                                                    
legislation on the unemployment  trust fund, and designating                                                                    
a portion of that revenue toward training in the state.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:41:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Sanders  pointed   to  slide   8,  "Operating   Budget                                                                    
Significant Highlights (con't)":                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Military and Veterans Affairs                                                                                
     •  Deposits into  the Disaster  Relief Fund  to provide                                                                    
     immediate response to disasters                                                                                            
          .notdef FY2026 $40,000.0 UGF (Supplemental)                                                                         
          .notdef FY2027 $33,000.0 total ($24,000.0 UGF; $9,000.0                                                             
          Federal)                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Natural Resources                                                                                            
     • $3,300.0 total ($1,300.0 UGF; $2,000.0 Federal) to                                                                       
     maintain the National Historic Preservation Fund                                                                           
     Grant (moved from Capital to Operating)                                                                                    
     • $5,825.0 Federal to maintain the Critical Minerals                                                                       
     Mapping  Earth MRI Program (moved from Capital to                                                                          
     Operating)                                                                                                                 
     • Deposits into the Fire Suppression Fund to provide                                                                       
     immediate response to fires                                                                                                
          .notdef FY2026 $55,000.0 UGF (Fire Declarations)                                                                    
          .notdef FY2027 $73,482.7 total ($47,482.7 UGF; $5,500.0                                                             
          Other; $20,500.0 Federal)                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman asked for an  explanation of the difference                                                                    
between the fire suppression and declaration proposals.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sanders  replied  that  there  was  an  effort  to  not                                                                    
duplicated  transmitted counting  of  fire declarations,  so                                                                    
there was not an official transaction.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  felt that the proper  methodology would be                                                                    
a  supplemental,  and  not using  the  ratification  in  the                                                                    
current year.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders completed slide 8:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Public Safety                                                                                                
     • $1,303.0 UGF to maintain Body-worn and In-Car Camera                                                                     
     Operations and Equipment                                                                                                   
     • $550.0 DGF (GF/Program Receipts) to expand Training                                                                      
     and Certification Support for Law Enforcement                                                                              
     and Village Police Officers                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:47:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman remarked  that  a  three-quarter vote  was                                                                    
required  to fund  the  supplemental  request, and  wondered                                                                    
what would happen if that vote did not occur.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders replied that a  three-quarter vote was required,                                                                    
and there would be a determination of next steps.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  felt that the discussion  about next steps                                                                    
was essential before the vote.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Sanders  replied   that   cash   flow  purposed   were                                                                    
approximately $500  million to  $1 billion  in the  CBR, and                                                                    
agreed that there should be  a conversation about what would                                                                    
happen if the CBR were not accessible.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kaufman remarked  that there  was incurred  cost in                                                                    
the proposed reduction of crime in Anchorage.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders replied that there  was no specific line item to                                                                    
address  the   issue.  She  agreed   to  discuss   with  the                                                                    
departments regarding a plan to reduce the crime.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kaufman agreed that that should occur.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:50:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Sanders  pointed   to  slide   9,  "Operating   Budget                                                                    
Significant Highlights (con't)                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
    Department of Transportation and Public Facilities                                                                          
     • $5,246.9  UGF to  restore funding to  levels proposed                                                                    
     in FY2026  prior to legislative  reductions; reductions                                                                    
     were based  on unrealizable  surpluses and  savings for                                                                    
     Highways and Aviation Maintenance                                                                                          
     • $1,253.9  UGF to  restore funding levels  following a                                                                    
     one-time  use  of  Alaska Housing  Capital  Corporation                                                                    
     funds by the legislature                                                                                                   
     •  $1,768.9   DGF  (Motor   Fuel  Tax)   for  Statewide                                                                    
     Guardrail and Roadside Hardware Repair                                                                                     
     •  $420.0 DGF  (Motor Fuel  Tax) for  Statewide Wayside                                                                    
     Maintenance                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Statewide Items                                                                                                            
     •  $129,598.9 UGF  for recapitalization  of the  Alaska                                                                    
     Higher Education Investment Fund from the                                                                                  
     Constitutional    Budget     Reserve    Fund    (FY2026                                                                    
     Supplemental)                                                                                                              
     •  $2.3  billion  UGF  to   provide  a  full  statutory                                                                    
     Permanent  Fund Dividend  of  approximately $3,650  per                                                                    
     eligible individual                                                                                                        
     •  $1.4  billion  UGF   for  Permanent  Fund  Inflation                                                                    
     Proofing from the Earnings Reserve Account to the                                                                          
     Permanent Fund Principal                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman wondered  whether any supplemental requests                                                                    
were from the legislature.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders asked for a restatement.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman pointed out  that the supplemental requests                                                                    
were not requests from the  legislature, but rather from the                                                                    
administration to  balance the  budget. He stressed  that it                                                                    
was additional  spending to balance  the books,  and pointed                                                                    
out that the CBR vote was a requirement.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders agreed.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:54:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sanders highlighted  slide 10,  "FY2027 Capital  Budget                                                                    
Breakdown (UGF)    She pointed to slide  11, "Capital Budget                                                                    
Significant Highlights                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Department   of  Commerce,   Community,  and   Economic                                                                    
     Development                                                                                                                
     •  $15,300.0 Ocean  Ranger  Receipts  to Alaska  Energy                                                                    
     Authority for Cruise Ship Terminal Port                                                                                    
     Electrification                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Environmental Conservation                                                                                   
     •  $272,500.0  total   ($18,000.0  UGF;  $500.0  Other;                                                                    
     $254,000.0  Federal Receipts)  for  Village Safe  Water                                                                    
     and Wastewater Infrastructure Projects                                                                                     
     • $50,944.6  total ($37,859.5 Other;  $13,085.1 Federal                                                                    
     Receipts) for Clean Water and Drinking Water                                                                               
     Grant Funding  including the  additional Infrastructure                                                                    
     Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA) Funding and the                                                                             
     Water  Infrastructure Improvement  for  the Nation  Act                                                                    
     (WIIN)                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Fish and Game                                                                                                
     •  $3,300.0  UGF  for Gulf  of  Alaska  Chinook  Salmon                                                                    
     Program                                                                                                                    
     •  $825.0  UGF for  continued  funding  for the  Alaska                                                                    
     Marine Salmon Program                                                                                                      
     • $6,800.0 Federal Receipts  for Pacific Coastal Salmon                                                                    
     Recovery Fund activities                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders looked at slide  12, "Capital Budget Significant                                                                    
Highlights (con't)                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Health                                                                                                       
     •   $1,150.0  UGF   for  Mental   Health  Trust:   Home                                                                    
     Modification and Upgrades to Retain Housing                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Military and Veterans' Affairs                                                                               
     • $5,000.0  Federal Receipts for Public  Protection and                                                                    
     Infrastructure Support                                                                                                     
     •  $26,765.9   Federal  Receipts  for   State  Homeland                                                                    
     Security Grant Programs                                                                                                    
     • $25,000.0 Federal  Receipts for Deferred Maintenance,                                                                    
     Replacement, and Renewal                                                                                                   
     •  $1,750.0 Federal  Receipts  for  Air National  Guard                                                                    
     Modernization and Sustainment                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Natural Resources                                                                                            
     • $1,850.0  DGF (Timber Receipts) for  Forest Inventory                                                                    
     Initiative  Susitna and Tanana Valleys                                                                                     
     •  $4,800.0  total   ($1,900.0  UGF;  $2,900.0  Federal                                                                    
     Receipts) for Land and Water Conservation Fund Grant                                                                       
     Program                                                                                                                    
     • $12,000.0  Federal Receipts for  Cooperative Forestry                                                                    
     and Fire Programs                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman wondered whether there were any open items                                                                     
related to the Tongass National Forest that needed                                                                              
attention.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders agreed to follow up with the Department of                                                                          
Natural Resources (DNR).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders pointed to slide 13, "Capital Budget                                                                                
Significant Highlights (con't)                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Revenue                                                                                                      
     •  $92,935.0  total  ($22,900.0  UGF  (AHFC  Dividend);                                                                    
     $6,785.0  Other Receipts;  $63,250.0 Federal  Receipts)                                                                    
     for Alaska  Housing Finance Corporation  Annual Housing                                                                    
     Programs                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
    Department of Transportation and Public Facilities                                                                          
     •   $70,154.1    UGF   State   Match    for   Statewide                                                                    
     Transportation Improvement Plan (FY2026 Supplemental)                                                                      
     •  $130,859.5  total  ($107,760.0  UGF;  $2,000.0  DGF;                                                                    
     $21,099.5 Federal Receipts) for Federal Program                                                                            
     Match                                                                                                                      
     •  $26,312.8  DGF  (Alaska  Capital  Income  Fund)  for                                                                    
     Statewide Deferred Maintenance, Renovation, and                                                                            
     Repair                                                                                                                     
     •  $27,500.0  DGF  (Marine Highway  Funds)  for  Alaska                                                                    
     Marine Highway System Vessel Overhaul, Annual                                                                              
     Certification and Shoreside Facilities Rehabilitation                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:00:12 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman remarked  that many  legislators had  been                                                                    
contacted  regarding  the funding  that  was  vetoed by  the                                                                    
governor for  the statewide transportation. He  felt that it                                                                    
would be  prudent to take  care of the  supplemental request                                                                    
as  early  as   possible  to  ease  the   concerns  of  many                                                                    
contractors.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders replied that she  was aware of the concerns. She                                                                    
had  conversations  with   Commissioner  Anderson,  but  the                                                                    
funding was not  needed in the current day.  She shared that                                                                    
it was  the prerogative  of the legislature  to pass  a bill                                                                    
early,  but hoped  that the  funding would  be available  to                                                                    
Department of Transportation  and Public Facilities (DOT/PF)                                                                    
after the end of session.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  recalled that  DOT/PF  did  not need  the                                                                    
money until  the end of  the budget cycle. He  also recalled                                                                    
that  a few  years  prior the  legislature had  appropriated                                                                    
money to  the Alaska  Housing Finance Corporation  (AHFC) to                                                                    
move some  uneconomical subdivisions  forward. He  felt that                                                                    
the programs  should be evaluated  to perhaps open  land for                                                                    
subdivisions in the state.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:04:30 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sanders  addressed  slide 14,  "Full-Time  Positions                                                                       
Budgeted  versus  Filled    She   remarked  that  the  slide                                                                    
represented a brief snapshot of  the filled positions in the                                                                    
state. She noted that in December 2024 there were                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman //                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman //                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders replied that the  ARM Board went through various                                                                    
scenarios to determine the //                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:10:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman recalled that //                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl //                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman //                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:14:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders looked at slide 15, "Vacancy Rates                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kaufman wondered //                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders recalled that /                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:18:45 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl asked                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl //                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders replied that she saw it continuing into the                                                                         
future.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:21:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders discussed slide 16, "Administrative Orders                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Administrative Order 359  Budget Efficiency                                                                                
     •   Establishes   a   Government   Efficiency   Review,                                                                    
     requiring the  Office of Management and  Budget to lead                                                                    
     an annual review of all executive branch agencies                                                                          
     •  The review  will identify  cost savings,  streamline                                                                    
     operations,  modernize  processes,   and  ensure  every                                                                    
     public dollar is spent wisely                                                                                              
     • Initial  areas of focus  include grants  to non-state                                                                    
     entities and accounts payable                                                                                              
     • Agencies will also be  required to use technology and                                                                    
     artificial  intelligence  to improve  transparency  and                                                                    
     accountability in how public money is spent                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Administrative Order 360  Regulatory Reform                                                                                
     •   Launches   a    comprehensive   Regulatory   Reform                                                                    
     Initiative,  replacing  previous regulatory  directives                                                                    
     with a  new framework to reduce  unnecessary burdens on                                                                    
     Alaskans and businesses                                                                                                    
     •  Requires State  agencies  to  review and  streamline                                                                    
     existing    regulations,   guidance    documents,   and                                                                    
     materials incorporated by reference                                                                                        
     • Agencies must reduce regulatory requirements by 15                                                                       
     percent by the end of 2026 and 25 percent by the end                                                                       
     of 2027                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:25:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  remarked that the issues  within the slide                                                                    
were ongoing,  and many  past OMB  directors had  dealt with                                                                    
the issues.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl  queried a quantification of  resources on the                                                                    
last bullet.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders replied that each  agency had identified a point                                                                    
of contact, and there were  no additional funds required for                                                                    
the proposal.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl  wondered what  additional resources  had been                                                                    
diverted to cover the issue.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders stated  that she would reclassify  the work, and                                                                    
not divert resources.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kiehl   wondered  how  it  would   be  charged  per                                                                    
department.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sanders replied  that it  would be  on a  case by  case                                                                    
basis depending on the department.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:29:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl  recalled a conversation related  to a similar                                                                    
issue,  and  wondered  how  those  related  to  the  current                                                                    
proposal.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders  replied that she  was not part of  the process,                                                                    
but agreed to follow up on the question.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Kiehl  wondered  whether there  would  be  proposed                                                                    
bills brough to the legislature as a result of the effort.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders replied that it was a possibility.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:31:38 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kaufman  wondered whether  there was a  framework to                                                                    
ensure  the  process  and results,  and  specifically  asked                                                                    
whether there were targets for the projects.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Sanders replied  in the  affirmative,  and stated  that                                                                    
there were plans from each  agency that would be provided to                                                                    
the public.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kaufman  recalled an example related  to legislation                                                                    
that  allowed the  administration  to  propose reports  that                                                                    
were required  in an non-useful  format. HE felt  that there                                                                    
was an opportunity to reduce unnecessary work.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders agreed.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:34:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman wanted to know  how much money was spent on                                                                    
fighting the case.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  agreed, and wanted more  information about                                                                    
the issues within Mt. Edgcumbe.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman agreed.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman remarked that  there were roughly about 430                                                                    
students, but  there was currently remarkably  high turnover                                                                    
currently.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:39:17 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders agreed to follow up on the issue.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Cronk recalled  that there was a study  in 2008, and                                                                    
expressed  concern from  his rural  district.  He felt  that                                                                    
there was an  issue in job retention. He felt  that 18 years                                                                    
from the last study was efficient  due to the changes in the                                                                    
economy.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders replied that it was not in the budget.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:41:15 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   remarked  that  the   legislature  could                                                                    
appropriate the funds, but agreed  that money could be spent                                                                    
in better areas.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders agreed to have the conversations during the                                                                         
budget process.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kiehl stressed that the  legislature got the results                                                                    
on the  statewide salary  study that  showed that  the state                                                                    
was   far  behind   the  average   without  the   geographic                                                                    
differential.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman agreed.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Sanders looked at slide 19, "Appendix: 10-Year Fiscal                                                                       
Outlook."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
10:47:47 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 10:47 a.m.                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
01.26.26 OMB Senate Finance FY2027 Budget Overview final.pdf SFIN 1/26/2026 9:00:00 AM